I run a 25' 3/8 hose from the wall regulator. Even with hf fittings and filter at the gun I drop about 10-15psi. I like to set the wall to around 60psi when spraying and adjust to what I need at the gun. If I set it at higher pressures for air tools it fluctuates the line pressure with the on/off cycles of my compressor, so it changes at the gun
I bet at 29psi would atomize better so when the paint lands it is already speed out wider and level out better. Also if you don't already have them, you may swap to high flow fittings. They are the same outer diameter, but the Id is opened up for better air flow.
I like a guage at the gun for repeatability but I try not to depend on one and learn to adjust accordingly by looking at what the material is doing. Different materials, guns, temperatures, and spray techniques call for different pressures. Just gotta play with it some. You want enough pressure to atomize to your liking. Sometimes some orange peel is needed to match/blend paint. Flatter coats call for more pressure and or less paint flow at the gun for a finer mist. Adjust your spraying speed to maintain a wet enough coat to flow out but not run. Use temperature appropriate reducers and hardeners
I saw your second video first and left a longer comment there. FWIW, I run between 90-115psi in my lines, and if I have something (like my spray guns or blast cabinet) that needs less I use a regulator at the tool and regulate down. That way I'm the most likely to have the airflow that I need and lower the pressure to what I need at the gun. FWIW, with the small regulator on the gun I do see a pressure drop but nothing like you're seeing, I have >90psig in the lines, typically I'll see about 35-40 after the regulator and about a 10psi drop when I hit to trigger on the gun.
Mine 3m regulator is doing the exact same thing atm. What did you figure out. I’m using the 3m professional gun and it likes to run around 19 psi but to achieve that I have to have my regulator at the hose around 80psi and my gun sounds like it is screaming. I have a 50ft hose and high flow fittings. I have no idea what’s going on.
If you have a regulator before the hose, I recommend removing it. Have your tank fully opened, let it go thru any filter/ dryer, but connect the hose straight to a fitting and only have the air flow control valve(regulator) on the gun. That really helped me. From the gun, simply adjust depending on your preference. I'm using the spectrum hte 1.3 from Harbor Freight running 22-24psi with about 2½ turns of fluid. That's where I get the best atomization! 👌
Lvlp guns use the lower pressure like you have been used to spraying. At 26 to 29 psi with that hvlp gun you will save a lot of sanding before buffing to get rid of orange peel. You will get less orange peel using the higher pressures. Especially clear coat you could bump it to 30 to 32 and try it to get a flatter finish less orange peel.
I watched a lot of your videos and I want to ask your advice on painting my truck. It’s a 86 square body it was painted some time ago and it has a color change. The body in pretty good shape maybe half dozen door dings, and the clear coat is flaking off. Can I sand the truck and get all the clear coat off with 220 grit and then with 320 and wet sand with 400 and then spray a primer sealer and then a base coat and clear. It’s a daily driver I’m not looking for a show paint job I want it look decent.,Do you agree with what I want to do or do I need to go a different route. Thanks for you help.
Yea, that's exactly how I would go about it! 👍 if you do bodywork, where you have to use body filler.. I would use high build on those areas only, no need to spray high build over the whole truck. Sealer gets everything one solid color and creates a bond between the old paint and new. Good idea to use sealer! Grits are right, also. 400 is last grit you want to use before spraying! 600-800grits are more for blending and 1000 & higher are finishing Sounds like you got this in the bag. Good luck with your project 😎🙌
I been watching your videos I finally sprayed my car I used a high build primer with a 1.7 tip I notice it feels like 80 grit after I spraye. is that normal or what do u think went wrong?
HVLP is an air hog lol. I use a conventional cap for base and LVLP cap for my clear coat gun. My wall setting is 80 using all high flow fittings 25' air hose
You got tooo many regulators goin on. Set it at 100 at the compressor then you can play with it at the gun. That middle one off the wall is choking your air supply. Just my opinion
I run 2 regulators and have no issues, I have a similar compressor plus a 20 gallon reserve. I run my main line a 150, the I have a dump into a separate water separator/ regulator for my spray gun. It took a while to dial it in. 1 think I do know it that the harbor freight gauge is in accurate. At least mine is off by 12-15 psi. I switched to a digital regulator at my gun. I didn't like it as first, but is solved a lot of my issues I had in inconsistencies.
What's up bro. I watch all your videos. I would love to win a giveaway but in my personal opinion giveaways don't work. I use to do them all the time on my channel and I never seen growth from them. But gaining entry's from buying the vinyl is a good idea. Atkeast you won't have random people popping in on your giveaway just trying to get somthing free. I painted my own car a few months ago and now I have several folks wanting paint. Keep the videos coming bro
Thanks bro! My videos are supposed to be For DIY'ers,.. so people can learn and want to try taking on their project themselves.. but I understand if people don't feel fully confident in taking on a full paint project. Even $400 for a paint kit is a lot of money for someone to just throw away if you don't know what you're doing. But, if someone were to win a paint kit.. then they won't lose, just gain the experience! Just my opinion! I was only thinking of doing 100 entries, so chances of winning are 1 out of 100 at minimum. I personally don't enter giveaways that have endless entries.. feels like chances are 1 in a million! 😮💨
that is actually an AIR FLOW regulator not a air pressure regulator i had the same fight in my head. my compressor is set to shut off at 150 psi, the regulator out of the compressor is set to 90 psi and i have a walcom membrane digital regulator at my gun set to whatever will be my spraying pressure. 22-29 psi (whatever you like) then i use the airflow control valve on the spraygun itself if i want a little less air flow (but i never mess with that), using the walcom regulator at the gun helps even out the pressure fluctuations in the line caused by the compressor going between its turn on and shut off pressures. im not sure if the walcom membrane regulator is something special or if its just a regular ole diaghragm regulator, i could not figure out if its just a wording they use and diaphragm is the same thing as membrane, so i bought the walcom, expensive but still great quality stuff . and my pressure stays within 1-2 psi at the gun when the gauge on the compressor goes to down to 90 turns on then shuts off at 150, with an air FLOW regulator like what you have i the video, the line pressure fluctuation will be quite a bit more .
@@SOLDOZER WRONG....do a little research on the the design of the "regulator" that comes on a paint gun, and youll see that its not a pressure regulator, its a valve.. its painfully obvious. the reason you get a pressure reading is because the orifice at the tip is creating backpressure, but its not a pressure regulator, it has no diaphragm in it, it is simply a valve opening and closing to allow and restrict the amount air that can flow past it based on how open or closed it is. your the clueless on boss. do some research, leave the ego out of it and youll see your wrong. i admire your passionate response but its wrong th-cam.com/video/vIa1f29hqFk/w-d-xo.html
@@SOLDOZER i know the difference too, i have not been welding as long as you have (a measly 12 years) but i do know the difference, look at the design of the "regulator" on a paint gun. and you will see that it is not a pressure regulator.
Set from gun pressure 29psi. Pressure always drops longer hose. Set wall pressure as require.. Do not be scared..! 😊
I run a 25' 3/8 hose from the wall regulator. Even with hf fittings and filter at the gun I drop about 10-15psi. I like to set the wall to around 60psi when spraying and adjust to what I need at the gun. If I set it at higher pressures for air tools it fluctuates the line pressure with the on/off cycles of my compressor, so it changes at the gun
Thank you. You could do an “Is it supposed to do that series.”
Tip: I like to place a 1 inch piece of tape over the gauge to reduce or eliminate over spray on it.
I bet at 29psi would atomize better so when the paint lands it is already speed out wider and level out better. Also if you don't already have them, you may swap to high flow fittings. They are the same outer diameter, but the Id is opened up for better air flow.
New video is about to drop! 👀
I'm still using normal fittings. I'll look into the high flow 👌
@@GTsPerformance look this vid from SATA th-cam.com/video/RfWqL35Riho/w-d-xo.html
Do a break down of cleaning or clearing your guns after using
Yes to decals and giveaway. T Shirts.. your a good man .
I like a guage at the gun for repeatability but I try not to depend on one and learn to adjust accordingly by looking at what the material is doing. Different materials, guns, temperatures, and spray techniques call for different pressures. Just gotta play with it some. You want enough pressure to atomize to your liking. Sometimes some orange peel is needed to match/blend paint. Flatter coats call for more pressure and or less paint flow at the gun for a finer mist. Adjust your spraying speed to maintain a wet enough coat to flow out but not run. Use temperature appropriate reducers and hardeners
crank your pressure up on the wall and regulate at the gun.Plus all the regulators could be affecting your volume of air to the gun.
I'm going through the same thing just got a new air compressor 25 gallon 18.5 cfms I never used a regulator on my gun before.
I saw your second video first and left a longer comment there.
FWIW, I run between 90-115psi in my lines, and if I have something (like my spray guns or blast cabinet) that needs less I use a regulator at the tool and regulate down. That way I'm the most likely to have the airflow that I need and lower the pressure to what I need at the gun. FWIW, with the small regulator on the gun I do see a pressure drop but nothing like you're seeing, I have >90psig in the lines, typically I'll see about 35-40 after the regulator and about a 10psi drop when I hit to trigger on the gun.
Does a 75$ harbor freight spray gun work good with a 30gallon air compressor it’s like 4.5 Horsepower
It appears you may not have high flow fittings on your hose. HVLP guns really need the high flow fittings and a 3/8” air hose.
I don't see a water filter at the gun. What do you use.
Mine 3m regulator is doing the exact same thing atm. What did you figure out. I’m using the 3m professional gun and it likes to run around 19 psi but to achieve that I have to have my regulator at the hose around 80psi and my gun sounds like it is screaming. I have a 50ft hose and high flow fittings. I have no idea what’s going on.
If you have a regulator before the hose, I recommend removing it. Have your tank fully opened, let it go thru any filter/ dryer, but connect the hose straight to a fitting and only have the air flow control valve(regulator) on the gun. That really helped me.
From the gun, simply adjust depending on your preference. I'm using the spectrum hte 1.3 from Harbor Freight running 22-24psi with about 2½ turns of fluid. That's where I get the best atomization! 👌
Did you ever figure it out?
How much do you get the gun for
Lvlp guns use the lower pressure like you have been used to spraying. At 26 to 29 psi with that hvlp gun you will save a lot of sanding before buffing to get rid of orange peel. You will get less orange peel using the higher pressures. Especially clear coat you could bump it to 30 to 32 and try it to get a flatter finish less orange peel.
I watched a lot of your videos and I want to ask your advice on painting my truck. It’s a 86 square body it was painted some time ago and it has a color change. The body in pretty good shape maybe half dozen door dings, and the clear coat is flaking off. Can I sand the truck and get all the clear coat off with 220 grit and then with 320 and wet sand with 400 and then spray a primer sealer and then a base coat and clear. It’s a daily driver I’m not looking for a show paint job I want it look decent.,Do you agree with what I want to do or do I need to go a different route. Thanks for you help.
Yea, that's exactly how I would go about it! 👍
if you do bodywork, where you have to use body filler.. I would use high build on those areas only, no need to spray high build over the whole truck.
Sealer gets everything one solid color and creates a bond between the old paint and new. Good idea to use sealer!
Grits are right, also. 400 is last grit you want to use before spraying! 600-800grits are more for blending and 1000 & higher are finishing
Sounds like you got this in the bag. Good luck with your project 😎🙌
@@GTsPerformance thanks for the advice it means a lot.
I got one of your decals from forever ago. Also like the paint kit giveaway idea
I want a decal.
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I been watching your videos I finally sprayed my car I used a high build primer with a 1.7 tip I notice it feels like 80 grit after I spraye. is that normal or what do u think went wrong?
Your tip
More pressure at the gun like 25 psi will give you less orange peel.
Agreed also helps to run high flow fittings
HVLP is an air hog lol. I use a conventional cap for base and LVLP cap for my clear coat gun. My wall setting is 80 using all high flow fittings 25' air hose
Try the pps system from harbor freight. I have been using that system trouble free going on two years now. There very low cost.
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have you tried opening the air valve on your gun all the way? Not fluid, not fan, air valve. Most modern guns have them on the bottom, not top.
You got tooo many regulators goin on. Set it at 100 at the compressor then you can play with it at the gun. That middle one off the wall is choking your air supply. Just my opinion
I'll remove it soon.. I'm not liking it either! 👍
I run 2 regulators and have no issues, I have a similar compressor plus a 20 gallon reserve. I run my main line a 150, the I have a dump into a separate water separator/ regulator for my spray gun. It took a while to dial it in.
1 think I do know it that the harbor freight gauge is in accurate. At least mine is off by 12-15 psi. I switched to a digital regulator at my gun. I didn't like it as first, but is solved a lot of my issues I had in inconsistencies.
Yes bro, do a giveaway.
Nice
What's up bro. I watch all your videos. I would love to win a giveaway but in my personal opinion giveaways don't work. I use to do them all the time on my channel and I never seen growth from them. But gaining entry's from buying the vinyl is a good idea. Atkeast you won't have random people popping in on your giveaway just trying to get somthing free. I painted my own car a few months ago and now I have several folks wanting paint. Keep the videos coming bro
Thanks bro! My videos are supposed to be For DIY'ers,.. so people can learn and want to try taking on their project themselves.. but I understand if people don't feel fully confident in taking on a full paint project. Even $400 for a paint kit is a lot of money for someone to just throw away if you don't know what you're doing. But, if someone were to win a paint kit.. then they won't lose, just gain the experience! Just my opinion!
I was only thinking of doing 100 entries, so chances of winning are 1 out of 100 at minimum. I personally don't enter giveaways that have endless entries.. feels like chances are 1 in a million! 😮💨
that is actually an AIR FLOW regulator not a air pressure regulator i had the same fight in my head. my compressor is set to shut off at 150 psi, the regulator out of the compressor is set to 90 psi and i have a walcom membrane digital regulator at my gun set to whatever will be my spraying pressure. 22-29 psi (whatever you like) then i use the airflow control valve on the spraygun itself if i want a little less air flow (but i never mess with that), using the walcom regulator at the gun helps even out the pressure fluctuations in the line caused by the compressor going between its turn on and shut off pressures. im not sure if the walcom membrane regulator is something special or if its just a regular ole diaghragm regulator, i could not figure out if its just a wording they use and diaphragm is the same thing as membrane, so i bought the walcom, expensive but still great quality stuff . and my pressure stays within 1-2 psi at the gun when the gauge on the compressor goes to down to 90 turns on then shuts off at 150, with an air FLOW regulator like what you have i the video, the line pressure fluctuation will be quite a bit more .
WRONG. Its a pressure regulator. Thats why it says PSI. If it was a flow regulator it would say CFM. You have no clue what you're talking about.
@@SOLDOZER ok
@@SOLDOZER WRONG....do a little research on the the design of the "regulator" that comes on a paint gun, and youll see that its not a pressure regulator, its a valve.. its painfully obvious. the reason you get a pressure reading is because the orifice at the tip is creating backpressure, but its not a pressure regulator, it has no diaphragm in it, it is simply a valve opening and closing to allow and restrict the amount air that can flow past it based on how open or closed it is. your the clueless on boss. do some research, leave the ego out of it and youll see your wrong. i admire your passionate response but its wrong th-cam.com/video/vIa1f29hqFk/w-d-xo.html
@@mr1hander Ive been a welder for 32 years. I know the difference between PSI and CFM. You, do not.
@@SOLDOZER i know the difference too, i have not been welding as long as you have (a measly 12 years) but i do know the difference, look at the design of the "regulator" on a paint gun. and you will see that it is not a pressure regulator.