Quick in-depth Guide to Diluc Vape & Melt, Gimmick included | Genshin Impact

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  • 2 Hydro not included because its self explanatory and is easy to min max.
    If there's something i'm missing / mistaken, feel free to leave a comment, thank you for watching, and Hopefully the video can be helpful!
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    VAPE
    00:00 Some thing worth remembering
    00:10 Who can enable Diluc Vape?
    00:17 Barbara works just as well (Showcase)
    00:30 Bennett is not mandatory
    00:37 Bennett-less, F2P Abyss showcase
    00:55 Gimmick : Mona
    01:05 Gimmick: Mona (Showcase)
    01:16 Gimmick: Kokomi
    01:23 Gimmick: Kokomi (showcase)
    01:33 Gimmick: Nilou
    01:40 Gimmick: Nilou (Showcase)
    01:52 Yelan: Understand Her Compability
    01:59 Yelan: Setup Done Right
    02:08 Yelan: Setup Done Wrong
    02:16 Yelan: NA1 Cancel
    02:28 Yelan: No NA1 Cancel = Rip DPS
    02:39 Sucrose: The ultimate Vape Steroid
    02:48 Min Max: Sucrose + XQ
    03:00 Min Max: Kazuha + XQ
    03:18 Min Max: Kazuha + Yelan
    MELT
    03:33 Who can enable Diluc Melt?
    03:42 The General idea of Diluc Melt
    03:59 Rosaria: Easy but Clunky
    04:10 Setup : Rosaria Variant (Single Target)
    04:27 Setup: Rosaria Variant (AoE)
    04:45 Kaeya: The Ultimate Cryo SubDPS
    04:55 Kaeya: Full Combo without 2nd Cryo Source
    05:08 Setup: Kaeya + Kazuha (Single Target)
    05:26 Setup: Kaeya + Kazuha (AoE)
    05:46 Diona: The Ultimate Melt Steroids
    05:59 Setup: Diona + Kazuha
    06:18 Setup: Melt Dragonstrike
    06:38 Melt no Setup
    06:58 Melt Dragonstrike no Setup
    07:16 Closing
    Music
    Yugioh WC 2009 Stardust Accelerator - Duel Theme
    #genshinimpact #diluc
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  • @itzexotic_
    @itzexotic_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Actually, I like how you include other hydro supports other than XQ and Yelan and how to optimise them with Diluc!

  • @ArsevensX
    @ArsevensX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Funny how Diona decided to be Diluc's enemy, turns out to be one of the best support for him 😂

  • @azudora8255
    @azudora8255 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for creating this very informative video about him. As much as I like those channel that covers different characters, I enjoy watching channels for those niche/specific characters who deep dives everything about the character. My suggestion is that for visual clarity, NA(n) could be changed to N(n) instead so its easier to read (and generally what is most people are used to) so instead of NA1QNA1QNA1Q, it could've been N1Qx3 or something.

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noted, thanks for the feedback!

  • @Rukiflame
    @Rukiflame ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice. I has been waiting for this, sometimes I don't understand your rotation. Thank you ❤

  • @mista7514
    @mista7514 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly what I wanted! Thanks!

  • @caily.
    @caily. ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope to see more videos like this in the future it really helps ❤️

  • @crazyturbo4286
    @crazyturbo4286 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this. I'm terrible at playing Diluc Melt but this really helped me get consistent melts with Diluc.

  • @azzooz-ragnvindr
    @azzooz-ragnvindr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this man 😔❤
    My fav youtube in genshin and abyss and everything ❤✨

  • @comradeokita5785
    @comradeokita5785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is now Diluc Bday

  • @interrogassao8845
    @interrogassao8845 ปีที่แล้ว

    i will save this for the time i get confused with rotations :)

  • @KerwinDean
    @KerwinDean ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome vid! It's definitely going to be a repeat watch for me to fully learn Diluc's kit and team comps. Any thoughts on C6 Kaeya btw? Will the extra icicle provide consistent melts for Diluc? Thanks.

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't say for sure because I don't have it and never heard anyone mentioning about C6 Kaeya either aside from the DPS increase.

  • @BossCatGaming
    @BossCatGaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this video. Finally got serious about building diluc. I want to use him with C0 kazuha, xinqiu and bennet. What’s the minimum elemental mastery I should have on diluc for this team?🙏🏾

  • @pfalzFinest
    @pfalzFinest ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really great video. I'm trying to explore more synergy options for Diluc outside of the typical XQ/Yelan and this has been very helpful. What's your opinion on Diluc's synergy with Ayaka/Ganyu/Shenhe?
    So far I've been really enjoying a team of Diluc/Ayaka/Kazuha/Kokomi. Sometimes the cryo+hydro application is enough to instantly refreeze them in place but the timing is tight. Sometimes Diluc also causes a shatter instead of a melt, but can't really figure out why.

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ayaka is fine, but more of Speedrun gimmick for Bosses and is a waste slot for Diluc.
      Knowing Her Q is even strong enough for Hu Tao to do Melt within than 5 seconds.
      Shenhe couldn't work consistently.
      Her Q application is even more uneven than Diona, so its hard to make Her work as solo Enabler.
      Although She is good for 2 Cryo team.
      Ganyu is one of the best Diluc melt enabler next to Kaeya. Though Her Q application needs some learning to understand, it worth the effort for the fact Her Team variant is versatile, She can hold elegy, and allows for TtoDS Team variant.
      Diluc do Shatters when Mobs is on Freeze state and Diluc either hit with non reaction attack (ICD) or Hit them when the Cryo aura is weak (Frozen mobs can still be affected bt Cryo)
      This is why Freeze Melt variant is unreliable for Diluc because the potential Shatters as He need to do full combo (which needs you to do some NA) in order to maximize His DPS.
      Running 2 Cryo (ideally Diona + any other Cryo enabler) would be eventually be better as its more practical and has the same potential DPS output.

    • @pfalzFinest
      @pfalzFinest ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavernman4739 So it depends on how much cryo aura is applied if it leads to a melt vs a shatter? Yeah it's probably too finicky. I really liked the crowd control but it's not possible for Kazuha to get double cryo/pyro swirl without breaking the freeze anyways.
      What kind of tricks are there for Ganyu's Q with Diluc? I'm thinking of getting her for a melt support since Kaeya C6 is going to take so long (and she also seems like fun for messing around with fridge teams).

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pfalzFinest Use her Q as closely as possible to Enemy when used to increase the consistency.
      Though tbh, As good Ganyu is as Enabler, She is VERY RnG reliant. You can get Her Q pattern right on one boss, then still need different setup and combo managenet everywhere else.
      This is why I left Her on the guide because Her Rotations isnt general but specific for certain enemy, scenario, and bosses.
      I don't recommend specifically pulling Ganyu as Melt enabler, as Rosaria and Kaeya exist and is more practical.
      Both of them practically has the same DPS output as Ganyu variant due to how Diluc melt rotation works (Ganyu generally wont' benefit from Bennett)
      The only Benefit of Ganyu variant are Her being able to hold Elegy, and allows for Sucrose (if you use Her) to give TtoDS to Diluc, and the QoL in AoE.

  • @velvet287
    @velvet287 ปีที่แล้ว

    Little question, in a comp where both Bennett and Rosaria present, which set do you put on them ? Specifically the Diluc - Bennett - Rosaria - Diona comp. I imagined it would be NO for Bennett but what would be optimal (for Diluc's damage) to put on Rosaria ?

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personally my Bennett remains using 4pc NO, and let Diona hold instructor so I can leave my Rosaria with 4pc EoSF for bettet Team DPS.

  • @deroestheknight7853
    @deroestheknight7853 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video! I'm hoping to make a sorta Monsdstat focused Diluc Melt team and I know you used Sucrose and Kazuha in your examples but I wondering if I can just mimic what you're doing with kazuha on Venti? His rerun is coming up and I thought it fitting to have Diluc be supported by his nations Archon even if Kazuha would likely be the better fit.

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I'm not mistaken, Venti Q can absorb multiple element even after absorbing one, and still follow normal Elemental Priority (Hydro > Pyro > Electro > Cryo) so most likely No, His constant Pyro Swirl will ended up mess up Diluc DPS.
      It is still doable with Rosaria if you don't use His Q since Her Application is consistent and fast enough for Diluc to melt shorter version full Combo.
      You want might want yo try Mona instead if you want to run Venti.
      Mona's omen can boost both Venti and Diluc, Venti's passive can help Mona's ER problem and Venti multi swirl shouldn't mess Diluc vape so long you manage Diluc Combo properly

    • @deroestheknight7853
      @deroestheknight7853 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cavernman4739 Huh... Going off of the description in game and at least what KQM said as of 3.3 I'm not seeing anything saying it'll absorb multiple times but I do know it has quadratic scaling so maybe that's it? it's worth testing at the very least but assuming it only absorbs the cryo theoritcally speaking would it work then? Otherwise I can just use Sucrose but she's only C1 right now.

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, is that case?
      I'm simply relying on my Memory about His Q having multiple colors each time it comes in contact with different Element, So I assume it also Absorb and Apply element accordingly.
      Yes, assuming it only absorb and apply Cryo, He should works.
      Yes Sucrose can also work, in some case better than Kazuha (Rosaria, Ganyu,and Layla variant)
      C1 is enough, as matter fact, only C1 that you might need (so She doesn't have to stuck with Sacrificial)

    • @deroestheknight7853
      @deroestheknight7853 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cavernman4739 That's understandable, his burst is quiet large and swirls up to 7 times while having 20 anemo ticks and 16 Absorbed Element ticks (Cryo in this case) according to KQM. That's good to hear she works and I'll likely rewatch her sections when Venti's banner comes around in case I fail the 50/50. Thanks for all the info! helps me fine tune my Diluc to do his best while having a nice theme going on.

  • @Rylei226
    @Rylei226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting for something like this :D also have you tried Layla even though it’s not in this video?

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, I did tried Her but not very thoroughly so I left Her.
      From what I can tell She is practically a better Diona in term of application (they both share almost same issue with AoE) minus the buff.

    • @Rylei226
      @Rylei226 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavernman4739 I think her c4 is worth mentioning since it can help Diluc’s NA damage

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rylei226 Oh I didn't know about that, never bother (or just plain forgot) checking Her Cons.
      It's a good thing I didn't include Her then.

    • @Rylei226
      @Rylei226 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavernman4739 oh ok, also do you think I can use Amber with just Instructor to substitute Bennett? My Diluc has a 70/200 crit ratio with 37 EM WGS

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rylei226 Definitely can.
      I usually run Atk Build as well when running non Bennett.
      the Video contains one footage of a Bennett-less Abyss run without any 5* Wep (Diluc is using Mailed Flower), you might want to check the section for better reference.

  • @Atru44
    @Atru44 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do a guide to diluc? i recently got wolf's gravestone and idk if there is a better weapon for him

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      I already did numerous Diluc guide, you might want to check my Channel Playlist.
      To your question about WGS, yes there are better weapons than WGS namely Reed sea and Redhorn.
      Although it's only if Bennett is on the team. If Diluc isn't paired with Bennett, WGS (and even Unforged) is still better.

    • @Atru44
      @Atru44 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavernman4739 perfect, sorry for diluc but i'm gonna bench him again...

  • @flowof689
    @flowof689 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg, this is what i looking for, also i have question, so i was farming deepwoods, in the process i got a really good 4pc gilded dream, is it work for diluc? Or 4pc crimson still the best?

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      CW is still BiS for Diluc, but Gilded still works.

  • @midorihanaaa
    @midorihanaaa หลายเดือนก่อน

    say if i wanted to try playing barbie-diluc vape but don't have a kazuha (he refuses to come home), what would her rotations be like with sucrose? (i wanna try it for fun lol. i generally play more melt than vape)

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ideal (High Frontload DPS, worse downtime)
      Bennett > Sucrose (EM Wep)> Barbara (TtoDS) > Diluc
      Optimal (Lower DPS, consistent uptime)
      Barbara E (Sacrificial) > Bennett Q E > Sucrose (TtoDS) > Approach Enemy to remove Pyro Aura OR do Ex2 N1 / E N4 before swapping to Diluc > Diluc (don't do combo immediately wait for Hydro to be applier / Absorbed if you use Sucrose Q)

  • @Badkhela
    @Badkhela 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the guide.
    When i do my rotation with furina, benny, diluc, kazuha, ill do furina e-q, kazuha q, benny q-e then ill try to swirl pyro but hydro debuff is always on, what am i doing wrong?. I play on a phone if that makes any difference. Thanks

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The setup you used should work fine in ST as long as you don't have any Swap Delays.
      But in AoE:
      If your Bennett is C6, Do N1 after Q E to reapply Pyro (Furina E Q > Kazuha Q > Bennett Q E N1 > Kazuha E Tap > Diluc)
      The timing is strict, so if you are playing with >200 Ping, it could be tricky.
      If your Bennett isn't C6, it's kinda impossible to remove Pyro after using Kazuha Q infused with Hydro.
      Instead, use Kazuha Q after Pyro Swirl.
      Example: Bennett Q > Kazuha E Pyro Swirl > Furina E Q > Kazuha Q > Diluc
      Kazuha's Q will get infused by Pyro but the Hydro Aura will persist as long as there is one or more enemies undet Hydro aura during the swirl.
      You can also use Kazuha E after Q if all enemies are affected by Hydro, this way thr Hydro aura will be stronger and harder to remove.

    • @Badkhela
      @Badkhela 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @cavernman4739 o wow, good stuff. Thanks a lot. Theres definitely a delay when switching characters playing on phone and it looks like i need to be pretty fast switching back to kazuha to swirl pyro. Ill try the other tech you listed here. Thank you so much for your help!.

  • @renzniji7993
    @renzniji7993 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you even Dragonstrike like that ;c

  • @raptor-x6952
    @raptor-x6952 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where have you trained doing dragonstrikes? I mean abyss or some places in open world?

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Abyss.
      I used to attempt Dragonstrike run every once in a while, and somehow get used to it before I knew it.
      Personally, While training on specific place / boss / enemy might be good to get the hang of it, you'll have trouble doing it in real practice as other factor might screw what your hand had used to (hit lag, interruption, timing, collisions issue, etc)
      So I find practice on Abyss (especially non bosses) to be the most effective.

  • @syaiffudinsalleh4464
    @syaiffudinsalleh4464 ปีที่แล้ว

    Btw lets say u have c1 kazuha, does your rotation is similar or different to take advantage of xtra e skill after burst?

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      Simillar.
      There is little to no point of using additional Kazuha E, even worse after Q. it'll just make the setup longer which would just kill your DPS window, especially in Yelan / Kaeya team where they have strict DPS window.

  • @arslan9464
    @arslan9464 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was hoping to make a melt team with Diluc, Charlotte, Benny, and Kazuha but would you recommend it or would running Kaeya be better?

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't done much test with Charlotte but Team DPS speaking Kaeya is better.
      Charlotte provide QoL in AoE with Her Q frontload Cryo application plus Range and more forgiving Energy requirement since She doesn't need Q to help enabling Melt.

    • @arslan9464
      @arslan9464 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cavernman4739 I see, how about Chongyun's skill imbueing Diluc with cryo? Something like Chongyun E + Diluc NA 2 E + NA2 E+ NA2 E?

  • @nct121
    @nct121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Help, i have problem with Diluc's ult, he push mob away. If i don't use ult i don't have infusion and if i ult, i have to chase them down
    Is there any solution for that problem? I master Dragonstrike but i don't have Diona, i'm using 2 ameno, is there any good rotation for that team?, My team is Diluc, Sucrose, Kazuha, Layla

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no solution to that sadly except C6 Bennett.
      This is why Dragonstrike is only ideal for ST.

    • @nct121
      @nct121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cavernman4739 what's ST mean?

  • @hamza-m557
    @hamza-m557 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can c2 diluc with serpent spine be as potential as your diluc?

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely. Cons hardly affect Diluc DMG (except C4, which almost never used in most scenario)
      And with proper stats, Serpent Spine is just close behind most 5*(with R5 being Straight up better)

    • @hamza-m557
      @hamza-m557 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavernman4739 Thx 🤍

  • @davidleman3712
    @davidleman3712 ปีที่แล้ว

    bang utk menit 5:35 yng pake kaeya kok aura pyro di musuh bisa langsung hilang cepat gitu, kadang aku coba dia asik ga mau hilang malah jadi smua dapat aura pyro

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      Pyro Aura nya terlalu kuat buat Kaeya hapus.
      Kalo banyak musuh yg kena Bennett E, atau Kazuha E waktu Swirl Pyro, bakal susah (bahkan mustahil) buat hapus Pyro Aura nya.
      Pake NA atau jangan pake Kazuha E buat pyro swirl nya (tunggu sampe Q nya swirl Pyro kek di Video nya) atau usahain cuma satu atau dua momon yg dapet Pyro Aura supaya Pyro aura nya bisa langsung ilang.

    • @davidleman3712
      @davidleman3712 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavernman4739 oke makasih bang jawaban nya

  • @tendoubanshou2517
    @tendoubanshou2517 ปีที่แล้ว

    bang diluc c1 mailed talent 8 10 8 terus crit 63/187 itu bagus ga si bang , gwe coba di spiral gaada rasa malahan

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      Main nya asal bar bar atau sambil pake setup?
      Segitu harus nya udah bagus om. Salah satu stats punya ane juga cuma 70/180 yg suka di bawa ke Abyss.

    • @tendoubanshou2517
      @tendoubanshou2517 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavernman4739 wah itu sih aku suka main barbar doang om wkwk , btw tim nya bagusan vapo yelan + zhongli ato vapo yelan + sucrose bang ? sama rotasi nya gimana ?

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tendoubanshou2517 Sucrose om, jauh juga DPS + DMG nya.
      Bennett E, Yelan Q E (Momon harus kena Aura Pyro sebelum pake Yelan Q) > Bennett Q E > Sucrose E NA3 > Diluc
      Kalo Bennett nya gak C6, cek di vidro yg bagian NA Cancel om buat min max DPS nya.
      Sebenerya sih Zhongli juga bagus buat alternatif, kasih aja Zhongli 4pc Instructor biar ga terlalu jatoh DPS nya.
      Pake shield nya sebelum swap ke Diluc biar durasi Intructor nya lama kepake sama Diluc lagi on field.

    • @tendoubanshou2517
      @tendoubanshou2517 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavernman4739 oke siap bang 👍

  • @mondalsonai
    @mondalsonai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bennet mona kazuha diluc how to rotate

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bennett > Kazuha E > Mona E Q > Diluc EN1EEN1Q > repeat

  • @Aven.
    @Aven. ปีที่แล้ว

    DIOna

  • @ApelPai88
    @ApelPai88 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think qiqi is good

    • @cavernman4739
      @cavernman4739  ปีที่แล้ว

      Too inconsistent and limited AoE, nearly worse than Diona.
      Diona herself is nearly impossible to setup in AoE and is lackluster if it wasnt for Dragonstrike and the C6 Bonus.

    • @ApelPai88
      @ApelPai88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavernman4739 iam waiting your new dragonstrike tutorial.