Mechwarrior 2 was the most fun but Mechwarrior 3 captured the feel of the Mechwarrior/battletech universe and made you feel like you were living the experience.
@@ratatosk001 Mercs was great, very different. MW2 was very solemn, Mongolian bells and drums, fitting for the grim Clanner duty and outlook on life Suddenly MW2:Mercs goes this heavy metal route, because WAR IS GREAT, LET’S MAKE MONEY! It was perfect for the Mercenary attitude, but I still like the MW2/GBL music better .
Which explains why the IS is 600 years behind the clans. I can see planets like Port Arthur and Tranquil going from developed, prosperous worlds to bombed out slums because the new Star League destroyed anything of use or of value, which means the economy and infrastructure were totally wrecked.
@@dalesheen1816 Their understanding of total war was as something to be avoided. That is the whole point the Clan honor system and why the IS was so far behind the Clans. The failing of the great houses is that they spent 300 years fighting which achieved nothing at all. The success of the clan system is it allowed them to avoid that and keep moving forward.
The Clans also had no concept of how to wage a conventional war. The IS vs. the Clans is a fictional example of a dedicated combined arms force defeating a technically superior enemy.
It all came down to tactics, the Clans, for all their haughtiness and superiority forgot one simple truth Sun Zsu spoke: "All warfare is deception." The Battle Tukayyid proved this, it was a lesson hard learned.
Seconded. The Clans were excellent individual warriors, but they were an absolutely terrible army. Their doctrine didn't allow for fundamental concepts like logistics and pitting strength against weakness (the only one who really understood those things was Ulric Kerensky, and he was constantly undermined by the Crusader Clans, illustrating lack of another vital military principle in unity of command). Moreover, in overall manpower the Clans were at a severe disadvantage, especially since only some of them were invading. Once the IS narrowed the technology gap and really started mobilizing their numbers, it was all over.
@@mam162 I think what really doomed the Clan invasion was that the Wolves were trying to undermine the entire operation and then later were fighting to stop it. What the narrator in MW3 forgets to mention is that Task force Serpent had just as many Clan warriors as IS free birth.
@@spectre111 That's actually an excellent example of a fundamental Clan weakness: internal divisions. Unity of command is a core military principle in real life, and the Clans flat-out didn't have it. Each individual Clan was looking out primarily for number one rather than the good of the whole, and that's no way to run a military operation. In fact, if you read the the sourcebook for the Clan invasion trials, the Star Adder Khans (wisely) suggested that all the Clans invade as a collective, only to get laughed out of the Grand Council chamber. Also, Task Force Serpent did NOT have Clan warriors in the ranks. Bulldog did, but Serpent didn't because the Clans would have assumed a defeat against fellow trueborns wasn't a big deal. The Inner Sphere needed to conquer Huntress with an all-freeborn force to gain their respect. In Grave Covenant Victor Steiner-Davion specifically told Phelan Kell "we'll use their technology, but not their breeding" in the Huntress assault.
@crusaderknight4792 They were, yes, but they are a fraction of what Jaguar was in the past and they in canon bow to Clan Wolf, as their whipping boys now. Long gone are the Jaguars of old. Now the Whipped Jaguars do little except what the wolves tell them to.
Good way of putting it. The Clan had shaped themselves into a proud warrior race, considering themselves superior to the weaklings of the Inner Sphere, but in their arrogance they lost touch with the simple truth that war _isn't a game,_ to be bidded on and fought under agreed-upon ceremonial rules. The Inner Sphere reminded them that the price of defeat is not dishonor, but _destruction._
@@davidnavarro4821 It's also happened to every society, tribe, and nation that's been defeated and conquered (as well as ones which won a Pyric victory). I see no reason to focus on the Axis powers and C.S.A.
"At the beginning of the counterattack, the First Davion Guards and other forces on Port Arthur laid waste to the military capabilities of the entire planet." Yeah and I had a tough time doing it too.
Dark Age stuff- the last of the Jaguar warrior caste was captutred by the Sphere and reformed into a unit loyal to the Republic. They were eventually given the right to leave and construct a 'new' Jaguar as they saw fit.
@@tacky4237True, but it took almost a full century after Operations Serpent & Bulldog and The Great Refusal at Strana Mechty for that to happen. And who is to say that the Inner Sphere powers couldn’t rise up & defeat the Clans again at some point? 😎 #May20th3052 #Tukayyid #NeverForget
The Clans won, but they are at the weakest they've ever been. Besides, everyone "wins" at some point. Half a dozen different factions have held Terra and Clan Wolf won't be the last.
I remember using my Microsoft Sidewinder Steering Wheel's pedals to accelerate and decelerate and my joystick to move the arms and torso, as well as shooting. I felt like a fucking badass.
Mercenaries are possibly the best the Innersphere has to offered against any opposition. Hanse Davion was thinking right when he sent Wolf Dragoons and Knell Hounds for the defense of Luthien. Although badly battered, the 2 merc units were good enough to save Luthien from sure defeat. Of course mercs are a varied bunch, for every Wolf Dragoon or Blue Star Irregulars, you get crap like Wilson's Hussars or Wacko Rangers to the decent like the Avanti's Angels and Black Thorns.
@@thedevilsstoryteller3946 but you are wrong - he and the other leaders during the summit on Outreach were informed of the connection with Clans by Jaime Wolf himself. He said, no matter what House lords will think or do, Wolf Dragoons' 5 companies will fight Clans.
Agreed. Every time nubs would talk of MW3 or such...I used to think they were going on about mechwarrior...not modern warfare (never played any of those games). So yeah...Mechwarrior is the real MW...it came first afterall.
The clans didnt actually get to Terra. When Comstar found out that the clans' objective was Terra, they stopped secretly helping them and called for a Trial of Possession.
In current lore the Clans did take Terra after defeating rhe Republic of the Sphere. After the Republic of the sphere held Terra when liberating it from the Word of Blake. After the Word of Blake took Terra from ComStar, and on and on.
@@extremea7974 come on. Even the other clanners dont like smoke jaguar. They are like they angry uncle of the clans, every one giggled when their butt got kicked.
@@extremea7974 im just saying, go with a proper clan like clan wolf. Smoke jaguar stravags can get lost. They sucked so hard at Tukayyid can we really be surprised that the freebirths managed to wipe them out.
That last image of the skeletal soldier in the desert next to his destroyed Thor is really chilling especially with the music. Would love a high def poster of that scene.
MW2: Mercs was great, but MW3 was the closest to FASA's own intent for the setting, I think. And it did the best job of making the mechs feel physical and real.
The chose Smoke Jaguar because they were the most aggressive of all the clans and one of the two in the best shape at the time (the other being Ghost Bear) as Jade Falcon and Wolf had beaten each other's armies down considerably in the Refusal War. The best clan during the invasion was Wolf as they had taken the most worlds and was the only clan to accomplish ALL its objectives on Tukkayid, whereas Smoke Jaguar was slaughtered on Tukkayid.
dude when i completed the game i thought this ending was so bad ass lol, but i havnt played this game in so long, but damn i think its epic just watchin the video lol
The clans also lost on Lucien the Kuritan capital. Dragoons, Eridani and the Hounds were all there as well as an appearance by the Crescent hawks which had never been seen again or mentioned since the first battle tech games.
Clans are like "tribes" basically: societies where all children are bred for combat and to fight for their clan against the others and win. Basically, they are the best of the best militarily, but attempt at non-stop conquering.
Just finished this. Stacked like 10 m pulse lasers on my mech and we bum rushed them in the circle of equals. I knocked over almost every mech and gave them a mercy shot.
actually Mechwarrior is part of Battletech... So is Mechcommander. BattleTech Arcade (games) MechAssault and all other stuff, all of those are part of Battletech and that mech at the end was the mech on the Intro of MW3 xD
If you've played mech warrior 3 by lone and unsupported they mean no reinforcement warriors. They were very supported weapon/mech wise, they were knocking out mech factories and pillaging them. They had a full support crew, just not enough actual mechwarriors.
The planned operation was two companies. Some die when the dropship gets shot up, and the rest save for the player and the three lancemates you meet all die offscreen. There was also Keith, we don't know what happens to him.
Jack Fraser Mechwawrrior 3 was the first game i played as a child (yeah a child, playing Mechwarrior 3, is almost like a child playing Call of duty!). It is Still my most favorite game of All time, and it has been about 16 years since I've last played it. I never enjoyed MW2 nor MW4Merc, I also feel as if MWOnline isnt really a battle for skill, but a battle for them to get money out of you, which is a big turn down for me. MW3 was comprised of one of the best campaigns, IMO. Each mission somehow led into another, which is great, compared to most games now. I stopped playing the game when it became incompatible for my PC. Although Recently ive found my "not" scratched up Disc and was able to play around some settings to finally make it work! Its like a memory trove! i can remember every mission, its quite fun, I wouldn't turn it in for any other game! (especially GameStop :D )
The Smoke Jaguars were caught off guard and didnt think that the IS is capable of mounting a unified assault against them. I remember the 2nd book on Twilight of The Clans that the IS send out 3-4 RCT's (Regimental Combat Teams which is roughly 324-432 mech units plus multiple elements of support units ie aerospace fighters, artillery, infantry, ETC) against a galaxy or two in a planet. considering that the Nova Cats joined the IS during this time. thats why the Smoke Jags lost the war
Smoke Jaguar were a relatively small Clan who fought about their punching weight. Stretch them too far and they would snap like a twig; this is why the SLDF picked Smoke Jaguar to annihilate
Superior technology does not mean a superior military. That's all that the Clans had over the Inner Sphere. With the truce in place, the Inner Sphere was able to catch up to the Clan's technology, and create new weapons to counter the clans. The clans were arrogant in their beliefs that they were superior, and they lost.
They called for a trial of possession over Terra. The trial was on Tukayyid. Comstar won and according to the forfiet bid by the clans, they would not attack anything beyond Terra for 15 years. but really the event that changed things was the suicide attack by some woman (cant remember name) that killed the ilKhan (something) Showers. The clans were forced to halt their advance for a year whilst the new ilKhan was decided. it takes a year to get back to Strata Mechyt (or whatever it's called.)
Tyra of the Rasalhague led, Forth her fiery flying Drakøns, Gallant in bronze. A warrior woman whose hands Were unskilled in the ways of hearth and home, In skills of war she was hard and trained To leave behind the airy winds and fight Where the void is eternal and life fleeting. Tyra and her warriors fought Like crazed demons above Radstadt. When her fighter was crippled by ours, And her life leaked away into the endless night, She chose to die And sent her fighter like a spear Through the Dire Wolf, claiming as isorla Our mighty ilKhan's life. Sing of our loss, warriors! Sing, but of Tyra also, For though an enemy, her courage none can deny.
If you mean that bug where sometimes you are not visible and not hittable by another player and you can't affect him--or vice versa--no, it still crops up, but it is infrequent. The 'leg-boot' still very much a problem, especially with small mechs.
@mnaglich Agreed. Two of Clan Wolf's leaders (Natasha and Phelan) had extensive knowledge of the I.S., and knew the invasion was going to be HARD. Every other clan lacked the foresight or knowledge of true warfare (heck, I doubt Clanners would be able to take on 21st century military hardware), and they paid the price at Tukayyid. Ghost Bear took one town, and the Falcons were in draw (both JF and Com Guards inflicted massive casualties on each other).
I was playing the game for two months to finish it because it was bugged like HELL and when i was finishing a mission i got victorius message but i had to replay the mission omgwtfbbq :P
I'm a Fan of both Mechwarrior and Gundam and I saw the older Gundam shows. Although I admit....I'm a Mechwarrior at Heart and a Gundam pilot second. With Mechwarrior there is a sense of urgency. A sense of dread. and besides.....You don't get briefings from an awesome guy like the MFB commander. Plus Dominc Paine was Always my fave. And to me....Allen Matilla was always invisioned with a beard and a flask of good whiskey in the cockpit ^-^
The Warden/Crusader division is the only reason they were stopped weren't they as the Wardens secretly sabotaged the trial from memory? I always thought that was kind of dumb, how do you get that far into an invasion then they start disagreeing over what happens if they win.
Not really, the Clans would be even more loathed, and the sheer population base was always going to catch up. By fighting by batchall the Clans were able to win a lot of civilians in the occupation zones (except for the Jags). Even winning at Tukkayid might not have meant anything - Earth is just one planet and the Clans would fight among themselves
James Perkins The Clans would clone an Army so superior, that it would be a impossible for the inner sphere to survive, in reality, not Hollywood, the underdog does not win.
@Gallowell Yeah, and Aidan Pryde risked his life to make sure the Falcons retreat as safely as possible. Smoke Jaguar and Nova Cat got really beat up. Steel Viper had the least casualties, and the Diamond Sharks got wiped out. Ghost Bear took Spanac (not enough Mechs to take Luk), and Wolf obviously won (well, they ignored Clan combat rules and beat the ComGuards at their own game with energy weapons, and they had Natasha and Phelan, two warriors who studied Inner Sphere tactics).
@ElWolf70 Luthien was a place during the Clan invasion when both Smoke Jaguar and Nova Cat were humiliated. Tukayyid was the proxy world where the ComGuards pushed back the six invading Clans (the terms were if Clans take the Tukayyid cities, they can take Terra. If ComStar won, then there would be a truce between the Inner Sphere and Clan). Ghost Bear won one, Jade Falcon had a draw, and Wolf won both. Anyone who has played MechWarrior 2 knows of the Battle of Tukayyid and the Refusal War.
If The Clans won at Tukkayid, ComStar would give them Earth. And probably side with the Clans building their version of the Star League. But in that circumstance you might get more heir-to-heir marriages uniting interstellar nations. Victor marrying Omi Kurita versus ComStar and the Clans... That could be a great alt-universe fic
The clans were hampered by arrogance and an adherence to standards of engagement such as only fighting other mechs one-on-one, rather than ganging up. Also, the IS was just way bigger with vastly more resources and population. The difference in military strength was great at the beginning, but not are great towards the end. Clan society hadn't advanced much since their founding, as evidenced by their use of star league-era tech.
They pulled out a lot of mothballed stuff for the invasion, their best stuff was better than Star League. But, their manufacturing base was small. Too small ultimately.
@FreecapZ Frankly that depend, Gundam Work on "Jam every targeting system ever" particle. And that justify pretty much everything as long you put aside beamsaber and else. As for Mechwarrior, let's say that equally equipped tank (Bolo-like) would scrap their fragile leg very fast.
@Jabob75 Because they were too busy getting geared up for a civil war as soon as the clans were gone. A couple of years after the Great Refusal, House Steiner has the Davion Archon assassinated and launches an attack on Davion forces across the Inner Sphere. As a result, the Star League collapses and its back to bussiness as usual, as it was before the Clan invasion, only now they have more powerful mechs and weapons to do it with
Love it. The intro monologue still gives me chills, though. And MW4 using live-action was really cool, but the game itself could have looked better. I sure hope MWO is as awesome as it needs to be.
Well from what i understand it they were the most powerful of the clans who invaded the inner sphere, thats why the SLDF picked them. The wolfs and jade falcon were crippled after the trial and the "Phelen Kell" issue, the only powerful crusader clan left was Smoke Jaguar
Inner sphere have more balls. The Clanners wouldn't dare go in with an "unsupported lance" Supprise and sheer gall can win you a supprising amount of battles
nope. at least on my PC it run very well. but i had some issues. sometimes i completed a mission but the next mision wouldn't appear and i had to play the last mission again.sometimes the game crashed after a mission finished loading,and sometimes my Mobile Bases would randomly lose equipment like i used them on a mission. But generally it plays fine :)
The Inner Sphere really kicked those Clans buts. Great Refusal! It was a huge trial of refusal. And, just a question, where those Black Hawks in the video KU variants?
Mechwarrior 2 was the most fun but Mechwarrior 3 captured the feel of the Mechwarrior/battletech universe and made you feel like you were living the experience.
As a mercs game it has a more immersive experience
Mw2 had the best music though
And I'll always have a soft spot for the Falcons and the Bears
Mw5 merc howevver...... shut up drop mission win .. and repeat xD and lots of mumbeling :P
@@Albert87nl the music is sick tho... Also that's merc life in a nutshell in battletech
It was gritty and technical, and missions ran down to the wire, I feel like I was trained to run a 70 ton war machine as a child because of it
@@ratatosk001 Mercs was great, very different.
MW2 was very solemn, Mongolian bells and drums, fitting for the grim Clanner duty and outlook on life
Suddenly MW2:Mercs goes this heavy metal route, because WAR IS GREAT, LET’S MAKE MONEY!
It was perfect for the Mercenary attitude, but I still like the MW2/GBL music better .
I still dig the line "The true horror of war- as it is practiced in the Inner Sphere."
Which explains why the IS is 600 years behind the clans. I can see planets like Port Arthur and Tranquil going from developed, prosperous worlds to bombed out slums because the new Star League destroyed anything of use or of value, which means the economy and infrastructure were totally wrecked.
@@spectre111 That is the true horror of war.
@@johnmorris531 And why i sympathize more with the Clans then i do the IS because its something the Clans go out of their way to avoid.
@@spectre111 it's more about the clans don't have a understanding for the concept of "total war" their honour system was s failure from the start...
@@dalesheen1816 Their understanding of total war was as something to be avoided. That is the whole point the Clan honor system and why the IS was so far behind the Clans. The failing of the great houses is that they spent 300 years fighting which achieved nothing at all. The success of the clan system is it allowed them to avoid that and keep moving forward.
The Clans also had no concept of how to wage a conventional war. The IS vs. the Clans is a fictional example of a dedicated combined arms force defeating a technically superior enemy.
It all came down to tactics, the Clans, for all their haughtiness and superiority forgot one simple truth Sun Zsu spoke: "All warfare is deception." The Battle Tukayyid proved this, it was a lesson hard learned.
Seconded. The Clans were excellent individual warriors, but they were an absolutely terrible army. Their doctrine didn't allow for fundamental concepts like logistics and pitting strength against weakness (the only one who really understood those things was Ulric Kerensky, and he was constantly undermined by the Crusader Clans, illustrating lack of another vital military principle in unity of command). Moreover, in overall manpower the Clans were at a severe disadvantage, especially since only some of them were invading. Once the IS narrowed the technology gap and really started mobilizing their numbers, it was all over.
@@mam162 I think what really doomed the Clan invasion was that the Wolves were trying to undermine the entire operation and then later were fighting to stop it. What the narrator in MW3 forgets to mention is that Task force Serpent had just as many Clan warriors as IS free birth.
@@spectre111 That's actually an excellent example of a fundamental Clan weakness: internal divisions. Unity of command is a core military principle in real life, and the Clans flat-out didn't have it. Each individual Clan was looking out primarily for number one rather than the good of the whole, and that's no way to run a military operation. In fact, if you read the the sourcebook for the Clan invasion trials, the Star Adder Khans (wisely) suggested that all the Clans invade as a collective, only to get laughed out of the Grand Council chamber. Also, Task Force Serpent did NOT have Clan warriors in the ranks. Bulldog did, but Serpent didn't because the Clans would have assumed a defeat against fellow trueborns wasn't a big deal. The Inner Sphere needed to conquer Huntress with an all-freeborn force to gain their respect. In Grave Covenant Victor Steiner-Davion specifically told Phelan Kell "we'll use their technology, but not their breeding" in the Huntress assault.
@@mam162 True, but that is why i say the Wardens stopped the clan invasion, not Comstar.
"Hey Smoke Jaguar, remember when you had a clan? /laughs maniacally/" - Prof. Tex
Yeah but according to the new lore in 3150, Clan Smoke Jaguar was reborn.
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OH NO NO NO
@@crusaderknight4792 Ok... We'll just give them another round of it. :v
@crusaderknight4792 They were, yes, but they are a fraction of what Jaguar was in the past and they in canon bow to Clan Wolf, as their whipping boys now.
Long gone are the Jaguars of old. Now the Whipped Jaguars do little except what the wolves tell them to.
1:00 The graphics and artwork make that scene impressively gritty.
This is probably my favorite video out of the whole Mechwarrior series.
When you realize the creators were bankrupt when producing this game, makes you wonder how much thay could have done if they had more resources
Still one of the best endings in all of gaming. A complete rebuke of a society's entire culture, all in one violent "You win, They lose"
Good way of putting it. The Clan had shaped themselves into a proud warrior race, considering themselves superior to the weaklings of the Inner Sphere, but in their arrogance they lost touch with the simple truth that war _isn't a game,_ to be bidded on and fought under agreed-upon ceremonial rules. The Inner Sphere reminded them that the price of defeat is not dishonor, but _destruction._
@@ArcaneAzmadiExactly what happened to the Confederacy and the Axis after their defeat.
@@davidnavarro4821 It's also happened to every society, tribe, and nation that's been defeated and conquered (as well as ones which won a Pyric victory). I see no reason to focus on the Axis powers and C.S.A.
Because they're too good. The Inner Sphere becomes the underdogs. Man Battletech has the sickest story. Those guys at FASA were geniuses.
"At the beginning of the counterattack, the First Davion Guards and other forces on Port Arthur laid waste to the military capabilities of the entire planet."
Yeah and I had a tough time doing it too.
Dark Age stuff- the last of the Jaguar warrior caste was captutred by the Sphere and reformed into a unit loyal to the Republic. They were eventually given the right to leave and construct a 'new' Jaguar as they saw fit.
"...the power of the Clan invaders has finally been broken."
Alaric Ward: "Yeah, about that..."
The Clans Won. As a faction as a whole they won.
:)
@@tacky4237True, but it took almost a full century after Operations Serpent & Bulldog and The Great Refusal at Strana Mechty for that to happen.
And who is to say that the Inner Sphere powers couldn’t rise up & defeat the Clans again at some point? 😎
#May20th3052 #Tukayyid #NeverForget
The Clans won, but they are at the weakest they've ever been. Besides, everyone "wins" at some point. Half a dozen different factions have held Terra and Clan Wolf won't be the last.
MW for me will always Mechwarrior not crap of duty modern warfare...
Smoke Jaguar was an awesome clan, one the fiercest toughest mofos you could fight in battle.
Then Kurita made then bite the curb before a weebs boot stomped down
I remember using my Microsoft Sidewinder Steering Wheel's pedals to accelerate and decelerate and my joystick to move the arms and torso, as well as shooting. I felt like a fucking badass.
Mercenaries are possibly the best the Innersphere has to offered against any opposition. Hanse Davion was thinking right when he sent Wolf Dragoons and Knell Hounds for the defense of Luthien.
Although badly battered, the 2 merc units were good enough to save Luthien from sure defeat.
Of course mercs are a varied bunch, for every Wolf Dragoon or Blue Star Irregulars, you get crap like Wilson's Hussars or Wacko Rangers to the decent like the Avanti's Angels and Black Thorns.
Except a good majority of Wolf's Dragoons were trueborn Clan Wolf warriors sent on recon so...
@@elucid07 That just proves Hanse was right. He just didn't know how right.
Luthien was way more than just those two merc bands
Battletech hot takes: The Clans should have won on Luthien.
@@thedevilsstoryteller3946 but you are wrong - he and the other leaders during the summit on Outreach were informed of the connection with Clans by Jaime Wolf himself. He said, no matter what House lords will think or do, Wolf Dragoons' 5 companies will fight Clans.
Agreed. Every time nubs would talk of MW3 or such...I used to think they were going on about mechwarrior...not modern warfare (never played any of those games). So yeah...Mechwarrior is the real MW...it came first afterall.
The clans didnt actually get to Terra. When Comstar found out that the clans' objective was Terra, they stopped secretly helping them and called for a Trial of Possession.
REMEMBER TUKAYIID
In current lore the Clans did take Terra after defeating rhe Republic of the Sphere. After the Republic of the sphere held Terra when liberating it from the Word of Blake. After the Word of Blake took Terra from ComStar, and on and on.
Nice one, Darmonte. Great end sequence for one of the greatest computer games of all time.
CSJ Forever. Never forget my clan brothers. We will rise again.
Good riddance.
@@badbeardbill9956 You would do well to watch your tongue freebirth
@@extremea7974 come on. Even the other clanners dont like smoke jaguar. They are like they angry uncle of the clans, every one giggled when their butt got kicked.
@@beojack4592 Shut up bonerhead
@@extremea7974 im just saying, go with a proper clan like clan wolf. Smoke jaguar stravags can get lost. They sucked so hard at Tukayyid can we really be surprised that the freebirths managed to wipe them out.
That last image of the skeletal soldier in the desert next to his destroyed Thor is really chilling especially with the music. Would love a high def poster of that scene.
MW2: Mercs was great, but MW3 was the closest to FASA's own intent for the setting, I think. And it did the best job of making the mechs feel physical and real.
The chose Smoke Jaguar because they were the most aggressive of all the clans and one of the two in the best shape at the time (the other being Ghost Bear) as Jade Falcon and Wolf had beaten each other's armies down considerably in the Refusal War. The best clan during the invasion was Wolf as they had taken the most worlds and was the only clan to accomplish ALL its objectives on Tukkayid, whereas Smoke Jaguar was slaughtered on Tukkayid.
dude when i completed the game i thought this ending was so bad ass lol, but i havnt played this game in so long, but damn i think its epic just watchin the video lol
iam a real fan of mech series.nice video dude
The clans also lost on Lucien the Kuritan capital. Dragoons, Eridani and the Hounds were all there as well as an appearance by the Crescent hawks which had never been seen again or mentioned since the first battle tech games.
They get fully canonised in a Spotlight sourcebook!
I remember playing this on my old mac with window97 played clean
who's watching in 2022?
Clans are like "tribes" basically: societies where all children are bred for combat and to fight for their clan against the others and win. Basically, they are the best of the best militarily, but attempt at non-stop conquering.
Amen to that, my friend.
ahhh nostalgia... i still have all the original mechwarrior games... cept mercenaries
Just finished this.
Stacked like 10 m pulse lasers on my mech and we bum rushed them in the circle of equals.
I knocked over almost every mech and gave them a mercy shot.
actually Mechwarrior is part of Battletech...
So is Mechcommander.
BattleTech Arcade (games)
MechAssault
and all other stuff, all of those are part of Battletech and that mech at the end was the mech on the Intro of MW3 xD
Yeah I think the Timbetwolf was the one that killed Allan Matilla's Atlas in the intro movie
man i miss this game..
i typed dude smashes 100 water melons with forehead and this came up...
Thats wild bro
If you've played mech warrior 3 by lone and unsupported they mean no reinforcement warriors. They were very supported weapon/mech wise, they were knocking out mech factories and pillaging them. They had a full support crew, just not enough actual mechwarriors.
The planned operation was two companies. Some die when the dropship gets shot up, and the rest save for the player and the three lancemates you meet all die offscreen.
There was also Keith, we don't know what happens to him.
I feel like I just found a fossil.
Thats casue MW used to be MECHWARRIOR...and nothing else. Long live the MECHWARRIORS!
I never understood how FASA treated such a great brand like shit. I really hope that Catalyst Games goes on rebuilding the Battletech Universe
... are you suggesting that MechWarrior 3 was a bad game? Because I think there's an army of BT fans that might disagree with you there. ;)
Jack Fraser Mechwawrrior 3 was the first game i played as a child (yeah a child, playing Mechwarrior 3, is almost like a child playing Call of duty!). It is Still my most favorite game of All time, and it has been about 16 years since I've last played it. I never enjoyed MW2 nor MW4Merc, I also feel as if MWOnline isnt really a battle for skill, but a battle for them to get money out of you, which is a big turn down for me.
MW3 was comprised of one of the best campaigns, IMO. Each mission somehow led into another, which is great, compared to most games now.
I stopped playing the game when it became incompatible for my PC. Although Recently ive found my "not" scratched up Disc and was able to play around some settings to finally make it work!
Its like a memory trove! i can remember every mission, its quite fun, I wouldn't turn it in for any other game! (especially GameStop :D )
The Smoke Jaguars were caught off guard and didnt think that the IS is capable of mounting a unified assault against them. I remember the 2nd book on Twilight of The Clans that the IS send out 3-4 RCT's (Regimental Combat Teams which is roughly 324-432 mech units plus multiple elements of support units ie aerospace fighters, artillery, infantry, ETC) against a galaxy or two in a planet. considering that the Nova Cats joined the IS during this time. thats why the Smoke Jags lost the war
The Nova Cats and the Wolves/Hounds/Dragoons
The great refusal at Strana Mechti. What did the just bring out a hockey announcer and say,"NO!!!"
@adamant356 Thnx man! That clears up, like, 3 years of wondering.
cool. at the end the mad cat looked like it was grinning
Best mechwarrior game ever!
Smoke Jaguar were a relatively small Clan who fought about their punching weight. Stretch them too far and they would snap like a twig; this is why the SLDF picked Smoke Jaguar to annihilate
They were vicious, but had poor civilian support and so were glass cannons
For an expansion, it added about a 1/3rd of the original game to it, by adding a third clan path to choose.
LOOK PEOPLE.Gundam and Mechwarrior have there ups and downs.Put then together,you get ARMORED CORE.
Superior technology does not mean a superior military. That's all that the Clans had over the Inner Sphere. With the truce in place, the Inner Sphere was able to catch up to the Clan's technology, and create new weapons to counter the clans. The clans were arrogant in their beliefs that they were superior, and they lost.
man... the nova (aka blackhawk) was the ONE mech missing from MW4 that i really missed.
They called for a trial of possession over Terra. The trial was on Tukayyid. Comstar won and according to the forfiet bid by the clans, they would not attack anything beyond Terra for 15 years. but really the event that changed things was the suicide attack by some woman (cant remember name) that killed the ilKhan (something) Showers. The clans were forced to halt their advance for a year whilst the new ilKhan was decided. it takes a year to get back to Strata Mechyt (or whatever it's called.)
Tyra of the Rasalhague led,
Forth her fiery flying Drakøns,
Gallant in bronze. A warrior woman whose hands
Were unskilled in the ways of hearth and home,
In skills of war she was hard and trained
To leave behind the airy winds and fight
Where the void is eternal and life fleeting.
Tyra and her warriors fought
Like crazed demons above Radstadt.
When her fighter was crippled by ours,
And her life leaked away into the endless night,
She chose to die
And sent her fighter like a spear
Through the Dire Wolf, claiming as isorla
Our mighty ilKhan's life. Sing of our loss, warriors!
Sing, but of Tyra also,
For though an enemy, her courage none can deny.
Looks like it was a person named Michael Mancuso - and it looks like he's active in the industry again, working as a producer at Breakaway games.
That's happened to me a couple of times as well xD And I agree with you :)
If you mean that bug where sometimes you are not visible and not hittable by another player and you can't affect him--or vice versa--no, it still crops up, but it is infrequent. The 'leg-boot' still very much a problem, especially with small mechs.
@mnaglich Agreed. Two of Clan Wolf's leaders (Natasha and Phelan) had extensive knowledge of the I.S., and knew the invasion was going to be HARD. Every other clan lacked the foresight or knowledge of true warfare (heck, I doubt Clanners would be able to take on 21st century military hardware), and they paid the price at Tukayyid. Ghost Bear took one town, and the Falcons were in draw (both JF and Com Guards inflicted massive casualties on each other).
@Gallowell yet universally panned, and derided...
"They are the true Mechwarriors." thats what you think CLANNERS FTW
Damn right it is!
still own all the games :D
BattleTech ftw! Was always a fan of the Nova/Blackhawk. Still have the foam battle terrain set for the game :)
Come on my clanner brother ... if it is anything it is Jade Falcon that rules the day. >;)
I was playing the game for two months to finish it because it was bugged like HELL and when i was finishing a mission i got victorius message but i had to replay the mission omgwtfbbq :P
ive played this game omg!
I think the clans learned that you shouldn't make stupid deals like "We won't attack you for a really long time while you copy our tech" ;).
They still could have kept invading right up to the Tukkayid line, get ready to pile it on again when the time was up
Ghost Bears are the greatest of all the clans, I have yet to see them lose a battle...
I'm a Fan of both Mechwarrior and Gundam and I saw the older Gundam shows. Although I admit....I'm a Mechwarrior at Heart and a Gundam pilot second. With Mechwarrior there is a sense of urgency. A sense of dread. and besides.....You don't get briefings from an awesome guy like the MFB commander. Plus Dominc Paine was Always my fave. And to me....Allen Matilla was always invisioned with a beard and a flask of good whiskey in the cockpit ^-^
I always thought of Allan as looking like a blond punk like Billy Idol
@jubokusa i have a feeling that the addon is aways being produced but once it is release we have to wait
they were true mechwarriors
If the Clans fought by inner sphere rules, Victor and Kai Lai, would be dead, and Terra would be regained.
The Warden/Crusader division is the only reason they were stopped weren't they as the Wardens secretly sabotaged the trial from memory? I always thought that was kind of dumb, how do you get that far into an invasion then they start disagreeing over what happens if they win.
@@Spaced92The Wardens didn't want to invade at all.
That's why I love clan bois, they were born in battle, but not in war.
Not really, the Clans would be even more loathed, and the sheer population base was always going to catch up.
By fighting by batchall the Clans were able to win a lot of civilians in the occupation zones (except for the Jags).
Even winning at Tukkayid might not have meant anything - Earth is just one planet and the Clans would fight among themselves
James Perkins The Clans would clone an Army so superior, that it would be a impossible for the inner sphere to survive, in reality, not Hollywood, the underdog does not win.
ROFL!
I was like that on the intro vid for MW3.
I dont get why people argue about MechWarrior and Gundam.You put then together,you get...ARMORED CORE.......
Unfortunatly that...thing...is more well known as MW, but gamers with true taste know its roots in MechWarrior.
The ORIGINAL MW Series. And the best
the mech at the end looks like the mech from an old console game from the 90s called battlemech or something like that.
There was MechWarrior for SNES, and Mechwarrior 3050.
In MechWarrior 3050 you were a Timberwolf. The map was isometric view
@Gallowell Yeah, and Aidan Pryde risked his life to make sure the Falcons retreat as safely as possible. Smoke Jaguar and Nova Cat got really beat up. Steel Viper had the least casualties, and the Diamond Sharks got wiped out. Ghost Bear took Spanac (not enough Mechs to take Luk), and Wolf obviously won (well, they ignored Clan combat rules and beat the ComGuards at their own game with energy weapons, and they had Natasha and Phelan, two warriors who studied Inner Sphere tactics).
I hear that. I threw together a clan-tech wolfhound capable of dropping an atlas in 1 on 1 combat!
got that right x10
That guy sounds like Optmius Prime
i hope they make more games where u can switch between in the pilot seat and third person for those who like both games like me
Haha! Take it, Clanners!
World doesn't even heard about Shit of Duty when first MW came out.
@ElWolf70 Luthien was a place during the Clan invasion when both Smoke Jaguar and Nova Cat were humiliated. Tukayyid was the proxy world where the ComGuards pushed back the six invading Clans (the terms were if Clans take the Tukayyid cities, they can take Terra. If ComStar won, then there would be a truce between the Inner Sphere and Clan). Ghost Bear won one, Jade Falcon had a draw, and Wolf won both. Anyone who has played MechWarrior 2 knows of the Battle of Tukayyid and the Refusal War.
If The Clans won at Tukkayid, ComStar would give them Earth. And probably side with the Clans building their version of the Star League. But in that circumstance you might get more heir-to-heir marriages uniting interstellar nations.
Victor marrying Omi Kurita versus ComStar and the Clans... That could be a great alt-universe fic
The clans were hampered by arrogance and an adherence to standards of engagement such as only fighting other mechs one-on-one, rather than ganging up. Also, the IS was just way bigger with vastly more resources and population. The difference in military strength was great at the beginning, but not are great towards the end. Clan society hadn't advanced much since their founding, as evidenced by their use of star league-era tech.
They pulled out a lot of mothballed stuff for the invasion, their best stuff was better than Star League.
But, their manufacturing base was small. Too small ultimately.
@FreecapZ
Frankly that depend, Gundam Work on "Jam every targeting system ever" particle. And that justify pretty much everything as long you put aside beamsaber and else.
As for Mechwarrior, let's say that equally equipped tank (Bolo-like) would scrap their fragile leg very fast.
@Jabob75 Because they were too busy getting geared up for a civil war as soon as the clans were gone. A couple of years after the Great Refusal, House Steiner has the Davion Archon assassinated and launches an attack on Davion forces across the Inner Sphere. As a result, the Star League collapses and its back to bussiness as usual, as it was before the Clan invasion, only now they have more powerful mechs and weapons to do it with
And then there was the Word Of Blake Jihad
I typed MW3 ending and this came up.
Love it. The intro monologue still gives me chills, though. And MW4 using live-action was really cool, but the game itself could have looked better. I sure hope MWO is as awesome as it needs to be.
Well from what i understand it they were the most powerful of the clans who invaded the inner sphere, thats why the SLDF picked them. The wolfs and jade falcon were crippled after the trial and the "Phelen Kell" issue, the only powerful crusader clan left was Smoke Jaguar
I wish someone smarter than me would make a mod were you'd fight in the Strana Mechty Trials.
Same here
Inner sphere have more balls. The Clanners wouldn't dare go in with an "unsupported lance" Supprise and sheer gall can win you a supprising amount of battles
nope. at least on my PC it run very well. but i had some issues. sometimes i completed a mission but the next mision wouldn't appear and i had to play the last mission again.sometimes the game crashed after a mission finished loading,and sometimes my Mobile Bases would randomly lose equipment like i used them on a mission. But generally it plays fine :)
HAH suck it clanner's!! xD
Wow, 1999 was that good back then. I notice the majority of "kids" playing Call of Duty, but we all know THIS is the real MW.
They were certainly one of the most aggressive and definitely the most hated, especially after the orbital bombardment of Turtle Bay.
Yeah the Jags were pretty inflexible
Holy hell, is that Gary Chalk's voice?
My pc plays Crysis full blown, so it's pretty hard to tell what could be wrong. :P
It's so sad I love this game and used always play it, but my old computer fried and it now won't work on vista! Damn Microsoft.
@crazy4sian Indeed, it did contribute to the general grittyness of the show. it was the Deep Space 9 of Gundam, I guess. :P
The Inner Sphere really kicked those Clans buts.
Great Refusal!
It was a huge trial of refusal.
And, just a question, where those Black Hawks in the video KU variants?
No, those were Novas. The Blackhawk in the game was modeled after the KU but it was supposed to be a Nova.
@HunterZeroModding
lol how's that invasion coming along?