I think we have two problems here. One is the one highlighted in this video, second is we are expected to have too many sets. I will die on this hill but needing 5+ sets just to be ready for any PvE content is ass design. They created the problem, sold the solution.
Ward sets are and will stay the biggest blunder of this game even if they bring back machine gun muskets and paladin builds that cannot die. Hard agree.
Exactly. Gearsets are a QoL feature in many MMOs and they're not monetized like they are in New World... while also not needing as many gearsets. This is purely a desperate cash grab and will be terrible if implemented. This is only a problem that is going to get worse; they're adding gearsets at the same time they're adding another ward and an expedition that will require it.
I completely agree. It's hard enough for mmo companies to keep a large player base and for them to do something that they KNOW will annoy a large percentage of that population is foolhardy. Most breakups are caused by minor annoyances piling up. Looking for a quick cash grab isn't going to sit well with players that have been putting up with alot of other issues.
Completely disagree. If you've played the ptr and are past the level of ouuu shiny legendary then yk this shit is at best mid ward gear. Boosters, ive been looking for and 3 gear slots is more than enough. Im fine with changes
@@03commando41 That's fine but you must realize that many people don't have the disposable income to be paying extra for something they are fixing. If they provided a reasonable amount and charged after that it would be easier to stomach but 3 is pitiful compared to the amount of sets that the game requires you to use. My point is those people who cannot afford to pay it will become more and more frustrated. I am sure they take in quite abit of revenue from other sources and more incoming from the game pass. Alienating poorer players isn't a smart business model if you want to maximise your player numbers.
@@kaleb5926 You do realize that there are many players especially in the fresh start servers that are still building up their sets? So comparing them to yourself or players in legacy servers isn't a good idea.
I have corrupted, lost, angry earth, and ancient for heals and tank 8. Group heals and aoe heals PvP 2. Acid set, luck set to make 12 total. And I don’t craft or refine… I knew this was going to be awful the moment they mentioned it as a season reward in their podcast thing. Instantly understood that to mean “we’re not being given enough”
bro you can change sets in the loadout you arent going to need every gear set every week so just put up the ones for the mutated rotations, people crying about this is a mistake. 3 sets for free is plenty if you know how to use them right, yes it wont be as convenient as having 10 but it's still better than 0. and at least they added the function of being able to buy more in no way is this pay to win its pay for convenience but you have been playing 2 years without it so it could be worse.
@@cd9620 did i say pay to win? i dont craft or refine and this isnt enough, i tank and heal expeditions every week- not just mutated, i pvp group and aoe heal, i run acid chests, and luck gear would be nice for overworld- but i havent bothered with in forever bc switching is such a damn hassle and this is an essential feature for a game that relies on changing gear. Cope more bud...
I think it would be better to make additional gear set slots done through some sort of questing. You would think the addition of a season pass would be enough revenue to continue to pay the development team to improve and add new content to the game
I agree, give me a challenge, quest, task, something that allows me to unlock more. Hell make it a gold sink! Given the amount of different gear sets i need to swap between this is entirely too much! I'm assuming this is gonna cost me like $50 just to swap my gear more easily. In the end i think its going to do way more harm than good.
Honestly the system looks amazing, 10 free gear sets sounds great! Then add a cost of maybe 5 bucks for additional gearsets for those that need them. But 7 or 10 would be a better start then 3.
also completely agree... this is something that 100% should be PART of the game and not monetized in any shape or form. AGS creates a game with multiple types of gear sets and no option of sorting them efficiently and then adds in ONLY 2-3 gear set load outs... they take one step forward with adding the feature and a hundred steps backwards with the implementation of it. If this goes live this way I will be thoroughly disappointed.
100% agree. Maybe I'd be happy with 10 as a base. That still isn't enough for all the sets that are needed but would seem somewhat more fair. 3 sets is ridiculous! 🤣
Since the Inventory (not to mention the STORAGES) itself is somewhat of a mess and hard to manage, this solution would somewhat work.. but yes, 10 gear sets should be minimum for us free players (that obv. have paid for the game and make up for the entire player base..)
I am so glad you did this video Baggins ! I share the same thoughts on this. I have been waiting hard for this feature that would have been normal being in the game since launch and now that they finally bring it you have to pay for it ... Pretty ridiculous. Also, if we want to go further on amazon's ears, i think we should ask them to save attributes and skill perks for each gearset. That would make sense and i am sure you would share that idea cause i see you switching a lot between AOE healings/target healings or void blade/support vg etc .. I don't understand why it's not in gearset storage this would make more sense.
I have a sinking feeling. It's not like they accidentally did this. That decision would have been the hard hurdle and now it's done for them? -they'll be rolling PTW out in other ways -no doubt following player suggestions again like golden crumbs for cash injection. The odds of the game surviving this great 2023 game release year was ... already tricky - and either they've given up and are milking the cow to death before it naturally dies, or they're really out of touch.
For the gear set amount I think 7 is an acceptable minimal amount. 5 for wards (including the new human ward) and 2 for your focused crafting profession. 3 is really underwhelming, I hope they can add it more before release.
I agree 100% baggins... I was really hoping that we would get like 2 or 3 free opening for gear set storage and then it was a craft able bag of some sorts. I'm sad about this 😭😭😭😭
I really saw the the potential in this game in the beginning, but the company totally f*ed the whole thing up in all ways possible For me the only way to get rid of incompetent companies like that is to ignore their products in the future
I hope they see the dissatisfaction with the amount of slots. I think 5 to start, unlock 5 more from season pass (1/20 lvls). Then those who wish to have more can buy 1 for like 2.99 or something lol I also think we should be able to keep our refining and crafting gear at their respective stations...if that makes sense?
The only saving grace is that presumably we'll be able to unlock more gear sets through the season pass, and we get to keep them between seasons. So in a year's time we might actually have a tolerable number of gear sets available. Though I expect Amazon to cave and give us a little bit more for free, hopefully 5. That I can live with.
5 still isn’t even enough. You have wood working, smelting, leather working, weaving, and stone cutting. That’s 5 sets right there. You have lost, corrupted, ancient, angry earth. That’s 4 more. Now you have PvP. That’s 10. This is ONLY if you play ONE build. I play dex, str, int, and multiple builds of each. I’d need at least 15 sets. Three?!?!? Come on…
@@zargisan9017 Most people don't have 1000 hours into the game, and maxed every profession, m10 ward sets for every type, luck sets, etc. That's why I say 5 sets is sufficient. Also keep in mind gear sets function as a seperate inventory. Nothing prevents you from storing some sets like leatherworkng in your inventory as you've done thus far. Then all you need to do is shift + click 5 times and you're done. In a much less crowded inventory not filled with 15 sets, that's managable.
I am all for at least 10 or 15 with the amount of gears needed to even do some content, heck most of the new dungeons have two type of enemies on them and its frustrating to swap in between with the persisting "In combat" for 30+ secs. If they do add it, its good to tie them to quests and not just give them away. I agree with your view on this, don't sell solutions, they should just sell something to support/add to the solution.
i understand why eveeyone is upset but it also doesnt make sense to give everyone unlimited storage sets. storage sets should be purchasable by an in game currency, and since the marks are obtainable for free in the season pass, u could buy more storage by grinding the pass. I understand its not convienient but not many players have more than a couple sets so 4 sets should be enough for most people. On the other hand, vets have so many sets and it is frustrating. I like the idea of purchasable slpts but they should consider making them a gold sync. Other than trading post, gold is not smth the game really requires. This would be a good start. Make each slot cost more the more you buy. AND, if you wanna pass on spending gold, you can purchase with the marks or real money! Hope this is smth they consider!
I completely agree. This is a tone-deaf greedy move on AGS's part. Also, technically you are paying for more storage. The gearsets take away weight from inventory.
This is probably the one thing that i find a massive L on the teams parts, everything else i've happily went with, took it on the chin that its not for me or accepted that somethings just wont be favourite. But the limited slots and the additional through the pass is really really poor
Yeah I generally keep it pretty positive on my look on New World, and forgive a lot of the games shortcomings. But this is just kinda sucky. Especially since this game patch introduces ANOTHER set of Ward/Bane gear for the new dungeon.
@@BagginsTV I love the game, but i genuinely dont partake in a lot of content on a regular basis due to the all the sets. first 6 month swappig through all the sets to farm and then craft & onto a dungeon or two and finally PVP, then second 6 month i dropped to having set days where i'd just chop trees and craft at the woodcutting hut with a dungeon and pvp and the following day mining/smelt/duneon/pvp and so and so on. and now at this stage in the game i just forego collecting & crafting to just grab an opr / arena. as i just cannot do the set swapping now. This was what i thought was the turning point and get right back into blasting through content and spending additional time ingame daily
Im with invz3332 Selling us solutions is absolute ass. And I am also with you Baggins At LEAST 10 free slots. IF they are going to have us pay, have us pay with IN GAME currency. Ill spend in game gold all day long, and I do. I have all but retired this game at this point tbh after this round of PTR testing. On my live game, I do my daily chest runs, my daily acid chest runs, make my daily cool downs and bank them, and run the "new event" for my daily reward. I have stopped running dungeons (they are so boring and repetitive) but the gear swapping for different classes-for different dungeon types is just too much of a pain and makes it where I just dont even want to bother (I dont run just 1 class type) I even tried to keep sets together in my inventory and use jewelry to separate them to make it easier. But every time I go out and then later go back in to my inventory, its all mixed up again. It doesn't save it. If it at LEAST did that, it wouldn't be so bad. I have a tank -constitution set for each mob type, a strength set, a focus set for each mob type, a strength-dex set for each mob type, a dex set for each mob type and an intelligence set for each mob type. Angry Earth Ward, Lost Ward, Corrupted Ward, Ancient Ward (I even have a Beast Ward set) because I wanted to be ready for the worm boss (then found out its listed as Angry Earth) Lol So 6 sets of gear, jewelry and weapons times 5 different Ward types is 30 sets of armor, jewelry, weapons. Plus protection amulets for each of those sets for each of the dungeon damage type currently (and 2 looking at the future may be) arcana and lightning. So I have Fire, Ice, Nature, Void, Arcana, and Lightning protection amulets for all 6 classes. (so 36 amulets) Plus my luck gear and acid gear sets. I am 200 plus in all of my life skills and have all of the life skill armor sets and all of the major trophies for all of the life skills that have a trophy I dont carry those armors on me, so I am not concerned to have those as gear set slots. When I need to use them, I just pull them out of my locker and swap between them while Im doing each station. I do the same with like harvesting, mining, fishing, etc So yea, while new players will think this is great, us veterans that have been playing since Beta and have all of our stuff maxed out and have all of these sets, its really slap in the face and a real shit move from the game.
I just don't understand why Amazon aren't using a subscription model. all successful MMOs utilise a subscription model. if you are subscribed you get full slots, if you aren't you should have 4x slots for the 4x enemy types. the season pass could have been the solution to that, get extra slots if you purchase a pass, if you don't then you get 4x slots. real missed opportunity I believe. the truth is the game is a business, its about how you go about the business
It's starting to look like Path Of Exile or Black Desert Online. The developers tell us in plain text: - You will have to pay for convenience! I just hope that additional slots will be sold at a reasonable price.
I think the XP Boosts are fine, Leveling Boosts are fine. Getting levelled up in new world doesnt really mean much. I do think they need more free gearset slots though.
I agree, but for a $40 game that I have 1,600+ hours in, I don't know how they can continue to provide servers and updates without charging for something. All I hope for is that they are like $2 each and they go towards them being able to make more content faster. Still better than paying a monthly subscription. I don't know what side to really stand on here.
You're forgetting about the $75 they charge for folks to get skins and crap. Yea I know, not every one pays... but I'm sure there is a fair number of folks that do. IE Omens right now is 25,000 marks. Meaning if I am at 0 marks, I need to spend $35 to get 35,000 marks. I totally understand monetizing the skins. They have zero impact on gameplay and are 100% optional. Gear sets on the other hand are serious QoL issue that the game has been needing since launch. Gear sets in my opinion have an impact on overall gameplay. I can enjoy the game much more and spend the limited time I have to play the game actually playing the game instead of sorting through gear for an hour just to get my refining done.
@@networkl00p I mean to play devils advocate, we have all been playing the game without them. I have like 20 sets of gear so obviously 3 free sucks but idk. I don’t want the game to die if they need the monetization that bad. You don’t need gear set storage, we all just want it.
I agree . I mean people are getting 3 for free and more than likely more in future seasons . For the $40 price for the game people get 1000+ hours on gameplay . If you go watch a movie at imax or theatre there gos $40 and it’s 1.5 hours worth of content. I think some people are so tied up in wanting and needing things for free they forget new world is a business model and requires monetisation on different features to stay afloat
This is NOT where you make your cash grab. You get paid when you have CONTENT that people want to play so bad they’ll pay for it. NOT QOL features… holy shat!
I have spent a LOT on skins in this game but asking for money for something that should have been somewhat of a fix feels so wrong, it makes me wanna quit.
They tried to pull a Path of Exile on us but instead pulled a Gamigo. It would have been better to give us all something like 50 free slots and THEN ask us to pay for extra ones alongside maybe a few bells and whistles when it comes to customizing those slots.
The age old create a problem to sell a solution. Predatory monetization. Good on you for releasing a video contesting them on it. If we let companies continue to do shady monetization, they will never build a game that is truly good and will just build a framework for monetization methods.
I think the biggest issue is the bane/ward perks. Less loadouts would be fine if it was a QoL but those perks make that complicated, IMO they should make a new gear slot with the functionality of bane/ward that you keep upgrading per type that way its 1 item per type of perk instead of an entire set.
Fully agree with you Baggins, this is pretty unacceptable imo. Players waiting over a year for this feature and we get 2-3 slots and have to buy additional slots for real life currency. Create a problem and sell the solution I guess….
Let me get this straight. Amazon creates gearsets (crafting, refining, ward, PvP) something that has been tedious from day one; and what is their solution?! For us to pay for the fix to a problem they created?! LMFAO sure Amazon.
Are they adding a system to save your weapon talent point allocation(build storage). It's annoying having to respec everytime I switch from tank to dps
Making players pay for quality of life features is very much taking the “let me create a problem so that I can sell you the solution” approach to developing the game. Huge letdown.
Completely agree. Here's hoping they watch this video, wake up to real life and launch the feature with a reasonable amount of gear set slots WITH NO COST. Personally, this feature is going to be a make-or-break deal for me with New World, from someone who's been playing from day 1. I've had enough.
Agreed lol. 6k hours over 50 gear sets accumulated from full bis pvp sets to pve sets, all different weight classes and they want to give us 2 free sets LOL. slap in the face and to that Ags, F you with biggest F ever. Been ready to uninstall 2k hours ago, straw is getting worn down and the time will eventually come. Like god forbid they’ve screwed the players for a year, now let’s milk the hell out of the loyal players left😂
Honestly I see nothing wrong with this. While we want the game to progress and continue development, we have to remember that this is not a subscription game, nor is this particular function p2w. I can live with this.
A season pass with boost ect might as well be a subscription, if you wanna keep up you gonna have to pay up. Forcing us to pay for a QOL feature that should've been in the game many months ago on top of a season pass is just bullshit. Imo they are just milking the remaining players dry.
It makes zero sense that you have to pay for gear sets. Technically you can make gear sets in your storage shed, however gearsets help for being on the go. This is a very greedy move from Amazon, and it doesn't bide well with the dedicated player base. Considering there's now a season pass as well. I would be okay with having gear sets being unlocked through the season pass, at least 5-10 though. This is a feature 90% of New World players thought would be free. They should listen to the community on this one, because this is exactly how your game will get negative reviews on Steam. MMO's require the player to put time and effort into getting EARNED rewards. Feels like they're throwing dirt in our eyes. If there's gear set purchase tiers, it's kinda saddening. I can see the developers removing it, and there's still time for them to do so. I'm not saying it's the end of the world, it's just about having decent values so that the game moving forward can be the best it can be.
Hmmm do you think you will be able to buy so many in the shop? It seems like to me that this will be more like a long lasting system, where you unlock one in each season and maybe buy one every season. And I guess it is still not a good thing, but mmos selling quality of life stuff or pay for convenience, that haa always been the case, right?
Takes them so long to make it and then it is required to pay for more than 3 slots?!? I don't think I described anything as outrageous before... It's beyond stupid and assholish tbh.
I can understand the frustration, but imo the real true issue is that stats isn't included in the gear set. Gearset shouldn't exist to begin with, it should be replaced with build templates which would include gear sets, stats eg: str con point allocation, weapon skills. Because now when I switch gear I still have to pay 200gold and change my stats every gear set loadout change.
Just getting back to the game after 1 year and I was happy to here they were adding gear sets. Unfortunately when I heard they were only giving us 2 and then locking the rest away behind a battle pass is kind of a dick move but at the same time AGS could be subscription based like other MMO's. I came from FF14 which is subscription based and they give you 45 gear slots which is plenty. 2 slots is a joke and only gives you the option to make loadouts between 2 roles like a dps/tank but otherwise your still stuck with the process of moving your gear around for 3 minutes for the rest of your needs. I really hope they listen to the player base and fix this.
I really don't understand why so many mmo companies thinks this is the feature set to monetize. This game already has a shit ton of sets with a constant need to switch gear. Its worse than just about any other any mmo I've played. The existing nonsense might have been reasonable, if there was a feature to easily create and switch builds. But nope that's not free... its not even free with a sub. Its pay per use. So so so disappointing.
personally i agree completely with the season pass so far as they dont make op gear locked behind it. But this is truly next level and as you said very disappointing, i just hope they change there mind or at the very least make this a one time thing as if they keep making simple quality of life systems put behind a pay wall then the game will die as players will get sick of it.
Question baggins what's you expectations for switch between all 10 sets of gear, maybe we can have two sets live but all gear in sets. 30. We secs before you can move to third set
Totally agree. We give them ideas to solve problems in the game and they ask for money to use it. And they are surprised when people are leaving the game. Cheap.
The Attribute and Weapon Skills should be part of the loadout system. I can't tell from your screenshots or video, but I am guessing that neither of those are part of the saved loadout. Some examples: I want to be able to switch out my Lifestaff/Void Gauntlet skills and attritube distribution based on PVE and PVP using loadouts. Similar Healer vs DPS or Tank vs DPS using the same weapon would likely require a different set of weapon skills. Without this, the loadouts are missing on full effectiveness.
this should be like monster hunter world, there you have 100 loadouts for free. new world isnt like other mmos where you only use 2 to 5 sets for everything, you need like 5 sets for pve and 1 or 2 for pvp, and thats only for 1 "class", if you want to switch then another 7 slots for that class and so on
It really feels like they created so many items to only sell a way to acquire gear storage. I feel betrayed as i considered this as a game issue to be corrected in an upcomming patch.
I agree entirely unless they do something like 10 permanent gear set slots for 5$. I’ve seen other F2P MMOs sell permanent QoL features for small amounts and it works out. Things like gear sets, removed/lowered taxes on an auction house, character slots, fast travel being free etc. I think it would be best for them to include an additional 5 gear sets for everyone who gets a season pass, for a total of 8. Then have them available in the shop for 1$/slot. I bet most of the player-base would reluctant drop cash if they were cheap. 3 is too low. But it’s better than nothing.
Thank you for highlighting this. The gear set system they’ve come up with seems really really great. The only thing missing is to also change attribute points but with this system we’re way better off already. When you design your game with gear as a focal point and something players grind for, this kind of system is necessary. They’ve built expeditions that require multiple gear changes during the run, which added a cool dynamic, but made the pain point worse. The feature was well designed. Limiting to 3 free is ridiculously low, and kind of insulting. Even if you set aside the refining and crafting and gathering sets, which are a bit easier to equip - you can search for them by name and quickly equip them - I can easily count 20-25 gear sets I regularly use, and a handful more that I have as well. They need to get this right. We’ve stuck by waiting for this kind of promised QoL solution; don’t punish us for playing the game. There’s money to be made on the battle pass and transmog and other things.
You couldn’t have said that any better! I have 4K hours but I’ll drop this game in a second if they make quality of life improvements cost real money. So scummy
For me, I don't think this is great but it's not as bad as paying and getting extra legendary items and materials. This isn't really play power, so while I am against paying for convenience, I think I've been beaten down with it enough that I don't care that much.
Hello, I totally agree with Baggins, this is not going well. It is just not right to make such QoL feature and lock it behind payment... I am so annoyed of the fact that I have to farm so much different type of sets and in addition the time which you spent to equip it and maintain all of them. This QoL feature was supposed to come much earlier into the game. And now when it is going to happen - you get only 2 sets and 1 additional which is farmable and it is farmable only during season 1? This is so wrong... Add additional slots as a reward from some achievements, add it as an event rewards... Even you may add them as an item in the faction stores. Add quest chains with some interesting story and at the end to receive a slot as a reward... There so much other things to make the unlocking of additional slots much better and smarter... What a shame. I am starting to be worried for the transmog system... Feels like more features will be implemented like that - you need to pay for it...
Good take. I could almost get behind charging for extra slots if the free option would at least cover the majority of the set required to play the game. At base we should at least get enough free slots to cover every bane, plus another 3-5 free for players to use as they please, if not more. Not everyone participates in every crafting/refining skill plus pve and pvp with multiple builds. So make the cap something stupid like 50 slots, but give us like 25 free and people can buy the remainder if they truly need that many more.
overall I think the system is great and even them pay walling isn't the worst its simply that they only give 3 for free. Like you said it need to be pushed WAY up. Even for a casual player the game is designed for you to collect and use different sets and the number of free sets should reflect that a little more reasonably. I mean as a casual player I have found crafting sets pointless as I am not going to waste a chunk of my play time swapping sets everytime I see a resource I need, so I just collect in my standard gear. Game Design Dungeon Roles (Tank, Healer, DPS) Ward Sets Gathering Sets Crafting Sets
The new seasonal model etc is the same as "Fortnight" and "Destiny 2" which is designed to be a "Loot Boxe" opener with high hints to go to the online store to purchase additional items.
I agree 100%. Three gear sets is far too few. They need to increase the base amount significantly before they even consider monetizing this feature. In principle I’m against monetizing solutions to problems they’ve created within the game.
honestly I think that approach is fine as long as the prices for upgrades stay fair & they increase the starting number to like 5 or 10. I'd be absolutely fine with having 5 from the start & paying 500marks of fortune for each additional since you'll get 2,5k marks in the free pass anyways. While I understand the frustration of players that play multiple dungeons & multiple roles throughout the day and would like to use this for refining/trade skills in general I don't think that's AGS' vision for this.
i just quit yesterday, this was my main game and then "boost tokens" + this came out and people want to say this is how they have to make money. well I wish they said this in the first place because I would of never started playing. How about make a solid game and people will buy your skins.
I think in SWTOR there are 10 loadouts but not sure if it's only for sub players. At very least I think buying battlepass should enable all slots for one month and then should exist some cheap slots (like for 1k) in the shop if someone don't want to pay for the pass.
There are currently like 6 differed wards for pvE (ancient, angry earth, beast, corrupted, human, lost), 7 crafting sets, 5 refining sets, 5 gathering sets, and then your luck set. That is 24 sets if you want to do everything excluding pvp..... this is for a quality of life change that should have been in the game from the beginning... and this also is only taking into account that you are only playing one role in PVE for each ward type. Three is a pathetic number by their own game design.
Paying for QoL is a hard NO. Baggins, we should not have to pay for ANY beyond 10 or not. There are FREE addons not even created by the devs, by freelance creators that fulfill these tasks in other games. ESO has a great one, alphagear or something. WoW with outfitter, etc. I refuse to pay ANY money for any QoL in any game.
The purchasable amount will be heavily limited and increased over time with the primary way still being the seasonal participation which is a voluntary form of subscription. The fact that this is a pay to own game until expansions come out with an optional season pass is a perfect display of good faith while still dealing with the pan-handling side of the community.
IMO.. its not that big deal (maybe because I'm new to this game, and doesn't meet complex situation yet) since we can still probably change the gear manually without it. Also I think its a common thing in MMORPG, especially the game that doesn't have monthly subscribes to monetize something for convenience things, aslong it doesn't count as pay to win. Well, it just my opinon tho.. feel free to correct me, since I'm new player from SEA and just been playing this game like 40 hours
Unless they backtrack on this in a major way, I will not be coming back to the game. Haven't played seriously in over a month due to content drought. Now I wonder if I ever will, its sad to say and even more sad that I'm not surprised. L Amazon.
I would personally be ok with it if each season going forward there is one available in the free track but if you want more immediately then you have to buy it.
I don't really thing this is that big of a deal, for the average player. I swap between 2 sets as PvE, my full luck gear & the mutated dungeon gear im using for that week. Tradeskill armor is not a problem to equip as you can search it easy..
I will be shocked if they let the system go live in this state. Gear loadouts should be tied to activities in game. Dungeons/Outpost Rush/Invasions/Arena/Quests/Farming/Crafting. They have a perfect opportunity here to put that carrot on a stick to encourage all aspects of the game.
Yep. If it was (say) ten sets, and then the ability to unlock more for free (by playing the game, which should be a high priority for AGS - keep the player base) and _then_ allow purchasing more. Or maybe even, keep what they have got, but a new slot costs 500 marks. So with the marks you get from the free track you can buy another 4. Then next season you can buy some more. It's the fact that they have made is so laughabley small that just makes it feel greedy.
so they added new ward/bane into game along with a preset feature, which should have been implemented from the beginning. There is already too much mess with all the wards and all, storages and inventory is just cluttered and takes so much time sort everything. It was running simulator at the beginning, now it is inventory/storage cleaning/sorting simulator.
This game actually blows idky you play it. We paid 40 dollars for the game. It had so much hype but lacked so much content and quality-of-life features. They lost pretty much 80% of pop. They finally start to fix the issues and release new content, they get a lot of players playing again then completely go to shit again. Adding a battle pass onto a game we paid for is whatever but the fact it's gonna make the game pay to win with boosts and gifting legendary gear instead of grinding and crafting it is so weird. There adding this feature that helps the game out so much behind a paywall. I saw mounts are coming as well which is gonna be another thing they make us pay for to use. The Game needs CONTENT!!!!! Needs to have a new market. Let us be able to sell everything, Get rid of this bind to character shit. Make an Open world PVP zone where you risk all your loot you have on. Make Boss drops way harder. 1-5000 odds to get a drop not 1/2 kills I get the item I'm looking for with luck gear. I want this game to be good but there is no point to keep playing. I have the best gear I can get there is no point in farming bosses, no point in crafting gear to sell bc ill never need anything to buy bc I have the best stuff I can have in slot for my character.
Sure allow people to buy them but they need to increase the free base amount and also give many more options for players to earn them; questing, faction rewards, events, rare item drops, additional reward tracks from seasons... etc etc. It is like they underestimate just how many gear set loadouts players would want. Charging for QoL improvements seems shady, at least need many more ways to earn additional set slots.
I agree, if they can give us 3 gear slots, why not give us 10? Doesnt cost them more and makes the game more enjoyable, may help to bring players back. This is a UI improvement and makes swapping sets more convenient, the sort of thing which other MMOs implemented 5-10 years ago. Im fine to pay a sub for content, but i dont think features which arguably should have been implemented earlier should be part of that, im a casual player and probably change sets around 10-15 times per day, I cant imagine what it must be like for more serious players. Charging for this will create resentment towards a game which is already struggling to retain its playerbase. Next theyll be charging money to raise the gold cap another 100k.
3 SLOTS??? I need like 15 AT LEAST. I have every ward for every class. That’s 3 roles + multiple dps wards. So that there is 15. Plus I have multiple PvP sets (5 at least). Now you have all your crafting gear (I have 2). I would need over 20 slots! That is such a low move to monetize that because the gear set is nothing more than an organized list. For an mmo with a “equip your role” model, load-out slots should have been a thing AT LAUNCH. Bad move AGS! 😡
Bad take on it bud but its probably the example you are using. 3 fast travels, for sure, def an uproar. But 3 free gear sets arent on the same level. Amazon is giving a gift with it being 3 for free. Now understand, I come from DCUO and they give you 1 Free gear set in their system called Armory. 1. You have to pay to get more which are about 5 bucks without the sales. Here with it being 3, I couldnt be so happy for that decision. Maybe a little iffy on the 1 free tied to a Season Pass cause I worry about others like in Season 2 and onwards. Amazon is giving us the ability to have a gear set for Tank, DPS, and Healer. Or drop one of those and swap it for a PVP set or leveling set. This system is always tied to the MP which isnt a bad thing, depending on the cost. There will be plenty of players Im sure that will be fine with 3, including myself. Others, like yourself and many here, thats too small. Well, business gotta make money and I for sure am wanting to see the price cause this kind of thing needs be lower than 10 dollars, hell 5 dollars Max. Its definitely a money maker. Please be upset, you never know maybe they'll give 5 or maybe the 10 everyone wants. But take it from someone who lives in this system already, 3 is a blessing and 10 years later in DCUO from when they launched the system, they still give us only 1 free Armory. Amazon is going good with this choice....so far...better not be some expensive price tag lol
At the very least, if you have 5 tanning set or 5 smelting, 5 weaving the buffs should be auto equipt. they are on a knife edge with this shit and craping on loyal fans. new players won care or understand till end game, then feel shit on. shameless money grab, off their stable playerbase
I stopped playing for a while now, I check up to see if anything worth returning. The inventory system doesn't hinder the gameplay, you've played it this entire time witout it and the provide you with 3 slots. You can easily have main, sub. craft gear. You want more pay for it, I think that's fair. Comparing it to fast shrines is a completely different feature. You can only play 2 weapons at max, maybe you have one set that caters to the main and the other that caters to the secondary. But being locked out of a teleport or map location blocks players from an experience that other players cant have. Ive played games where battle pass players can teleport anywhere on the map. verse non holders have maps where only shrines are located after you visited the area on foot. now that was a hinderance. But the ability to quick swap armor sets have never made the gameplay harder. or inconvenient. Maybe if theres some PVP aspect. like a player can put on armor in between attacks. with different perks which I doubt. New World has a crafting system, where you can Create Dye, to color your armor, that doesnt work on the cosmetics you pay for, and thought you can craft over 100 dyes, you cant craft black you have to pay for that.
I completly agree White u....i stop playing when void gauntlet come whit 1200h.....but i would give It another try and i like how game evolve..... But this kind of stuff like bots,Gold Sellers and this type of monetización really suck
A really cool idea they could implement is the legendary armory. Similar to Guild Wars 2, where you have to do a bunch of stuff before getting each piece of the legendary gear, but when you do, you can place the armor in any character, with any stat ( in new world's case that would be perks) and you could even implement a legendary gem system, where it's basically the same thing but for gems on the said armor
if it was free to play game it will be ok, but i already buy it, and i want to donate, but i can't do this bc NW is banned for my country right now (i'm from Russia). I think it will be better if we can have slots for our prof gear and slots for any role, as dps, tank, heal, mb for luck set. It will be more interesting, if we have 2 slots at the start, and for more slots we need to craft some items, whitch have a story line like azoth staff and at the end we have Woodworking, Smelting, Stonecutting, Tanner, Cooking, Armoring, Jewelcrafting, Weaponsmithing, Enjeneering, Weawing, Arcana, Dps, Tank, Heal and mb one or two more. It wiil be much but very comfortable to play. Sorry for my english btw.
Im totally okay with the idea of paying for extras, im okay with 3 free ones. Like I got gears for pvp from wars, duels, opr… I got pver sets and if you’re organized with the storages you shouldn’t even complain honestly. We want content but let’s be honest they’re not making money outta new world and yes is a billionaire company but that doesn’t mean they give them a budget. They have said it before they’re loosing money and yet they didn’t give up with the game. So just take the 3 free slots if you don’t wanna pay and be glad you have em.
@@ans1l71 listen my guy how many new players are we getting every month? Pretty much non. Skins? Well that’s debatable but let’s be honest how many people you see buying the new skins? I rarely see anyone using them and I play on CoS, but hey g is my opinion. I personally never felt like gears were an issue because I’m organized, and if I wanna get more slots I’ll happily buy em but if you wanna complain about it go ahead gang
I agree to a point. I think 3 is too few. But I think there is a balance here thats possible. Both in terms of monitization and players who just dont want to pay for them. I think perhaps 2 free slots or as many as 10 you want if you opt into the season pass every 3 months, with potentially more slots purchasable. The fast travel argument is not a fair representation as gear set storages are in theory completely optional part of the game. Walking is not. You need to walk around the map to play the game. The same is not to be said of gear sets. Its possible to play the game completely wtihout it. However inconvient. (I suppose it is at least somewhat comparable however slight) Just my two thoughts! Agree with 3 being too few though!
Pretty stupid to add a quality of life improvment behinde a pay wall. Thats just sad. Even if it cost like 1$ per slot its pretty greedy from them. And new world shoud take care of the few players not pushing them away. Bad bad amazon.
i think it depends on how expensive is it? how many slots you gain from one purchase, like if its just like 5-10 bucks and you get 5 more slots or something its not that bad, they’re still a company that needs to make money, its greedy to expect everything to be free. like the people expecting all the expansions to be free, they gotta make money somewhere
that's total garbage being behind a paywall- it's the ONLY functional addition i was waiting to see added, and it being fully usefull is behind the paywall
Having 3 free sounds fine to me. But it would be cool if they let us buy extra with gold or pay irl. 5$ a slot or 3k gold maybe? Game needs more gold sinks anyway
I think we have two problems here. One is the one highlighted in this video, second is we are expected to have too many sets. I will die on this hill but needing 5+ sets just to be ready for any PvE content is ass design. They created the problem, sold the solution.
100%
Ward sets are and will stay the biggest blunder of this game even if they bring back machine gun muskets and paladin builds that cannot die. Hard agree.
Exactly. Gearsets are a QoL feature in many MMOs and they're not monetized like they are in New World... while also not needing as many gearsets. This is purely a desperate cash grab and will be terrible if implemented. This is only a problem that is going to get worse; they're adding gearsets at the same time they're adding another ward and an expedition that will require it.
I completely agree. It's hard enough for mmo companies to keep a large player base and for them to do something that they KNOW will annoy a large percentage of that population is foolhardy. Most breakups are caused by minor annoyances piling up. Looking for a quick cash grab isn't going to sit well with players that have been putting up with alot of other issues.
Completely disagree. If you've played the ptr and are past the level of ouuu shiny legendary then yk this shit is at best mid ward gear. Boosters, ive been looking for and 3 gear slots is more than enough. Im fine with changes
I’m happy to pay for anything they release, I’ve wanted something like this for a while as it supports the development
@@kaleb5926 Ur fine but are most players fine with it as well ? at least I'm not finally uninstalling this
@@03commando41 That's fine but you must realize that many people don't have the disposable income to be paying extra for something they are fixing. If they provided a reasonable amount and charged after that it would be easier to stomach but 3 is pitiful compared to the amount of sets that the game requires you to use. My point is those people who cannot afford to pay it will become more and more frustrated. I am sure they take in quite abit of revenue from other sources and more incoming from the game pass. Alienating poorer players isn't a smart business model if you want to maximise your player numbers.
@@kaleb5926 You do realize that there are many players especially in the fresh start servers that are still building up their sets? So comparing them to yourself or players in legacy servers isn't a good idea.
I have corrupted, lost, angry earth, and ancient for heals and tank 8. Group heals and aoe heals PvP 2. Acid set, luck set to make 12 total. And I don’t craft or refine…
I knew this was going to be awful the moment they mentioned it as a season reward in their podcast thing. Instantly understood that to mean “we’re not being given enough”
bro you can change sets in the loadout you arent going to need every gear set every week so just put up the ones for the mutated rotations, people crying about this is a mistake. 3 sets for free is plenty if you know how to use them right, yes it wont be as convenient as having 10 but it's still better than 0. and at least they added the function of being able to buy more in no way is this pay to win its pay for convenience but you have been playing 2 years without it so it could be worse.
@@cd9620 did i say pay to win? i dont craft or refine and this isnt enough, i tank and heal expeditions every week- not just mutated, i pvp group and aoe heal, i run acid chests, and luck gear would be nice for overworld- but i havent bothered with in forever bc switching is such a damn hassle and this is an essential feature for a game that relies on changing gear. Cope more bud...
I think it would be better to make additional gear set slots done through some sort of questing. You would think the addition of a season pass would be enough revenue to continue to pay the development team to improve and add new content to the game
I agree, give me a challenge, quest, task, something that allows me to unlock more. Hell make it a gold sink! Given the amount of different gear sets i need to swap between this is entirely too much! I'm assuming this is gonna cost me like $50 just to swap my gear more easily. In the end i think its going to do way more harm than good.
some more "loot this here" quests lol, we need more pvp modes...
They would probably put the quest behind a paywall 😂
@@nonamename4367 I mean, I wouldn't oppose a path through PvP either! Maybe there could be multiple ways to get extra gear set slots opened up to you.
Honestly the system looks amazing, 10 free gear sets sounds great! Then add a cost of maybe 5 bucks for additional gearsets for those that need them. But 7 or 10 would be a better start then 3.
also completely agree... this is something that 100% should be PART of the game and not monetized in any shape or form. AGS creates a game with multiple types of gear sets and no option of sorting them efficiently and then adds in ONLY 2-3 gear set load outs... they take one step forward with adding the feature and a hundred steps backwards with the implementation of it. If this goes live this way I will be thoroughly disappointed.
100% agree. Maybe I'd be happy with 10 as a base. That still isn't enough for all the sets that are needed but would seem somewhat more fair. 3 sets is ridiculous! 🤣
Since the Inventory (not to mention the STORAGES) itself is somewhat of a mess and hard to manage, this solution would somewhat work.. but yes, 10 gear sets should be minimum for us free players (that obv. have paid for the game and make up for the entire player base..)
I am so glad you did this video Baggins !
I share the same thoughts on this.
I have been waiting hard for this feature that would have been normal being in the game since launch and now that they finally bring it you have to pay for it ... Pretty ridiculous.
Also, if we want to go further on amazon's ears, i think we should ask them to save attributes and skill perks for each gearset. That would make sense and i am sure you would share that idea cause i see you switching a lot between AOE healings/target healings or void blade/support vg etc .. I don't understand why it's not in gearset storage this would make more sense.
I agree, very wild they have the balls to make us pay for the NUMBER 1 thing missing since launch that we ALL have been itching for
I have a sinking feeling. It's not like they accidentally did this. That decision would have been the hard hurdle and now it's done for them? -they'll be rolling PTW out in other ways -no doubt following player suggestions again like golden crumbs for cash injection. The odds of the game surviving this great 2023 game release year was ... already tricky - and either they've given up and are milking the cow to death before it naturally dies, or they're really out of touch.
For the gear set amount I think 7 is an acceptable minimal amount. 5 for wards (including the new human ward) and 2 for your focused crafting profession. 3 is really underwhelming, I hope they can add it more before release.
I agree 100% baggins... I was really hoping that we would get like 2 or 3 free opening for gear set storage and then it was a craft able bag of some sorts. I'm sad about this 😭😭😭😭
I really saw the the potential in this game in the beginning, but the company totally f*ed the whole thing up in all ways possible
For me the only way to get rid of incompetent companies like that is to ignore their products in the future
I hope they see the dissatisfaction with the amount of slots. I think 5 to start, unlock 5 more from season pass (1/20 lvls). Then those who wish to have more can buy 1 for like 2.99 or something lol I also think we should be able to keep our refining and crafting gear at their respective stations...if that makes sense?
The only saving grace is that presumably we'll be able to unlock more gear sets through the season pass, and we get to keep them between seasons. So in a year's time we might actually have a tolerable number of gear sets available. Though I expect Amazon to cave and give us a little bit more for free, hopefully 5. That I can live with.
5 still isn’t even enough. You have wood working, smelting, leather working, weaving, and stone cutting. That’s 5 sets right there. You have lost, corrupted, ancient, angry earth. That’s 4 more. Now you have PvP. That’s 10. This is ONLY if you play ONE build. I play dex, str, int, and multiple builds of each. I’d need at least 15 sets. Three?!?!? Come on…
Forgot to mention weaponsmithing, arcana, engineering etc… lol
@@zargisan9017 Most people don't have 1000 hours into the game, and maxed every profession, m10 ward sets for every type, luck sets, etc. That's why I say 5 sets is sufficient.
Also keep in mind gear sets function as a seperate inventory. Nothing prevents you from storing some sets like leatherworkng in your inventory as you've done thus far. Then all you need to do is shift + click 5 times and you're done. In a much less crowded inventory not filled with 15 sets, that's managable.
I am all for at least 10 or 15 with the amount of gears needed to even do some content, heck most of the new dungeons have two type of enemies on them and its frustrating to swap in between with the persisting "In combat" for 30+ secs. If they do add it, its good to tie them to quests and not just give them away. I agree with your view on this, don't sell solutions, they should just sell something to support/add to the solution.
i understand why eveeyone is upset but it also doesnt make sense to give everyone unlimited storage sets. storage sets should be purchasable by an in game currency, and since the marks are obtainable for free in the season pass, u could buy more storage by grinding the pass. I understand its not convienient but not many players have more than a couple sets so 4 sets should be enough for most people. On the other hand, vets have so many sets and it is frustrating. I like the idea of purchasable slpts but they should consider making them a gold sync. Other than trading post, gold is not smth the game really requires. This would be a good start. Make each slot cost more the more you buy. AND, if you wanna pass on spending gold, you can purchase with the marks or real money! Hope this is smth they consider!
I completely agree. This is a tone-deaf greedy move on AGS's part. Also, technically you are paying for more storage. The gearsets take away weight from inventory.
You are the only content creator addressing this issue thank you
This is probably the one thing that i find a massive L on the teams parts, everything else i've happily went with, took it on the chin that its not for me or accepted that somethings just wont be favourite. But the limited slots and the additional through the pass is really really poor
Yeah I generally keep it pretty positive on my look on New World, and forgive a lot of the games shortcomings. But this is just kinda sucky. Especially since this game patch introduces ANOTHER set of Ward/Bane gear for the new dungeon.
@@BagginsTV I love the game, but i genuinely dont partake in a lot of content on a regular basis due to the all the sets. first 6 month swappig through all the sets to farm and then craft & onto a dungeon or two and finally PVP, then second 6 month i dropped to having set days where i'd just chop trees and craft at the woodcutting hut with a dungeon and pvp and the following day mining/smelt/duneon/pvp and so and so on. and now at this stage in the game i just forego collecting & crafting to just grab an opr / arena. as i just cannot do the set swapping now. This was what i thought was the turning point and get right back into blasting through content and spending additional time ingame daily
Im with invz3332
Selling us solutions is absolute ass.
And I am also with you Baggins
At LEAST 10 free slots.
IF they are going to have us pay, have us pay with IN GAME currency.
Ill spend in game gold all day long, and I do.
I have all but retired this game at this point tbh after this round of PTR testing.
On my live game, I do my daily chest runs, my daily acid chest runs, make my daily cool downs and bank them, and run the "new event" for my daily reward.
I have stopped running dungeons (they are so boring and repetitive) but the gear swapping for different classes-for different dungeon types is just too much of a pain and makes it where I just dont even want to bother (I dont run just 1 class type)
I even tried to keep sets together in my inventory and use jewelry to separate them to make it easier.
But every time I go out and then later go back in to my inventory, its all mixed up again.
It doesn't save it.
If it at LEAST did that, it wouldn't be so bad.
I have a tank -constitution set for each mob type, a strength set, a focus set for each mob type, a strength-dex set for each mob type, a dex set for each mob type and an intelligence set for each mob type.
Angry Earth Ward, Lost Ward, Corrupted Ward, Ancient Ward (I even have a Beast Ward set) because I wanted to be ready for the worm boss (then found out its listed as Angry Earth)
Lol
So 6 sets of gear, jewelry and weapons times 5 different Ward types is 30 sets of armor, jewelry, weapons.
Plus protection amulets for each of those sets for each of the dungeon damage type currently (and 2 looking at the future may be) arcana and lightning.
So I have Fire, Ice, Nature, Void, Arcana, and Lightning protection amulets for all 6 classes. (so 36 amulets)
Plus my luck gear and acid gear sets.
I am 200 plus in all of my life skills and have all of the life skill armor sets and all of the major trophies for all of the life skills that have a trophy
I dont carry those armors on me, so I am not concerned to have those as gear set slots.
When I need to use them, I just pull them out of my locker and swap between them while Im doing each station.
I do the same with like harvesting, mining, fishing, etc
So yea, while new players will think this is great, us veterans that have been playing since Beta and have all of our stuff maxed out and have all of these sets, its really slap in the face and a real shit move from the game.
I just don't understand why Amazon aren't using a subscription model. all successful MMOs utilise a subscription model. if you are subscribed you get full slots, if you aren't you should have 4x slots for the 4x enemy types. the season pass could have been the solution to that, get extra slots if you purchase a pass, if you don't then you get 4x slots. real missed opportunity I believe. the truth is the game is a business, its about how you go about the business
It's starting to look like Path Of Exile or Black Desert Online. The developers tell us in plain text: - You will have to pay for convenience!
I just hope that additional slots will be sold at a reasonable price.
I think the XP Boosts are fine, Leveling Boosts are fine. Getting levelled up in new world doesnt really mean much. I do think they need more free gearset slots though.
There's like 22+ sets in the game. 3 slots, wtf, what a joke.
I agree, but for a $40 game that I have 1,600+ hours in, I don't know how they can continue to provide servers and updates without charging for something. All I hope for is that they are like $2 each and they go towards them being able to make more content faster. Still better than paying a monthly subscription. I don't know what side to really stand on here.
You're forgetting about the $75 they charge for folks to get skins and crap. Yea I know, not every one pays... but I'm sure there is a fair number of folks that do. IE Omens right now is 25,000 marks. Meaning if I am at 0 marks, I need to spend $35 to get 35,000 marks. I totally understand monetizing the skins. They have zero impact on gameplay and are 100% optional. Gear sets on the other hand are serious QoL issue that the game has been needing since launch. Gear sets in my opinion have an impact on overall gameplay. I can enjoy the game much more and spend the limited time I have to play the game actually playing the game instead of sorting through gear for an hour just to get my refining done.
@@networkl00p I mean to play devils advocate, we have all been playing the game without them. I have like 20 sets of gear so obviously 3 free sucks but idk. I don’t want the game to die if they need the monetization that bad. You don’t need gear set storage, we all just want it.
I agree . I mean people are getting 3 for free and more than likely more in future seasons . For the $40 price for the game people get 1000+ hours on gameplay . If you go watch a movie at imax or theatre there gos $40 and it’s 1.5 hours worth of content. I think some people are so tied up in wanting and needing things for free they forget new world is a business model and requires monetisation on different features to stay afloat
Idk maybe they could add a battle pass or something? Oh wait...
This is NOT where you make your cash grab. You get paid when you have CONTENT that people want to play so bad they’ll pay for it. NOT QOL features… holy shat!
I have spent a LOT on skins in this game but asking for money for something that should have been somewhat of a fix feels so wrong, it makes me wanna quit.
They tried to pull a Path of Exile on us but instead pulled a Gamigo.
It would have been better to give us all something like 50 free slots and THEN ask us to pay for extra ones alongside maybe a few bells and whistles when it comes to customizing those slots.
I expected it to be implemented poorly but this is worse.
The AGS special.
I HAVE ABOUT 30 SETS, WE SHOULD HAVE 10 FREE and pay for the other ones at least.
My exact feelings on the sets for money.
Either do F2P like POE. Or do seasons and expansion like destiny 2.
But doing both is super greedy.
The age old create a problem to sell a solution. Predatory monetization. Good on you for releasing a video contesting them on it. If we let companies continue to do shady monetization, they will never build a game that is truly good and will just build a framework for monetization methods.
There are plenty of things that can be monetized, this should not be one of them
I think the biggest issue is the bane/ward perks. Less loadouts would be fine if it was a QoL but those perks make that complicated, IMO they should make a new gear slot with the functionality of bane/ward that you keep upgrading per type that way its 1 item per type of perk instead of an entire set.
Quality of Play should not be payed. This is something that should be free, and they should offer 20.
Fully agree with you Baggins, this is pretty unacceptable imo. Players waiting over a year for this feature and we get 2-3 slots and have to buy additional slots for real life currency. Create a problem and sell the solution I guess….
Let me get this straight. Amazon creates gearsets (crafting, refining, ward, PvP) something that has been tedious from day one; and what is their solution?! For us to pay for the fix to a problem they created?! LMFAO sure Amazon.
Totally agree with you!
This is a very bad move for amazon.
Are they adding a system to save your weapon talent point allocation(build storage). It's annoying having to respec everytime I switch from tank to dps
Making players pay for quality of life features is very much taking the “let me create a problem so that I can sell you the solution” approach to developing the game. Huge letdown.
Completely agree. Here's hoping they watch this video, wake up to real life and launch the feature with a reasonable amount of gear set slots WITH NO COST. Personally, this feature is going to be a make-or-break deal for me with New World, from someone who's been playing from day 1. I've had enough.
Agreed lol. 6k hours over 50 gear sets accumulated from full bis pvp sets to pve sets, all different weight classes and they want to give us 2 free sets LOL. slap in the face and to that Ags, F you with biggest F ever. Been ready to uninstall 2k hours ago, straw is getting worn down and the time will eventually come. Like god forbid they’ve screwed the players for a year, now let’s milk the hell out of the loyal players left😂
Honestly I see nothing wrong with this. While we want the game to progress and continue development, we have to remember that this is not a subscription game, nor is this particular function p2w. I can live with this.
A season pass with boost ect might as well be a subscription, if you wanna keep up you gonna have to pay up. Forcing us to pay for a QOL feature that should've been in the game many months ago on top of a season pass is just bullshit. Imo they are just milking the remaining players dry.
It makes zero sense that you have to pay for gear sets. Technically you can make gear sets in your storage shed, however gearsets help for being on the go. This is a very greedy move from Amazon, and it doesn't bide well with the dedicated player base. Considering there's now a season pass as well. I would be okay with having gear sets being unlocked through the season pass, at least 5-10 though. This is a feature 90% of New World players thought would be free. They should listen to the community on this one, because this is exactly how your game will get negative reviews on Steam. MMO's require the player to put time and effort into getting EARNED rewards. Feels like they're throwing dirt in our eyes. If there's gear set purchase tiers, it's kinda saddening. I can see the developers removing it, and there's still time for them to do so. I'm not saying it's the end of the world, it's just about having decent values so that the game moving forward can be the best it can be.
Hmmm do you think you will be able to buy so many in the shop? It seems like to me that this will be more like a long lasting system, where you unlock one in each season and maybe buy one every season. And I guess it is still not a good thing, but mmos selling quality of life stuff or pay for convenience, that haa always been the case, right?
Takes them so long to make it and then it is required to pay for more than 3 slots?!? I don't think I described anything as outrageous before... It's beyond stupid and assholish tbh.
I can understand the frustration, but imo the real true issue is that stats isn't included in the gear set. Gearset shouldn't exist to begin with, it should be replaced with build templates which would include gear sets, stats eg: str con point allocation, weapon skills. Because now when I switch gear I still have to pay 200gold and change my stats every gear set loadout change.
1000% agree, this is even a bigger issue to me too (thag it should include skills and attributes)
Just getting back to the game after 1 year and I was happy to here they were adding gear sets. Unfortunately when I heard they were only giving us 2 and then locking the rest away behind a battle pass is kind of a dick move but at the same time AGS could be subscription based like other MMO's. I came from FF14 which is subscription based and they give you 45 gear slots which is plenty. 2 slots is a joke and only gives you the option to make loadouts between 2 roles like a dps/tank but otherwise your still stuck with the process of moving your gear around for 3 minutes for the rest of your needs. I really hope they listen to the player base and fix this.
In an mmo a season pass with boosts ect might as well be a subscription fee, pay up or fall behind
I really don't understand why so many mmo companies thinks this is the feature set to monetize. This game already has a shit ton of sets with a constant need to switch gear. Its worse than just about any other any mmo I've played. The existing nonsense might have been reasonable, if there was a feature to easily create and switch builds. But nope that's not free... its not even free with a sub. Its pay per use. So so so disappointing.
personally i agree completely with the season pass so far as they dont make op gear locked behind it. But this is truly next level and as you said very disappointing, i just hope they change there mind or at the very least make this a one time thing as if they keep making simple quality of life systems put behind a pay wall then the game will die as players will get sick of it.
Question baggins what's you expectations for switch between all 10 sets of gear, maybe we can have two sets live but all gear in sets. 30. We secs before you can move to third set
Totally agree. We give them ideas to solve problems in the game and they ask for money to use it. And they are surprised when people are leaving the game. Cheap.
So the gear sets are not going to help at all with inventory management? We just get to quick swap gear we happen to have on us.
The Attribute and Weapon Skills should be part of the loadout system. I can't tell from your screenshots or video, but I am guessing that neither of those are part of the saved loadout. Some examples: I want to be able to switch out my Lifestaff/Void Gauntlet skills and attritube distribution based on PVE and PVP using loadouts. Similar Healer vs DPS or Tank vs DPS using the same weapon would likely require a different set of weapon skills. Without this, the loadouts are missing on full effectiveness.
Maybe they should split trade skill set storage and armor set storage
this should be like monster hunter world, there you have 100 loadouts for free.
new world isnt like other mmos where you only use 2 to 5 sets for everything, you need like 5 sets for pve and 1 or 2 for pvp, and thats only for 1 "class", if you want to switch then another 7 slots for that class and so on
They have the best business case, they create the problem and then they sell the solution, nice!
It really feels like they created so many items to only sell a way to acquire gear storage. I feel betrayed as i considered this as a game issue to be corrected in an upcomming patch.
I agree entirely unless they do something like 10 permanent gear set slots for 5$. I’ve seen other F2P MMOs sell permanent QoL features for small amounts and it works out. Things like gear sets, removed/lowered taxes on an auction house, character slots, fast travel being free etc.
I think it would be best for them to include an additional 5 gear sets for everyone who gets a season pass, for a total of 8. Then have them available in the shop for 1$/slot. I bet most of the player-base would reluctant drop cash if they were cheap. 3 is too low. But it’s better than nothing.
100% AGREE, PAY FOR QOL UPDATE, ITS NOT COOL NW.
Thank you for highlighting this. The gear set system they’ve come up with seems really really great. The only thing missing is to also change attribute points but with this system we’re way better off already.
When you design your game with gear as a focal point and something players grind for, this kind of system is necessary. They’ve built expeditions that require multiple gear changes during the run, which added a cool dynamic, but made the pain point worse.
The feature was well designed. Limiting to 3 free is ridiculously low, and kind of insulting. Even if you set aside the refining and crafting and gathering sets, which are a bit easier to equip - you can search for them by name and quickly equip them - I can easily count 20-25 gear sets I regularly use, and a handful more that I have as well.
They need to get this right. We’ve stuck by waiting for this kind of promised QoL solution; don’t punish us for playing the game. There’s money to be made on the battle pass and transmog and other things.
You couldn’t have said that any better! I have 4K hours but I’ll drop this game in a second if they make quality of life improvements cost real money. So scummy
Same. Idec if they have some QOL costs but giving only 3 free sets in this game is dogshit
For me, I don't think this is great but it's not as bad as paying and getting extra legendary items and materials. This isn't really play power, so while I am against paying for convenience, I think I've been beaten down with it enough that I don't care that much.
Hello, I totally agree with Baggins, this is not going well. It is just not right to make such QoL feature and lock it behind payment... I am so annoyed of the fact that I have to farm so much different type of sets and in addition the time which you spent to equip it and maintain all of them. This QoL feature was supposed to come much earlier into the game. And now when it is going to happen - you get only 2 sets and 1 additional which is farmable and it is farmable only during season 1? This is so wrong...
Add additional slots as a reward from some achievements, add it as an event rewards... Even you may add them as an item in the faction stores. Add quest chains with some interesting story and at the end to receive a slot as a reward... There so much other things to make the unlocking of additional slots much better and smarter... What a shame. I am starting to be worried for the transmog system... Feels like more features will be implemented like that - you need to pay for it...
Good take. I could almost get behind charging for extra slots if the free option would at least cover the majority of the set required to play the game. At base we should at least get enough free slots to cover every bane, plus another 3-5 free for players to use as they please, if not more. Not everyone participates in every crafting/refining skill plus pve and pvp with multiple builds. So make the cap something stupid like 50 slots, but give us like 25 free and people can buy the remainder if they truly need that many more.
overall I think the system is great and even them pay walling isn't the worst its simply that they only give 3 for free. Like you said it need to be pushed WAY up. Even for a casual player the game is designed for you to collect and use different sets and the number of free sets should reflect that a little more reasonably. I mean as a casual player I have found crafting sets pointless as I am not going to waste a chunk of my play time swapping sets everytime I see a resource I need, so I just collect in my standard gear.
Game Design
Dungeon Roles (Tank, Healer, DPS)
Ward Sets
Gathering Sets
Crafting Sets
The new seasonal model etc is the same as "Fortnight" and "Destiny 2" which is designed to be a "Loot Boxe" opener with high hints to go to the online store to purchase additional items.
I agree 100%. Three gear sets is far too few. They need to increase the base amount significantly before they even consider monetizing this feature. In principle I’m against monetizing solutions to problems they’ve created within the game.
honestly I think that approach is fine as long as the prices for upgrades stay fair & they increase the starting number to like 5 or 10. I'd be absolutely fine with having 5 from the start & paying 500marks of fortune for each additional since you'll get 2,5k marks in the free pass anyways.
While I understand the frustration of players that play multiple dungeons & multiple roles throughout the day and would like to use this for refining/trade skills in general I don't think that's AGS' vision for this.
i just quit yesterday, this was my main game and then "boost tokens" + this came out and people want to say this is how they have to make money. well I wish they said this in the first place because I would of never started playing. How about make a solid game and people will buy your skins.
I think in SWTOR there are 10 loadouts but not sure if it's only for sub players. At very least I think buying battlepass should enable all slots for one month and then should exist some cheap slots (like for 1k) in the shop if someone don't want to pay for the pass.
There are currently like 6 differed wards for pvE (ancient, angry earth, beast, corrupted, human, lost), 7 crafting sets, 5 refining sets, 5 gathering sets, and then your luck set. That is 24 sets if you want to do everything excluding pvp..... this is for a quality of life change that should have been in the game from the beginning... and this also is only taking into account that you are only playing one role in PVE for each ward type. Three is a pathetic number by their own game design.
Paying for QoL is a hard NO.
Baggins, we should not have to pay for ANY beyond 10 or not. There are FREE addons not even created by the devs, by freelance creators that fulfill these tasks in other games. ESO has a great one, alphagear or something. WoW with outfitter, etc.
I refuse to pay ANY money for any QoL in any game.
The purchasable amount will be heavily limited and increased over time with the primary way still being the seasonal participation which is a voluntary form of subscription. The fact that this is a pay to own game until expansions come out with an optional season pass is a perfect display of good faith while still dealing with the pan-handling side of the community.
they is no good faith here lol its a ripoff, if people pay for this they will charge for everything
IMO.. its not that big deal (maybe because I'm new to this game, and doesn't meet complex situation yet) since we can still probably change the gear manually without it. Also I think its a common thing in MMORPG, especially the game that doesn't have monthly subscribes to monetize something for convenience things, aslong it doesn't count as pay to win.
Well, it just my opinon tho.. feel free to correct me, since I'm new player from SEA and just been playing this game like 40 hours
Unless they backtrack on this in a major way, I will not be coming back to the game. Haven't played seriously in over a month due to content drought. Now I wonder if I ever will, its sad to say and even more sad that I'm not surprised. L Amazon.
I would personally be ok with it if each season going forward there is one available in the free track but if you want more immediately then you have to buy it.
I don't really thing this is that big of a deal, for the average player. I swap between 2 sets as PvE, my full luck gear & the mutated dungeon gear im using for that week. Tradeskill armor is not a problem to equip as you can search it easy..
I will be shocked if they let the system go live in this state. Gear loadouts should be tied to activities in game. Dungeons/Outpost Rush/Invasions/Arena/Quests/Farming/Crafting. They have a perfect opportunity here to put that carrot on a stick to encourage all aspects of the game.
Why gear sets don’t change attribute and weapon abilities ? It does not make sense 😝😝😝😝
Yep. If it was (say) ten sets, and then the ability to unlock more for free (by playing the game, which should be a high priority for AGS - keep the player base) and _then_ allow purchasing more. Or maybe even, keep what they have got, but a new slot costs 500 marks. So with the marks you get from the free track you can buy another 4. Then next season you can buy some more.
It's the fact that they have made is so laughabley small that just makes it feel greedy.
so they added new ward/bane into game along with a preset feature, which should have been implemented from the beginning. There is already too much mess with all the wards and all, storages and inventory is just cluttered and takes so much time sort everything. It was running simulator at the beginning, now it is inventory/storage cleaning/sorting simulator.
This game actually blows idky you play it. We paid 40 dollars for the game. It had so much hype but lacked so much content and quality-of-life features. They lost pretty much 80% of pop. They finally start to fix the issues and release new content, they get a lot of players playing again then completely go to shit again. Adding a battle pass onto a game we paid for is whatever but the fact it's gonna make the game pay to win with boosts and gifting legendary gear instead of grinding and crafting it is so weird. There adding this feature that helps the game out so much behind a paywall. I saw mounts are coming as well which is gonna be another thing they make us pay for to use. The Game needs CONTENT!!!!! Needs to have a new market. Let us be able to sell everything, Get rid of this bind to character shit. Make an Open world PVP zone where you risk all your loot you have on. Make Boss drops way harder. 1-5000 odds to get a drop not 1/2 kills I get the item I'm looking for with luck gear. I want this game to be good but there is no point to keep playing. I have the best gear I can get there is no point in farming bosses, no point in crafting gear to sell bc ill never need anything to buy bc I have the best stuff I can have in slot for my character.
Sure allow people to buy them but they need to increase the free base amount and also give many more options for players to earn them; questing, faction rewards, events, rare item drops, additional reward tracks from seasons... etc etc. It is like they underestimate just how many gear set loadouts players would want. Charging for QoL improvements seems shady, at least need many more ways to earn additional set slots.
Its a big slap in the face for the players , now im also pretty sure transmog will be shop item to
I agree, if they can give us 3 gear slots, why not give us 10? Doesnt cost them more and makes the game more enjoyable, may help to bring players back. This is a UI improvement and makes swapping sets more convenient, the sort of thing which other MMOs implemented 5-10 years ago. Im fine to pay a sub for content, but i dont think features which arguably should have been implemented earlier should be part of that, im a casual player and probably change sets around 10-15 times per day, I cant imagine what it must be like for more serious players. Charging for this will create resentment towards a game which is already struggling to retain its playerbase. Next theyll be charging money to raise the gold cap another 100k.
Yeah I agree, would be more happy to pay a monthly subscription, reither then this..
3 SLOTS??? I need like 15 AT LEAST. I have every ward for every class. That’s 3 roles + multiple dps wards. So that there is 15. Plus I have multiple PvP sets (5 at least). Now you have all your crafting gear (I have 2). I would need over 20 slots! That is such a low move to monetize that because the gear set is nothing more than an organized list. For an mmo with a “equip your role” model, load-out slots should have been a thing AT LAUNCH. Bad move AGS! 😡
Bad take on it bud but its probably the example you are using. 3 fast travels, for sure, def an uproar. But 3 free gear sets arent on the same level. Amazon is giving a gift with it being 3 for free. Now understand, I come from DCUO and they give you 1 Free gear set in their system called Armory. 1. You have to pay to get more which are about 5 bucks without the sales. Here with it being 3, I couldnt be so happy for that decision. Maybe a little iffy on the 1 free tied to a Season Pass cause I worry about others like in Season 2 and onwards. Amazon is giving us the ability to have a gear set for Tank, DPS, and Healer. Or drop one of those and swap it for a PVP set or leveling set. This system is always tied to the MP which isnt a bad thing, depending on the cost. There will be plenty of players Im sure that will be fine with 3, including myself. Others, like yourself and many here, thats too small. Well, business gotta make money and I for sure am wanting to see the price cause this kind of thing needs be lower than 10 dollars, hell 5 dollars Max. Its definitely a money maker.
Please be upset, you never know maybe they'll give 5 or maybe the 10 everyone wants. But take it from someone who lives in this system already, 3 is a blessing and 10 years later in DCUO from when they launched the system, they still give us only 1 free Armory. Amazon is going good with this choice....so far...better not be some expensive price tag lol
At the very least, if you have 5 tanning set or 5 smelting, 5 weaving the buffs should be auto equipt. they are on a knife edge with this shit and craping on loyal fans. new players won care or understand till end game, then feel shit on. shameless money grab, off their stable playerbase
If they’re looking for solutions to make money maybe they should consider releasing cosmetics that actually look nice and not like a clown…
Yeah but then you wouldnt have to buy the new ones every time and try to mix and match them until your character almost looks somewhat decent
I stopped playing for a while now, I check up to see if anything worth returning.
The inventory system doesn't hinder the gameplay, you've played it this entire time witout it and the provide you with 3 slots. You can easily have main, sub. craft gear. You want more pay for it, I think that's fair. Comparing it to fast shrines is a completely different feature. You can only play 2 weapons at max, maybe you have one set that caters to the main and the other that caters to the secondary. But being locked out of a teleport or map location blocks players from an experience that other players cant have. Ive played games where battle pass players can teleport anywhere on the map. verse non holders have maps where only shrines are located after you visited the area on foot. now that was a hinderance. But the ability to quick swap armor sets have never made the gameplay harder. or inconvenient. Maybe if theres some PVP aspect. like a player can put on armor in between attacks. with different perks which I doubt.
New World has a crafting system, where you can Create Dye, to color your armor, that doesnt work on the cosmetics you pay for, and thought you can craft over 100 dyes, you cant craft black you have to pay for that.
I completly agree White u....i stop playing when void gauntlet come whit 1200h.....but i would give It another try and i like how game evolve..... But this kind of stuff like bots,Gold Sellers and this type of monetización really suck
A really cool idea they could implement is the legendary armory. Similar to Guild Wars 2, where you have to do a bunch of stuff before getting each piece of the legendary gear, but when you do, you can place the armor in any character, with any stat ( in new world's case that would be perks) and you could even implement a legendary gem system, where it's basically the same thing but for gems on the said armor
if it was free to play game it will be ok, but i already buy it, and i want to donate, but i can't do this bc NW is banned for my country right now (i'm from Russia). I think it will be better if we can have slots for our prof gear and slots for any role, as dps, tank, heal, mb for luck set. It will be more interesting, if we have 2 slots at the start, and for more slots we need to craft some items, whitch have a story line like azoth staff and at the end we have Woodworking, Smelting, Stonecutting, Tanner, Cooking, Armoring, Jewelcrafting, Weaponsmithing, Enjeneering, Weawing, Arcana, Dps, Tank, Heal and mb one or two more. It wiil be much but very comfortable to play. Sorry for my english btw.
Im totally okay with the idea of paying for extras, im okay with 3 free ones. Like I got gears for pvp from wars, duels, opr… I got pver sets and if you’re organized with the storages you shouldn’t even complain honestly. We want content but let’s be honest they’re not making money outta new world and yes is a billionaire company but that doesn’t mean they give them a budget. They have said it before they’re loosing money and yet they didn’t give up with the game. So just take the 3 free slots if you don’t wanna pay and be glad you have em.
How tf you know they aren't making money? They got some kind of earnings report you read? I bet skins have been more than paying for server costs
@@ans1l71 listen my guy how many new players are we getting every month? Pretty much non. Skins? Well that’s debatable but let’s be honest how many people you see buying the new skins? I rarely see anyone using them and I play on CoS, but hey g is my opinion. I personally never felt like gears were an issue because I’m organized, and if I wanna get more slots I’ll happily buy em but if you wanna complain about it go ahead gang
@@Shr12261 I mean they are also adding a battlepass (which I think is fine btw)
I agree to a point. I think 3 is too few. But I think there is a balance here thats possible. Both in terms of monitization and players who just dont want to pay for them. I think perhaps 2 free slots or as many as 10 you want if you opt into the season pass every 3 months, with potentially more slots purchasable.
The fast travel argument is not a fair representation as gear set storages are in theory completely optional part of the game. Walking is not. You need to walk around the map to play the game. The same is not to be said of gear sets. Its possible to play the game completely wtihout it. However inconvient. (I suppose it is at least somewhat comparable however slight) Just my two thoughts! Agree with 3 being too few though!
Pretty stupid to add a quality of life improvment behinde a pay wall. Thats just sad. Even if it cost like 1$ per slot its pretty greedy from them. And new world shoud take care of the few players not pushing them away. Bad bad amazon.
i think it depends on how expensive is it? how many slots you gain from one purchase, like if its just like 5-10 bucks and you get 5 more slots or something its not that bad, they’re still a company that needs to make money, its greedy to expect everything to be free. like the people expecting all the expansions to be free, they gotta make money somewhere
But you can't design a game which requires about 25 different gear Sets and then sell the sets for it lol.
@@scaroz2749 exactly that's the definition of create a problem and sell the solution, scummy af.
that's total garbage being behind a paywall- it's the ONLY functional addition i was waiting to see added, and it being fully usefull is behind the paywall
Having 3 free sounds fine to me. But it would be cool if they let us buy extra with gold or pay irl. 5$ a slot or 3k gold maybe? Game needs more gold sinks anyway