If you want espresso you need to go with the Encore ESP. The ESP comes stock with Baratza's exceptional M2 conical steel burrs. Using the M2 burrs gives you a more consistent grind than the M3, and it outputs more coffee in less time. For consistency, ditch the timer and use a scale to weigh your coffee. Long term, Baratza's customer support and parts availability is superior.
Agreed I have had my ESP now for about a month and it's been solid, cleaning is super easy.. I was having some issues with hopper wobble. Single dose hopper helps but I think I'll be able to fix it with a thicker o ring.
I use the single dose hopper and it holds my normal 58-60 gram single dose for 1 liter of water just fine. And it runs quieter too. I got tired of the regular hopper lid popping off when my back was turned while grinding.
@@mikegu2527 Exactly what i found but i still have a bit of wobble... my suspicion is might have to do with the o ring...it looks pretty thin has a bit of play... i have seen some others put a thicker one on youtube will be trying it out...But so far i have not seen half beans in between the hopper and blades after a grind like when i used the regular hopper... it should have just come with both hoppers.
@@adriand6477My observations while making coffee this morning. I always single dose using the single dose hopper and start the motor before adding beans. No beans in the hopper = no vibrations/shaking. Added beans and the vibrating began. I think it is the burrs crunching the beans that causes the vibration. But to me the single dose hopper doesn't vibrate as much as the standard hopper does.
❤just purchased the OXO ,sounds like I made the right choice , haven't used it yet, I have an old style drip coffee maker, will I get the same results as a automatic coffee maker?
Both grinder seem great. Agreed the Baratza seems popular with coffee drinkers that like a finer grind. Did you end up brewing any if the coffee that was used for the video? How's the flavor? I've tried another coffee from that brand and liked it. So I'm curious about that breakfast blend 😊
What's funny is that another TH-camr who's a coffee guy did a direct comparison of these same two machines, and came to the exact opposite conclusion. The OXO did very well with the fine grind, but the Encore was much more consistent with the courser grinds. Soooo....can this mean it's a wash?
OXO makes some good stuff. I think Baratza edges it out though because I don't know why someone would use a timer to grind their beans. Only grind as much as you need via kitchen scale.
How would you weigh it as your grinding though? If you end up grinding too much you would have leftover and either make a much stronger cup, save it for later or dump it. How exactly do you weigh for a conical burr grinder? I'm not really familiar with weighing coffee though, I have a French press and I just use a scoop and only recently (like maybe the last 6 months) started to buy my coffee whole bean and grind it. Last week I got a conical burr grinder, actually I got this OXO one because I've been a long time fan of the brand, and I'm still trying to figure out what the best time setting is for a single serving and for a double.
You weigh what you need the first time, then time how many seconds the Oxo takes. Then set the dial to that time length for the next grind, then weigh the result to double-check. After that you’ll know how many seconds you need to grind the amount you’ll use. Obviously redo this if you change the grind setting.
I don't have first hand experience, but I'd start with medium. Fine is for espresso and coarse would be more appropriate for brew methods that steep or immerse the coffee for longer like cold brew or french press. With k cups being so small, I would just do a quick experiment. I would make one cup at 7, one at 9, and one at 11. See if you can tell a difference and which you prefer. Experiment more overtime if you want, but I would do the initial experiment to get a starting point. You could do another round with the two settings adjacent to your winner. If you liked 9 best, then there's only 8 and 10 left to try. Finer grinds and higher temperatures extract more from the coffee, which can bring out complex flavors but might also turn bitter. Coarser grinds and lower temperatures extract less, which might taste simpler or even sour. With K-cups, you probably can’t control the temperature, so pick beans you like (light roasts are more acidic, dark roasts are more robust) and use grind size to dial in your preferences.
I have the Baratza Encore and I love it. Parts are easily replaceable so it is made to last.
I have the OXO and set it to 1 1/2 for espresso. That works perfectly.
I have Encore ESP and I LOVE it. I also got the OXO on closeout at BBB. I use it for cold brews.
Nice! Looking forward to seeing how the Baratza does!
If you want espresso you need to go with the Encore ESP.
The ESP comes stock with Baratza's exceptional M2 conical steel burrs.
Using the M2 burrs gives you a more consistent grind than the M3, and it outputs more coffee in less time.
For consistency, ditch the timer and use a scale to weigh your coffee.
Long term, Baratza's customer support and parts availability is superior.
Good points thanks!
Agreed I have had my ESP now for about a month and it's been solid, cleaning is super easy.. I was having some issues with hopper wobble. Single dose hopper helps but I think I'll be able to fix it with a thicker o ring.
I use the single dose hopper and it holds my normal 58-60 gram single dose for 1 liter of water just fine. And it runs quieter too.
I got tired of the regular hopper lid popping off when my back was turned while grinding.
@@mikegu2527 Exactly what i found but i still have a bit of wobble... my suspicion is might have to do with the o ring...it looks pretty thin has a bit of play... i have seen some others put a thicker one on youtube will be trying it out...But so far i have not seen half beans in between the hopper and blades after a grind like when i used the regular hopper... it should have just come with both hoppers.
@@adriand6477My observations while making coffee this morning. I always single dose using the single dose hopper and start the motor before adding beans. No beans in the hopper = no vibrations/shaking. Added beans and the vibrating began. I think it is the burrs crunching the beans that causes the vibration.
But to me the single dose hopper doesn't vibrate as much as the standard hopper does.
I’ve had my Encore for about 8 years now. Older version than you’re showing. It just died. Sad😢 thanks for this review. I may spring on the Oxo
Oxon for the win.😅
Gracias por la reseña ✨
Which one is quieter?
Great review!
❤just purchased the OXO ,sounds like I made the right choice , haven't used it yet, I have an old style drip coffee maker, will I get the same results as a automatic coffee maker?
Both grinder seem great. Agreed the Baratza seems popular with coffee drinkers that like a finer grind.
Did you end up brewing any if the coffee that was used for the video? How's the flavor? I've tried another coffee from that brand and liked it. So I'm curious about that breakfast blend 😊
San Francisco bay coffee is really good coffee.
Do you think warming up the cord with a hair dryer would make it easier to coil neatly?
Could you please Tell me If it's possible to make good espressos with this grinder Oxo, without the high-pressure filter?
Would love a taste comparison between the two
What's funny is that another TH-camr who's a coffee guy did a direct comparison of these same two machines, and came to the exact opposite conclusion. The OXO did very well with the fine grind, but the Encore was much more consistent with the courser grinds. Soooo....can this mean it's a wash?
Interesting!
I have the Oxo, doesn’t do well with espresso at all. Unable to dial in my beans. Everything else is good.
The OXO is about half the price, $85 including shipping and you get a free travel mug.
Link?
Thank you!
Great review...
The Encore is the most recommended sub $200 coffee grinder in the coffee community. But it's not good for espresso.
That’s what the Encore ESP is for.
OXO makes some good stuff. I think Baratza edges it out though because I don't know why someone would use a timer to grind their beans. Only grind as much as you need via kitchen scale.
How would you weigh it as your grinding though? If you end up grinding too much you would have leftover and either make a much stronger cup, save it for later or dump it. How exactly do you weigh for a conical burr grinder? I'm not really familiar with weighing coffee though, I have a French press and I just use a scoop and only recently (like maybe the last 6 months) started to buy my coffee whole bean and grind it. Last week I got a conical burr grinder, actually I got this OXO one because I've been a long time fan of the brand, and I'm still trying to figure out what the best time setting is for a single serving and for a double.
@@mandywaynick8725para eso son las bascula, el baratza es para batista principiantes y el oxo para personas comunes que beben cafe
You weigh what you need the first time, then time how many seconds the Oxo takes. Then set the dial to that time length for the next grind, then weigh the result to double-check. After that you’ll know how many seconds you need to grind the amount you’ll use. Obviously redo this if you change the grind setting.
El oxo es para personas comunes el baratza es para cafeteros iniciales
Which grind size is suggested on the OXO to use with resusable Kcups?
I don't have first hand experience, but I'd start with medium. Fine is for espresso and coarse would be more appropriate for brew methods that steep or immerse the coffee for longer like cold brew or french press. With k cups being so small, I would just do a quick experiment. I would make one cup at 7, one at 9, and one at 11. See if you can tell a difference and which you prefer. Experiment more overtime if you want, but I would do the initial experiment to get a starting point. You could do another round with the two settings adjacent to your winner. If you liked 9 best, then there's only 8 and 10 left to try.
Finer grinds and higher temperatures extract more from the coffee, which can bring out complex flavors but might also turn bitter. Coarser grinds and lower temperatures extract less, which might taste simpler or even sour. With K-cups, you probably can’t control the temperature, so pick beans you like (light roasts are more acidic, dark roasts are more robust) and use grind size to dial in your preferences.
Cálida y funciones gana oxo , baratza hace el trabajo y no se daña tan facil.
I have the encore and it is always fussy. Im done with it.
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