FLEX TESTING a Jeep Gladiator with ACCUAIR Air Suspension on the Rocks Plus Other Benefits
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2023
- Does it flex? That is the one question that I get asked all the time about the ACCUAIR air suspension system. That or versions of it like, can it flex? What kind of articulation does it have? Can it rock crawl? And, that's what Cindy and I hope to show you in this first video of the ACCUAIR Jeep JT Gladiator, out on the rocks and with the purpose of letting you decide how it does. I should note that you'll also get to see a few other cool benefits of having this kit so pay attention and be sure to watch until the end.
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I don't think you could ask any more than that from airbags. Pretty impressive.
Coming from someone who wheels big Jeeps with coilovers, I have to say that I wasn't expecting a whole lot but once we were out there, I was pretty impressed with what I saw.
@@wayalife
A whole lot more options if your Jeep is a somewhat Daily Driver...
I think even Eddie is scratching his head in disbelief of how well rounded this system is turning out to be. Honestly, "so far" this system is turning out to be a serious consideration for someone like myself! Looking forward to seeing Eddie put this through its paces. Cheer's 🥃🥂
LOL - not gonna lie, this suspension system did perform way better than I had imagined. I was genuinely impressed.
Thanks for all your accuair videos. I’m a disabled vet and at the age of 70 I’m finally giving in and lowering the difficulty of the trails I ride and looking for a more comfortable ride. I’m going from a JL Rubicon to a Bronco (IFS benefits) and am considering the accuair system. I greatly appreciate the info you are providing.
As an aside, you have excellent off-road driving skills, unlike a lot of the TH-cam personalities who use speed and over-built vehicles to make up for their lack of skill. The “kids” need a good example, and you sir are.
I am truly humbled that you would say as much and I do think a lift like this will serve you well. Thank you for your service.
pretty impressive for sure. would love to put this on our mojave, but I would be sleeping on the couch for years. maybe you can call my wife and convince her that we really need this. thanks for the great videos you guys put out. lots of hard work in editing all this together.
LOL - well, I can certainly try 😁
Glad you enjoy our videos.
I’m blown away by that Accuair system. You guys put it through a good mix of easy to somewhat difficult obstacles and it handled it great. So awesome how you were able to simply raise the whole rig to clear that ledge! The flex was really impressive ad well, no way did I think you’d get that much articulation. I honestly don’t fully understand how it can achieve it. Thanks for showing your test sessions!
Glad you like it! 😊
@@wayalife how do i buy/get replacement bag's for the jeep kit?
looking 👀for some fronts
Yeah but how does it feel?
@@danamcwhiteMy brother bought it for his JT and the ride is pretty great. It’s really smooth on rough roads absorbing/damping the bumps really well, unlike my springs. 😂
@@mikepierson3097 did he install or do they have install places? I seen a guy on here say it took him 30 hours to install it
That was a GREAT video! Amazing drone shots and crawling action.... WELL DONE🤩
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
The production level has always been high on Wayalife...but that doesn't stop them from raising the bumpers even more!
Can't wait for the next one.
LOL - love the raise the bumper comment! Thank you. We're truly flattered that you would say as much and glad to hear you enjoy our videos.
Yes… been waiting for this video forever… glad you finally had the time to post it… 😃
Hope you enjoyed it!
That was pretty impressive! Can't wait to see more. Great video and awesome editing as always!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great job editing to the both of you! It’s great that you actually tested it like you wheel you own Jeeps. Interested to see how those airbags hold up to constant flexing on the trail. Although the air system doesn’t flex and travel as well as a coil setup, for everyday driving and towing, the air system seems like it would be awesome.
Thank you and fortunately, we got the green light from ACCUAIR to "drive it like it was ours". As far as durability goes, ACCUAIR is so confident in their system, they will warranty it for 100k miles.
I’ve seen your videos on how you really wheel… 😂 You are the real deal on R and D for any review. Others review cars and parts like it’s a virgin! You, on the other hand, tear’em up. 😂😂
Great job Eddie.
@@jdc1997 well, to be fair, I didn’t want to take out the tail light 😁
Great video Eddie. Not only the rock crawling itself, but the cinematography as well.
Thank you, we really do appreciate it and glad to hear you enjoyed our video.
Well Damn Eddie, looks like that air ride handles some pretty substantial crawling, I am impressed! Being able to air it up and maximize brake over clearance, priceless! Thanks for another excellent video
So glad to hear you enjoyed our video and found what this suspension can do to be impressive.
Think I was the first person to ask this question. Glad you did the video because it's a Jeep and we tend to go on adventures anytime. Always a great channel and your the best with your followers, so thank you sir.
Happy to hear you enjoyed the video and appreciate you asking the question. 😎
Great video, air system seems to work pretty well on the rocks I might have to look into a system for myself
Glad you enjoyed seeing this and yeah, it worked a lot better than I would have thought. It's definitely something worth looking at.
You absolute mad lad, Eddie!
Great stuff as usual (Cindy does some amazing work), thank you for sharing!
LOL - Glad you enjoyed it 😁
Definitely works better than I thought it ever would off-road. I shot video of a 6 door Jeep on bags in Sand Hollow Utah that was very impressive.. The ability to lift and lower is nice.
Bro. Eddie … Your Editing & Production Quality Team are Next Level-‘no cap.
It’s understandable why, mad, sponsors come-a-knockin.’
What’d you guys do, binge on Walter Murch Master Classes ( In The Blink Of An Eye, 2001 ) ???
I digress.
This system might be, perhaps, “spared no expense, ” but from my vantage - it’s seems, quiet, choice.
I appreciate your effort and attention to detail. ✌🏽
Truly humbled that you would say as much and happy to hear you enjoy our videos 😎
To be honest, I didn't expect that, but surprisingly it works amazing. Can't wait for the next one.
Not gonna lie, it was surprising to us as well LOL
15:17 Flexed out! Those bags were put through some rigorous testing. But the Accuair held up pretty good. Thanks for sharing. 🤙🏼
Glad we were able to share this with you and that you like what you see :)
Another great video, a lot of good info and of course the scenery was cool!
Glad you enjoyed it! 😎
Thanks for the video! Now I feel relieved since I already ordered and just waiting to install on a JLUR! 😅 Just for camping/overlanding mostly around Colorado; no extreme rock crawling.
Honestly, that is what I see this kit being best at. The fact that it can flex as well is just a perk.
Awesome System! And as always very nice to see Moby’s (Cindy) got your Back just in case! 👍
LOL - always good to have someone to rely on and yeah, I was pleasantly surprised at how well it did out on the rocks.
Right on Eddie!! almost 200K subscribers. Good on ya' my man!!
Thanks 👍
Looks like this build would be the perfect candidate for the 74weld portals...nice video, keep'em coming!
Great video. Continuing to enjoy the evaluation of this system.
Glad you enjoy it and we should have another video up today :)
Absolute top notch video guys!!👍🏻🔥
Thank you. Happy to hear you enjoyed it :)
Great video that System seems to work pretty good looking forward to seeing more test on it
Glad you enjoyed the video and hoping to get more up soon.
Nice work Eddie! Thanks for showing it off!
Happy to hear you liked our video and glad to show off your suspension so that others can decide for themselves what it can do.
I like how these work per corner, very cool. Tire inflation is very cool too. This could be a nice upgrade for my RockLander build eventually.
Shorter airbags integrated into a coilover would be a neat way to select ride height without making the spring too stiff. Airbags filled to max height tend to be very stiff and result in a pogo stick effect (like the Grand Cherokee TrailHawk) however these seem to still compress decently at taller ride heights. I bet you get better fuel economy on the highway If you lower the ride all the way down too.
Yup, when set to #1 which is 2" lower than the default height, you do see better fuel economy.
Awesome video and info as always 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
Best TH-cam channel ever!
Truly humbled that you would say as much, thank you.
That is a completely awesome set up Eddie! It’s good seeing you, Cindy and Moby out having an air-rocking good time.
Now you have me wondering if Accuair can outfit front to back my 22 Lariat F350 7.3
You have a wonderfully unique way of presenting your videos that I find absolutely refreshing.
Glad you enjoyed seeing this and I do think that ACCUAIR does make kits for other vehicles.
Awesome video as always!
Glad you enjoyed!
really nice product...loved the video too!
Glad you liked it!!
Have a good time thanks
That was one of my quedtions, thank you for show us this video I think will work fine for us
Awesome! Glad we were able to show you what it can do.
OMG, after watching you do the thing with the sway bar disconnects, that was crazy! I just installed a pair of used JKS disconnects on my JK which were supposed to be "easy" and turns out you have to have it completely flat AND have someone jump up and down on the bumper... I guess I'm just not man enough... Love this air system.
LOL - glad we could share that with you :)
Does what you need it to do. Seems like some quality stuff! The coolest part was when you leveled it out for the sway bar. That’s super convenient.
Glad to hear you like what you see :)
You guys are crazy! Awesome video and skills.
LOL - glad you enjoyed the video
It's really nice to see you airing down 😌👍
LOL - glad you enjoyed seeing it.
Always enjoy your video 📹 😊.
Happy to hear it, thank you.
Loving this suspension!
Glad we could share it with you in this video :)
That is nice setup great work
Glad you like it
Very interesting, as a new sub I’ve got some ideas…
While driving on an edge of a slope (as if going to flip) can you air up one side max and bottom out the opposite side to feel level inside just for kicks.
Next when the front and rear opposite tires are free spinning or there about (stuck), add air to the compressed (grounded tires) to give traction back to the ones that has lost it. Being non rubicon think that would be an interesting test for many.
Cant forget max payload and trailer tongue to test out the towing handling characteristics.
We'll try to showcase some of that in future videos.
Awesome performance in airbags! But, honestly, Moby is just another level… what a beast! 💪🏻
LOL - well, there is a HUGE price difference between the two Jeeps. 😁
It's always good to see Moby
Glad to hear there are still people who enjoy seeing Moby :)
It really does look badass! $7k though 😫😫😫
But living in Southern California and using my Gladiator as my daily driver maybe it would pay off on fuel economy savings by being able to lower it while driving on the freeway 😊
It's pricey for sure but still less than coilovers and in some ways, more functional. Their benefit really comes in how you use your Jeep.
Very nice setup. I am SOLD. Take my Money AccurAir.
Glad that we could share this with you.
So excellent, wish I had a jeep!
Hope you're able to get one some day and glad you enjoyed our video :)
I tow with my gladiator (tow the TJ on an open trailer) and am also looking at an overlanding set up in the future for the JT. Kinda curious on the limits of it for towing, load capacity, load capacity and towing, and of course max lift height for that long JT frame break over angle. Seen this lift on display in person at GSMJI in 2022. Really like it. Great video!
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video 👍
Works great!
I think so.
Looked to me like it worked pretty darn well!
I won't lie, it worked better than I had imagined.
Ouch…that sounded painful 😮. Not sold on it but pretty good. Thanks Eddie, have a great day sir
LOL Thanks, you too!
Boy that gladiator is in dire need of a Rubicon transfer case , like wow it needs it badly.. but that suspension works extremely well . I was amazed on how well it flexed ..
LOL - tell me about it! It just had no power on the really big stuff. Otherwise, I'd have to agree with you - I was pleasantly surprised at how well it did in the flex department. I really wasn't expecting it.
Really suprising it was lacking power, with 8 speed and 2.73 to 1. Great video though! Now for my 4xe, no place to put that airtank.
Oh, there was power, just no torque.
Happy to see you tested it on real terrain and let the video do the talking.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it 😊
I bet it's comfy, I have similar air bags on my truck 👍
As a matter of fact, I do think it rides nicely.
Awesome video!! You need to talk Accuair into giving you a set-up for a JLU for installing and testing and show the install and ride with it. I would love to see how it works before dropping over 7 grand on the system, also I have full Artec Aluminum skid plates and want to make sure the air systems mounts. What size tires and offset is on the JT? Again, Awesome Video!!
Glad you liked the video. Not sure if it would work with your skids though or at least, as a bolt on kit.
I'd like to see how it performs with rtt and gear in it like many gladiators . I know mine is loaded. I have 3.5 metalcloak and it handles everything great. But I do like this air system. That extra inch when needed is very useful
The ACCUAIR suspension system is made specifically for carrying heavy loads and without compromise to ride height or ride quality. We will show a test of this in an upcoming video.
This seems like an even more perfect setup for over landing, this would fix the sag in the back when loading up great and the rooftop tent, or even hauling a teardrop trailer
Honestly, overlanding is what I see this kit being best at. I think that it can also flex on the rocks is a major perk.
The ability to level with a rooftop tent and change ride heights I knew about. When you used it to reconnect the sway bar…🤯
LOL - glad we could share this with you 😁
Very nice video 👍🏻🤩
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Nice. Answered my questions. I'm ready; just need my bank account to be ready too, as with all mods.
LOL - glad we were able to answer your question :)
Love the video! Wondering if you had stock axles and gear ratio on that Sport to turn those 37s?
Stock axles and 4.88 gears
Yeah I’m digging the air ride system can’t say I’d use it for hardcore Jeep wheelin but for your avid off-roader looks awesome I run a Keldeman on my F350 and it’s the original old school I still love it. Great video brother always dig them🍻
Thank you, we're happy to hear you enjoyed the video.
7000 !!!!!!! Are you kidding me , at first I was thinking wow out of air bag suspension but then seeing the cost no Fn way !!!! But great Video as ALWAYS !!!! And I'm ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY IMPRESSED BY ACCUAIR !!!
LOL - it ain't cheap but it's really not that far off compared to other standard coil and shock kits and still cheaper than coilovers. But clearly, it's not for everyone. Glad you enjoyed the video.
On LSD (limited slip deferential) I came down a trail, not too challenging in my Mojave, 4H, offroadplus on, traction control off, stability control off, and hitting whoops, switchbacks, and weathered ruts at 25mph plus- it's like Mr. Toads wild ride... hold on with two hands at all times
LOL
Impressive!
Not too bad for what else it can do for sure.
I didn't know you had lockers in that Gladiator. Nice.
Yup, ARB front and rear. One of the benefits of having an air compressor on board :)
This may be a little long. I like the concept. It seems to work. Moby on the other hand is amazing. But over the years I have seen what you put into Moby (still my favorite) Moby was in keeping it tight. This is cool. I would stick with Moby wayalife. Eddie thank you for another fantastic video. Oh one last thing Jane. Do you still drive her?
LOL - oh yeah, we love Jane and drive her all the time. We just don't make videos of everything we do with her.
Apparently it has more than enough flex for 90% of most trail situations...far better than I would have thought. I was wondering when you were going to raise the suspension for better breakover & departure angle, the nemesis of all trucks...didn't have to wait long.
LOL - didn't even have to try and make that scene happen. The need arose and I took the opportunity. And yes, I think this kit offers MORE than what most will ever need.
I want to see the Accuair Gladiator on the Rubicon or a similar trail. Something long that will thoroughly test the system's ruggedness.
LOL - would love to but we're having one of the most epic winters I have ever seen. If this keeps up, we won't be able to run the Rubicon until July.
the Jeep Gladiator is from around Orlando Florida
Great video like always, pretty impressive. Did the gladiator have lockers? Just wandering since it is a sport.
Yes, the Gladiator is running 4.88 gears with front and rear ARB lockers.
Great video! What's the OHV area your wheeling in?
3:30 MST. I am not that familiar with ACCUAIR but any air bag system, such as the one in my Land Rover, can leave you in big trouble if a bag blows out in the back country. I know from experience as one of mine failed at the top of Imogene Pass in Colorado.
ACCUAIR is owned by Arnott, a company that has been making air suspension systems for well over 30 years. They purposefully made their air pistons out of a thicker ply than what comes on ANY factory vehicle and are so confident in their durability, they will warranty them for 100k miles.
Great video, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
@@wayalife they mention diesel support in the future at all?
I have it on my Deisel jl and it works great. Unfortunately it can’t be sold as a direct bolt on kit with no cutting involved. The inner bump stops on a Deisel are longer as well as the 392 or 4xe. So there is some cutting involved. That’s why they don’t offer it for the Deisel , 392, or 4xe yet. According to AccuAir mine is the only Deisel that they are aware of that has this kit, and they (AccuAir) had to do some engineering to make it work correctly. I would like to guess that in the future it will be available. As to when I don’t know.
@@Rockyc I'd love to chat more to hear what all you had to do to make it work for your diesel
@@thaddeuslove6313 They fabricated a skid plat to hold the air compressor and valve body under the jeep in the rear. Now I’m in a different situation due to me having the 2021 setup, that came with dual air tanks. So my tanks are mounted on each role bar on the angle in the back of the jeep. Due to the bump stops being longer, the bump stop housings had to be cut down some to get a correct fit for the air bag. Other than that, that’s about it. I had a lot of problems out of the 2021 setup due to install issues, and AccuAir was a great company to work with. They really took great care of me.
Probably the best solution for those that want to overland and light Rock crawling.
It did well ( obviously not as good as a full coilover kit with long arm Suspension ) if all you're going to do is Rock crawl idk why anyone would buy a Gladiator to just do that...
Air-Bags hold up well ( only downfall is getting oil on them. )
Not sure of the quality of the Air Compressor but it probably wouldn't hurt to buy an extra one ( just in case )
It also would be nice if they could design some sort of a Puck to stick under the bag to raise the Vehicle if Failure should happen to one of the bags.
The Best kit out there for Versatility, hands down!
I agree, this kit is probably best suited for your typical overlander who might dabble in some light rock crawling.
It does flex!
I have to admit, surprising even for me.
Impressive for sure.
We think so too :)
@@wayalife Did I pick up a hint of a possible upgrade to the transfer case??
@wayalife how does the draglink account for the different ride heights? I assume the steering wheel straight ahead would change at different heights. There is a sensor in the steering that will activate limp mode as a traction control tactic if it's senses that the steering is too many degrees turned after certain speeds are reached in the case that the vehicle is in a side slide.
As I mentioned in our previous video, all the suspension and steering components are set for the default ride height, setting #2. At setting #1, there isn’t enough of a change in geometry to affect steering and you can drive at all speed without issue. Riding on the bump stops or at maximum height, setting #3, you can only drive at speeds of 25 mph or under. In other words, below the threshold that would trigger the traction control system.
@@wayalife thanks for taking the time to respond… I have yet to see the other videos in the accuair series, but as expected, this one was pretty awesome. Thanks for clearing that up, and it definitely makes sense of the settings for the ride height speed limitations.. well done!🤝
You guys must have another place in Florida. Couldn't help but notice the out-of-place Florida tag. 😁
LOL - this Jeep belongs to ACCUAIR and they're located in Florida. They just asked us to take it around the block and share what we thought about their air suspension system 😎
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That's an impressive amount of flex for anything, let alone air bags. Whoever designed that setup knew what they were doing. My only concern would be if the system springs a leak while on the trail and the gladiator ends up on its lowest setting. Still, I love unique builds and this is awesome. I also love that you give love to the sports - this ride, and Pippie. Do you still have pippie? Regardless, happy trails!
ACCUAIR is so confident in the durability of their suspension system that they will warranty it for 100k miles. As far as Pippi goes, yes, we still have her and hope to put out new videos featuring her soon. :)
@@wayalife glad to see a company standing behind it's brand! And happy to see new videos with Pippi!
Great review thanks.
1) Wonder how it is for pre running for fast flatter dirt fun?
2)Wonder if we could do Fox show if we were inclined down the road with the kit?
1) we will be putting out a video on that soon. 2) so long as the shocks are the same length compressed and extended, there should be no reason why you couldn't run a set of Fox
I don't have one ....but I think the high speed stuff would give more of a pogo effect. Better shocks would help but still think the prerunner speed is better left to the springs. what setups are on the prerunners that are without budget.
lol love the air....my Denali is not a flexer....but love the air....
LOL - it's surprisingly not so bad 👍
@@wayalife awesome....just posted my paint protection product MEK magnet
Would love to install this system, but I can’t justify throwing away my new build out of a lift, new shocks, steering components, air compressor. Maybe on the next new Jeep!
Très belle vidéo avec images qui donne envie.
Merci beaux
This looks like it flexs awesome!!!! Does it droop as good as a regular setup...3.5 Evo...Meatalcloak...or Clayton. Seems like for me at least it flexs more than I would need and the ability to raise and lower would be more valuable than an extra few inches of flex.
The amount of flex any suspension kit provides is always determined by the length of the shocks they are running.
That's pretty darn impressive, Eddie. My curiosity lies in this area. How does the ride off-roading compare with a coil sprung Gladiator, of course, with lift and 37's?
So, ride quality is 100% subjective but in my opinion, this system rides smoother and more comfortable than our stock 392 or JL Sport. As far as off roading goes, I would say that it's as comparable if not a bit better than a lot of kits that I've tested with 37s.
That area looks amazing Eddie can I ask where that is?
Great video . What kind of drone is that ? ✌🏽🙌
We are using 2 drones, a Mavic and a Skydio.
Please give us an updated review as I am thinking of buying one for my JL
We posted up the following video after testing it out for half a year th-cam.com/video/fWDqCv5cjtM/w-d-xo.html
Kinda amazed.
Not gonna lie, me too LOL
On bumps/humps how does it feel? Must be better than traditional lift kit but less than the EVO high speed kit you tested couple weeks ago?
You are correct. This suspension system is not nor is it trying to be a set of coilovers. It rides nicer than stock but no where near as fast as coilovers. We have a video on this coming soon.
pretty impressive for sure. would love to put this on my Gladiator
Very nice! What is that buzzing sound around 9:54? It seems to run for some time. Is it the air compressor? If so, why does the system need more air, is it the extreme articulation?
The Jeep you're looking at runs ARB air lockers. Unfortunately, the one in the rear ProRock 80 axle has a leak inside the differential. We've replaced it several times and it's just a defect in the design. It still works with the compressor on but it is annoying to all hell.
Great video! What wheels are you running on that Gladiator? They look nice.
Glad you enjoyed the video! The wheels are TIS Offroad 556
Very cool!! What are the negatives to running this kit outside of the price and possible air leaks?
Cost is definitely the biggest negative but if you watch all the other videos that we've made testing this kit, I think you will find there aren't too many others.
The Gladiator is a jeep, that even surprises the jeepers themselves
LOL
My Jeep is a JKU 4 DR and she’s my Daily Driver. How are the manners on the Street?
I’m so torn between this System vs a Clayton Lift w/ SDI-ECLICK PRO.
Thoughts my Friends?
I just found your Videos recently thanks for the awesome content.
Peace
Street manners are great. Super comfortable and stable. Way better than most of the lift kits that I've installed and tested over the last 25+ years.