Karpov vs Tal: a Rare Clash of World Champions!

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  • @GMIgorSmirnov
    @GMIgorSmirnov  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Karpov's style of play is extremely educational for virtually any chess player. Study the complete chess course "Karpov’s Positional Style Revealed" - bit.ly/2JrDNI9

    • @preru-dy1ii
      @preru-dy1ii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice video sir please post 1.b3 part 3 and 1.e4-b6 part 3
      And please discuss what if opposite side fianchettoed his bishop in front of castled King.

  • @unknown-gy8jz
    @unknown-gy8jz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    3:42 - 3:52 MOMENT OF SILENCE
    I thought my phone broke 😂

  • @ajarnray4115
    @ajarnray4115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great to see another video with Igor himself instead of other masters. You explain everything always so clear Thank you so much.

  • @gtrmusic69
    @gtrmusic69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm talian, it's pronounced Fianketto with a K'.
    So many people automatically make TS sounds out of CH Italian words. That's wrong in many cases.
    CH is not an automatic TS sound. It very often is a K sound.

  • @yingkongshi9558
    @yingkongshi9558 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Igor Smirnov sir. 🙏🙏

  • @shankarshete6605
    @shankarshete6605 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice analysis....👌👌👌

  • @onionbud
    @onionbud ปีที่แล้ว

    Which year ,tournament , round etc . Explainations r appreciated.

  • @Kyrieenjoyer
    @Kyrieenjoyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m an karpovian

  • @sternorauli4811
    @sternorauli4811 ปีที่แล้ว

    interesting game. Can you tell me how many games they played and what the score is?

  • @preru-dy1ii
    @preru-dy1ii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video sir please post 1.b3 part 3 and 1.e4-b6 part 3
    And please discuss what if opposite side fianchettoed his bishop in front of castled King.

    • @Garg_Sahil111
      @Garg_Sahil111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes , I also want that 👍

  • @victoreric4557
    @victoreric4557 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Karpov Plays White(positional) Vs Tal Black (all attack)

  • @richardrose6122
    @richardrose6122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apparently you are unawarw that Tal was REUIRED/FORCED to throw this game by the Soviet chess authorities. To the best of my knowledge all other legitimate games, not blitz, between these two players were drawn.

    • @richardrose6122
      @richardrose6122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Oissev Onos Regardless, Tal was forced to throw the game. It was not alegitimate win by Karpov.

    • @richardrose6122
      @richardrose6122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Oissev OnosTimman's Titans provides the details. Very soon after becoming world champion the Soviet chess authorities decreed that no Soviet player was allowed to defeat Karpov in a game or finish first in any international tournament in which Karpov was competing. They would also be required to throw games to him to make sure no other non-Soviet player won the tournament. In this particular case that would be Bent Larsen. Therefore all Karpov victories over Soviet players in international tournaments during this time period are suspect.
      In regards to Karpov's style I completely agree that his style is very instructional. Edmar Mednis' book "How Karpov Wins" took me from USCF 1500 to USCF 2000+ during the 1980's

    • @mazymetric8267
      @mazymetric8267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@richardrose6122 Soviets didn't have any fear of losing to Non-Soviet players after Fischer. By far the best Non-Soviet player was Larsen and his record against Soviet players is not that impressive.
      Petrosian beat Larsen 9 to 4.
      Spassky beat Larsen 19 to 6.
      Korchnoi beat Larsen 6 to 4.
      Tal beat Larsen 12 to 7.
      Karpov beat Larsen 7 to 2.
      Paul Keres beat Larsen 2 to 0.
      Beliavsky beat Bent Larsen 2 to 0.
      It's hard to find Soviet players that Larsen has a postive record against. Maybe the Russians did cheat but saying that other Soviet players weren't allowed to beat Karpov is a bit of a stretch. If it's true then why was Korchnoi allowed to become such a head ache for Karpov during their bouts? Why was Kaspoarov allowed to beat Karpov? I have re read the Timman's chapter on Karpov and he didn't say anything about players losing games to Karpov on purpose or Tal throwing this game. This is what he wrote about Karpov:
      "In 1975, Karpov became World Champion without a fight. In a certain sense, this was a tragedy for
      him. He would have had good chances to beat Fischer, but now people saw him as a World Champion
      with a blemish. Karpov worked hard to change this negative image. Like no World Champion before
      him, he proceeded to play in many tournaments. As a consequence, I was able to cross swords with
      him many times, and in many different cities: Skopje, Amsterdam, Bad Lauterberg, Las Palmas, and
      many other cities later on."

    • @richardrose6122
      @richardrose6122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mazymetric8267 Larsen's personal record against top Soviet players is irrelevant. He was threatening to win this tournament and therefore must be stopped. The Soviets for propaganda purposes wanted Karpov to win every international tournament he played in. By decree they neutralized all the Soviet players and when occasionally a non-Soviet was having the tournament of their life, he was targeted by all Soviet players. If this proved insufficient, then Soviet players would be required to throw games to Karpov.
      I take my chess history seriously and have lived through all of Karpov's reign and then some. From your comment about Korchnoi I would guess you are considerably younger and not as well read. I am talking about innumerable books, interviews, game commentary, magazine articles since the 1970's to today, not just Timman's book.
      Why was Korchnoi "allowed" to be such a headache? Newsflash!! In 1976 Korchnoi, the number two player in the world in Fischer's absence and behind Karpov, caused a scandal by defecting from the Soviet Union eventually playing for Switzerland. The only way the Soviet Union could now control him was to assassinate him. A fate/fear that Tal voiced if Korchnoi had won the 1978 World Championship against Karpov. The Soviets did arrange an illegal, by FIDE rules, boycott of Korchnoi which Korchnoi ended in 1984. As this reply is already too long and is going to get longer, I will leave it to you to look this up if you are interested.
      Worried that Boris Spassky, who was out of favor because of that match in1972, might also defect, the Soviet authorities allowed Spassky to live in France with his French wife while still representing the Soviet Union in chess competitions. I don't know this for fact, but outside diplomats and other government officials, I think Boris Spassky was the only Soviet citizen allowed to live outside the country. This situation lasted until 1982 when Spassky committed the unpardonable sin of winning a tournament ahead of Karpov.
      This resulted in his being excommunicated from the Soviet Union: He was no longer a Soviet citizen.
      Gary Kasparov had a huge battle both on and off the chess board in his fight to become World Chess Champion. Karpov was the man, the institution backed by all of the Soviet chess authorities. Therefore higher authorities in the Soviet government had to be brought into play by both sides. It turns out that Kasparov's man, Heydar Aliev, was much further up the ladder of authority than Karpov's man. The joke at the time was that Karpov's "man" could have Kasparov disqualified and that Kasparov's "man" could have Karpov shot. All of this just to make sure some of the relevant matches were actually played
      All of this is just the very tiniest tip of the iceberg of Soviet Chess. Karpov was/is a tremendous chess player. He is considered with Anand the 3rd/4th best player of all time behind Kasparov and Fischer. Unfortunately all of his considerable supporters and privileges during his reign and a bit after make him far and away the most corrupt.

    • @mazymetric8267
      @mazymetric8267 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardrose6122 Spassky never won a tournament ahead of Karpov. These are the tournaments that Spassky participated in 1982.
      Germany (Bundesliga), 1982
      Lugano op, 1982
      London (Phillips & Drew), 1982
      Bugojno, 1982
      Turin, 1982
      Toluca (Interzonal), 1982
      Hamburg TV-1pl, 1982
      Hamburg, 1982
      He only won Hamburg TV-1pl, 1982
      and Karpov wasn't even participating in it.
      All of what you said is pure speculation. Propaganda of the West against the Soviets. I bet during those days, if you go to Soviet Union, you would hear all kind of nasty things about the West and America. There definitely was corruption but to this extent? I don't buy it.
      "I am talking about innumerable books, interviews, game commentary, magazine articles since the 1970's to today, not just Timman's book."
      First of all, Your Timman's Titans claim was simply not true. Secondly, I would like to know some of the names of those books, interviews, game commentary and magazine articles.

  • @dannybarcenas9701
    @dannybarcenas9701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    AK my Chess Idol

  • @keirgaspan2260
    @keirgaspan2260 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is ur username in lichess?

  • @hoggar1452
    @hoggar1452 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Karpov the GOAT

  • @amorpurganan5025
    @amorpurganan5025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    idol

  • @mjna1386
    @mjna1386 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer Karpov

  • @forevercu
    @forevercu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tal played poorly