Driving My Ioniq 5 Till It No Longer Moves!
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- This question has been asked many times and I decided it was finally time to investigate. In this video I drive my Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL AWD till it won't move another inch. Not going to lie, this was pretty stressful but I hope that now having a rough estimate of how far past 0 we could potentially go will help with range anxiety.
Have any of you had close calls with making it to charging stations? Let me know in the comment section.
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0:00 Intro
1:56 Let the test begin
10:15 Wrap-Up - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Love the dramatic music at the end…good stuff. Thx for the demo
You put yourself through the pain of a social experiment for us viewers. Thank you.
You're my hero! I just bought a '23 Limited and have been sucking up all the info videos. Yours is the only one I've seen so far that's truly useful. I always ask the sales people what happens when you get low in battery power and none have an answer. Now I do, thanks to you.
Your timing on this was pretty ironic. My family took a road trip yesterday and I saw your original video just before we headed out. We ended up in a situation where the battery did drop below 0%, and because you mentioned it would go beyond that, I was a bit more confident it would keep going, but was worried about how far I would get. We reached 0% at 12 miles remaining and we were traveling at 67 - 70 mph. Not sure if we just managed to use some of that momentum to get to where we were going, but we did manage to get to the next Electrify America charger. I'm in the awd limited, so not sure if that difference means anything here. And we were also driving on a pretty hilly road both up and down. But we did manage to get there. 😨
Missed opportunity: "Your timing on this was pretty IONIQ" 😁
Why were you driving that fast with such low range??? It is really not good for your battery to get that low
@mjsabie8517
Road trip, unfortunately at the time (not now), there weren't any charging stations on this particular stretch of freeway. They fixed that problem though, now we get there without this issue.
Look at this guy doing what non of us would for the benefit of us all! Putting yourself into that type of anxiety inducing situation so the rest of us could learn from it was a brave move! Thank you for making this video!
Now just wait for all the battery nerds to push up their glasses and say in a high pitch nasal voice "omg that's so bad for your battery I would never omg do you know that's going to damage your battery omg never let it go below 20% omg do you know, omg I am so offended"
Lol great test and thank you for your sacrifice.
That's quite the experiment! I'd have been afraid that power steering or braking would have been lost too.
This video was super helpful. I purchased my IONIQ 5 on 12/26. I drove 163 miles to my friends house and made it without an issue. The return trip was a nightmare. The battery drained pretty quickly and I was 7 miles from a charging station, on a very busy interstate. 4 hours later...I had to call my own tow service. BlueLink is reimbursing me, thankfully. I will feel more comfortable on this next trip. Great videos!
The first time I took a long trip on my EV6, I was down to 2% when I pulled into my driveway. Thanks for taking one for the team. As there aren't any EA stations nearby, I have not yet charged my car anywhere but at home.
Yeah, this was awesome of you to do - others have been talking about the “buffer” past 0, but no one else has been brave enough to actually do it, and get that info out there for those of us looking at buying one of these. Thanks!
Thank you for doing this experiment for us. Highly appreciated!
If you are ever in a similar situation I suggest driving at speeds around 30mph for best range. It does make a huge difference if you try to push it over 60 or if you accept that you are in a bad situation and lower your speed (with hazards on). It can give you 50% more range.
And absolutely do not expect to have those 10 miles next time you try it. Battery is constantly being recallibrated and 1% difference over the total capacity can make half of that buffer go away. Same with temperature - below freezing you may not even reach 0 miles left...
Very good points. In sub freezing temps, I would not count on going very little if at all past 0 miles remaining.
@@TheIoniqGuy Just to let you know past January in minus -25c I got in this situation (I was expecting to reach home after long travel at estimate near 2-3%) But the Ioniq 5 gest-o-meter was saying I would be able but finally reached home but at below 0% at turtle power. Just to let know I don't know how far can reach in very cold weather, but I got able to run at 0% at minus 25C maybe 2-3 km then reach home.
Yep. It was cold, it was up hill, I was way too many miles from the EA charger. I dropped my speed to 55 and the I5 was ever so helpful flashing "charge up now!". Ya. Good advice. I rolled in with about 8 miles of range left. But if I kept going at 75 there's no way I would have had a chance.
I just got back from a 6 week road trip. Because the Ioniq 5 charges so fast at the top of the pack and because of the spacing of the EA chargers, I rarely ever got below 10%. I found that even charging to 90% the spacing of the EA chargers were too far to skip many of them. I was typically charging from 25%-80%. the good news is that it only takes about 10-15 minutes and a 500 mile day takes three or four 15 minute charging sessions. Also at 85 mph in 95 degree heat, my efficiency was low around 2.4 miles per kWH. Lastly, you can almost always count on a head wind.
This was so dramatic, I was at the edge of my seat seeing if you would make it home, amazing video
Brave man... I'd have just thrown my 2200w gas generator in the trunk so I could do my own Level1 charging when I ran it out, and i'd have set out knowing i'm purposely going to get stuck and have to level1 charge to get home. Then it would be fun instead of stressful. Very glad to know we got 8 more miles. Thank you sir!!
Thank you so much for your service. You did this so none of us don’t have to.
Sorry you didn't quite make it home but it sure made for a great story and great video, thanks for testing it out and sharing! Definitely helps with my range anxiety :)
Indeed thank you for doing this experiment for us all, even if it wasn't good for the battery to drain it like that!
Dude thanks for taking one for the team !!! :)
Thanks! Any range anxiety I may have had is all gone now.
You took one for the team. Wow! Good thing you have kind neighbors. Hope that was a nice 3 hours you spent waiting for your car to charge.
Thanks for "doing this is all for you". Such selflessness is very 2022.
Great to know this, thanks for putting this up. Don't go past 10 miles reminds of the beginning scene in Top Gun Maverick so that is easy to remember lol
Omg I am so anxious even though it worked out! You are truly courageous. And maybe good crazy?
Doing gods work. Thank you Iconic guy!
hey I had this happened to me. Can confirm 10-11 mi in reserve battery. Kyle Connor from out of spec said to me don’t go past zero you may not get that same reserve miles after traveling from CT->ND. keep up the videos.
That was a good cliffhanger! I thought you were going to make it, iGuy! Thanks for falling on the sword for us.
I thought I was too haha. If I didn't take that last turn I would have made it home
That was bold of you to show us the cushion, wonder how far you can get on eco mode😋. Thanks for making these as always
That´s more a spaceship than a car, we got our last week it's just amazing
What exactly did you get (trim/color/drivetrain)?
@@TheIoniqGuy we got an Ionic 5 77 kW battery pack, rear track and light blue color
My car is also COVERED in pollen! I was hoping you had a magic fix for that too. Thanks for all the great videos.
You should probably talk to Hyundai about how much effort you've put towards selling a car that seems to be impossible to aquire right now. Your vids sold me yet I can't seem to establish a solid purchase for the last month
Inventory is certainly lacking and last month sales actually decreased from the prior month. I think June is going to be a fairly good month as the allocation seems to be getting larger but maybe I'm just wishful thinking. Keep hunting and lady luck might just turn your way
wow most intresting and helpful, thanks very much man good work buddy !!!!
Very useful, although an ICE vehicle would do the same if you ran the tank totally empty. And if you did drain it so completely there's a chance that just adding a jerry can of fuel might not work unless you have an electric fuel pump. The moral of the story is to just charge when it tells you to do so, but knowing that in a real emergency you have 10 miles up your sleeve to get to a power source. All things considered, I think that's pretty generous, and for most of that the car seemed quite driveable. I wonder if you'd have got further without the a/c running and in ECO mode?
I unwittingly found out what happens with a 2018 Ioniq Electric at its limit of range. I thought I could make it home with 5 or 6 miles of range left, but it suddenly switched to turtle mode, which appears to have a limit of 11 mph! It suddenly slowed to 11mph. Fortunately there was no traffic behind me when that happened, and I was only a few hundred yards from home. I reached home at that slow speed still showing 5 miles of range. It sounds like the Ioniq 5 is much better behaved, allowing normal driving all the way down to zero range.
Sincerely appreciate your commitment
very brave 🙂!!! you helped a lot of ioniq 5 owners !! thanks a lot you did that
In Norway 2021 the car was tested and drove over 30 miles below 0. I want do do a similar test as you, just bringing with me a strong generator.
Or a friend with a roadside service van. So you spend minimal time at 0.
Thanks for doing this. I've owned my Ionic 5 for a week and it's nice knowing that we have a buffer.
Wow brother, you really took one for the team!!! Glad you made it back safely. Also, congrats on how fast your channel is growing. And keep up the informative ioniq videos, it really helps us out.
Thanks man, it’s was definitely stressful in the moment but if it helps everyone else feel a little less stressed than it was worth it
Oh no... a Jeep. Talk about the walk of shame. Well... thanks for doing this for all of us. Much appreciated.
They didn’t have many good things to say about EVs during the interaction lol
You should make a video on fast charging sessions and over heating the battery where it goes into a sort of safe mode. It happened to me on my last trip. When you floor the car after about 6 hours of driving with 3 fast DC charging sessions, it will limit power to what felt about half for I'd say about 15-30 minutes after the last charge. After that it was full power available again. I'd like to see someone make a video about this.
Bjorn Nyland aka Tesla Bjorn did this on an IONIQ 5 in Norway - results were not good.
@@ScubaSteveCanada I forgot to mention that I was using the AC during the charging sessions and never turned the car off.
I also experienced this on a recent road trip. I noticed the battery pack cooling fans were active for 15 or so minutes.
Great work!
Thank you for the research!
thanks for helping us all learn what not to do
In January in Sweden 2022 there was a bit of a snow storm and cold spell in the south of the country, 70 BEVs had to be evacuated as they ran out of heating and power as the temperature was -15c and all cars had to be towed..
Sounds like a massive tabloid FUD story. What was it a convention of first generation Nissan Leafs?
I would never push to 0 on a road trip, as you may miss the exit and the next one could be 20 miles. There's also the chance that the DCFC is down, and you would need an extra 15 miles to reach a J1772
Thanks for the Nice video , wicht give a lot of help for the future, thanks Again from Holland ( The Netherlands)
I commend your bravery.
That's really good to know thank you for this video this will make my transition to electric car all more simple now thank you
I've been somewhere at a charging station to charge my ioniq 5 AWD. Just when starting the session the charging station went down (power failure) so i had to go to another place for charging. Luckily I had adjusted my speed enough to have a little left in the battery.
Reaching the next charging station got me with about 3% left in my battery (normally 4 km / %...12 km to go).
When I add your reserve to it I had maybe 27 km to go....
ok great to know. I have a 2020 Kia Soul EV Limied (64KWH) and I have a tow strap, for emergency tow-regen, likely all you need is to tow the Ionic 5 for 10 miles with the Regen set at 2 or more, and you should be able to recover 10-15 miles of range. May be a good thing to test as that is what no ICE car has the ability to do self juice by assisted towing!!!
I even wonder too.
Idk, it says percentage lower than how long you absolutely can actually drive, for a reason, so you can get charger wherever far or whew near would be. No more fear suddenly stop in middle of the road, I guess..
But hey, now we know the car doesn't brick yey!
WOW..... thanks for pushing the limits....
Thank you sir. Great video
So he conducted this test without a back up plan, and just trusted strangers to help him charge? That's crazy
The backup plan was to get towed. We have 3 years of free roadside assistance from Hyundai
Thank you for your sacrifice!
Great stuff - however it appeared that your climate was on was it? Thanks
Great video again. And great idea so we don't have to get in this situation lol. Look forward to the next one!
nice video... great one... you look like Rio Ferdinand ...former defender of MU 😊
I have a question, my awd ultimate says it will only do 200 miles to a full charge. My question really is what regeneration mode should you be in for everyday driving around the rural roads at 50mph and what setting for highway?
Ecoflow Delta Pro supposedly can add a few miles. Might need the "fake ground" adapter.
Great video
If you're VA bound this summer there is an EA high speed charging station in Abingdon MD on Tollgate Rd just off rt 95. I started from Bergen county NJ Rockland County NY border and had plenty of charge left when I got to Abingdon. 192 mi from home. (Don't know how far you are in CT from my starting point) The exact address is 401 Constant Friendship Blvd Abingdon MD in a Walmart parking lot.
Thank you !! I need that info.
Two things I would like to know: 1.) when your car died completely, could you put it in neutral and push it a few feet to get it out of traffic? 2.) if you had just let the car sit for 15 or 30 minutes, would it then move under its own power? Many times, battery-operated appliances will regenerate a little bit of charge on their own, to work for a minute or so.
I can only answer question 1 and the answer is yes, you can easily shift into neutral to move it but power steering was strangely deactivated requiring a lot of force to turn.
I'm wondering if you had an OBD adapter plugged in, if that would have given a different reading than what you were getting on your dash. I think you should do it again lol. But thanks for doing this. You looked pretty stressed out
This was such an unplanned video but in retrospect, I really wish I plugged it in since the BMS state of charge is different from the displayed state of charge.
Hi!
Do you know how fast the ionic 5 can charge on a 400V DC charger?
Thanks for doing the Lord’s work 😅
Idk about car batteries, but on other Li batteries using the reserve severely hurts the charge capacity. Anyone know if this is the same for EVs?
Yes, but there is a already a buffer in the BMS. So even when the car shuts down, the battery is not completely drained, but you cannot use anymore of the remaining power. Both to protect the battery and because the voltage drops and you get less power.
The car already starts to warn at 20% and 10%. But I guess this is mostly to prevent people from getting stranded and Hyundai having to arrange tow trucks all the time (or getting a bad rep). Power is still plenty at 10%.
However, Hyundai also recommends you drive the battery down to less than 20% and then AC charge it to 100% at least once per month (for calibration purposes), so I guess the old advice of using the battery only between 20-80% doesn't hold for this car.
Oh you're from Connecticut? I've seen 5 Ioniqs around, but idk if any of them were you
does fully discharging the battery damage the battery itself?
Yes. Deep discharge and sitting at 100% are both not good for battery longevity. Best to operate in the upper middle range, 40% to 80%, to cover local driving and only go to 100% occasionally such as just before a long trip to allow for cell balancing and recalibration of the battery gauge and to only deeply discharge when you need it on a long trip. IE use the full range when you need it but, most of the time, when you don't need the full range, live in the upper-middle range.
Are there any innovations about what happens if power goes out in a city during a hurricane or snow storm?
Thanks for doing. I live near Glastonbury, CT and have Limited AWD. If i know you then i would have helped you with V2L Charging from Ioniq 5. Hope your insurance covered your tow bill.
I think i met you once in Manchester Walmart at EA Charging Station.
I charged at the house where I died just long enough to get 2 miles back home. We've got free Hyundai roadside assistance with the car. I don't think that was me. I've yet to see a limited there.
I just washed my Model 3 on Saturday and pollen and dust already have me wanting to wash it again.
Is your model AWD or RWD? I'm experimenting with Auto regen but the temps warmed up significantly and can't correlate the increase in range to using Auto regen (more likely the warmer temps). It seems like, although there is a battery buffer, it isn't large. Cheers, Steve
Mine is AWD
Good video. Showed me that EV behave completely different from gas cars. A backup battery should be design like a buffer that provides you 15-20Km. I guess at this point this option would be quite expensive.
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
@@TheIoniqGuy I learned a lot from your videos, anxiously waiting for ours to come. 2 more weeks 😁
Awesome! What'd you get?
@@TheIoniqGuy a SEL awd. Wanted a limited, but those are hard to come by.
Never, EVER floor your EV below 5% SOC. Doing so puts immense stress on your battery and may even result in immediate power loss. A battery is not a petrol tank. As the battery gets emptier, it gets harder for the electricity to get out of the battery, so to speak. In adition to that, the SOC is a function ot voltage, meaning the voltage of the battery decreases as the SOC decreases. A lower voltage means a higher current is required to acheive the same power. That in turn means the car uses up the battery quicker, the emptier the battery gets. Now combined with the before mentioned fact that the electricity has a harder time getting out of the battery as it gets empty, a sudden increase in power output (flooring it) results in an equal increase in current drawn from the battery. As the empty battery has difficulties to meet this demand, it results in a further sharp drop in voltage, directly resulting in an even sharper increase in current drawn etc, eventually spiraling the battery into immediate power loss. Modern batteries can deal with surprisingly high continuous power output at low SOC incredibly well. So you can drive at a safe speed, even with an almost completely empty battery. However, they are still batteties. Once you go below 5%, reduce your speed to the lowest safe speed, use momentum and treat your accelerator very, very gently. Not only will this increas your remaining range, it will also improve overall battery life. In any case, you should try to avoid going below 10% or above 90% SOC for best driving experience and longes battery life.
What 110volt charger do you have?
coasting will take you further that trying to regen.
I think that's the degradation buffer that will slowly be getting lower over time. I wouldn't bank on 10mi after 20K mi traveled.
Just got ionic 5 ran battery down to 5% was scared 😱 to go any further didn't want to end up on side of road. I pulled in to truck stop and they allowed me to charge on regular outlet took forever
Were you close to a DC fast charger or your final destination?
Thanks for the great video. It was very informative both about the range and roadside assistance.
I have another video suggestion. At the beginning of your video, I noticed that you have an average of 3.9 kw/hr efficiency. Can you do a video about reasonable strategies for better efficiency? I live a couple of hours north of you, in the Berkshires. My wife drives the car every day about 30m RT to work. She is getting 3.2. It is about the same when I am driving it. What are folks getting as their average? Am I in the mean or below? Thanks
We are getting 4.5 miles per kWh. That is in town driving at mostly 30mph- max speed 50 mph. So just slow down if you want to get more range. We drive in Eco mode, level 3 regen, SEL AWD Best trip for me so far was 6.0 miles per kWh. That was all at 25-30 mph
@@roger6246 thanks, Roger. We have a Limited and drive in normal, back roads at 40-50 mph. I'll make sure to slow down!
Should this test be redone after the latest VCU update?
Are you volunteering? 🤣
How do you get it into neutral, especially if the car is dead?
I think the 12V aux battery takes care of this.
Remember that you would have made it home if you had not tested the acceleration like you did early on in the video. You need to be in grandpa mode to truly test how far it’ll go!
(Almost) fun to watch you deal with a dead EV less than 24 hours after I had to get my ‘18 Soul EV towed for an empty battery… Yep, it happens to the best of us.
how bad will it affect the battery by doing this few times in its life cycle?
I don't think we will know the answer to that for many years as these cars are too new
@@TheIoniqGuy Without knowing the exact battery voltage it is hard to say- but as an EE I always put a cut off voltage on Li-ion battery packs so that they are NOT discharged beyond a certain point. So to use a single Li-ion for an example, the cell voltage is 3.7V nominal- I never charge it beyond 4.1V, and turn off the load when it reaches 3.1V. I have instruments that have worked for ten years or more in the field and they are often discharged so that to the user they seem "dead". In fact there is a low battery warning and then a message- battery low- system turning off. So what you did was go beyond the warning level- but with reasonable control software users are not allowed to go so low that it would cause permanent damage. And when the battery is low trickle charging is the best way to recharge so your 1.3kW 120V charger was the right way to start. I personally never plan to go below 10% SOC but thanks for doing this test.
Never did mention what the total range of vehicles was
Would you guys still buy a ev knowing the stress you can get your self into.
Push my Peugeot to about 5 miles and don't even get a low battery warning so must have 15miles to zero
Odd the regen wasn't effective.
Which model is this?
SEL AWD
How did you go into this with the intention to completely kill it, with zero backup plan?😂
so how many miles did it go?
10.8 but the last mile or so was mostly coasting downhill.
I mean, how many miles did you get before zero ?
I'm not sure I didn't check. I'm getting around 230 miles per 80%charge these days
Why not ask a friend with a big car to come with you and tow you?
I don't know how much farther it will go than zero miles, but I'm not going to risk damaging my batteries to find out.
Good thing you don't have to, he did it for you!
@@thespegs Yes! And I appreciate it!
All the other TH-camrs doing the test used the press vehicles, not their own.
Nice Try. Thank you. And for the rest of the world, 10.8mi equals to 17,38km range from 0 to stop.
Nice to know but winter range will be less with reduced battery capacity in cold and sub freezing weather
For sure. I wouldn't try to go anywhere past 0 in a winter scenario
let me guess before watching. it is 22 kilometers or 13.67 miles. 🙂 (yes i tried to calculate it)
nice my guess was pretty close. i guess the car leaves like 1kwh in the battery even when you drive it as far as it can go. maybe it does that to make sure the bms is running or something? or maybe you used different ioniq 5 than i thought so my calculations was off? Not sure.
Buy something for the folks at the house that helped you (this is late so I shall presume you already did).
I gave them a nice tip for their time and energy
I hope you made sure to let everyone that helped you once it died that you did this on purpose because if not they could have a bad impression about EVs.
Absolutely, the homeowner was interested in doing an EV conversion on an old Ford truck. I told him about ford's electric crate motor.
So, do you feel that it's worth it to permanently damage your traction battery just so you can post a video? Just wondering.
The battery has a warranty. The engineers at Hyundai are not going to allow the most expensive component of the car be damaged by driving it into a point of no return. People are curious and this is going to inevitably happen to people so yes, I’m willing to accept that level of risk for other peoples benefit.
@@TheIoniqGuy Let's hope the warranty people don't see your video :}
"It was the other Ioniq Guy, I swear!"
Get off your high horse John D. This guy inconvenienced himself and risked his safety in order to show the rest of us what our cars are capable of. Have some gratitude.
Next time ... film the whole ordeal ... more views LOL. was it able to charge back up to 100 overnight on your home level 2 charger?