Point is very simple! She said KAT not use to playing center because he played with Gobert “all those years”. Even though KAT started at center in NBA for 6-7 seasons. Then moved to PF for last 2 seasons. And “no” KAT is not playing out of position playing the 5!
@jamespierrelouis347 ypu do understand that coaches and point guards call pick n rolls right ??? And this is true for EVERY big man. You have to feed them to keep them involved in the game. Basic basketball, learn it
@Antonio-vn5xc wtf are you talking about? Giannis doesn't pick and roll. Why would Giannis be in a pick and roll?? He can't shoot lmaoooooo you don't know any about basketball. Always dudes like you objecting to experts opinion
@@Vorzillahe’s saying Giannis isn’t setting the screen when he should, not him being the ball handler. Dame and Giannis p&r theoretically should be unstoppable but I haven’t watched enough bucks to see what the problem is personally
Julius is way more aggressive and assertive. KAT has a better skillset, but his mindset is what keeps him back. KAT is a five, or an oversized four in today’s NBA. They traded for KAT to play five out, if they move KAT to the four, they should’ve just kept Julius!
I 100% disagree. OG/Hart at the 4 all year long is a serious downgrade. They are too small. When Mitch comes back he slides to the 4, OG at the 3, Mikal at the 2 and Brunson at the 1. Josh Hart has to be the first guy off the bench.
@@Bdoz555kat ain’t all that bro. He too big to be that soft! He is a center! I get how they’ve rearranged positions in today’s nba but bro he’s a 7 footer who can really shoot! Why tf he ain’t posting up punishing mfs down low?
I always felt that the relationship that kat had with Ant-Man was one where Ant-Man brought the dawg out of kat.... Now in New York. He's going to have to figure that part out on his own if he wants to have that same season he had last year
What y'all talking about scouting report?!?! Tibs coach Kat in Minnesota. Kat always fouls out, has nothing to do with where he's playing. Do y'all watch the games?
@btaape972 from watching the last few games his post moves look a little soft but at least he’s a bigger threat than any big we have had since stoudemire
The issue with KAT is that he doesn't attack offensively how he has the potential to do. It's not a skill thing, it's a motor thing. Brunson attacks and Randle attacks. That puts pressure on the defense to deal with physicality all game. KAT shooting lets the defense off the hook.
Tbh Gil I love the effort you put into your podcast. From the studio to the props. Even you guys dressing up for Halloween. Idc for basketball but I support and watch simply because I can tell your all in!
what i dont like is that KAT is 7 0 and goes to line like 4-4 per night thats extra weak to me ...need at least 6 per night to get confidents when drawing fouls or being aggressive
AS A NEW Yorker AND A BLACK MAN I WAS AND STILL AM PISSED THAT THE KNICKS TRADED RANDLE. IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL. RUN IT BACK AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE. NOBODY WANTS TO SEE BRUNSON DRIBBLE FOR 22 SECONDS. RANDLE WAS THE HOOD IN NY, WENT HARD AND WAS NICE. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS Racial UNDERTONE BEHIND TRADING RANDLE. Also, please keep shorty there she is a dime
As Gil mentioned, they didn't like Randle. Who is they? Why did "they" not like a scorer averaging 20 and 10, family man, no issues here in NY? I experience the bull myself. Take a look in the mirror. Like K Mart said, we watch, see and know what's what
I understand you like Randle, but the trade was made for several reasons. Randle would not extend, Knicks didnt have a true 5 until January. Racial overtone?. Karl Towns is Black American / Domincan
Like I said just because they play basketball at a higher level than most people on Earth doesn't mean they know the game better...Lexie said that he's use to playing the 4 (PF) all those years when he only has played with Rudy Gobert two years and those were the two years he played the Power Forward position. He has literally played Center his whole career, lol. Also, Jalen Bronson average(d) more assist then Anthony Edwards... and Anthony Edwards has a higher usage rate than he does. So it's pretty much just KAT not being aggressive. Which is sometimes normal for a player coming to a new team trying to find where he fits in the offense.
Omg.now your like Randle. We didn't not boo Randle. That's was when he first got here. His 1st season wasn't good. And he was complaining alot. Randle had to grow on us. 2nd yrs on we was behind him 100%
Y’all do know kat only played the 4 for 2 seasons…. Lexi saying “ playing next to Rudy all those years” umm they only played together 2 seasons lol every other season kat was the center, he was drafted as one and played that til Minnesota traded for Rudy, and when Rudy came out the game, kat was the 5 and naz reid was the 4.
@ they just need to find the right fit I like kat as the 5 for spacing, but he’s not a good rim protector. They need a Draymond type player to play as the 4 but also as the rim protector.
None of these guys have any idea of what they’re talking about. They said the that JB wasn’t used to playing with the 5 and referenced Isaiah. He constantly played with Isaiah with a different dynamic because he was a passer but they’re completely unfamiliar with the team. It’s borderline embarrassing
No KAT needs to learn or be taught how to play real basketball, goto the block, crash the glass, set screens, give more effort, stop playing soft. He was Minnesota’s problem now he’s New Yorks problem 🤷🏾♂️
Not sure why we didn't see this. Brunson is an undersized SG. Kat, doesn't have any go to moves..he needs someone to set him up. This is a bad fit. Let alone they defensive liability from both Kat and Brunson Lexie he played with Rudt for 2 years. He was previously a 5. Because of his lack of rim protection, they went and grabbed Rudy. So it hasn't been all his career playing a 4. He was drafted a 5. Gil. The statement of players not knowing how to play without the ball is a complaint of the US development system for the last 10 to 15 years. Why we see so many former 5 star type guys not make it in the L. They only know how to play with the ball in their hands. They have limited to no off ball movements IQ/Skill set
Ever since the trade was announced I was against it and still am, it is not looking good for the Knicks and I honestly don't see it getting any better, hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it.
I honestly think the Knicks made a mistake in getting rid of Hartenstien, Randle, and Divencenzo. KATs not a winner in my opinion. He plays too soft, and he hasn’t shown he can win when he was the main guy in Minnesota. I think the Knicks lost more than they got back. Just those tough rebounds and extra possessions, along with the passing and shooting of Dante. I don’t think they got much better.
Kat and Julius Randle are both the same players ,but Kat needs to adjustment and stop pitching, he doesn't need to demand the ball ,the team doesn't need Kat, and jb is running the team ,Kat needs to adjustment
These dudes are perfect examples of guys who played but the game has past them by. The stuff they was running for dirk in early 2000s would destroy modern spacing
They just have to get used to playing together….Jalen been playing by himself all last year so now he has KAT he has to get used to playing with him as well as the other players…they’ll be fine
KAT needs to be moved at the 4 and get a real center to stop. Runson hero ball,Kats out of position he's a 4 not a Rudy gobert 5,tibs needs to make that change or he needs to be fired!
i say take josh hart out n put another big in n allow towns to play the 4..i feel like towns is gonna give you more offense at the 4 then hart would plus giving him some help with a. 5 will sure up the defense n hart off the bench helps the bench
randle is playing his natural position n getting his regular touches n his game is more complexed then kats…Towns has game but the last few yrs he’s limited his offense to pick n pop offense
He played next to Gobert all those years... lexi tell me you aint watch twolves without telling me you aint watch twolves. last year was the SECOND year together and the first year KAT played total 29 games that year. do better.
Julius Randall average 25 points 10 rebounds and five assists the last two seasons.. What do you mean Jalen brunson isn't used to having somebody to share it with... Just because you played in the NBA doesn't mean you're intelligent
2:02 why do people forget that KAT played center before gobert got to Minnesota…….KAT was a center before he was a power forward
Facts.. I don’t know how these “experts “ are missing that fact
He doesn’t like playing the 5; he prefers the 4
No one forgets he just doesn't play the 5 well that's why the trade wasn't a good one🤦🏾
What is Lexie talking about 1:26. KAT was drafted as a Center and only played with Rudy for 2 seasons 🤦
What's your point?
And?
Point is very simple! She said KAT not use to playing center because he played with Gobert “all those years”. Even though KAT started at center in NBA for 6-7 seasons. Then moved to PF for last 2 seasons. And “no” KAT is not playing out of position playing the 5!
@@neiko_ontherun5034 she didn’t exactly say that. Also, everyone on that panel said the same thing.
Kat is not a natural 5 the same as AD but the problem is they are 7ft tall so they kinda have to be
A point guards job is to FEED the big man. He can't bring the ball up. Same thing with the Lakers,JJ making sure they feed AD to keep him in the game
KAT is not AD, AD at least plays inside of the 3pt line. It’s hard to feed KAT when Kat literally doesn’t pick and roll and doesn’t posted
@jamespierrelouis347 ypu do understand that coaches and point guards call pick n rolls right ??? And this is true for EVERY big man. You have to feed them to keep them involved in the game. Basic basketball, learn it
Giannis doesn't pick and roll when he should also. He literally wont pick when he should. You dont know if theyre asking for them @@Vorzilla
@Antonio-vn5xc wtf are you talking about? Giannis doesn't pick and roll. Why would Giannis be in a pick and roll?? He can't shoot lmaoooooo you don't know any about basketball. Always dudes like you objecting to experts opinion
@@Vorzillahe’s saying Giannis isn’t setting the screen when he should, not him being the ball handler. Dame and Giannis p&r theoretically should be unstoppable but I haven’t watched enough bucks to see what the problem is personally
Knicks would’ve had a better team on the court if they never made that trade
Or give them more than a handful of games to gel
Facts
Knicks fans never wanted Kat
It’s like having a oversized Allan Houston
@@daPhonMan More like Offensive Rudy Gobert..Same kind of motor
That shot at 2:35 look like it took a few years off his life 😂
Lmao
Julius is way more aggressive and assertive. KAT has a better skillset, but his mindset is what keeps him back. KAT is a five, or an oversized four in today’s NBA. They traded for KAT to play five out, if they move KAT to the four, they should’ve just kept Julius!
well said
But Kat is a better player than Julius. Period.
2 things can be true at the same time@@Bdoz555
I 100% disagree. OG/Hart at the 4 all year long is a serious downgrade. They are too small. When Mitch comes back he slides to the 4, OG at the 3, Mikal at the 2 and Brunson at the 1. Josh Hart has to be the first guy off the bench.
@@Bdoz555kat ain’t all that bro. He too big to be that soft! He is a center! I get how they’ve rearranged positions in today’s nba but bro he’s a 7 footer who can really shoot! Why tf he ain’t posting up punishing mfs down low?
Never forget that Lebron was averaging 37 ppg against McCants
🌽
We can’t forget. Especially after seeing this comment in every Gil’s Arena video. Thanks for reminding us…. Again.
Played out now son
Super corny at this point
@@BDAthleticInsidercorn
This collab was perfect!
Lexi has had some good takes lately. And she pretty too lol
I always felt that the relationship that kat had with Ant-Man was one where Ant-Man brought the dawg out of kat.... Now in New York. He's going to have to figure that part out on his own if he wants to have that same season he had last year
lol what dawg did KAT ever have lol?? if KAT had any ounce of dawg they would’ve been in the finals. that nigga is soft and inconsistent as fuck.
What y'all talking about scouting report?!?! Tibs coach Kat in Minnesota. Kat always fouls out, has nothing to do with where he's playing. Do y'all watch the games?
Kenyon hit that shit at 2:35 like “this shit Scrong” 😂😂😂😂
Rashad-kat is Dirk
Kenyon- no he's not
Also Kenyon-kat need to run the same plays dirk did😕😕😕
They literally just disagree with Rashad just to disagree
@@jordonwilliams405 literally lol
He’s not dirk tho. He’s just a shooting big man that’s all
@@jordonwilliams405 Karl is not Dirk ya big dummy, you misunderstood what Kenyon is actually saying.
Kat needs to demand the ball
Anytime he’s in the post he needs to get the ball
@@lemmie_live5969 with what post moves, the problem is that kat is not skilled/strong enough to dominate in the post at all
@btaape972 from watching the last few games his post moves look a little soft but at least he’s a bigger threat than any big we have had since stoudemire
not with you have a ballhog as a pg
@@heybud2110facts
The issue with KAT is that he doesn't attack offensively how he has the potential to do. It's not a skill thing, it's a motor thing. Brunson attacks and Randle attacks. That puts pressure on the defense to deal with physicality all game. KAT shooting lets the defense off the hook.
Facts !!!
@@swelly84brunson gotta pass the ball for kat to attack . Kd
Big Bodega is definitely a New York / Dominican nickname! 💪💪💪
For some reason people from Cali be obsessed with New York
Its called Coast to coast rivalry and competition. Wouldnt be sports without it
Tbh Gil I love the effort you put into your podcast. From the studio to the props. Even you guys dressing up for Halloween. Idc for basketball but I support and watch simply because I can tell your all in!
Ok let’s not actlike Randle didn’t tell the fans to stfu and throw middle fingers at the crowd . He was just getting boo’s for no reason now .
I don’t think he did that at all. Just a thumbs down
The fans deserved it. I'm a Knicks fan
Thank you, Kmart. Finally a good take from Gill as well.
This video is amazing! I can't stop watching!
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I’m tired of seeing “never forget that LeBron was averaging 37 ppg against McCants” we get it
Well skip through reading it dikhead
what i dont like is that KAT is 7 0 and goes to line like 4-4 per night thats extra weak to me ...need at least 6 per night to get confidents when drawing fouls or being aggressive
I agree a 100%.He should be getting to the free throw line.Almost double digits every night.
That’s because brunson always has the ball
How is he going to go to the line without the ball?
AS A NEW Yorker AND A BLACK MAN I WAS AND STILL AM PISSED THAT THE KNICKS TRADED RANDLE. IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL. RUN IT BACK AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE. NOBODY WANTS TO SEE BRUNSON DRIBBLE FOR 22 SECONDS. RANDLE WAS THE HOOD IN NY, WENT HARD AND WAS NICE. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS Racial UNDERTONE BEHIND TRADING RANDLE.
Also, please keep shorty there she is a dime
Why does your race matter in this topic 😭
"As a Black man" what's wrong with you?
As Gil mentioned, they didn't like Randle. Who is they? Why did "they" not like a scorer averaging 20 and 10, family man, no issues here in NY? I experience the bull myself. Take a look in the mirror. Like K Mart said, we watch, see and know what's what
I understand you like Randle, but the trade was made for several reasons. Randle would not extend, Knicks didnt have a true 5 until January. Racial overtone?. Karl Towns is Black American / Domincan
Gil is right it's up to the coach to make sure that the team is running plays for Kat
I know they're doing the Halloween thing but I feel like those are K-Mart's real grand daddy sandles 🤷🏾♂️😂
Like I said just because they play basketball at a higher level than most people on Earth doesn't mean they know the game better...Lexie said that he's use to playing the 4 (PF) all those years when he only has played with Rudy Gobert two years and those were the two years he played the Power Forward position. He has literally played Center his whole career, lol.
Also, Jalen Bronson average(d) more assist then Anthony Edwards... and Anthony Edwards has a higher usage rate than he does. So it's pretty much just KAT not being aggressive. Which is sometimes normal for a player coming to a new team trying to find where he fits in the offense.
Never forget gil averaged 26 on Kenyon
Lexi...
“Thank god for the liberty”
YES THANK GOD THAT WE HAD TO GIFT A CHAMPIONSHIP
Gil finna get Coach Thibs fired cuz he is calling em out and he is right
Omg.now your like Randle. We didn't not boo Randle. That's was when he first got here. His 1st season wasn't good. And he was complaining alot. Randle had to grow on us. 2nd yrs on we was behind him 100%
I don’t get the knicks trading for Kat why not see how it looked with Randle before making this move just dumb
So does it mean "Get comfortable"? Or is it cap?
“Played next to rudy all those years”
Literally only the last 2 seasons 2022 & 2023
Lexie has that birthday glow.
Facts kj they needa watch old Mavs highlights with dirk
Never forget, before that Gil’s Arena check hit, McCants was in flea market Jordan’s….
Y’all do know kat only played the 4 for 2 seasons…. Lexi saying “ playing next to Rudy all those years” umm they only played together 2 seasons lol every other season kat was the center, he was drafted as one and played that til Minnesota traded for Rudy, and when Rudy came out the game, kat was the 5 and naz reid was the 4.
Side note: when tibs was in minn. kat was the 5. They just need to learn how to play together. The trade happened a month ago. They need time.
@@noluv4u445 kat and Tibs didnt work in Minn at all either
@ they just need to find the right fit I like kat as the 5 for spacing, but he’s not a good rim protector. They need a Draymond type player to play as the 4 but also as the rim protector.
They really be acting like Randle don’t shit the bed every year in the playoffs
i feel like coaches n teams have forgotten how to get big men touches especially centers
Exactly Kenyon Martin. I’m both of them.
“For all those years” it was like two bruh lol
Kenyon spitting
Wait what? She said Kat played with Gobert for “all them years”…you mean 2?
None of these guys have any idea of what they’re talking about. They said the that JB wasn’t used to playing with the 5 and referenced Isaiah. He constantly played with Isaiah with a different dynamic because he was a passer but they’re completely unfamiliar with the team. It’s borderline embarrassing
Bro these niggas don’t watch shit they just talk cause they have voices😂 I watch for entertainment at this point
Randle made sure he got his shots lol. KAT might have to do the same thing unless coach impliments it correctly.
@00:00 Town's first season of the game?? You mean the other way around? 😂😂
KAT played for Thibs for years in Minnesota.
Julius did thumbs down the fans. And refused to speak to media a lot of the times.
Coaches are Lazy now 😔😔 you are completely right Gil you can see it night in & night out
Am I mistake or didn’t Thibs coach the wolves for a sec and KAT was there 🤔🤔
I love this show and the Halloween flavor is crazy
The Question is, when does the CHEMISTRY kick in ???
New York Knicks should have gone after Dwight Howard
U a 🤡
No KAT needs to learn or be taught how to play real basketball, goto the block, crash the glass, set screens, give more effort, stop playing soft. He was Minnesota’s problem now he’s New Yorks problem 🤷🏾♂️
Big Pur is crazy. Doesn’t Coi Leray have a big pur song 😂
I’m agreeing with all of yall!
brunson just happy as long as he gets his points lol. thibs just showing why he loves coaching the same player again and making them suck
The host with that 2k shirt
Not sure why we didn't see this. Brunson is an undersized SG. Kat, doesn't have any go to moves..he needs someone to set him up. This is a bad fit. Let alone they defensive liability from both Kat and Brunson
Lexie he played with Rudt for 2 years. He was previously a 5. Because of his lack of rim protection, they went and grabbed Rudy. So it hasn't been all his career playing a 4. He was drafted a 5.
Gil. The statement of players not knowing how to play without the ball is a complaint of the US development system for the last 10 to 15 years. Why we see so many former 5 star type guys not make it in the L. They only know how to play with the ball in their hands. They have limited to no off ball movements IQ/Skill set
The knicks can literally use kat at the 4 and give him julius randles role
Ever since the trade was announced I was against it and still am, it is not looking good for the Knicks and I honestly don't see it getting any better, hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it.
Also Brunson is annoying being a ball hog, PASS THE BALL!!
I honestly think the Knicks made a mistake in getting rid of Hartenstien, Randle, and Divencenzo. KATs not a winner in my opinion. He plays too soft, and he hasn’t shown he can win when he was the main guy in Minnesota. I think the Knicks lost more than they got back. Just those tough rebounds and extra possessions, along with the passing and shooting of Dante. I don’t think they got much better.
Kat and Julius Randle are both the same players ,but Kat needs to adjustment and stop pitching, he doesn't need to demand the ball ,the team doesn't need Kat, and jb is running the team ,Kat needs to adjustment
These dudes are perfect examples of guys who played but the game has past them by. The stuff they was running for dirk in early 2000s would destroy modern spacing
Knew this trade was trash
Yo when Lexi be wearing those good wigs she be so 🔥
He so GEORGIA
BORN AND RAISED
Knicks doing Kat the same way they did kemba
We can't blame KAT because he was involved in a dumb trade that management didn't think through.
They just have to get used to playing together….Jalen been playing by himself all last year so now he has KAT he has to get used to playing with him as well as the other players…they’ll be fine
KAT is a 5 period just like Embid and Joker. They can all handle shoot amd pass but they are 5's 7ft 250
its on Brunson
brunson needs to start passing, dude always trying to play hero ball
All their guards play that way.I hate it they all play hero ball. Kolek probably the only one that aggressively tries to get high assists.
KAT needs to be moved at the 4 and get a real center to stop. Runson hero ball,Kats out of position he's a 4 not a Rudy gobert 5,tibs needs to make that change or he needs to be fired!
Mobley would’ve locked him up anyway.
Tibs used to be Kat coach
Kat needs to be the 1st option why the hell would the PG even be the 1st option anyway?. Feed your big man
divincenzo should never leave to begin with....
i say take josh hart out n put another big in n allow towns to play the 4..i feel like towns is gonna give you more offense at the 4 then hart would plus giving him some help with a. 5 will sure up the defense n hart off the bench helps the bench
Kay was a center before Rudy got there
randle is playing his natural position n getting his regular touches n his game is more complexed then kats…Towns has game but the last few yrs he’s limited his offense to pick n pop offense
Why we acting like Thibs wasn’t his coach a few years ago KAT is just not him Simply
He played next to Gobert all those years... lexi tell me you aint watch twolves without telling me you aint watch twolves. last year was the SECOND year together and the first year KAT played total 29 games that year. do better.
KARL ANTHONY TOWNS IS THE KNICKS MOST TALENTED PLAYER ..
it’s literally been 3 games 🤣🤣🤣
And if donte was here we will be 3 and 0
see the last 5 years of his career. kat isn't going to suddenly change.
He never got boo’d playing well only when he was playing with lack of effort
I don’t think these guys watch Knicks games… wtf?!😂😂😂 we talking bout 3 games here
After all that! 🤣🤣🤣
Yall acting like KAT didn't start off as a 5 in Minnesota. His a$$ just soft
I thought the knicks won the trade?😂😂😂
Let kat find Brunson it’s simple
KAT would've been better on the lakers ijs
Julius Randall average 25 points 10 rebounds and five assists the last two seasons..
What do you mean Jalen brunson isn't used to having somebody to share it with...
Just because you played in the NBA doesn't mean you're intelligent
Kat doin that on purpose cause he don’t want to be there
i never put much faith in kat.
Like number 17 type shit
Lexi legs 👀
Ooooh WEEE LEXIE.. BABYGIRL WITH THE GLISSLIN' WNBA LEGS ❤❤
Thibs is old school