NEW McLaren Artura Review: Great, But Not Ready | Catchpole on Carfection
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- The McLaren Artura is the brand's first plug-in hybrid supercar. Styling wise it looks very familiar but how does this new hybrid system change the characteristics of the car? And will the new hybrid system be reliable?
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Would you go for the McLaren Artura or the Ferrari 296 GTB?
The McLaren every time ! 😊
Ferrari
The 296... If I were choosing... It just seems that bit more special.
But neither are really my cup of tea.
296. Sadly McLaren still seem to have quality issues.
Ferrari
I'd kill to see a vid of all the reviewer heavyweights. Same track, same day, same car. Henry vs Sutcliffe vs Monkey vs Jethro maybe add Harry in for a wild card. Let's see who's fastest and can pull the most lurid skid. Maybe Carfection could set it up?
And tiff needel 👀
How you going to forget Chris Harris? The true GOAT of reviews
@@porscheguy5848 he’s monkey 👍
@@porscheguy5848 monkey Aka Chris harris 😎
@@porscheguy5848 bruh monkey is harris. Thats his nickname. Harrismonkey
Everyone else: car review
Carfection: cinematic experience
Great job again team👍
Yes it's absolutely carfection ⛽️
Watch Harry's Garage review. That's the most real review.
As a McLaren 570 owner I’m disappointed that yet again the factory are pushing out cars to the press fleet that aren’t 100% fettled and ready for the onerous testing that so obviously awaits… issues with software really are unacceptable on IRIS after 10 years evolution🤔… none of this helps the “cars are fragile” reputation of McLaren within the YT and SM community.
Painfully reminiscent ill-practices of another British Sportscar manufacturer, that paid the ultimate price of their recklessness... they no longer exist, sadly... A once respected manufacturer with proper British heritage, a company sized just right, just enough to still be in touch with their prospective buyers and enthusiasts, and owners on a personal level that owning one meant like it or not you bought into an actual family and friends; part of the allure for most buyers. Owning one put you closely in touch with anyone from the company, a long lost practice, or rather i should say reality of Manufacturers like Ferrari and Lamborghini, Porsche even.
Something about British made exotica that are unique enough to appeal to a very particular set of folks and enough to keep the money coming in just enough to continue its hand made construction. British built sports cars like Lotus, McLaren, TVR, Noble, etc are as delicate financially as they are constructed. Unique as they are meant to be, attracting customers who desire something different than the usual Italian or German offerings.
Jonathan - I am referring to TVR by the way. The ill practices I keep hearing and reading about from owners of McLaren are becoming undeniably frequent and were the same practices that eventually killed TVR.
This is the Artura review I've been waiting for.
Love to see this vs the MC20 and 296GTB
Completely different cars: 296 is in a superior class (both for price and performance), MC20 is more of a GT (and isn't hybrid). I think some fairer comparisons would be this vs 911 GT3 vs Huracan RWD vs R8 and MC20 vs Turbo S vs McLaren GT.
296 would destroy it. This car is underpowered, as ridiculous as that sounds to say about a 670hp vehicle.
@@seligerKU not underpowered, just a different class
@@Taz1451 yeah
Terrible for Mclaren to launch a car in those conditions. The car was a mess in terms of reliability and it seems 2 units caught fire (that's what happens when you layoff half of your workforce).
Please Mclaren fix the car before you start delivering them to the owners, your future as a car manufacturer depends on it.
idk which one to focus, the immense cinematography or the automotive journalism. Both are bloody blooming amazing!
I love the design of the lights there mixing the practicality of the 720s and the look of the p1
Tbh I wish they would try something new, it's the same look on most of their cars and they just don't stand out amongs each other.
@@ahoymateeez they are fine
I have watched a few different reviews of this car and this is by far the best shot. The cinematography is brilliant. The intro is great. Better than Evo, Top Gear. Etc. Keep it up guys.
What about Doug???? Surely his videos are the best shot?
As a sidenote: congrats on the Speedmaster Henry :). Looks good.
hasn't he had it for a while now?
Watches are almost the dumbest veblen product out there, I will say it's better than carrying a $1,000 phone though.
I understand that it’s their bread-and-butter model, so they don’t want to risk much design wise, but a fresher approach would have been good.
For the “average” person they all start to look the same, which makes it outdated right from the beginning.
Nice video (as always)!
Cheers
if it ain't broke....
same way why 911 looks the same for the last 50 years
@@ChR0nos_7734 The important difference:
The 911 is 1 iconic model of a otherwise very diverse lineup!
McLarens models are - except for some limited halo projects - basically indistinguishable for the average bystander. Is it some 6xx, 7xx, 5xx?! Which model year?!
In addition even powertrain etc. are repetitive.
A Ferrari is always a Ferrari, but they have multiple clearly distinguishable models, and constantly reinvent their design language.
they are copy-pasting for sales to fund their out-dated, end of the era driver like ricciardo
@@bella_testastretta No matter for what reason, copy-and-paste is always dangerous for a car manufacturer!
Especially when building more expensive sports cars, which heavily rely on design!
You may copy/paste some entry level Golf to a certain degree, but otherwise have to evolve or reinvent.
Porsche created a Boxster, a Cayenne, a Carrera GT etc.
When talking about McLaren most people know the iconic F1 from back in the day, but can’t tell you what they’re creating right now or what model they’re looking at!
It revs a lot! Sounds better than the V8 to me; it's more "sound" and less "noise".
The styling...well, it doesn't look much more modern than a 720S, but I still like it. The interior is not very attractive to me.
I really hope they can fix the reliability issues that all reviewers mentioned.
Another great review by Henry!
I like this new breed of 6 cylinder PHEV supercars, and I can appreciate the Artura is not as fast as the 296 and that's fine. I feel that abandoning the alphanumeric scheme right when it's finally something everyone is used to is confusing and opening themselves up to criticism. It's hard to tell where this car stands in the lineup so if its performance doesn't match superior competition, people will criticize it because they don't understand where it is in the lineup. I worry it'll do more to hurt the brand than help it.
If McLaren can't even bring trouble free cars to a press launch, what chance does a normal person have?
Once the video embargo for a new model is lifted, I have a handful of similar videos in my TH-cam feed.
Carfection and Henry Catchpole always stand out as the superior production and review.
So its a Honda NSX... Love it!
Ferrari interiors look a lot more luxurious and upmarket. It might not be as ergonomic as this but it definitely is worthy of being in this segment's supercar.
We are spoilt with Catchpole, Bovingdon and Sutcliffe posting reviews. It has to be said, from a production point of view Carfection is a clear step ahead of all the rest. You mention the intsrument binnacle, we see a perfect shot of the instrument binnacle, on the move. Lovely. Thank you guys, and please keep it up for at least as long as Harry Metcalfe has by now!
At least it didn't burst in to flames half through the review 🔥
As a big McLaren fan, this hurts so much to read, even though deep down I know it's true.
@@StarOfArtemis That’s British build quality right there. Perhaps they should allow Audi brought them at least that will improve their quality
@@tommywang8229 Then they'd remove all the fun.
@@EvoraGT430 fair points
Actually another one did on the same launch...
Nice video as usual but I really do miss the days of the 570gt type of cinematography. everything feels rushed these days, I recall a video of you reviewing the 765LT learnt something about a cactus on that video.
Loved the review. Well done. I like that they kept the styling in-line with previous models.
Nice to see Ascari back. It's been a while
I wonder how many owners will drive reasonable distance electric only, go on the highway, switch on the combustion engine and start flooring it with the engine cold...
I'm kind of shocked modern cars don't lower the rev limiter according to engine temperature.
After everyone telling the manufacturers they don’t like capacitive touch controls for HVAC and audio, they insist on using it. For what its worth, I think it’s because it “gets in the way” of the futuristic look they are trying to go for. Buttons and knobs date the car in their eyes. Too bad, figure it out, that’s your job, make the buttons and knobs look good and usable. Done.
These days touch screens are cheaper to make than physical buttons. Car makers are marketing cost cutting as a futuristic feature. Unfortunately it’s unlikely that they will ever switch back
@@stevenjalopnik1342 That may be true, but on what’s going to be a £200k+ car by the time you’ve added a few basic options, you’d have thought they could damn the expense and make something tactile and functional. They still use mechanical steering so why not mechanical knobs?
@@stevenjalopnik1342 I seriously doubt touch screens are cheaper to build than physical buttons. Where did you get this information?
The opposite is true, computers age like milk and date a car horrifically.
As for styling, McLaren's approach is their own. While I enjoy Ferrari's departures from their own norms, these aspects are what make the car makers individual. I'd love to see more design evolution from McLaren, but I woudn't ask them to do it. Just as I'd never ask my girlfriend to dye her hair to please my whim.
I kinda miss the 12C styling, though the 720s and GT were also good looking. Their other cars look decent but nothing I'd fall in love with.
@@Bruno-cb5gk The 12c was a munter. Sorry
My God... your editor of/and DOP is killer.
You guys and all crew make the best films. 👌
Thank you. 😊
A real shame that TWO journalist cars caught fire (one smoked up, the other caught actual FIRE) which isnt ideal on a launch. McLaren has some work to do. This isnt it.
Do you have a link for this incident? thanks
That do sounds like mclaren,which they couldn't really make electronic reliable
Aren’t these cars from old tests?? Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought these and also the lotus Amira journo cars were all pre (full) production cars. Like we are all watching old videos and it was done on purpose by the manufacturers so that they can go back and correct stuff
I’m not sure that warranty gives confidence.
It just means that when the car is away at the garage for months out of each year, there should be no invoice at the end. But you still won’t have the car.
And warrantee doesn't guarantee problem-free, if you're dealing with corporate slime such as VAG, FCA, or Mercedes.
@@numbereightyseven
Corporate slime? McLaren has a very low score on how they treat customers. There are so few of them that even one bad client-facing individual can taint the whole brand. With the other groups, one can simply move to a better shop. With McLaren, many people have to go to Manchester.
Kind of mad that their response to "This brand new car has issues" is "When it breaks down we will fix it under warranty" 😐
Sorry but the exterior design looks just the same as most other McLarens and I think MCL have missed a real opportunity here. Would be the Ferrari all day for me!
Works for Porsche???
You could say that about Lamborghini, Ferrari, and Porsche design, too.
@@lucasblanchard47 Porsche maybe but not Ferrari. Their GT and supercars looks different
@@tommywang8229 ok sure but their supercars and GT cars do have their own separate design similarities.
@@lucasblanchard47 I think the problem is that McLaren's product line so far has been all mid-engined, low-slung supercars. Such similar product lines combined with a unified design language make consumers think their cars all look the same. There‘s nothing wrong with family design language. If you can use the design language in all kinds of vehicles. That will build a very good image in front of the customers
I've waited so long for a review on the artura tnx gus
I’m a 600LT Spider owner, so I’ve been looking forward to the Carfection review of the Artura.
I saw a pre-production model last year, and whilst it was nicer inside than the previous Sport Series car, it was also extremely bland. Having watched this review I also think the car is just too safe and just as bland to drive as it is to look at. There’s nothing about it that would tempt me away from my 600LT. This will be a big issue for McLaren if previous owners feel the same way. Hopefully it’ll be great for the residual value of mine!👍
Me too, I don’t think it’s aimed at the current 600LT owner which as we both know is heavily track orientated , saw the Artura at McLaren’s Silverstone track day, it’s nice but doesn’t give me the wow factor in terms of looks , the rear window and roof line isn’t great tbh, I hope it’s successful for Mclaren, if not I really do fear the McLaren brand.
I like this style. I prefer this one, especially cus McLaren makes a kind of the same face in every model (each different generation).
Another great video. In addition to comparing the Artura to the Ferrari 286 GTB I would love to see how they both compare to the outgoing Acura NSX Type S. I think that would be a very interesting matchup.
TBH THIS IS The Best ARTURA REVIEW
If this thing always starts up in E -mode and you have to change into a street or track mode to get the motor running, aren't you at risk of going for the ICE performance on a cold engine?
Yes good point. With my PHEV BMW I’ve been using the engine when I depart just to warm it up and then go back into hybrid mode when there’s heat in the engine. Then I keep a watch on the temp gauge to be safe
The engine goes into conditioning mode before it actually starts delivering torque.
It looks good and I love their doors that go up. The software issue is concerning, so I really hope they really fix this.
centre console screen looks like it's straight out of the volvo xc90 .
I'd love to see Henry, Steve and Jethro all get together and start their own channel👍👍👍
Is Henry the greatest motoring journalist - probably
For some reason the car reminds me of a Lotus design. Smaller engine, insistence on weight savings, mid engine, and front end feel and bite. It's also really attractive.
If I had mad money, I would buy one, but not until its 2nd or 3rd year of production. The reasons are obvious: There remains are too many software and related issues to sort out. Plus, I have a suspicion, by next year, McLaren's gonna swap out its e-motor for something with a little more BHP. (Maybe it will do so after up'ing its current line of V8's output to something like 810 bhp) :-)
Fantastic review, I just wonder how long until that "chimney" catches on fire on a customer...
Thanks Henry!
Great video. Hopefully McLaren launches a non hybrid version of it with even more lightweight parts. I do love driving in electric only mode in cars though that said. 👍🏼👍🏼
Regulations probably won't make it feasible.
Hi Henry. Must firstly say I really really love you videos. Sadly I'd probably never will experience a Mc Artura but it looks lovely. I agree with you that a unsettled rearend in the breaking zone is fun but not fast :-) but is it controllable then it's both. Please keep up the good work. Kind regards /David Johansson Sweden
I’ve been looking forward to this
The new Maclaren Emira looks fabulous!
An “axial flux” electric motor is the kind of thing I would hear in a movie and think “well clearly they made that shit up”.
Congrats for hitting 1 million subs carfection.Btw lovely content as usual 😍🙂.
Sounds like they need a bit more time in the oven. Can't say I'd invest nearly 200K into something that's not quite done and kind of glitchy. However, it looks amazing and has a tonne of promise. I like what I see.
Heard there were a few glitches on the press launch even one car catching on fire
At some point, McLaren are going to need to come up with a car design which doesn’t look like any other McLaren ever made… Also, come off the fence, which do you prefer: Artura or 296 GTB?
Artura
Let's hope they sell more than what feels like 6 GT cars they made
Amazing content as always! I had a thought while watching though, I'd like to see Henry's footwork at times, even if it meant having a camera somewhere next to his head. Just a thought.
It's a beautiful evolution of the current McLaren line-up. Unfortunately it doesn't inspire excitement like Ferraris and Lambos do, with their louder engines and exhausts. Nevertheless, I'd love to test drive one some day. Thanks for the great video!
I agree. Mclaren has sooo much potential but they really are making things difficult for themselves.
Shoulda called it mp4-12 v5
I'm surprised you guys didn't review the Lotus Emira :( Coming in the future, maybe?
Coming in a few days
Rear end styling now pretty much resolved and has that McLaren signature.
Not convinced they’ve achieved the same at the front.
Still, this seems professional overall and shows good progress.
In all, if they can make them and service them properly this time… this might be the start of ‘The Re-set’ for Woking. I suspect there’ll be no third chance….
Who or what is Woking!?
@@Sidowse is that where McLaren is based out of?
Wish they had just made this power train in the 720s
Oh that first shot 🤩🤩👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This is far from a 'great sounding' engine imo - but there's one thing that I have to applaud McLaren for, and it's the signature 'tone' they're able to give to ALL of their engines. Despite this being a V6 with very different harmonics to their previous V8 engines - it still has the same sort of characteristic change in octave as you climb the revs. This might seem like silly praise - but 90% of modern cars are so muffled that they just sound like 'a noise' rather than a 'build up of mechanically rotating power' (for a lack of a better description) - and I think it's worth taking the time to mention on how mcLaren's efforts to actually pay attention to such a vital aspect of the driving experience do not deserve to go unnoticed.
Hahaha, I made this comment before I'd even really got through the beginning of the video - but it seems Harry was actually quick to point it out at 4:22! Fair play.
when the engine kicks in, is it already warmed up?
I so badly wanted a McLaren but just too many horror stories about reliability and build quality so went for a Honda NSX. No problems with it so far and absolutely loving it as does everyone that sees it! 😎
@@Taz1451 oh you’re one of those. 🙄
For a manufacturer with it's roots in racing, and being all about the driving experience, I'm surprised once again that there are ZERO buttons on the steering wheel. I like to keep my hands on the wheel while doing all manner of things that Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, Aston, AMG etc. let you do whilst driving. Why doesn't McLaren? Could it be their unique relationship with electronics?
A spyder version of this (with buttons on the steering wheel) is a car I would consider.
Good to see the Speedy back on your wrist Henry
Wonderful video Henry 💪👏👏👏
I know companies have to evolve with the way the world is going, BUT driving E- Mode for just under 20 miles and looks like a 570 GT what’s the point ….. The GT is far more practical…… and most definitely quick enough on any roads including the German AutoBan ….
For that money , I’ll take a 992 turbo s please and never look back!
pretty car, hope they can sort the niggles. When are you reviewing the other new V6 on the block - Emira?
I would never buy a McClaren. Love the looks and the sound of them, but they just have so many problems. Henry does a great job of revealing the issues they had during this review. My question is why would McClaren release a car that they know has issues? Why haven't all of those issues been addressed as opposed to them offering longer warranties? McClaren needs to hire Porsche and learn a thing or two about releasing a car that is perfect when the buyer buys it.
Not quite sure where you'd buy a 'McClaren'. But I'd definitely buy a McLaren
@@roscoecoltrane6867 The ONLY place that I would buy a McClaren, if I were to ever buy a McClaren, would be at a McClaren dealership. (And only a new car. I would never buy a used one)
Until McLaren resolve these issues will stick with my gt3, too many unknowns with McLaren although the ward Argy and servicing start to address so do the concerns but regardless of whether faults are covered you don’t want to waste time at the dealer sorting them out
I think you’ll be keeping the gt3 for a very long time in that case.
As a 600LT owner I have to say I am disappointed that McLaren didn't push the envelope more with the design of the Artura. This is the main reason I would not consider moving to one from my car.
The #1 problem with this car is it doesn't have a Hypercar above it to establish the prestige of the platform.
30 years ago the XJ220 was a record breaking car when it released so the V6 Turbo was justified, likewise the new Mercedes runs an F1 V6 and we know it's all absolute top spec, but here McLaren is just releasing a mid-range car into a sea of mid-range cars with the same specs.
What does this do that the 2016 Honda NSX hybrid doesn't ?
I kind of like the Mclaren design language. The more I learn about the different models it's like finding Easter eggs where before you only saw pleasing river stones.
Wonder how many will burn down because of that heat?? Would rather the 296
The V6 in the 296 GTB sound's much better
I’d like more info on the “chimney”… is it just a hole in the lid or something more?
You guys should do the commercials for McLaren...that intro...wow!
That's what these videos almost always are though.
Hybrid supercars are fine, but turbo supercars just make no sense-- if you're buying a turbocharged car as an enthusiast, the turbo is a HUGE part of the experience. That's why we love blow off valves so much (or the lack of one, respectively). Supercars are about drama-- if you're buying one, chances are you want either a sky-high rev limit and a lotta music coming out the back, or you want something like a 930 which is all lag, then ALL the torque in the world. These modern supercars are just fast-- they make zero noise and they're too insulated.
Call me crazy, but I'd honestly rather have a hot hatch and a TON of cash in my pocket over one of these.
1:25 you crossed the Kazunori Yamauchi bridge in Ronda
They should have been a little more radical at the front but all in all not bad, I hope they get the problems right I have a order in for one since the middle of last year.
As ALWAYS ...GREAT video..cheers ~baden~
One thing that I cant find an answer to is that since the car been driving on EV mode. Then I want the boost of power from the engine and rev it all the way up before changing gear. Wouldnt that harm the engine? since the engine is cold?
potentially. that applies to any cold engine.
That a huge leap of faith they are asking customers to take. Given their track record - NO THX!
Of the 2.5 videos I've seen of this launch, Henry is the only one to mention issues with the press fleet.
On the road, given the low weight, do you think the car would be any less fun with say only 300hp or maybe even 200hp? Aside from acceleration which would still be fine.
Do these come with fire extinguishers?
The Artura looks great. However, hopefully it's more engaging than competitors since most will be more powerful.
I like the styling and I would take the McLaren. But they would have to improve customer support. So with that in mind I will change my mind and go 296.
Seems like every journalist got a different example of the car, I like it - more versatility
and almost every car displayed some kind of fault. one caught on fire
interesting bit of trivia
I like watching Carfection videos and I am subscriber of the channel. However, of late I am seeing 4 or even 5 advertisements for any video. That is a little too much. It is unfortunate that such a fantastic channel has resorted to adding a ton of advertisements instead of having one at the beginning.
One of the things I like about the McClaren is it looks really nice, but it is not such an event as the 296 is to just go to the grocery store with everybody looking at you. I had a Ferrari once before and that gets real old.
why not go smaller displacement v8 and hybrid systems?
I don't really care about the review, just the first seconds of the intro with asphalt heat - brilliant!
E-mode makes a racket!
Very diplomatic Henry! When is McLaren going to get it right? They are all versions of the same old “Russian doll” sadly. Getting very boring!
Who notices the electric voice that resembles ozzy?❤ whats the song?
McLaren do have their own 'look' but some variation in the design language would be good, especially as this is a hybrid. Not really sure why they'd let journalists loose on a car that hadn't been properly tested
I was thinking how cool, this would be. If this had a 6 speed manual.
I hate to say this, but McLaren's very rarely do it for me. I understand they are remarkably capable, but I can't think of a single model I would pick over equivalent offerings from other manufacturers.