Oh, I think it's more than "might"! Lol. But hopefully these reaction channels will expose Gen Z to this music. I'm an older millennial and I thankfully discovered this music through an "indie" band in the early 00s. I am *FOREVER* grateful 🥲
It’s hard explain the significance and appeal of Joy Division to people who didn’t live through that time. I was already a music fanatic, just exploring and obsessing over every kind of music I could find. I was, and still am, a huge fan of all kinds of rock music. When the first Joy Division album (Unknown Pleasures) came out in 1979, I had just switched my rock obsession from KISS to Rush, Pink Floyd, and Led Zeppelin. Joy Division was something completely different from the big, complex sounds of the big rock bands of the time. They’re still one of my favorite bands to this day, and I never lost the memory of how much of an effect it had on me during the first time I dropped the needle on that LP. Becoming a Joy Division fan led me in musical directions that a lot of people didn’t get back then. They thought that we were weird, Satanic, or even gay for liking this music. Anyway, in their brief tenure, they made some iconic and great music that has met the test of time. Listen to the album Unknown Pleasures, then work their their next album and collection of live performances and oddities. And course check out New Order. They kept some of the Joy Division feel and added dance and electronica.
I'll never claim to understand it, but I can honestly say that I'm not at all surprised by that. Sorry in advance for the book I'm about to write! I grew up in the 90s (born in '84) listening to hip hop and rap, r&b, and reggae and dancehall with a smattering of house music. My parents are from a small country in South America and rock music wasn't really something they listened to. I have two fairly older brothers and they weren't much interested in rock music either. We didn't have cable for a while growing up so my exposure to rock was very limited. Having said that I did have a couple favorite rock songs, but that's about it. Queue the early 2000s, with the "indie rock" revival which borrowed heavily and/or mimicked post-punk, when I saw an Interpol music video and was instantly drawn to it. I joined their message board and it was mostly people just exchanging music recommendations. I learned about and listened to all of the bands who influenced my favorite band. My knowledge of music exploded and I absolutely fell in love with post-punk. It's my favorite genre of music along with the subgenres and related genres. I can't even imagine how amazing it must have been to hear Joy Division for the first time. How amazing it must have been to experience the innovation in their music and that of their peers! ❤️
This is a classic, it'll never get old. Curtis, like Cobain, left us too soon. Another case of "What if". However, New Order rose out of the ashes and left us a lot of great music. Hope you check them out, they'll even get you dancin'.
So thrilled you have scratched the Joy Division surface. Just the thought of Ian Curtis and his talent overwhelms me and makes me shiver. With only 2 albums to their name, (Unknown Pleasures is a must) they are by far one the most influential acts to ever come out of the U.K. : tragic, dark, daunting and beautiful.
I have not heard this before, that I can recall anyway. Interesting, liked the drumming and lyrics but not something I will play myself. Thanks for the introduction Daniel, always learning something new here.
This reminded me of the times I shared music with a friend knowing it would blow their mind while I am happily watching their reaction . Great channel, man !
This version was recorded live off the Studio floor for a BBC Radio program called The John Peel Show. John Peel was an iconic DJ who championed a lot of underground punk and post punk music. He was a big fan of Joy Division. Had them on his program twice.
Ian died same day as Mount St Helens eruption. Lived in Seattle at the time. You could see the volcanic cloud to the South. A year later you could buy glass vial with ash, also they made glass from the ash too.
I had this on a cassette that a friend made me back in the day. The melancholic tone always appealed to me and still does. I think I prefer the studio version but that may be just because it's what I know. Cool to see you do some 80's bands.
It's always sad to see young people listening to Joy Division for the first time, wondering why they lasted for such a short period and then finding out what happened. Fortunately New Order were also excellent and everything they released between 1983 and 1989 was pretty much perfect. There are also two great films on the subject of Joy Division and New Order, "Control" and "24 Hour Party People" respectively, that help to tell the story.
I like the flaws to the live song, but the studio version should be the one judged. It would have been neat to do the live and studio back-to-back as one video.
Oh yeah! Some of the music I was listening to when I was your age in the clubs. Glad you are taking a listen. New Order Blue Monday is awesome. I would recommend Dead Souls by Joy Division. Trent Reznor did a great cover of Dead Souls on "The Crow" soundtrack.
Quite simply one of the best bands to have walked the earth..... their albums can initially be a difficult listen , but given time it all, falls into place...... and if you are into your lyrics.... Curtis was a poet
And just like that I'm back at the City Club in Detroit, dancing until 4am. This live version is good, but a little rushed and abrubt. I strongly recommend the single, it really captures the intense emotion and longing.
They were great. Still have a bootleg cassette called "Unknown Pleasures" that I play ever so often. My favourite song from them is "She lost control" - or was it "Shadowplay"? Doesn't matter, they're all good.
"Atmosphere" could be Joy Division's best song, or the lesser known "I Remember Nothing." My favorite is the latter, followed closely by "These Days," all great pieces by JD. It's hard to think of a bad song by them. They had a tremendous influence upon me as a songwriter and singer, and upon my bands from the summer of 1983 on out. It would be well worth it to react to both of their studio albums, 'Unknown Pleasures' and 'Closer.' JD was very influential on many bands that followed, including their contemporary, U2, then Nine Inch Nails and Radiohead, among many others. Thank you so much for choosing Joy Division for your channel, and thank you for your channel.
Most Radiohead fans might disagree with me, but I thought their Album "The Bends" was ten times better then "Ok Computer". Also, In my opinion New Order is up their with with Depeche Mode in creating the 80's sound, though what they created was a shadow of what they actually were.
I di scovered Joy Division relatively late, via Closer. That LP, given his impending suicide, is positively chilling, and please note that there's another way of pronouncing "Closer". Worth exploring, imo.
Hey fellow JD fans: Not familiar with the Peel Sessions version. Just my imagination, or was this version sped up? Why did getting to Joy Division take so long? More suggestions - Isolation, She's Lost Control, Atmosphere, Atrocity Exhibition.
Other post punk songs that deserve a listen are Public Image by Public Image Ltd and Another Girl Another Planet by The Only Ones. And Where's Capt Kirk by Spizzenergi because it reminds me of good times
I am actually keen to see your reaction to one of my favorite tracks from a then underground Argentine band called 'Sumo' . The song is 'Estallando Desde el Océano' . Really great bit of post punk.
The Clash will blow your mind....some songs Ghetto defendant Train in vain Janie Jones Rock the casual London calling Straight to hell......so many more
@@foxandscout nice......ya so many great songs I'm so bored with the USA Bank robber Stay free Arg l could go on My first mosh pit was Ramones...changed my life!
I suppose we have MTV to thank for groups like Joy Division. When MTV launched 40 years ago this August 1 its play list was dominated by British groups. Were it not for MTV Americans may not ever hear a group like Joy Division. American radio would have a had time playing this kind of music. British labels gave videos to MTV for free it helped the network fill its schedule. American labels wanted money for videos.They saw MTV as a radio station and wanted royalties.
It's so hard to listen to, knowing the agony he was in, and that he'd soon take his life. But JD made some incredible music, they're well worth a deep dive. No one else like them before or since. BTW it's unknown whether or not he actually had the affair. He certainly loved the Belgian girl, and his widow believes it was consummated, but the girl denies it, and Ian's not here to settle the matter. But whoever wrote that shouldn't state an opinion as fact.
You really should do a reaction to the British band Van der Graaf Generator. If you are daring you start with the 23 minutes epic "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" from their 1971 album "Pawn Hearts". They are an absolutely uncompromising band, and "Pawn Hearts" is one of the most experimental albums ever. Nevertheless the album was a huge success in Italy; it was at the number one position in the Italian album charts for 12 weeks. "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" has it all - quiet passages of great beauty alternate with extremely aggressive parts that border on total chaos. It even has two ships colliding in the fog. The song is about a lighthouse keeper that gets mad from all the accidents he had to helplessly watch.
FFS will someone PLEASE do a different damn JD song that this one? Try Disorder, Shadowplay, Interzone, Dead Souls, She's Lost Control, Atmosphere, Walked the Line, Decades, Isolation, Transmission, and finally, Ceremony. PLEASE.
Bro, chillax. The production on this was much different than the studio and it is simply an intro for Daniel. Hopefully he will get to the others when he can. Chill the smurf out.
Rip Ian, still on the chart of great! OMG, this is one of the best songs of its time! Please pay attention to where and when, but then, how would you know what then was like?
Love the song! Please check out Paul Young's version. It is much more seducing and theatrical. Young's voice mixes so well. Thanks for posting a terrific song.
Great reaction. I didn’t expect Joy Division. Do more Joydivision if it moves you. Both of their albums were very good and influential but not very popular unfortunately. There are some live videos of Joydivision on youtube. The best cover of this song ( IMHO) is by the Swans with Jarboe on vocals. Really brings out the lyrics. Thanks. th-cam.com/video/jtO8qItNShU/w-d-xo.html
@@theplanetruth oh yes I listened to it under your other post. It does have great dynamics and shifted the tempo a bit. A very good cover it is. There is a lot more potential in this song than JD utilized. I’ve heard this song performed in many different styles.
I would strongly suggest listening to the original album cut of this song, it's better. You can hear it on the official video, and see Ian and the band perform it.
I love that you break song lyrics down.thanks Could you please check out Beautiful girl by Inxs I’m the only one by Melissa Etheridge Think twice by celine Dion
When you listin who it’s not perfect thats not like top 10 group. Just and you get it after winning 38 Grammys and 100 000 000 albums and the biggest 12 inch album
Definitely not the radio version, which had a lot more atmosphere to the vocals. Still good but not the same one that made us all dance like crazy in the club.
Only another million to go! Prefer Eric Clapton "Tearing Us Apart" as a genre pick but as its own there are so many like Roxy Music, Lou Reed, Iggy Pop (who did the awesome music for the Movie "Repo Man.") The Cars have some of this vibe as does early Police releases. Some B-52 magic working here as well.
This isn't the version from the album which sounds slightly different and is better in my opinion. You should definitely give Blue Monday a listen from New Order. It's amazing.
This will be completely new to me I have no idea what this is about. Thanks for the ride. I was like you after hearing the song that was pretty good and then after you did the lyrics... I liked it more. Still not my cup of tea...
To be honest, they’re pretty boring and the songs are quite miserable. But I liked them at the time, and their legacy has put my opinion into perspective.
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This song is so iconic, it's hard to come to terms with the fact that people born in the 2000s might never have heard it before. ;-)
Read: it's hard to come to terms with the fact I'm getting old and boring 😂
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Oh, I think it's more than "might"! Lol. But hopefully these reaction channels will expose Gen Z to this music. I'm an older millennial and I thankfully discovered this music through an "indie" band in the early 00s. I am *FOREVER* grateful 🥲
Yeah it's funny... :-o But a great song will always survive 🎹
It’s hard explain the significance and appeal of Joy Division to people who didn’t live through that time. I was already a music fanatic, just exploring and obsessing over every kind of music I could find. I was, and still am, a huge fan of all kinds of rock music. When the first Joy Division album (Unknown Pleasures) came out in 1979, I had just switched my rock obsession from KISS to Rush, Pink Floyd, and Led Zeppelin. Joy Division was something completely different from the big, complex sounds of the big rock bands of the time. They’re still one of my favorite bands to this day, and I never lost the memory of how much of an effect it had on me during the first time I dropped the needle on that LP. Becoming a Joy Division fan led me in musical directions that a lot of people didn’t get back then. They thought that we were weird, Satanic, or even gay for liking this music. Anyway, in their brief tenure, they made some iconic and great music that has met the test of time. Listen to the album Unknown Pleasures, then work their their next album and collection of live performances and oddities. And course check out New Order. They kept some of the Joy Division feel and added dance and electronica.
My experience is very similar.
I'll never claim to understand it, but I can honestly say that I'm not at all surprised by that. Sorry in advance for the book I'm about to write! I grew up in the 90s (born in '84) listening to hip hop and rap, r&b, and reggae and dancehall with a smattering of house music.
My parents are from a small country in South America and rock music wasn't really something they listened to. I have two fairly older brothers and they weren't much interested in rock music either. We didn't have cable for a while growing up so my exposure to rock was very limited. Having said that I did have a couple favorite rock songs, but that's about it.
Queue the early 2000s, with the "indie rock" revival which borrowed heavily and/or mimicked post-punk, when I saw an Interpol music video and was instantly drawn to it. I joined their message board and it was mostly people just exchanging music recommendations. I learned about and listened to all of the bands who influenced my favorite band. My knowledge of music exploded and I absolutely fell in love with post-punk. It's my favorite genre of music along with the subgenres and related genres.
I can't even imagine how amazing it must have been to hear Joy Division for the first time. How amazing it must have been to experience the innovation in their music and that of their peers! ❤️
We used to cover this back in1981. I feel old.
So did we.
This is a classic, it'll never get old. Curtis, like Cobain, left us too soon. Another case of "What if". However, New Order rose out of the ashes and left us a lot of great music. Hope you check them out, they'll even get you dancin'.
So thrilled you have scratched the Joy Division surface. Just the thought of Ian Curtis and his talent overwhelms me and makes me shiver. With only 2 albums to their name, (Unknown Pleasures is a must) they are by far one the most influential acts to ever come out of the U.K. : tragic, dark, daunting and beautiful.
This album rolled in our house.... RIP Ian Curtis. New Order continued rolling after that
Clicked on that so quick.....welcome to the 80s Joy division were all about Hooks baselines and Curtis’s distinctive vocal style
I have not heard this before, that I can recall anyway. Interesting, liked the drumming and lyrics but not something I will play myself. Thanks for the introduction Daniel, always learning something new here.
This reminded me of the times I shared music with a friend knowing it would blow their mind while I am happily watching their reaction . Great channel, man !
OMG you're making this old punter so happy!!
Bands I've seen back in the day
Ramones
Buzzcocks
Clash
Dead Kennedy's
So on and so on
Welcome to my wheelhouse. For a year this was the designated song I played driving to a party or picking up,a girl for a date. Iconic.
This version was recorded live off the Studio floor for a BBC Radio program called The John Peel Show.
John Peel was an iconic DJ who championed a lot of underground punk and post punk music. He was a big fan of Joy Division. Had them on his program twice.
Ian died same day as Mount St Helens eruption. Lived in Seattle at the time. You could see the volcanic cloud to the South. A year later you could buy glass vial with ash, also they made glass from the ash too.
Thes an awesome movie about Ian Curtis called “Control”. You should watch it. It’s really good.
I grew up listening to New Order a lot. Thank you for the great reaction. This song is a classic.
I had this on a cassette that a friend made me back in the day. The melancholic tone always appealed to me and still does. I think I prefer the studio version but that may be just because it's what I know. Cool to see you do some 80's bands.
It's always sad to see young people listening to Joy Division for the first time, wondering why they lasted for such a short period and then finding out what happened.
Fortunately New Order were also excellent and everything they released between 1983 and 1989 was pretty much perfect. There are also two great films on the subject of Joy Division and New Order, "Control" and "24 Hour Party People" respectively, that help to tell the story.
This song is an anthem. New Order had some success in the states.My favorite is Blue Monday
Such an Iconic song
I like the flaws to the live song, but the studio version should be the one judged. It would have been neat to do the live and studio back-to-back as one video.
Agree, the studio version is slower and more haunting.
After seeing the movie Control based on Ian Curtis’s life I became a fan
glad you listened to this version first. so raw.
If and when love tears us apart, it can be described as joy division. Unintentional irony, great song choice :)
Insightful / witty as usual.
@@daveking9393 Hey Dave! ;)
Oh yeah! Some of the music I was listening to when I was your age in the clubs. Glad you are taking a listen. New Order Blue Monday is awesome. I would recommend Dead Souls by Joy Division. Trent Reznor did a great cover of Dead Souls on "The Crow" soundtrack.
I rarely like covers, but certainly do enjoy the NIN cover. I might be biased though since I heard it before the original 😉
RIP Ian.
My fav reaction so far
I have the love will tear us apart single
"She's Lost Control"
Quite simply one of the best bands to have walked the earth..... their albums can initially be a difficult listen , but given time it all, falls into place...... and if you are into your lyrics.... Curtis was a poet
And just like that I'm back at the City Club in Detroit, dancing until 4am.
This live version is good, but a little rushed and abrubt. I strongly recommend the single, it really captures the intense emotion and longing.
Not live. It is Joy Division's Peel Session version.
They were great. Still have a bootleg cassette called "Unknown Pleasures" that I play ever so often. My favourite song from them is "She lost control" - or was it "Shadowplay"? Doesn't matter, they're all good.
Hey Daniel please let me know what happened with Tull's Living in the Past?
My fav Joy Division tune is New Dawn Fades..give it a listen
I hope you dive deeper into this band, I absolutely adore them...
Henvenly Music. Happy that you discovered it ! Keep on with New Order, my favourite band.
"Atmosphere" could be Joy Division's best song, or the lesser known "I Remember Nothing." My favorite is the latter, followed closely by "These Days," all great pieces by JD. It's hard to think of a bad song by them. They had a tremendous influence upon me as a songwriter and singer, and upon my bands from the summer of 1983 on out. It would be well worth it to react to both of their studio albums, 'Unknown Pleasures' and 'Closer.' JD was very influential on many bands that followed, including their contemporary, U2, then Nine Inch Nails and Radiohead, among many others. Thank you so much for choosing Joy Division for your channel, and thank you for your channel.
Most Radiohead fans might disagree with me, but I thought their Album "The Bends" was ten times better then "Ok Computer". Also, In my opinion New Order is up their with with Depeche Mode in creating the 80's sound, though what they created was a shadow of what they actually were.
such a classic,it never grows old
I di scovered Joy Division relatively late, via Closer. That LP, given his impending suicide, is positively chilling, and please note that there's another way of pronouncing "Closer". Worth exploring, imo.
Hey fellow JD fans: Not familiar with the Peel Sessions version. Just my imagination, or was this version sped up? Why did getting to Joy Division take so long? More suggestions - Isolation, She's Lost Control, Atmosphere, Atrocity Exhibition.
I’ve heard other early versions that were fast. I think it’s better played slower, even slower than the studio version honestly.
this is a live session from John Peel Radio Show not the original version.
Steve Morris you are drum machine man!
Paul Young did a cover on this song on his album No Parlez.
Other post punk songs that deserve a listen are Public Image by Public Image Ltd and Another Girl Another Planet by The Only Ones. And Where's Capt Kirk by Spizzenergi because it reminds me of good times
Never heard this one. Yet again I am broadened by DDR.
I am actually keen to see your reaction to one of my favorite tracks from a then underground Argentine band called 'Sumo' . The song is 'Estallando Desde el Océano' . Really great bit of post punk.
The Clash will blow your mind....some songs
Ghetto defendant
Train in vain
Janie Jones
Rock the casual
London calling
Straight to hell......so many more
Magnificent 7 and Lost in the Supermarket. My 2 favorite songs. Saw them many times. Still in my top 10 bands/artists.
@@foxandscout nice......ya so many great songs
I'm so bored with the USA
Bank robber
Stay free
Arg l could go on
My first mosh pit was Ramones...changed my life!
Personally, I think the studio version is much better.
You say that but the drumming on this version is unreal
agree. this one´s to fast
I suppose we have MTV to thank for groups like Joy Division. When MTV launched 40 years ago this August 1 its play list was dominated by British groups. Were it not for MTV Americans may not ever hear a group like Joy Division. American radio would have a had time playing this kind of music. British labels gave videos to MTV for free it helped the network fill its schedule. American labels wanted money for videos.They saw MTV as a radio station and wanted royalties.
It's so hard to listen to, knowing the agony he was in, and that he'd soon take his life. But JD made some incredible music, they're well worth a deep dive. No one else like them before or since. BTW it's unknown whether or not he actually had the affair. He certainly loved the Belgian girl, and his widow believes it was consummated, but the girl denies it, and Ian's not here to settle the matter. But whoever wrote that shouldn't state an opinion as fact.
You really should do a reaction to the British band Van der Graaf Generator. If you are daring you start with the 23 minutes epic "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" from their 1971 album "Pawn Hearts". They are an absolutely uncompromising band, and "Pawn Hearts" is one of the most experimental albums ever. Nevertheless the album was a huge success in Italy; it was at the number one position in the Italian album charts for 12 weeks.
"A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" has it all - quiet passages of great beauty alternate with extremely aggressive parts that border on total chaos. It even has two ships colliding in the fog. The song is about a lighthouse keeper that gets mad from all the accidents he had to helplessly watch.
P.S. The biopic called 'Control' captures it all perfectly. If you ever get the chance it's a great film. th-cam.com/video/xUz6y6ANIgE/w-d-xo.html
FFS will someone PLEASE do a different damn JD song that this one? Try Disorder, Shadowplay, Interzone, Dead Souls, She's Lost Control, Atmosphere, Walked the Line, Decades, Isolation, Transmission, and finally, Ceremony. PLEASE.
Twenty Four Hours, The Eternal.
Bro, chillax. The production on this was much different than the studio and it is simply an intro for Daniel. Hopefully he will get to the others when he can.
Chill the smurf out.
Transmission.
They have more than one song?!
@@Lwize this is what many people thought but didn’t say.
Rip Ian, still on the chart of great! OMG, this is one of the best songs of its time! Please pay attention to where and when, but then, how would you know what then was like?
Ian curtis was a lyrical poet.
00:33 Great stuff
Love the song! Please check out Paul Young's version. It is much more seducing and theatrical. Young's voice mixes so well.
Thanks for posting a terrific song.
Dead Souls is my favourite: th-cam.com/video/MhEm4S-4v_U/w-d-xo.html
You should listen to dead souls by joy division and blue Monday by new order
Great reaction. I didn’t expect Joy Division. Do more Joydivision if it moves you. Both of their albums were very good and influential but not very popular unfortunately. There are some live videos of Joydivision on youtube. The best cover of this song ( IMHO) is by the Swans with Jarboe on vocals. Really brings out the lyrics. Thanks. th-cam.com/video/jtO8qItNShU/w-d-xo.html
Have you heard this one?
The way he sings, "and there's still this appeal..." summed up the desperation, imo.
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@@theplanetruth oh yes I listened to it under your other post. It does have great dynamics and shifted the tempo a bit. A very good cover it is. There is a lot more potential in this song than JD utilized. I’ve heard this song performed in many different styles.
Hi could you please react to Bob Dylan's 'Murder Most Foul' which was released in 2020, thanks!!!!
a rambling masterpiece
I would strongly suggest listening to the original album cut of this song, it's better. You can hear it on the official video, and see Ian and the band perform it.
Band became New Order
I love that you break song lyrics down.thanks
Could you please check out Beautiful girl by Inxs
I’m the only one by Melissa Etheridge
Think twice by celine Dion
Would love for you to check out Gary Numan, perhaps M.E.
If you ever do movie reactions try 24 Hour Party People... Or just watch it because it’s good. Joy Division has a big part in it.
When you listin who it’s not perfect thats not like top 10 group. Just and you get it after winning 38 Grammys and 100 000 000 albums and the biggest 12 inch album
Their best song is Atmosphere, imho.
Definitely not the radio version, which had a lot more atmosphere to the vocals. Still good but not the same one that made us all dance like crazy in the club.
Only another million to go! Prefer Eric Clapton "Tearing Us Apart" as a genre pick but as its own there are so many like Roxy Music, Lou Reed, Iggy Pop (who did the awesome music for the Movie "Repo Man.") The Cars have some of this vibe as does early Police releases.
Some B-52 magic working here as well.
This isn't the version from the album which sounds slightly different and is better in my opinion. You should definitely give Blue Monday a listen from New Order. It's amazing.
This will be completely new to me I have no idea what this is about. Thanks for the ride.
I was like you after hearing the song that was pretty good and then after you did the lyrics...
I liked it more. Still not my cup of tea...
To be honest, they’re pretty boring and the songs are quite miserable. But I liked them at the time, and their legacy has put my opinion into perspective.
@@seanie002 I can see that but there is also something bold and beautiful about those records that was quite unique.
@@Hartlor_Tayley that’s why opinions are subjective. ‘Isolation’ and ‘24 hours’ stayed with me all these years, but not much else 🤷♂️
@@seanie002 I remember at the time being impressed by how different they were and their whole aesthetic was fresh but over time that aesthetic really became warped and overdone by many artists that came after them
Same here Dave
How old was this guy?
Ok computer!
The way RnR was the stupid opposite of actual change . For saddos .
This sounds like the standard version on speed. I'm not liking this.
Joy Division wrecked a great song by Joy Division. Studio version is memorable.