Indians | Ep 5: Nalanda and the Decline of Buddhism | A Brief History of a Civilization
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- Research, Script and Narration by Namit Arora;
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The story of India is one of profound and continuous change. It has been shaped by the dynamic of migration, conflict, mixing, coexistence, and cooperation. In this ten-part web series, Namit Arora tells the story of Indians and our civilization by exploring some of our greatest historical sites, most of which were lost to memory and were dug out by archaeologists. He will also focus on ancient and medieval foreign travellers whose idiosyncratic accounts conceal surprising insights about us Indians. All along, Arora surveys India’s long and exciting churn of cultural ideas, beliefs, and values-some that still shape us today, and others that have been lost forever. The series mostly mirrors-and often extends-the contents of his book, Indians: A Brief History of a Civilization. Bibliography appears below.
EPISODE 5: NALANDA AND THE DECLINE OF BUDDHISM
Nalanda was a Buddhist monastery founded in the 5th century during the Gupta period (319-543 CE)-a creative age for literature, art, architecture, maths and science. Nalanda became the greatest centre of Buddhist learning in the world, lasting more than 800 years until the 13th century. It attracted student monks from across Asia, including three from China whose travel accounts contain fascinating insights into the social life of India and academic life at Nalanda in the 5-7th centuries. They describe urban life, laws, medicine, obsessions with purity and pollution, food taboos, untouchability and religious conflicts. They relate the rhythms of daily life at Nalanda, its curriculum, star teachers, academic debates, funding sources and more.
In this episode, Namit Arora will also explore the many causes for the decline of Buddhism in India, starting in the second half of the first millennium. By the time of the Turko-Persian invasions, most Buddhist sites had already been abandoned, destroyed, or converted into Brahminical sites across much of India. Buddhist artifacts and texts were wiped out and Buddhism vanished from India's public memory. By the early colonial period, Indians had even forgotten that a man called the Buddha had existed in their past! Only in the 19th century did Indians rediscover Nalanda and their amazing Buddhist heritage through archaeology, texts that survived in foreign lands, accounts of Chinese and Tibetan monks, and other sources.
PARTIAL BIBLIOGRAPHY / FURTHER READING
Asher, Frederick M., Nalanda: Situating the Great Monastery, The Marg Foundation, 2015
Beal, Samuel, The Life of Hiuen-Tsiang, Rupa Publications, 2012
Chandra Bagchi, Prabodh, India and China: A Thousand Years of Sino-Indian Contact, 1944
Chattopadhyaya, Debiprasad; Science and Philosophy in Ancient India; Aakar Books, 2013
Chos-dar, Upasaka; Roerich, Dr. George (Trans.); Biography of Dharmasvamin: A Tibetan Monk Pilgrim, 1959
Faxian, A Record of Buddhistic Kingdoms / Being an account by the Chinese monk Fa-hsien of travels in India and Ceylon (A.D. 399-414) in search of the Buddhist books of discipline, Oxford, 1886
Fogelin, Lars, An Archaeological History of Indian Buddhism, OUP, 2015
Ganeri, Jonardon (Editor), The Oxford Handbook of Indian Philosophy, OUP, 2017
I-ching (Yijing), J. Takakusu (translator), A record of the Buddhist religion as practised in India and the Malay Archipelago, Oxford, The Clarendon press, 1896
Jha, DN, 'Monumental Absence: The destruction of ancient Buddhist sites', The Caravan, June 2018
Nanda, Meera; Science in Saffron: Skeptical Essays on History of Science; Three Essays Collective, 2016
Thapar, Romila, The Past as Present, Aleph Book Company, 2013
Tsiang, Hiuen and Beal, Samuel (translator), Si Yu Ki: Buddhist Records of the Western World, Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner & Co Ltd., 1906
Waley, Arthur, The Real Tripitaka and Other Pieces, Allen and Unwin, London, 1952
Xuanzang, Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, July 2009
Yijing, Latika Lahiri (translator), Chinese Monks in India, or Biography of Eminent Monks who Went to the Western World in Search of the Law during the Great T’ang Dynasty, Motilal Banarasidas Publishers, Delhi, 2015. First edition 1986
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It's an eye opener, how society evolved and religions rise and decline, what and how it affects identity as whole.
Brahmins had been eating and living on others misery since long.😮
@@mohammadsheeraz144 muhammad why did you eat the bamyan budhha in Afganistan?
I am very much thankful to your presentation going deep into the past without bias
南無本师释迦牟尼佛
Dhamma must return,
Reclaim Dhamma ☸️🗿
Start with Afghanistan
Very hard
Start from gandhar
@@jidrit999 first start india
@@dk1064 India is secular
I am of the firm opinion that this history series must be brought out in Hindi and our other languages otherwise millions of our people and coming generations will miss out due language obstacle. Please consider this hard truth about our huge nation and an ancient civilisation.
I partly agree with you on the Hindi part. Yes! Because the Hindi speaking cow belt is pulling the nation in the regressive path. The whole narration by Mr. Arora is nothing new to people in the South. That is what excavations in Keezhadi & Muziris (Pattinam) is proving, which the hideous ASI is keen on burying. Now you know the reason why the state of TN is opposed to the Saffronized National Education Policy and NEET. You can spend millions but you'll never excavate the Ramayana & Mahabharatha set to the Indians by archeology. Not my words....Mr Amarnath Ramakrishna's verdict on the state of deplorable ASI. Sanskrit was never and will never be the mother of Indian languages.
You forgot your own mother language and asking for imposed language Hindi. Please excavate your identity and history.
@@subramaniyamm2288
Please read my views again. Did I talk about imposition of one language over other languages?
It is a matter of educating maximum people in various languages. Enabler.
I agree. This have to be in Hindi so the non English people in North India also get this knowledge
English is now an Indian language. Most middle class people have better command over English than Hindi etc. But there are many people who don't know English, just like how we don't know Tamil or Kannada @@subramaniyamm2288
History repeating now, Brahmanism is the biggest curse on this land. Whenever time turn and give opportunity for prosperity of this land Brahmanism take centre seat and ruined all possibilities.
It's very sad and matter of great research what is in Brahmanism that capture people's mind without delivering anything real and meaningful that can make life easier.
🤯🤯
Indeed it's sanskrit - sounds nice and old - except no one knows how all their gods got cursed.
Keep crying and coping. Proud Brahmin here.
@@Aryaveer_jadli lol 😂 pajeet
@@Aryaveer_jadli we don't drink Gaumutra.😂😂 We proud of that. Great Buddhists.
@@Nawongyonten-yp4fz shut up bhangi..your opinion is irrelevant.
Decline and fall of Buddhism was a great tragedy in ancient India
How?
@@MrNataphong find out by yourself.
@@meshaktidancharan I mean why a great tragedy in only ancient India not for other?
You can still practice it ....but not in gandhar or taxila , kambhoj again.
Such an unbiased presentation is like a breath of fresh air in these times of pseudo-history. Please keep up the good work 👍
Unbiased? Sure 😂 The black soot on the walls of Nalanda must be cause of the havans by brahmins 😂
@@jestfuldemigodwhat
@@jestfuldemigodthanks I am not going to read other comments. I already know people not completely fallen for this "The Wire" propaganda. This professor know what they ate in lunch but there is no enough historical avoidance who distroyed it 😂
@@jestfuldemigod so brahmins conducted havens after the removal of white wash ? 🤔
Manusmriti physicians ko Tak shudra bol dete the kyu ki voh sick bodies ko heal karte the toh socho ek scientific desh kaise unscientific bana diya Manusmriti ne ...
Aaj bhi manusmriti se grasit log society me hai jo Aaj bhi isss manuwadi bimari ke karan lower castes Hindus ko taklif Dena param dharma samazte hai ewwwwwww
And yet there is no hard evidence, that the ideas of the Manusmriti were actually put into practise. They sound more like recommendations, that too from the small group of people who wrote it!
The fact that the historian is literally telling our ncerts from school, sadly people don't study at school properly.
People are screaming to 'change textbooks' without even properly reading or understanding them
Why cant the Indian government build universities like Nalanda University and hospitals just like in these times, learn about social evils like endogamy, untouchability, caste system, unclean public places, instead of selectively funding for Ram temple..?
IITs aur AIIMS kya h fir
@@bengalkaladka3401 how many can study in IIT and AIIMS..?
@@kavinanil7406 there are nit / other colleges as well
@@wakeupsid-zz1cz can the whole 140crore Indians study in nit, iit, aiims ..? But why Is the government or the PM visiting temples and creating infrastructure around it rather than on educational and medical institutions...?
@@kavinanil7406 answer lies in your question friend // should we have increased our population to 140 crores // can india a much smaller geographic area than china afford more population than china // can one even build schools , hospitals to cater 140 crore indians my brother // ask yourself honestly // population control is the main core issue nad everyone beats around it no one addresses elephant in the room which is population // all reservations, scholarships will have no impact if you dont control population // sorry for long reply
It would be unreasonable to have a teacher like you in school. Never liked history in school 😂. But have been enjoying your videos so much. I love when you take a dig at hindu sanatanis 😂😂😂. There’s nothing eternal in this world. Everything born, thrive and perish here. Plz plz more episodes ❤❤❤❤
I loved when I read that Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar clearly wrote that the IslamoFascist Invaders were the enemy of the, "But", means Idol and destroyed Buddhism, taking a dig at the Hindu Sanatanis does not require any guts because the Hindu Sanatanis always encouraged criticism and questioning which is proven by the failed attempt at mockery by a member of the Hindu Sanatani family like however taking a dig at the IslamoFascist Jihadi Terrorists takes guts which he does not have which is why he said that the IslamoFascist Invasion was a minor cause for the decline of the Buddhism and tried to blame the Sanatani Hindus for the decline of Buddhism even though Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar clearly blamed the IslamoFascists for the Decline and the Destruction of Buddhism
There can be no doubt that the fall of Buddhism in India was due to the invasions of the Musalmans. Islam came out as the enemy of the ‘But’. The word ‘But’ as everybody knows is an Arabic word and means an idol. Not many people however know what the derivation of the word ‘But’ is ‘But’ is the Arabic corruption of Buddha. Thus the origin of the word indicates that in the Moslem mind idol worship had come to be identified with the Religion of the Buddha. To the Muslims, they were one and the same thing. The mission to break the idols thus became the mission to destroy Buddhism. Islam destroyed Buddhism not only in India but wherever it went. Before Islam came into being Buddhism was the religion of Bactria, Parthia, Afghanistan, Gandhar and Chinese Turkestan, as it was of the whole of Asia.1 In all these countries Islam destroyed Buddhism.
advocatetanmoy.com/2020/05/19/the-decline-and-fall-of-buddhism-b-r-ambedkar/
@@imaginedragons257 problem with you guys is that you don’t read history or you read selective history, and almost never read any books written in the past centuries.
‘ Hindu sanatanis always encouraged criticism’…😅😅😅.
You have a very grand idea about hindu sanatanis. I don’t know what you mean by that but even 100 years back there was no sanatani back then. Only upper caste and lower caste caste and with a suffocating society for women and Dalit.
You know when Ishwarchandra Vidyasagar was fighting hard for women’s education and widow marriage, you know what Hindu sanatanis did? They pelted his house with stones and excreta.
And I do not remember exactly, it was either Raja Harshavardhan or Shashank who destroyed Buddha stupa and hunted Buddhist in Bengal region.
You have to read history books they are written based on evidence, not on someone’s ideology.
And read books. Not some website.
@@AnirimaGhosh so if someone was revering Ram or Krishna or Vishnu or Shiva et al, what would you call that? Some caste thing? Don't denigrate India and HInduism out of self hatred, to sound 'cool', or to impress some US/UK university for a position there.
@@AnirimaGhosh All 'religions' are constructs if you really think about it. If, as you are implying, that Hinduism or Sanathana Dharma was a creation of the 19th century, does that make it less legitimate? It exists in the minds, hearts and souls of people. Good enough!
History by an Engineer without reading the Bakhtiyar chronicles. Leaving a tech job in US and coming to write Indian History with absolutely no knowledge looks like funding from Soros? A change of job, mind, sponsors then The Wire…😅
The only reason of decline of budhism in its origin place is Brahmanbaad Paakhandbaad Murdaabaad
There is no brahman bad pakhandbad in once flourished buddhist land gandhar , taxila , Afghanistan, Pakistan ...but why are 000 buddhist left there😂😂😅
Who b0mbed buddhist idol in bamyan lmo
@@Wen25h Historians like Arora will whitewash that, or simply neglect to mention it.
Loss of Buddhism is the greatest blunder in the entire civilization history of India
So who blew up the Bamian Buddhas? Sankaracharya or was it Vivekananda?
So true
Great scholarly, unbiased reporting. May India have more scholars like you so we can come out of the historical darkness of missing records.
oh come on! Namit is computer science engineer who condensed the history that already exists in Marxist school of history. He didn't establish anything new and history telling by default is biased.
There is no unbiased history.
Here, Namit Arora seems to make a meta point about "hindu nationalism".
please don't give praise to undeserved.
I have always wondered why buddism is a minority in its birth place
When no one in India was interested in history, when Brahmins had forgotten meaning of Sanskrit shlokas, its the foreign historians who discovered and praised IVC, deciphered Brahmi script, made Sanskrit/Buddhism/Yoga/Indian Temple architecture popular. Our ruling party blindly loves it when narrative fits their agenda, but claims as European conspiracy when it doesnt. Hypocrisy ki bhi seema hoti hai.
PS: The whole world can see that this is a narcissistic bipolar attitude and they harbor a deep inferiority feeling driven by a hurt pride. Feel sorry for them. A civilization doesn't have to be the oldest to be respected. Else there would have been no respect for Roman history. I am still proud of our ancient culture and Arya Maryada Purushottam Ram is my role model.
These historians mare following the foot steps of BRITISHERS because they started the excavation of IVC.
We faced Islamic rule of more than 1000 years , many Brahmins were killed. No one was allowed to go to temple without tax. And you are blaming an NGO RSS .
Many temples were demolished by islamic rulers since 712 AD by mmhd bin qasim. Somnath is prominent example.
Don't look historians on the basis of your ideology. India as Islamic nation is on its way because these guys want India to be an ÏSLÆMic nation. ALL of their research based on assumptions.
It was ADI SHANKARACHARYA who saved SANATAN DHARMA .
The day is not far when they will say that there was no ay ADI SHANKARACHARYA.
We must accept that it was the Britishers who created the Hindu religion for their administrative ease. In history, there has never been any king who called himself a Hindu. Even Vads, Upanishads, Ramayana or Bhagwat Gita do not refer to the existence of Hindu Dharma or religion.
@@pardeeptandon read book Indica. Persian always called us HINDU AND Greek Indu
140 crore bharatiya are Hindus
Historians? Did you forget ADI SHANKARACHARYA? DID YOU forget the kings who were fighting @gainst barbarians? Lakhs of BRAHMINS were killed by ÏSLÆMIC RULERS.
WE were under Islamic invasion since 712AD nalanda University , takshashila all were destroyed.
Again we were under BRITISH RULE so it was obvious . Anyway they found it accidentally when they were laying railway track.
@@DS-rr8ih: Since when has your address become your Religion?
EXCELLANT I FULLY AGREE THAT LORD RAMA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AYODYA GOOD NARATER AND AN EYE OPENER THANK YOU SIR 👃👃👃
Give these lessons to RSS schools. Atleast they come to senses and start leaving secularly.
RSS & bjp led government again rebuilt it 🤣...those guys are doing ground work & not just staying with dreams.
Sanatana Dharma is mentioned in Rig Veda . Stop the misinformation , the idea of India as a holy place was well established during the Mauryan times.The whole idea of 4 dham holy yatra ( E,W,N and South ) kumbha mela holy snan and pilgrims going around these places is the testimony of a living civilization which stood for centuries. The whole world was different everything was dictated by religion in those time and India certainly was very religious and not like today modern consumer economy.
He’s here with an agenda.. wire ko achanak laga ab civilizational debate me kud ke jhuth failana chahiye
When is your rig ved written ?
@@prab320before birth of Siddhartha
@@MahiSpeakingthey have their agenda
Nalanda was burned by jealous brahmuns
And the Moslem invaders, bless their hearts, tried hard to revive and rebuild it. And persuaded the Buddhist monks and nuns who fled to Tibet, to return to India. Right.
Balanced annd objective view of history . Excellent.
Andhbhakts and what saap uncle on suicide watch after this 😂😂😂😂😂
bbudhism influence on hhinduism is the main reason for iindia to be sslave nation for nearly 700 yrs .
@@lightgatha follower of popat who involve in bachcha bazi and londa londiya business giving gyan ...lol kehi ka.
SUICIDE TO GYANVAPI KO MASJID BOLNE VALE KRR RAHE AAJ KAL
Nope
No, people in India like debate and discussion. Try Vikram Sampath, Harsh Gupta Madhusudhan, J. Sai Deepak, Amish Tripathi, Rajeev Malhotra et al.
kindly give the evidence of Vedic Brahmins, kshatriya, vaishya in the notes of xangxuan, it sing, and fahian...
Dr baba bhimrao ambedkar ji says that Buddha was born in kshatriya Kings son and read Vedas and Upanishads,book reference: Buddha and his damma
As long as a man can reason, Buddha continues to live😊
Amazing.
Architecture of Nalanda is very similar to Taxila.
This was amezing.
Good to see unbiased history.❤
I was sick of blame game history
Is it unbiased ? Do you know contemporary Muslim historians has described how Khilji destroyed Nalanda, still he says there is no historical evidence!
Thanks for this series, much required for the brainwashed youth of the nation
What about people who are unaware of the culture and history of India. There are Indians who have never hears of the Rashtrakutas, Palas, Pratiharas, Cholas, Hoysalas. Where does 'brainwashing' come in here? In deliberately emphasing European history, and neglecting Indian?
Excellent info!
Kudos to the host and the team for this video. Remarkable job and good digging. Totally unbiased and transparent contain. Yes and indeed , the destruction of Nalanda was not by only one party but there are more than one who hated Buddhists immensely and Buddha dhamma overall. Jealousy, popularity and ego was the key reason for Brahmins to totally annihilate Nalanda from the face of the earth which is very saddening and tragedy.
I don't think behavior of the most Brahmins in this day and age has changed. They still control many Important Buddhist sites such as Bodhgaya and Lumbini ( Nepal), All the revenue collected from Buddhists pilgrims goes to Brahmins first. 21st century and there is still oppression on Buddhists by Brahminism authorized by the Hindu Government bodies in India and Nepal.
The quick reaction by the Hindus on every Buddhist videos on social medias is unbelievable and farce. They claim Buddhism is part of their branch and Shakyamuni is 9th avatar of Vishnu just like you mentioned. There are 84,000 thousands suttas taught by the Shakyamuni and not even single sutta mention Shakyamuni being Hindu god. Shakyamuni quoted himself he is not god or any form of god in " Dona sutta" angutara Nikaya. I think it was not anything but the motive of Shakyamuni being called Hindu god by the brahmins was fabricated story and strategy to convert left over Buddhists in the sub-continent after the mass genocide of Buddhists by these folks.
It was a Dharmic Hindu king who supported the building of Nalanda in the 5th century.
It was a Hindu/Dharmic ruler, Kumaragupta who first funded and supported the Nalanda university. Khilji in 1197 destroyed it. How did it function from the 5th to the 12th century, when there were Hindus and Brahmins in a majority for that long?
some part was really misleading
you should know first there were several parts of buddha dhamma after Buddha's Nirvana
1) Theravada or Hinayana
2) Mahayana
3) Vajrayana
4) Yantrayana
5) Mantrayana
Theravada or Hinayana is only true teaching of Buddhist philosophy.
Rests are for rests 😂
Buddhism never declined but people changed it's form
Mahayana, Yantrayana, Tantrayana and Vajrayana is now the Hindu and Brahman philosophy
True
Indian history is battle between buddhists and aryans - Dr. B. R. Ambedkar
Says a fake NEO BUDDHIST of 1956
Bitter truth. 💯
@@ameya7723pure fictional character follower, casteist keep drinking Gaumutra. 😂🤣😂😂
@@Nawongyonten-yp4fzevery religion is fictional 🤣 .
Aryans are older than birth of buddha🤣
इस सीरियल को हिंदी में भी लाने की कृपा करें महराज,इसी लिए सक्रआइव किए है नहीं तो......
महाराज, जिसको हिन्दी नहीं आती वो कैसे समझेगा? 🤔
Waise bhi hindi wale RSS ki history hi samajhte hai (most north Indian Hindi supporters understand only RSS history)
@@Achin_Jain इसलिए तो इंग्लिश में है।
If this taught in school, I'm sure Modi WOULDNT BE IN ANY POSITION in politics. even CM of Gujarat, BJP came to power WITH WRONG INFORMATION,
Struggling to understand how we Indians will benefit from ruling party's drive of changing history books. Pls enlighten me.
You won't, they might
Who is saying "changing"? It is correcting, updating and "proportionalizing" Indian history texts. Indian history did not start 1000-1500 years ago. Bulk of it today is just that period in text books. Simple example - Indian independence struggle is mostly weighted towards Gandhiji's non-violence and Nehru's whatever. Gandhiji definitely mobilized India. Netaji and many others are greatly under played in history books. Netaji was a big contributor to Indian freedom struggle. Look around even today, the west only understand violence. The British would have never left India purely on Ghandhiji’s non- violence. Netaji's dharmic violence troubled and shook the British. They took Gandhiji's moral exit path to save face. Hope this picturization helps.
@@vijaygarikipati6087 If it is just what you said, i have no problem with that. Problem happens when they start publishing "claims" without evidence instead of documented history with scientific evidence as accepted by academia.
@@VijayKumarIITSrExecutive Claim without evidence has been practised for a very long time. Ashoka converted to Buddhism after the battle of Kalinga ( well established that Ashoka was a convert before the war ) Ghazni came for loot and not to destroy Somnath ( He came to destroy idol worshipping Hindus and the like of those pagan worshippers who were visiting somnath all the way from Persia)
Aurangzeb perhaps build more temple than he destroyed ( Romila Thapar ) His own destruction of temples are recorded in his Court writing including Gyanwapi Mosque Destruction.
British took over from Mughals ( Fake narrative as Marthas and Sikh empires eventually controlled India from Attack to Cuttack and british took over from them and not from the Mughals )
Lmao this is not the first time book is bring changed
This is so interesting. Didn't I know at all.
This series is very interesting to know about myself being an Indian.❤
As a Tibetan bhuddist I really feel cry when I see nalanda and taxshila university , I remember those days in India, I don’t blame Brahman or Muslim, eventually we lost diamond search for gold 😢😢😢😢
who says buddism is lost in india? this concept of someone has to be from some religion comes to india from abrahamic faiths else , for most indians lord budda and lord rama or other lords were just like same god different forms, still today when you will say take the name of lord budda ,,people will remember him as god not as forgotten god but just like our other god. if a common hindu will go to tibet , you will find him to be equally resppecting and accepting buddist culture , and if any buddist will come to india, we won't even realize that he is different !! that is the best part of eastern religion , its not about tolerance it is about acceptance, buddist and hindus accept each other , for people it is alien concept , how one can accept others god , but you also know and I also for me lord budda is god, for you vishnu ,, shiva are also respectable gods.
@@CelestialEnlight I am not saying Buddhism is lost I meant to say ancient India, modern day we call India actually we Buddhist call India is our Arya Bhumi like ( father land )gurukul system we lost
There was not rivalry between Hinduism and Buddhism as shown in This vedeo and many vedeos like this, this is Islamic and leftist point of view, how many leftists and islamists condemned and protested when Budh Pratima in bamiyan was destroyed by Taliban.
They want to dig a deep rift between the two so that they can fight with both of them. After independence temples of Hindus And baudhs were decimated in Pakistan with no distinction, here in this vedeo as well several factually wrong things have told to mislead , his how left intellectual propaganda goes on.
@@tsetenwangyal1407 brother we hindus also lost many things just like buddist due to continuous invasions, afganistan used to be buddist's land, so wrong decisions at wrong times, we lost some key battles and suddenly our ancient culture was gone, mid ages in north india has little hindu-biddist impact all persian or islamic, if it were all indian powers I am sure Buddhism would have got a large following by now !! Even me. Ambedkar accepted Buddhism , so I am sure Buddhism would have resurfaced, but since it was invading powers ruling us , so people actually became more conservative about beliefs we are seeing the result of that even today, Pakistan and Bangladesh became a seperate country just because they were muslims, whereas a buddist wrote a constitution for india which has majority of hindus
@@CelestialEnlight on 1947 when separation time I wish that time taxshila is also part of india
Accurate.
Sir please make available in hindi
Roze Meraz, pyare Nabi ne ek Buraaq Nami Gadhi ke sath Mubashrat faramayi,
Aap RasoolAllah jab us Gadhi ke andar Farig huye to unko Jannat me hone ka ahsaas Hua or us gadhi me Nabi paak ko Allah nazar aaya,
To is kisse ko Aap Hazarat Muhammad ne logo se yu bayaan Kiya ki:-
"Udne Wali Gadhi pe baith Kar me pahale Baitul Mukdas Gya or fir wha se jannat me gya or Allah se mila"
SubhaanAllah MashahAllah
❤ I loved the way u explained.
Sri lankan Buddhists always standing with Indian and pakistan buddhists
How many buddhist alive in Pakistan
@@Wen25h 650 families
@@MahasenChandupa Buddhism existed in West and Central Asia. Who wiped it out from there, Hindus, Brahmins? That would take some proving( because it is false).
Sri Lankan buddhist claim the Buddha was in Sri Lanka . But we believe Emperor Ashok spread the Buddhism after he become a Buddhist and Buddhism florish under his contribution. Many think all the construction was done by him in India. History written by those who in power.
British change the history and rewrite and destroy many evidence . Even they steel many valuable resources. Still can be found in British musuems.
Indian Cholis destroyed many monasteries and burn down stupas and statue of Buddha. And Indian kings rule Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan kings married to Indian princesses build hindu temples in buddhist temples for worship to their wives. That adopt some hindu beliefs into buddhist culture. Some which rejected by Buddha. Example cast system and women purity etc. Even today most of buddhist temples have hindu deities worship and believe than Buddha's teaching.
Superb!
I have no words for the excellence of the work Sir, Arora.❤❤❤
This is one of the best docuseries I've stumbled on about Indian history! I can't thank The Wire enough for such nuanced content!
Can u plzz dub this video in hindi....my parents can't understand English....I wanted to show them this video....
Wonderfully narrated; I like the references and sources noted. A nice bibliography would aid folks such as I. Thank you very much. You are doing a wonderful service, particularly because leaders of the nation are fabricating history
This video is less about Nalanda, and more about what Chinese travellers said about India.
And remember that these are just travelogues with biases of the writers and not objective historical truth.
Well said, low key, calm. Yes, Chinese Buddhist travellers would naturally have a very strong bias toward Buddhism, which is okay , but don't expect it to be the whole truth!
Thanks for great information
I get goosebumps everytime i study history with peoples like arora sir ❤
🔥🔥 These Brahmins destroyed 40 thousand monasteries in amaravathi..
🔥🔥 पूजा हो रही है
मेरा दिमाग मजबूत है
जाति की अधिशेष गुणवत्ता महत्वपूर्ण है
सार्वभौमिक प्रेम! विनुरा वीम!
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Buddhist ashoka too destroyed & killed ajivikas ...buddhist hardly curse him.
There were not even 100 monastaries in Amaravati.
@@varoonshekhar4023 I admit my typo error fact is overall dear.
There is no proof( though all of a sudden, historians are making these claims) that Brahmins or other Hindus destroyed any monastaries. Buddhism was seen as another school of thought, or way of life. There were debates, sometimes spirited, but it rarely degenerated into violence.
@@varoonshekhar4023 you are an VILLAGE educated traditional sweet LIER🙏🙏😂😂
Well unbiased presentation❤
Great 😊
As expected an excellent summary of Indian history based on real historical data and well presented in easy to understand format
An example, How history should be taught not to favour and neglect any sides, but to present facts as it was leading to logical conclusion plus the depth of this empirical research earns our respect. Proud to be a history student. Need more of such eye opening episodes
There are so many issues with how this book is written. There is so much black mirroring and presentation of opinion as facts. Blanket statements throughout.
It's an engaging presentation of Buddhism. I really like the reason explained for the decline of Buddhism in India. On a minor note, since I am from Andhra, I wondered where the Telangana is on the India map.
better then Discovery's Buddhas relic series... wish this could pitch to big channels.
Buddhist learning centre was destroyed several times. First it was the Hindu Brahman king pushyamitra shinghu who killed Asoka's grand son to acquire power. The second time the Gaur kings of Assam destroyed the Buddhist temple at both Gaya as well as nalanda University. At the time of Bakhtiar khilj only a skeleton portion was there. Read history and don't lie plz.Nalanda ko jalaya : 1199 mein
Bakhtiyar khilji DOB: 1206
kaise possible h *The ANTIQUARIAN REMAINS ON BIHAR BY DR. PATIL Published in 1963 Ka book padho
*DR. DN JHA DELHI UNIVERSITY KE
HISTROY DEPT. KE PROFESSOR KE
ARTICLES mein kahe h BUDDHISM ke 2 bade hisse ho gye the
1 Hinayana: jo buddhism k karib the
2 Mahayana : Hindu barahmano se
effect ho kr bana tha ye dono ke aapas ki ladai m Mahayana Nalanda ko jalaya😊
Nalanda didnt protest against the hands that fed it, unlike 🫢
I am overwhelmed by this bold testimony and courage of the narrator. Buddhism indeed succumbed mostly due to the political, social, religious politics of Brahmins and reformists like adi shankaracharya etc.
Even when everything was wiped off, but still rocks, edicts, Buddha idols,stupas and monasteries emerges from the earth wherever they dig in India, south east asain countries, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc
And even today Buddhism is taken to be part of Hinduism which isn't and should not morally be for any hindu.
Buddhism is beyond religion it's what the tathaghat taught , it's a unending chain of rosary that shall continue until the end of samsara.
Many vaishnu, Shiva temples across the nation are hiding all the Buddhist sites upon which they were built. These tragedies are incomparable to that of Babri masjid and gyanvapi masjid.
But today there is evidence around us to get all these information through research and contemplate upon the fact.
One should not be sentimental of being devalued due to one's faith to particular religion. Fact is fact, history can't be repeated nor changed. We only learn from these and hope that our hindu brother won't blatantly claim that Buddha is Vishnu avatar and Buddhism is part of Hinduism.
Hinduism has its own place according to Vedas and respect that.
Buddhism has its own place and respect that.
Obviously left ideology driven biased account. Relying only on foreign travellers' account. Indian sources are neglected in the narrative. About Ayodhya why Kalidasa's works are not taken into account ? In the name of history please don't sell ideology. It's not fair.
Kalidas is not real 😂 truth us truth Rama Krishna Shiva are just 1200 years old gods copied from buddhism
@@alphaff9939exactly.
@@alphaff9939 What do you mean he is not real? Can you really prove Shakespeare or any ancient writer/dramatist existed? Have you seen them with your own eyes? If you didn't, then they didn't exist! We accept certain things, because they make some sense, and because there is some evidence, usually literary. That's how it works.
With every new episode i get to know some knew stuff that I never heard before 😂
Your history narration is unbiased and amazing keep it up🎉
@@anantkris6350 yeah some teachers teach their subjects by putting their own biased beliefs and try their best to hide the truth. you should feel sorry for yourself to 😂
@@anantkris6350 I am not professor of history so I asked chatgpt
is there any evidence that bakhtiyar destroyed nalanda?
ChatGPT-
There is some historical evidence that suggests that Muhammad Bakhtiyar Khalji, a Turko-Afghan military general of the Ghurid ruler Muhammad of Ghor, was responsible for destroying Nalanda mahavihara, a renowned Buddhist university in ancient India, around the year 1200 CE12
According to some sources, Khalji attacked Nalanda as part of his conquest of northern and eastern India, spreading his empire and the Islamic faith. As Nalanda was an institution of Buddhist knowledge, it was destroyed largely to eliminate intellectual and spiritual traditions that competed with Islam34
However, some scholars have questioned the reliability and accuracy of the accounts that attribute the destruction of Nalanda to Khalji, and have suggested alternative causes such as gradual decline, sectarian conflicts, or natural disasters5
*Therefore, the evidence for Khalji’s role in destroying Nalanda is not conclusive, and the topic remains a subject of debate and controversy among historians.*
My suggestion -
Before coming to conclusion look for the evidence don't come up with your own beliefs and stories and teach history to everyone so go read and confirm with evidence first then say it for sure otherwise just shut the fuck up.
@@anantkris6350 if you have the courage to listen my points then don't try to remove my comments.
It's a Gem...
We need such evidence based historical narratives. Too much politics is going into current popular versions of our history.
what about the way history was written between 1950-2010? Was that absolutely wonderful, balanced, fair and honest?
This is amazing, an eye opener and provides much needed information.
Very educational and understandable
Please also bring this series in hindi
An excellent presentation that is true to the two key requisites for any historiography- veracity and causality. Notwithstanding a few mispronunciations (for instance, Yogacara, IAST Yogācāra is pronunced yogachara - yoga + ācāra), a flawless effort. Waiting for the next episode!
Buddha is not just light of Asia but the whole world
According to the West, the Buddha is only the Light of Asia. Christ is the Light of the World
I liked the music very much 👍🏽
Buddhism may have vanished from India, but it's dharma was to be spread around the world! I'm a Sanatani Sikh and I also follow the teachings of Buddhism and Sanatan Dharma! I wish people could see the unity between these two ideologies instead of the differences!
Please tell this to BJP & RSS Brahmins.
Our Buddhists sites have been destroyed by believers of brahminical faith. ( there are also good anti caste secular from so called upper caste people,i am not talking about them)
Do not agree. This historian comes across to me as a muslim apologetic and a brahmin bashing one. He hides behind a list of sources but the role of turkish invaders Khilji in destroying Nalanda and Vikramshila is very well known. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalanda_mahavihara#Destruction_during_Turkic_conquest_(c._1200_CE). Moreover he uses the word "Brahminism" a word coined by a 16th century missionary and later used by Britishers in a polemical sense to denigrate their contributions and in this video to talk about events that occurred ten centuries ago and to construct narratives to suit his ideology or agenda. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Vedic_religion#Brahmanism.
Why does everything have to come back to 'caste'. Can't people think?
A very great presentation of our ancient history totally unbiased. Keep the good work going on sir..
Today, Buddhism is the national religion of 8 countries, all of them more developed than India. 50 years after the death of Buddhist king Ashoka, the Great Brahmin King called Pushyamitra Sunga destroyed all Buddhist Vihara in India. He committed genocide on Buddhist Monks and banished them to the mountains. I wonder when we will do Ghar Vapsi of Buddhist Viharas like Meenakshi temple in the south and Goal Mandir in Patna?
Acha Myanmar 🇲🇲 is more developed 😅😅😅
@@dhrubajyotidebnath6192 Yes, they are not starving or lack of food in any Buddhist country.
Being a Buddhist, I don't see Buddhism has any role in economic development of Buddhists because there are rich n poor in Buddhism as all religions have.
@@saddha1 Myanmar is not doing well.
@@varoonshekhar4023: Even The Percapita GDP of Myanmar is more than that of Bihar, where Buddhism was born.
History is always confusing. I doubt even buddhism exist in India before emporer Ashok . Afterall , the maghada under his ruled he do not know buddhism because buddhism not exist in India at that time . After his war into the southern part and war in Kalinga, after he met Devi buddhist wife only he aware of buddhism . I think king ashoka build buddhist monasteries what its claim the land of Buddha not existed before . He contribute to it massively and use buddhism as friendly mission among his emperor.
There are evidence of the Buddha existence in Sri Lanka, visit three major buddhist temples, 1st, fifth and eight years from his enlightenment . The Buddha’s first visit was in the ninth month after Buddhahood on Duruthu (January) Full Moon Day.(1 B.E. or 528 B.C.)
That was to Mahiyangana where the Yaksa Clan of the entire island was meeting in the
Mahanaga Garden
The second visit was in the fifth year of Buddhahood (5 B.E. or 523 B.C.).
The Buddha visited Sri Lanka for the third time (that was the last time, too) at the invitation of King Maniakkhika first arriving in Kelaniya, in 9 B.E. (519/520 B.C.) with 500 of his followers.
After 400 years, buddhism reintroduce to Sri Lanka by Ashoka' s mission . Mahinda (Sinhala: මිහිඳු මහරහතන් වහන්සේ) (285 BCE - 205 BCE) was an Indian Buddhist monk depicted in Buddhist sources as bringing Buddhism to Sri Lanka.[1] He was a Mauryan prince and the first-born son of Emperor Ashoka from his first wife and Empress Devi, and the older brother of Princess Sanghamitra.
Now , some claim and found evidences of his existence in Sri Lanka which is hidden in forests . Many invaders Indian and western to the island distroy real history written in favour to them. History written by those who win and in power.
Original script of early buddhist script secured in ancient temples were steel by british and now the scripts in british museum.
History is political and geopolitics exist in early politics too.
it didn't drop from the sky under Ashoka. There are references to it existing at least 2 and a half centuries earlier.
Do you how Gandhi ji came to know there was dharma called buddhism exist India through a book " the light of Asia" .
It was creation of British by the Alexander Cunnigham.
How wonder how such iignorance .
This happen in 18th century. Even there is no evidence of pali language born in India. But there are many evidence of the pali text carved in caves, and stones in ancient buddhist temple.
It is crucial for every person in India to be educated on these facts.
वेदिक इतिहासकारों ने बौद्ध जम्बूद्वीप का इतिहास दबाया ।
Great as usual. Very revealing that worship places of one relegion has been replaced by another at different times of history, as a matter of course. We are grateful to presenter that his series will promote harmony and brotherhood amongst different faiths and ethnic groups in the sub continent. Grateful, sir.
I agree with with most of what being presented but you conveniently brushed aside turko islamic invasion as a minor reason, you referenced Dharmasvamin as stating that Nalanda was still functioning, which is true but you ignored his statement in which conditions it was Functioning, you didn't mention that only a few handful of monks were there who were repeatedly harassed and on the run from islamic military, that Vikramshila university was turned to Military Garrison and Buddhist in particular were repeatedly and Harrased by the ones whom you cited as minor reason. Your presentation is biased.
From the episode transcript, this is what the narrator says: “with Indian Buddhism already on life-support by the late 12th century, the final blow was delivered by the Turks, who finished off its last few, barely-functioning monasteries. But even this was not as black and white, or as dramatic, as many think it is. The popular belief that Nalanda was destroyed by the invader Bakhtiar Khilji (in the 1190s), is not supported by historical evidence. Nalanda was still going in 1234-36, patronized by king Buddhasena of Bodh Gaya, when Dharmasvamin, a monk from Tibet, studied there. Rather than a dramatic final end, Nalanda continued its long phase of decay and depopulation for decades after Khilji’s death (1206).” [His book has more details.]
Clearly, this is not contrary to what you’re saying! If Nalanda was continuing in 1234-36, albeit in a much diminished state (for many reasons), it had not been finished off by a raging fire and wholesale slaughter by Khilji, as is popularly believed. Dharmasvamin never mentioned Khilji, and his account says that some of Nalanda's monasteries were still undamaged and functioning when he stayed there between 1234-36. The master he studied under had 70 students. So it was not a dramatic end for Nalanda (as the narrator rightly says), but a long process of decline in which the Turks played a role, though a relatively minor one. Nalanda's monks had long been harassed, persecuted, and made to flee south by the Hindu Sena dynasty of Bengal. Buddhism in India had shrunk to these small pockets and was already on its deathbed in the 1190s for reasons that had nothing to do with the Turks.
If you want the Turks to bear more of the blame for Buddhism’s decline than is supported by historical evidence, the bias may lie elsewhere.
@@Indian-xj5ww Are you saying the Turks were gentle and benign?
monestaries*
Sir, u ‘re largely right but I have a small difference of opinion, where u stated..it was oldest university or not….reason for not being a university..had conditions like…being Buddhist & celibate…that reason is purely logical & moral..cuz Buddhist philosophy is anatma & more moral..with no family clinging & striving for buddhahood/ moksha.
Excellent. Salutations to your research!! I knew all the reasons. But I needed to hear from like-minded Indians 🎊🌈
How does one fail to mention that aryabhatta was a student at Nalanda? What about buddhist cosmology? The abhidhamma? Lots of inaccuracies but atleast somewhat unbiased.
Seems like a good call, not a failure. Is there any solid evidence that Aryabhatta was at Nalanda? I don't believe so; it's mere speculation. Aryabhatta is more accurately associated with an institution at Kusumapura, around Paṭaliputra.
@@Indian-xj5ww his own works are his the evidence, just look it up. If you don't want to read lengthy sutras then just google it. He even headed the mathematics department at Nalanda.
@@Indian-xj5ww guess where nalanda was? Near pataliputra and kusumpura itself 🤷🏻♂️ doesn't matter what you believe, since you aren't a celebrated academic historian. His own writingings and historical texts attest to that. Just do some digging.
Thankyou soo much sir to deliver such a golden Buddhist history of India to us 🙏
This is what called history without any bias
Excellent series
Loved this episode❤
Secular History
Excellent. These episodes show how real facts never really match any ideology, how the reality of life is always multifaceted and is always more rich and complexe than any belief system, opinion. May our faith come from real life experience, may we be wise enough to reject all propaganda...
But what cannot be countered is that an invasion occurred, by people who were very different, and who followed a different religion. That is beyond question.
Identity of India is Budhha
Excellent
Wonderfully informative, though provoking and engaging!!
Beautiful, eloquent, and factual history telling
SubhaanAllah,
Ma Bahan ki chaddi sunghna to RasoolAllah ki sunnat he,
Nabi paak Muhammad Sallahuwalewasallam bhi apni ammi huzoor ki Chaddi sungh Kar UNGH UNGH ki avaaz nikala karate the, or mast ho Kar nanga naach Kiya karate the,
MashahAllah
Harsha showed black skin and the following Prakrit language is Mistry to understand that.
Another brilliant episode full of facts and incredible story telling
Very informative
Eagerly waiting for the next episode.
Namo buddhay 🙏🙏
Imagine telling to today's audience about the historical timeline of the Ram bhakthi movement and how Saket turned into Ayodhya
Is it possible that the brahminal king can rule over a constituency as they never practice to either fight or rule?
Love this series ❤