Can the 7980XE hit 5GHZ without LN2?
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Guys..... just because you didn't see me put on the thermal paste doesn't mean it wasn't there.... clearly there are parts that are edited out for time reason. The paste was pre-spread and not a dot method. Why do I even have to post this? Thought we were collectively smarter than this...
Am I mistaken or did this channel always post videos at 1080p? I thought it was like 4k or is that certain videos? Did you need to lower render times and overall editing times since you have to account for heading home?
You can't accuse TH-cam comments as collectively smart Jay. You've been doing this long enough to know better.
Jay, don't be modest, you've just hit 4.9GHz even without thermal paste, that's a world record!!! :D
How did you make it through that sentence without laughing? A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.- Agent K, Men in Black (1997)
Every day it's more prevalent than the last how true it is.
You have far too much faith in the intelligence of strangers. You would have REALLY won the lottery if somehow you could hit 5.1ghz with no paste and no fireballs.
Love the addition of the fire extinguisher as the OC gets spicy.
Rofl, didn't even notice that. You mentioned it and I had to recheck. Well spotted.
Can you blame him? I remember some motherboard OEM actually recommended you buy the highest end boards if you are going to be overclocking the 16/18 CPUs because of the power delivery. I mean, trying this on a mid-range X299 may end up with a fire or at least a fried power delivery. That said, performance is very impressive once you get it to 4.5.
Oli Harding c
I really hope that's not a chemical powder extinguisher..
Most of the powder ones are highly corrosive and hygroscopic. Using one can potentially ruin a large part of the electronics in the room (that powder gets everywhere). Use a CO2 one instead.
You know what else is highly corrosive, ruins electronics and gets everywhere? Fire.
AMD Radeon R9 295X2 crossfire (or 4 way VEGA 64) + 7980XE is what I wanna fucking see, DO IT JAY, DO IT DO IT.. NOW PLEASE, I WANT A SYSTEM THAT CAN MAX 1600 WATTS
Just like with Nvidia, you can still use 4 way cards for benchmarks, being in the HWBot community I regularly see 4 way scores, you wouldn't use the 7980XE for games anyways.
very light minecraft gaming
There are dual socket LGA 2066 boards, none of the Xeons will do 4.5GHz though, not that you couldn't edit microcode given enough fucks.
4 way GTX 480's with that fucking thing will probably be able to forge dragonglass holy shit
Liam Najor Be on the lookout for a 4000 watt power supply .
It hit 105 in a test that lasts under 1 min. If that ran for an hour or 2 (ie minimium water stability test) even at 4.5ghz it would thermal throttle. It would be interesting to see it boil the water in the loop though :)
he's using a rad designed for 4 core chips, this thing is 4x what the rad can handle. maybe if he loop it to 3 more rads the temps will be in the 50c-60c range
rurutu M This isnt fully the rads fault though. Im willing to bet the water was pretty cool when the cpu was at 105, a waterblock simply cant transfer that much power to the water without being larger (or having a massive temperature differential like this did) especially when most of the heat cant even get to the ihs due to the amazing tim intel likes using
It will happily run at 5ghz with a delid
Did you Use oreo 🍪 filling?!
The rad JAY uses has 34 fpi and couldn't keep my 5960x cool either because air just Doesnt get through. I intentionally didnt mention this in my vids because i didnt want to diss EK.
Thankfully I've got a handy dandy miniature nuclear power plant
JDTechGear one day, my friend :)
Pair it with a Vega and you got the perfect power hungry system.
You would legit need a evga 1600W psu
Jagsfanrick you mean a waterheater for bathing!
da! Comrade
Remember when everyone was talking smack about the fx 9590 because it's 220watt TDP when overclocked. How the tables have turned lol. Also Ryzen is a mainstream 6C/12T part. People have options now remember?
R7-1700 draws 250 watts just like a 6900K/7900X when R7 is OC'd to 3.9 GHz, much to the dismay of dumbass buffoons who think they draw only 65 watts at all times! :)
mdd1963 no one said they ran at 65 watts you shill
mdd1963 3.9GHz is a pretty hefty overclock. Especially for Ryzen chips. You're pushing 8 cores and 16 threads to a frequency that is not guaranteed to be stable and you would need to up the voltage.
Ryzen non-OC is a pretty efficient architecture. But once you up the voltage and increase the frequency, don't expect efficiency to be the same. Same for Intel chips. :)
Absolutely agree; although as soon as you even *point out* the fact that R7-1700 OC'd to 3.9 GHz draws about the same power as a 6900K, folks get ...mad
Ethiqal- There are indeed a mass array of buffoons who constantly tout the '65 watt TDP', ignoring the fact that they draw 275 watts under load (about the same as a 7900K, for that matter) If you are not one of the buffoons that claimed it, my apologies, and you don't need to respond..dickweed
Wow, being on a budget, my electric company would think I'm growing pot. 😂😂😂😂😂 Good video though.
electric dryer, stove, microwave, fridge still use way more power than this thing. even at 100% this is still sub 1000w
MattyBespoke I can assure you the power company wouldn't even notice this system.
I've actually blown a few fuses and surge bars because I've had a few systems pull more watts than my wiring from the 70's could handle lol
Depending on your operation i don't see how a couple T5HO bulbs could draw that much power from the grid compared to everything else in your house. Just switch all your light bulbs out for LED or Fluorescent to give you some leeway for the PC if that's a big concern for you. Or just buy LED grow lights for your weed, they aren't cheap but neither is prison. 😄
There are a lot of things that need more power in your house. For example a hair dryer or a cloth dryer ( around 5000 Watt)
That's a pretty crazy overclock, I wonder what most other chips would be able to get on average?
"jim, i discovered one example of cherry picked cpu's on accident. i went to silicon lottery and was looking at their site. i clicked on 7980xe and was looking at them. according to silicon lottery, only 4% of those cpu's were able to reach 4.5 ghz oc. 28% 4.4, 57% 4.3, 83% 4.2 ghz.
what i found, is that all of these youtube reviewers, who were all hitting 4.4 to 4.5 all obviously had to have selected cpu's. because if the rarity in silicon lottery is 4% hitting 4.5, that means jays2cents, hitting 4.8 i think he got, would literally be close to probably 1% of the cpu sample ever reaching that high. meaning that he literally got a golden cpu.
if the average cpu, that a person buys, only reaches lets say 4.2, that would bring the 7980xe far closer to threadripper performance and thus would show it being that much of a "greater" cpu. the average person i have run across on the internet, firmly believes those 7980xe are all capable of 4.5 and think if they buy one, they too would easily hit that. which, according to silicon lottery, is literally not the case at all. which calls into question, yet again, intel is literally conning people."
a comment on AdoredTV's "ConLake Returns - Golden Sample 8700K's."
your binning statistics are wrong but it does not diminish from the point you're making.
i bought a 7940x for dirt cheap and i definitely did make the mistake of thinking i would be able to get much higher clocks out of this cpu. this thing is not capable of doing 4.5ghz all core and is barely stable at 4.4ghz - its the exact opposite of a golden sample. but you can control the voltage and clock speed of each core independently, so you can turn down low quality cores if they are creating too much heat. if you determine which cores are capable of going higher, and you can get an interesting compromise between single thread performance on your good cores and a crapload of low powered cores
i've been running 6 cores at 4.6ghz and 8 cores at 3.8ghz and is entirely manageable with air cooling, and cinebench only pulls about 280w. the 4.4ghz all core overclock pulled 420w on cinebench. the crazy thing is that i can push it further. but remember - its the exact same die as the 7980XE binned to have less cores. that means that any chips that made it to being a 7980XE are probably much higher quality silicon than a 7940x
@@Cheesemonk3h My worst skylake-x bin so far was a 7820x that only does 4.8 at 1.27v or so, my 7900x does 4.9at 1.32v. I have a hard time believing some of these chips can only do 4.4-4.5, I'm more inclined to believe that theyre just not being used with a proper cooling setup and/or voltages are too low.
750 watts, I bet that PSU was at capacity. When you start stressing power supplies of any sort, you're going to get "dirty power," clipping, fluctuations including dips and spikes, ETC.
yep. causing ripple for starters. never a good thing.
I'd personally not be comfy running an 850 watt PSU at 750 watt peaks, regardless of who's name is on the PSU. I like having at least 50% margin of power....but , that's just me.
Well designed and built power supplies will run at rated power just fine. They can run 50-100w over the ratings momentarily until it gets too hot or until safety circuitry kicks in.
Power supplies that use dc-dc conversion or some form of modern power delivery design supported by heavy duty caps will get the job done. Also, if the fan is a double ball bearing and can extract a lot of hot air away, that's another variable to consider.
A well rated, properly built power supply should not have problems running at even 90% of its continuous wattage. If it can't, then its not worth all that extra money.
The power supply's wattage rating is on the DC side, so even if it's platinum efficiency he's still in the high 600 watt range. Somewhere around 80-85% load.
delid it, apply liquid metal, change the psu and then oc it.
deliding a 2k chip. Intel everybody.
exactly this.
It's a shame Intel still isn't soldering their chips, especially not these really expensive ones. Those temps might be a bit better.
DavidGX they had till sandy bridge,ivy bridge was paste,*THATS WHY I STICK WITH MY 5GHZ I5 2500K
When they were soldering, everyone was like "OMG I CAN'T DELID NOW", then they did thermal paste and everyone is like "OMG I NEED TO DELID NOW".
IMNOTA I never heard this ever. There was no reason to delid when they soldered because you didn't need to replace garbage TIM with good TIM to lower your tenps 20 C.
they are soldering these chips now.... and boy they suck... Derbauer's DDF and liquid metal is the best option for these chips
@@1707Cezar but I guess for gaming they don't suck. My 9700k is fine at 5.2 and it's not even delidded and just on an AIO
I think the reason it crashed was the PSU not delivering enough power. I mean when you had it at 4.8GHz, it went up 750+W and its an 800W PSU
So just imagine the kinda power it was drawing at 5GHz
yup, i watched on custom build shop site and they for highend gaming and streaming for this cpu they recommand 1000w power, or for 2 grafics or 3 and this cpu also overclocked 1250w some gold edition dont remember... but than this procesor will be the best even than i7 8700k ^_^ and they said even this cpu has so many cores and its stock based at 2.7 it can run on 5ghz with sli graphics no problem :)
Rejeeve Smith system will lock and complete turn off if that was the issue
K|NGP|N overclocked it at 5.7Ghz on liquid nitrogen and it consumed 900watts...
Im late but this is bullshit. The watt meter measures the power the power supply draws, it outputs less because it's not 100% efficent. So a 800W PSU at a theoretical 80% efficency at 100% load will draw 1000 watts. (1000 * 0,8 = 800)
@@RAJKOify Yeah, because they want your money. Even a 9900K with RTX 2080TI will easily run on a good 500W power supply. Good power supply, I repeat.
i must say, seeing you doing the work is much more entertaining than viewing a pie chart or some sort of excel sheet. Even though id save some time, and already know whats going on etc. Thank you for being different.
Interesting fact: You may need a dedicated breaker circuit in your home to run a completely overclocked 7980XE with some GPUs. Talk about raped electric bills
how about twin Vega 64's on a 7980X? 1600 watts?? :)
Why? A microwave or a hairdryer will pull 1,5+ kilowatts. It's not like it's doing 4,5 or something that an oven will do.
Žiga Auer Interesting. Sounds to me you live in a country that does 240v then to be able to do 4.5 kilowatts without doing anything too fancy. Those ranges would constantly trip breakers in your average 120v home
Most homes in the U.S have at least 240v.
120v is way below average...
jay is my favourite tech/pc channel to watch. Good shit 👌🏿
You caring about wires looking good is one of the reasons I like watching your videos so much. I love watching your 4k videos of builds with perfect wiring. It's encouraging me to keep mine nice when I make changes. And you're making me want to fix the usb plug that's sticking out.
this guy has a cpu that almost thermal throttles when he clocks the 18 cores up to 5 ghz...
my laptop has a cpu that thermal throttles watching this video...
I think if he delided the cpu he would have easily gotten a 10 to 15 degree drop in temps, and aside from that I have a feeling that he would manage to push the thing to 5 GHz if he had a really beefy cooling system. Lets say two 4 slot rads with fans on both sides, and extremely strong pump, using liquid ultra as the tim between the dye and IHS, and between the cpu and waterblock. Like if you want to see this video. Lets hit 5 ghz JAY
Lol I think you would probably need a 560mm monsta rad to cool this to 6ghz but then again why go beyond 5 radiators when most of the overclockers who game have atleast 5ghz cpu and 3000ghs gpu overclock and higher memory clock
jonathan oxlade From what I saw Debower managed to push his chip to 6 ghz on liquid nitrogen, so I'm guessing Jay could hit 5 ghz with that* kind of setup
well i guess the start of this video was the anouncement event for the motherboard and the 8700k :/
Intel announced it yesterday.
You're the type of guy that can make a 5 minute video with 2 letters to discuss about,the good part is that you never run out of ideas,nice.
Delid it and change the TIM & use a kW+ PSU for science! \o/
I think he is using a XP1200 gigabyte PSU, it has 1200w
Yuri231 no, it was 800w
Tuna, I din't find this model in 800w, can you show me the link? I heard what he said but I only find this: www.gigabyte.us/Power-Supply/XP1200M#kf
Yuri231 I actually do not know man
Tuna, there is only the 1200w model! Jay is mistaken... This gigabyte PSU is crap anyway
Never stop caring about how things look. I appreciate the attention to detail, and I know many more do as well.
Delid it to lower temperatures! And use higher wattage power supply and hit that 5GHz!
Ryzen already gave you mainstream 6 core, 12 thread performance. And 8 core, 16 thread mainstream. On a consumer board too. At a fantastic price point.
sorry but Intel i still better...
I think everyone is thinking that AMD's architecture is on par with intels. Its not just about cores, its about how those cores are joined together and their micro-functionality. Sure in realtime AMD matches intel, but with various instabilities that still require testing and optimisation, probably in another improved release. Intel builds on years of IPC improvements and the chip works straight out of the box. Compare a Honda Civic Type R (167miles per hour) with a dodge challenger STR or Porsche panamera. They are both the same speed but they are built in different categories. A Honda 1.5L Turbo is NOT a V6 or V8. AMD is 2X 1800 Ryzens. Intel is ONE processor. Combine two intel 7960X's to make a thrteadripper. Yes astronomical price but astronomical performance.
Ryzen only selling point is lowering the prices , because they can't compete with intel in terms of performance.. that's my opinion.
Ice Man intel spend $12 billion a year on research and development, AMD spend $1 billion a year on research and development... When your spending 12 times what the next guy is spending your gonna have an edge technologically. The fact their edge isn't exactly a gape currently speaks volumes... I wonder what AMD could achieve with a budget 12 times larger than they have now
I think it really is about the clockspeed though, IPC is on point per mhz. You know the RTS game called Ashes of singularity? All I see ryzen scores being under 40fps on the official benchmarks in websites, but I also saw one 1700X at 4GHz and good memory report ~55fps on the CPU test, while OC'd 8-core intels have been howering usually in 45fps range in the test.
So there already is potential on them when properly tweaked (with expensive memory duh) for the average consumer and I guess it will get better on ryzen refresh at early 2018, if they can bump the clockspeeds up a bit. I guess the plus side is, they consume way less power than the new intel offerings...
24 Core Threadripper please AMD.
Naw. 32 core Threadripper please!
Grapesmasher Glory didn’t AMD say that was impossible? Correct me if i’m wrong
Mosh Rojas no just they dont want to.
Maybe 2nd gen
Mosh Rojas they were trying to have people stop questioning the "dummy dyes" but that went out the window when der8aur went and stripped them down. The issue would be the complete lack of memory bandwidth
Mosh Rojas No, they just said that it's not going to happen on threadripper, yet. AMD already has EPYC, the server line of CPUs with the top 32 core processor retailing for 2200$
I run 5Ghz without LN2 just fine on my 7980XE direct die with (3) 360’s. It is amazing how long these old 7980XE’s have held up for!! This is a 4 year old processor, I can easily beat even a threadripper 2990WX 32/64 core in R23. And at 5Ghz the single threaded score in R15 is 225. So that’s just in line with a 10850K/10900K.
Ordered the asus maximus ix code z270 last week, and now they announce the new z370... shiiit ._.
Daniel Arvidsson sell it man , wait for the 8700k and get the maximus z370 hero ,, pair it with a 1080ti and omg ur set for lyfe ma man . Good luck
Unless it doesnt have a return policy just return it. if you dont mind the work you can do that every 30 days and always have the newest stuff too >:D
+Sam M. Atherton That's called blatant abuse of a very helpful company policy, you moron! Idiots like you should be thrown out of online stores!
Someone complains about getting fucked over by Intel who releases a new platform that won't be compatible with the older platform for reasons that are likely bullshit, someone makes a reasonable suggestion of returning it, followed by a less reasonable and moreover impractical suggestion of trading purchases in every 30 days in jest - and gets called a moron for what is obviously the blatant abuse of companies return policies. I think that speaks loads of this person calling someone a moron...
Sadly the store I bought it from doesn't allow returns after you open up the box. "Luckily" one of the leds on the motherboard doesn't work, so might be able to turn it in and chose another mobo. I have an i7 7700k and since intel decided to be an ass and not make it compatible with z370, I have no reason to upgrade :/ Hopefully they will release a bios update that will allow 7th gen cpus to work with it... then I'll get a fancy z370 board.
Jayztwocents I don't want to b a nagging TH-cam commenter but can u have a try putting a bigger power supply as 750w draw on a 800w power supply the power wouldn't be clean and smooth maybe 1200w as 800w would be the efficiency range. And a bigger cooling system as 800w would be to much for your current setup. If better power and lower temp u may achieve 5ghz. Cheers bud love your videos
I doubt a bigger psu would help any if at all. The psu is rated at 800 which means it will put out the same quality power all the way to 800w, ofcourse if the PSU is a reliable brand which I consider EVGA to be
No that's not what it means lol. It means it will do 800 W (and probably a bit more) without blowing up. Power is way cleaner (look up DC ripple) is the PSU is not performing at peak.
You do realize that a 800W power supply at 100% load and theoretical 80% effiency will draw 1000W ?
@@SilentGuyX No, a 800W power supply will draw 800W from the outlet at 100% load, but it will only deliver 640W to your system if it's 80% effective. The remaining 160W is lost as heat mostly.
@@SilentGuyX I don't know why your reply aren't visible here. But you are correct. I can't remember where i was taught that mistaken view of PSU's, but I can tell from googling the subject, that it's a common misunderstanding.
Delid delid delid
Apparently it's something to do with intels manufacturing process which doesn't allow them to solder the IHS
I understand. Jay seems to have a decent chip might as well have some fun with it.
Liquid metal doesn't hold up when it comes to longevity. Power cycles will make it move, slip away from the die, and it will need to be reapplied at some point.
Solder isn't an option on smaller, lower-end chips since the heat difference makes the chip expand and shrink back, leading to possible cracks due to their small size.
Thermal paste does the job while being durable and not needing reapplication. I don't know about the die size on X299 chips to make a comment about them.
There's no point to soldering these. If you are going to delid because you want more cooling, you're going to remove the heat spreader completely. You're going to go bare die. If they soldered the thing on it'd be much worse for the consumer who actually knows what they're doing.
David Folsom // You MUST relid, especially mainstream chips. The substrate is too thin, the IHS provides physical rigidity to avoid the substrate cracking. Bare die cooling requires the user to know what they are doing down to a science. You don't just go and apply a cooler on a bare die.
Maybe you could have gone further with a stronger power supply. At 750W, you're getting close to design limits of an 800W supply, maybe voltage was drooping, or delivery becoming noisy or unstable. Just a thought.
A power supply is not 100% efficent so a 800W PSU at 100% load with a theoretical efficency will draw 1000W to output 800W to the system. That was not the fault.
go for ln2 or dry ice, best cpu oc I seen yet
Thank you for showing the work of switching out the motherboards. The connections and swap are next on my list of PC parts to learn how to upgrade or change out.
Delid it !
Love your honesty and open mindness, you always inform of what you think is right, not what others expect you to say. Thank you for making such a great channel, you 're a great guy who thought this channel won't grow, that was the only thing you were wrong about! ❤.
5:19 is that the A-10 Warthog?
Steven_T_K kinda sounds like it. I don't know if he lives close to a training ground tho
I didn't doubt your thermal paste especially achieving those volts and clock Cycles with successful tests must say quite an awesome video Jay
Delid will obviously help, and on a well binned chip like that, worthwhile.
Love the subtle fire extinguisher on the background. Thank you for the video.
When can we expect a 8700k video??
on 5 Oct, yes... :)
Jay, Simple thing to adjust while looking at screens with a white background... Variable ND Filter on the end of the lens.... A simple twist to the left when looking at the screen, a simple twist to the right when we're looking at you... Cheers..
This puts even the AMD FX-9590 with its 220 TDP to shame!
But I bet no one is going to give it grief because of it TDP, unlike the FX-9590 back in the day.
Well yeah. Today, an 8 thread CPU has 65W TDP. Intel even has 35W i7s that are faster than that FX 9590.
only fools cared about the TDP on the FX's it was the performance that was crap for that high watt.
it's crap and just run crap idk broke people rigs lol, oh hes doing some stupiddd shit though robot unit and 220er going in 30a line or something lol
JR huh?
JR you are stupid
I was not aware of Blender being used for benchmarking like that. I was inspired to try this out on my main rig. Specs are Fedora Linux 26 on Ryzen 7 1700, X370 chipset, MSI RX 480 4 GB. My CPU time was 04:58.74 and my GPU time was 10:14.90.
"It's pretty exponential"... I think you meant "It's quadratic".
x^2 is still an exponent, so it's quadratic as well as exponential... yes, i'm fun at parties D:
Exponential is a^x for some a. Exponential refers to the variable exponent. Quadratic/Cubic/Quartic/etc, refer to the variable base and fixed maximum exponent.
Since he's talking about increase in heat we can really only call it by its rightful name, quadratic, since P=V^2/R. We must assume the load is fairly constant, so it's really the voltage squared that dictates the power consumed. There will be an increased resistance due to increased temperature but it can largely be ignored in this regard.
Holy shit Guys
Diviciatus you need to retake maths if you think x^2 is exponential.
4:53 The sound those springs make as the tighten down under the cpu block screws.... yassssssss.
Lucky you for getting early access to an 8700K
EK actually does have a monoblock for the X299 rampage vi extreme and apex. Acetal and plexi. Shipping is expected beginning of October. Love your content Jay! Keep the awesome vids coming.
Honestly, I think you could hit 5GHz on a better PSU and stronger cooling
I love the fact that you are using thousands of $ worth of parts in the video, but then bring out the ol' trusty beige watt meter that has been electrical tapes to stay closed. :D Great video
Power is not exponential ... it is square of the voltage divided by the impedance of the CPU ... ;-)
François Piednoël am I missing something. This is the like 15th post that mentions that a variable has an exponent (specifically of 2) that makes it somehow not exponential.
For computer literate people, we differentiate the complexities between square and exponentials, because the square one get derivate to a linear equation that makes it a lot more predictable than a exponential complexity, especially when it gets to the determination of the initial conditions, but well, what do I know .. I am nobody :-P
100 watts to 500 watts. Sure looks Exponential to me
the way you explain things makes me feel smart, thanks Jay!
you should de lid the cpu and add liquid metal.
How many folks will *truly* risk delidding a $2000 cpu? :)
the pro overclocker who hit 6.1 ghz on it, said its a must for any one looking to do any overclock because the current paste is just that bad.
well if you get the tool der8auer made for delidding, you don't need to worry about it :)
Can we please please please get a full review and B roll on that motherboard, I am buying one and want to get more hands on info.
LOL that fire extinguisher
you kept saying 16cores, but the 7980XE is an 18core.
SUPER FUN VIDEO TO WATCH JAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!
Lol isopropyl alcohol. I use that to clean my bong while watching jayztwocents.
SilverProductions it helps me deal with intolerant people like you. its also great for ibs.
Wish I still smoked weed.
SUPRA Uhuh, right, someone who cares about our health. Ew, right...
The lighting and video quality is so good, well done with the continued improvements.
I love how ironic it is that the machine that is used to measure how many Watts are being used has a power light on it.
10/10
Whoever thought of that was a genius.
Ohm's Law watt = volt x amp, or amp = watt divided by volt. So in this case, not sure if you are 110volt or 115volt, but watt of 800 max minus the power factor, divided by volt 110 = around 7 to 8 amp out of the wall.
Greetings from South Africa :D
STAN_MAN94 greetings fellow south african :D
this is the best part of building a pc, seeing if you've got a golden sample.... congrats !!!!
No embargo for the 8xxx parts?
Lord V1LE yes what was that about???
the 8xxx parts are under NDA until 5 Oct...barring leaked Chinese results, of course.... (AOTS, 8700K, ~25% faster than 7700K)
Confused how he could show them and the motherboard without breaking the nda
I don't think Intel's NDA really pertained to folks showing Z370 motherboard boxes...; it's the results they are keeping under wraps....
mdd1963 NDAs are stupid though, sometimes you’re not even allowed to say the product name
Quickly becoming my favorite tech channel, love the videos and how down to earth you and your team are!
It would be really cool if you Dellidded and did liquid medal
man this video makes me feel even better about my 8600k at 5.3 on 1.400v under 75c on air
I wonder if deliding will allow for a 5Ghz OC
Amy Pond on ln2 hit 6.1ghz so with a delid and a good loop yeah would say so.
Imagine a medium sized radiator with 6 foot tubes for placing outdoors in a Nebraska -15F windy weather winter day! 5.5 GHz? 2 stage radiator...? 1rst stage indoors, for heating the living room, 2nd stage for outdoors in winter, -10F temps supplying coolant to CPU...! :)
+mdd1963 That's not nearly cold enough to get 5.5 Ghz. I doubt you could do that with DICE cooling. I have a cooler I can run -35c loaded temps, but not 800+w on. Even still, the limit is not the temps, its the insane voltage and degredation you will hit if its even remotely close to room temp. If its cooled with LN2, the chip gets way less degredation, and that's why its ok to push things like Ryzen up to 2.0v (that is max voltage for people reading this, you should calmly put the LN2 pot down and walk away if you don't know what you're doing).
Realistically, with a super lucky chip, and the obvious delid, Jay might be able to get 5.1 Ghz max if he is in such a cold sub-zero climate. The chip may degrade in under a year, but who cares, Threadripper with 32c/64t will be out most likely. Don't forget sub-zero motherboard prep if you keep the computer inside with the radiator outside, otherwise it will only be awesome for about 30 minutes until water condenses and you have a $2500+ paper weight (CPU + mobo).
Even so, chilled liquid would be better than liquid heating up gradually to 60+ C, right? :) (I can dream!) (As if I'd ever pop $2k for this, anyway!) :)
"We're at the limits of water, as you can see". Love that line. Lava Lake boys
Does anyone know a website or a post on eBay on fake/dummy graphics cards. You may be asking....why?
I want to show my passion for gaming and my new found love for pc gaming by having a shelf (full, well over time) of gpus. Old new and cool looking ones.
Any ideas hit me up on this comment thanks!!
Jenko 345 Look up Graphics Cards coolers.
you could look out for dead cards on ebay.
If you find a link - please post it because I need the Original Box for an Phenom II x4 955 :(
Having a hard time filming that screen Nick?
Why don't you guys lower the screen brightness down, until it's not overly bright for the camera?
Or does the camera have a HDR setting so it auto compensates for blown out white backgrounds?
Should've delidded this cpu so you could've gotten lower temps
Why should he have to void Warranty to get lower temps Jay has never been one to do things like that (ignoring the MOBO incident)
You know he probally get it send over for free, the temps will lower on an avarage about 20 degrees celsius and you will get a bigger head room for overclocking and your liquid temps wil be lower.
Yes that may be true but once again this is a Product that is sold to the general public why is it so flawed that the owner has to put his 2000$+ investment on the line to get the optimum performance from it.
Hi Jay long time watcher but first time commenting, I dig the new studio man congratulations on your channel and continued success. I have a recommendation for lighting - I'm a professional photographer and light sets on a daily basis. on the segment where you are sitting I understand that, that light behind you is possibly set up mainly to light the scene as fill or key while you are standing behind the desk and in this instance you thought it would serve as a good kicker or backlight but it just didn't work out man. I would recommended to either turn it off and adjust ambient in camera or open up the light source by pointing it to a white wall or if you have it a nice big defuser to place it between you and the light source this will help not blowing and overexposing your images if you are going to be moving around in set. Any how just my two cents ;)..
This video is not for 7890XE but for 8700k and x370 board teaser! Got it?????!
I loved this video. Very exciting. Overclocking with stuff that a regular person might have in their system.
liquid nitrogen
DELTACX10 der8auer already has. 6.1ghz at 1.45v. Pulls 1kw xD
A video over 20 minutes from jay, Makes my day
delid it
I finally got my Threadripper build up and running with no issues. Ditched my MSI motherboard after the second one giving me the same problems, and switched to Asus. What a beast of a motherboard.
delid and then go for 5GHz ;)
I like how the fire extinguisher is chilling in the background hahahaha !
Thanks for the video Jay. I just subscribed after watching your videos here and there for a while now, because you have great info and like to show your work. I am building a new Ryzen system for my workflow with youtube and the info i saw from you looked good. I am actually blind in my center vision, as i have none at all and can use all the help that i can get when building a new pc. It's hard enough for me to create content for my channel as a blind guy, it makes a world of difference when someone is giving you a helping hand through his video. Much appreciated and keep up the good work.
this channel has certainly grown quite nicely
"You're gonna lose alot more points if you blow up your chip." haha
Jay, first of all, I really like your work. Keep it on. Second, from what I have seen and read, you need delidding on new Intel HEDT CPUs (actually now it is on ALL Intel CPUs) to get maximum out of them. With delidded CPU, new EKWB Rampage water block, and Skunkworks level of cooling you might be able to get 5GHz. I am really looking forward for that adventure. :D
Jay, no, YOU are extreme! And I love it. Rock on dude. Much love. Awesome work on the video.
Jay i have a simple yet maybe stupid question... but how can you post temperature charts in an open test bench... when if this was inside any normal case the temps eventually will get higher. from few to many degrees i believe because of less airflow... more trapped heat from all parts... etc. has anyone done an open and a properly closed case system test to see the difference?
(and no lukes cable crappy video doesn't matter its not what i am wondering). from personal experience i have seen even 5c more temps when inside a proper case. you?
The PSU is rated for 800 Watts DELIVERY that means at 80% efficiency it'll consume a 1000 Watts from the WALL. Also most PSU will allow over wattage spikes (RTFM) of up to 10% momentarily.
May not be an Asus sponsored vid, but must admit they're current products are doing great. With my Ryzen build, ends up I am Using mostly Asus hardware and peripherals. The mobo makes OC so much better. The Strix 1080 absolutely kills it, always below 60c at 100% load with stock cooler. Love your channel and terrible sense of humor too, keep it up.
12:17 "I wonder if I have a binned chip?"
The story of how it all began lol
Just a noob friendly reminder since a lot of people (Not Jay) who overclock simply run Cinebench and no other testing.
Passing cinebench =/= stable. Stress test with Intel Burn or with Prime 95. Even Aida 64 stress test. Any of that for at least a few hours is better than a simple Cinebench run
Cinebench is mainly my starting point when overclocking.
Am I the only one who is gonna point out that those weird sounds are just like the videos you find online of them coming from the sky. Lol.
Spoopy
15 minutes into the video, nothing but a water bottle next to Jay... Then, after that heavy OC, I notice he's prepared for a big fire with a extinguisher next to the test bench =)
Did you check how warm the PSU got? When you run things near their limit they'll get less predictable. It'd be interesting to see if your system stability improves with a more powerful PSU.
Wow! The most wattage I could pull from the wall with any system was 600W total measured on the wall. And that was with a 4.3 or 4.4 Ghz FX8320 AND a HD 7950 running north of 1Ghz. I got that by running a Furmark burn-in WITH 6 of the 8 cores running Prime95!
The 8-pin can handle 624W since it should be 13A rated, and then the 4-pin would be half that at 312W, so that's 936W in total.
Although the cables are probably 18AWG 10A rated (720W total 8+4), and even though you can go past that with no problem provided that your room temp isn't like 45C or something crazy, it's why they get warm.
When you said 6 cores and 12 threads in there, i expected you to say there are 2 billion transistors. That's way more amazing.
Nice to see that at Stock the processor draws what its TDP lists at least. Same deal is with threadripper.
What do you think about delidding it to get the 4.8 without throttling ? Delid, put some liquid metal inside and put it back together.
Hey Jay,
Love the channel I'm new to the master race and I have watched a lot of your videos along with a some other youtubers. Thanks for all your info and keep it up!
Could you make a video, on what to do if you apply TOO much liquid metal? For example you put a big dot and it's too much to spread out, and maybe even spill something on your MB. What's the correct procedure to clean it?
"north korea is firing" damn pretty sure even my neighbors heard my laugh
Seems all these are good OC'ers. I have setup 3 so far and all 3 have gotten to 4.8ghz at least. Cool video!