Ranking The Best Rappers Of All-Time | The Joe Budden Podcast
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- Joe, Rory, Mal and Parks rank the best rappers of all-time.
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"I think we put 50 rappers in the top 20"
Truer words have never been spoken.
They didn’t even put 15 in the top 20
@ Not what they meant
I agree with Rory though lol. You have to say it unfortunately lol
@@smalltrashman4227
After this conversation even I think I gotta be in top 20...
Alex kapa me too I’m in there 🙌🏼
You're in my top ten
@@digistanceman check out my top 5 DOA
😂😂
😂😂😂😂 agree
Joe: Mal where do you rank Lil Pump
Mal: top 20
Dej Life Chronicles 😂😂😷🤦🏽♂️
Lol
I almost choked 😭😭
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sleeping on GZA liquid swords is an all time album
Dan Devine your mind >
Thank you. Favorite Wu solo album ever
WestCoast rappers aren't known for their artistry or lyrical content. Though I really love ICE CUBE👍🏿...after that it's a little grim..Kendrick, and Crooked I are phenomenon, and definitely should get a mention in the top 20-50.
Puryear Venable Kendrick is definitely top 5, Cole is nowhere near top 60 hella overrated
No question
Mal is that dude that says NBA LIVE is better than 2K
Tone Anakin yeah Mal just be talking...sound smart but dumb af
Luck Johnson Yea Mal say dumb shit all the time.
Tone Anakin NBA street is better than 2K.
I know I'm late but he really said that?😂😂😂 no fuckin way maybe back b4 2k exist.....there was a time when NBA Live was the best basketball game ever tho
F*** A Username nba live 05 is the best nba game ever. Better than any 2k
Rory looking like the substitute teacher that lets you listen to music in class.
Yanky W
So accurate lmaoooo
lmaoo
damn 100% true
Lmao ✊🏾
Joe budden is definitely in my top 90-100
🤣😂🤣
I bet you feel so important right now...
Lol
😂😂😂
Top 2000 maybe
the lack of west coast is disturbing lol
This podcast is heavily east coast biased being someone thats from out west but loves this podcast its probably the most annoying thing about this podcast for me tbh
4:28
Bro west coast is waaaaaak ... it’s those funk noises that throw it off. By the way snoop , dre, and pac are/were legends
How you gonna count all these Source cover models above Earl the Ambassador?!
East coast is the shit bro...
Personally, it goes Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie. Andre from Outkast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me.
😉
Turd
But who's 10?
SPAWN_ Em and the rest
Tupac,BIG, slim and eminem lol
SPAWN_ that’s his top 10: he named 9 but everyone just takes it as read that Rakim #1 ☺️✌️
he gotta be top........ 20
Franco Mariani of course. He better be. He's nasty!
Franco Mariani KRS one, rakim, big daddy kane, chuck D, kool G rap, slick rick and ll cool j in their own top 10 in my opinion that fat fucker really think they top 20 c'mon men you don't know shit about real MC'S mase, ja rule, 50 cent whose those dudes are they ain't doing shit anymore
"FOR ME"
Franco Mariani lmao
Cam is definitely a top 10 rapper of the 00s (‘00-‘09)...that’s a fact 💯
Get rich or die trying is one of the greatest rap albums of all time. This dude is crazy.
Prob the greatest and highest selling
@@erkanyunis470 The eminem show sold 27 million records world wide, and marshall mathers lp sold 21 million
@@mrtjubb Nah, 30 mil+ both ( equivalent album sales) you're only counting physical copies
Every song on that album is a classic ever song
Not even close it’s a good club anthem album but not even a top 100 rap album ever
If anyone... Em got his blueprint from REDMAN... And Em acknowledges Reggie as his favorite rapper
LL was hij favorite rapper.
Can you explain why the fuck you called him by his first name?
Patrick Baar wrong Em has said this on record and on video
Red man is his favorite but I definitely don’t see the influence in Em’s music
This is pretty much what I was going to say, and anyone who doesn't have Redman in their at least top 15 is crazy
"Cam was the blueprint for Eminem" made no sense. I'm glad they moved on quickly
dka3596 he just misspoke, cam n Eminem were similar, a lot of ppl in the hood did think em took cam style, simply because 9/10x They heard cam b4 em
Ray Taker people also claim he bit canibus, need to make up their minds
gnarly sniff I don't see the comparison between can and em, I think canibus the better rapper/lyricist but Eminem the better artist
Ray Taker the fact that everyone is trying to say em copied other MCs just proves how delusional his haters are. Apperantly em bit off AZ, Cannibus cam nas etc. All bs.
Medelhavs Korv on infinite he sounded like nas but a lot rapper's after illmatic did
1. Dylan
2. Dylan
3. Dylan
4. Dylan
5. Dylan
delivrex Why?
delivrex most people don't understand this joke. If you weren't at least 13+ when making of the band came out...
It's a reference to the Iron Solomon vs E Ness battle . E Ness was in the show Making da Band with Dylan .... Dylan fucked him up in a fight So Iron Solomon mocked him and said in their battle, ""rappers that are better are Dylan Dylan Dylan and Dylan "" So it's a Joke. .. Got it?....Good!
I wanted to get this like 10 likes lol
delivrex because I spit hot fire!!!😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like Mal has about 50 rappers in his Top 20.
Trech is always SO underrated...his flow was so ahead of his time
Who tf
@@elijahangel2473 treach dumbass lol
Treach is definitely underrated as a rapper and influencer a lot of rappers stole treach style in the 90’s
This is FAR more entertaining & interesting then having the same old "Nas, Em, Pac, Jay, Biggie" conversations we've all heard a million times.
Isaiah Ross Yeah I hate those Nas, Em, Pac, Jay, Biggie, Kanye conversation just the worst
Can’t help that they were great artist, I mean for an artist in their early 20s to be spitting shit like a nigga in their 30s is goin to solidify their legacies at the top of the pile so i see nothing wrong with that
*than
Nas Em Pac Jay Biggie are still the greatest tho .And no one comes even close breaking this 5
Anybody that has Eminem anywhere near their top 5 is unseasoned as fuck.
So we are just going to ignore MF DOOM🤔
Edit REST IN POWER DOOM
Jamees Woodhouse who's doom
Jae KiDd All caps when you spell the mans name
DOOM is the butter smooth super villian with a fantastic 4 album back to back run
DOOM Del Kool Keith Ras Kass
Yes, because he's an overrated garbage rapper who only fantano dickriders like and white teens who think they know hip hop. Which is also the majority of fantano dickriders.
Mal really said Em stole Cam blue print lmao! Wtf is he talking about.
Hes talking about as far as cracking jokes on tracks.. the humor aspect...
He stole redmans blueprint...the alter egos and comedy styles n psychotic styles...drug rap...the whole thing...lol
@LostItt he was az n nas on his first album...n then he adopted the slim shady alter ego...the crazy eccentric goofy animated serial killer...which was just redman...n he was using his real name as an alternate ego...like Reggie noble...he was about popping pills...redman was about smoking weed...his videos were animated n goofy n humorous...theres alotta similarities...the only difference is...em evolved a lil more n started making songs about his personal life but his most critically acclaimed albums are when he was a a n angry comedic rapper like on his 1st two albums...plus he did make his version of Superman lover on the Eminem show which was a homage to redman too...
"I dont harlem shake im shakin the weight, shakin the jakes, kill you shoot the funeral up and harlem shake at ya wake." Cam would always find a funny way to say some hard shit... Kinda like em.
@LostItt cam was rapping like Eminem before Eminem...and I think em is top 5-10 but he def hasn’t influenced any rappers coming up
Never seen somebody so comfortable on there own podcast than joe budden💀
Any list that has Cam and Mase ahead of Prodigy is invalid.
Prodigy had hard bars. Painted crazy verbal pictures
Facts
Any list that has Cam and Mase in the top 20 or 25 should be thrown into a fire.
Straight up Mobb Deep fan since day one. I would put P & Cam close to each other. Arguable
Prodigy is way way more talented than cam. Wow
“Eminem took Cams blue print”
HUH?!
Because Camron was on that do drugs and sleep with your aunt shock rap stuff that Eminem was rapping about when the Slim Shady LP came out. Cam changed his style and subject matter when his second album came out.
@@ouncesthebasssnatcher5255 nah bruh, Em had Redman's blueprint
Em literally mentions who he gets his style from. He’s a combination of Pac , big , rakim, shabaz, etc
Budden is waiting to hear where they rank him. 😂😂😂
navagnaes nigga wat? Then I guess u can see similarities if u was supposed to compare anyone’s writing . Eminem ain’t get shit from Cam.
Sleeping on GZA? Man.
Joe with NO shoes on is my whole mood..😂❣👏🏾! my mans is sitting real comfortable lol
YOOOOOOO "has rakim ever spit a hook" is willd lmao
HAHAHAH
Ledge
Rakim spits lyrics of fury!
Mal looked straight hurt when they said Drake a pop star and not going on the list
Popstar not a doctor
Absolute truth tho
@@chrispy9736 lol savage 😂
@@chrispy9736 I hope we also exclude Lil Wayne from the list because he's a self professed "rockstar"
Truth
Joe Budden's laugh sounds like its coming from Lucifer himself
Lmao look at what's behind him ... 🤣
Lose Weight Jose L yeah do those posters have any meaning? They even take it to live shows
😂😂😂
Damn man watching this pod after seeing their success on Spotify, wow. Hats off to the team.
This dude really compared Camron to Em
This dude has lost his mind
Have you heard the album he's talking about?
Eric Davis yes I have. Cam ain’t no Em.
Cam is dope, but lyrically, it’s laughable to compare. Em will wipe the floor with Cam.
@@jerrygarcia1800 Yeah, but I don't think he was comparing him lyrically. No one would do that.
He didn’t compare cam to Em you fucking Stan he was saying Eminem was inspired by Cam which is true .
Eminem stole camron flow listen to confessions by Cam’ron
Joe Budden has helped me get over life's lows. That is why he is my #1
"Music is just what feelings sound like!"
AiS the Fisherman I feel that way about Z-Ro
AiS the Fisherman facts
harrythebarry LMFAOOOOO.
AiS the Fisherman Word. Joe is in my top 5
"I'd rather make da pen bleed & see da feelin ya get" "Are Ya In Da Mood Yet" Joe Budden 💯➕
GZA’s Liquid Swords album is 🔥🔥🔥
Josh Smith In My top 5 of All Time alongside Madvillainy, Enter The Wu, Illmatic and either Paid In Full or TPAB
They really ignored Joe asking where they’d put Big L on the list 🤧
If their answer wasn't minimum top 15 (should honestly be top 10) they're wrong
He top 5 MC
Top 40. If we're doing punchlines, and funny rhymes top 20.
He’s borderline top 10 for me
@@alpertoap Quality over quantity! Big L is easily top 10
The Game is a classic artist that I personally respect as a story teller and can fit so many beats and styles
The Game in a way is the West Coast’s 50 Cent, The Documentary was a classic
The game? He. Starts drama drop names to be relevant
The Slim Latino 50 Cent wrote the top 2/3 hooks on that album
And he is battle tested too lol
The game is Lame 😒
There is no way Mase should be in anyone's top 20. Seriously ?? That's ridiculous. Stop it.
Raye Will Word. When he said that I was liked this nigga bugging. Mase belongs in that lane with will smith .lol
Raye Will you must be young. Mase's flow is God level. Go listen to DMX niggas done started something goat verse
Mase is dope
Raye Will stfu bitch you probably just know him from all those p diddy videos in shit
MURDER MASE WAS HARLEM'S NUMBER ONE GUY FOR A LONG TIME AND WAS INSANELY DOPE
2Pacs music is timeless! 💯 I can still listen to it this day and it'll feel like the first time I heard it! And I liked that he talked about REAL shit...wasn't always the same degrading talk about sex, drugs and money....he had depth to his music. He accomplished so much in a short amount of time, there's no denying that. His music was ahead of that time, that's why you can still listen to it now and it sounds new. Tupac is definitely in my top 5.💖
💯💯 not one mention..wtf..
But we are listening to new yorkers soo
I like pac but stack bundles was even a better rapper
And max b too
@Jamaal Davis I know that...but he claimed the bay and LA
Still think Biggie was just better…not lyrically speaking but commercially and critically for sure
Sports Drugs and Entertainment (SDE) is often overlooked when talking about Cam. He was a bit more versatile dabbling with ish talking, storytelling, and conceptual songs. It made me pay attention to him and look forward to Come Home With Me.
I don't wanna hear Mal's opinion on ANYTHING.
I know that idoit said rick Ross better than the game 😂😂😂
He’s talking about the best of Wu Tang and not even mention the GZA 😔
Lucas Bicske lord superb >
Gza is nice but Cmon. Ghost, Rae, and Meth, and RZA are definitely the biggest Stand outs
I thought the same shit
Genius is one wordsmith
Facts......
15:24 first time I've ever seen Parks after watching these for 2 years
I haven’t watched some old JB podcast in a while so this is weirdly refreshing.
these dudes mentioned like 40 rappers in the Top 20 LMAO
Outside of the obvious picks there was no mention of Black Thought, Lupe, Royce, GZA, Pig Pun, Canibus, Fab, Lloyd Banks, and many more I am forgetting who could out rap many dudes
Pig Pun? Little disrespectful
This made me laugh so hard Joe's reactions were great
Joe's toes have me dying 😂😂 lol
Ghostface has the best catalogue of the WU, but best rapper is GZA.
Exactly
I think Meth is
@@MarkieB89 splish splash your opinion is trash
Inspectah Deck
I think Best rappers overall for me would be Ghost and Rae but best lyricists of the group are Gza and INS
Ice Cube never comes up in the conversation but he's top 5 for me...
VZA thank you my fave rapper of all time and one of the biggest impacts
Ice Cube gets underrated because he mostly sticks to fundamental rhyme schemes over virtuosity, but he’s definitely top 5 in the storytelling department.
Ice cube is a legend no doubt, but personally i just dont think he would even land in my top 10. Like someone else said he sticks to the fundamentals, which isnt such a bad thing, but it doesnt lead me to believe he can really do anything that most rappers cant
He's always in my top 5
Facts
Im just shocked that ppl can have 2pac behind anyone after what dude accomplished in that short of time. Impact,sales,work ethic etc... The nigga body of work is literally untouchable!
Name everything greta Pac has done, I'm not saying he isn't but I swear people just say Pac the greatest because it's a horde mentality but most dont even know why
@@yikes313 His music is timeless! I can still liaten to it this day and it'll feel like the first time hearing it! And I liked that he talked about REAL shit...wasn't always the same degrading talk about sex, drugs and money....he had depth to his music. He accomplished so much in a short amount of time, there's no denying that. His music was ahead of that time, that's why you can still liaten to it now and it sounds new. Tupac is definitely in my top 5.
@@ashleyelizabeth6435 Nas and Biggie did more skillful, deep street shit compared to Pac in the same window of time. Pac was good but it's events that took place outside of the studio that really raised his status
He's not the only rapper with timeless classics which to speak of that have passed on. People like you seem to put him on a pedestal and I just don't understand why. Perhaps you could explain to me.
He's a technically flawed rapper. There's a difference between "entertainer" than "rapper".
@@buzwemaka7264 “deep street” no they didn’t their content was not close to Pacs. You could say their lyrics were better though.
the Em album we don't count is "Infinite" in 1996. the Slim Shady EP came out in '97 followed by the LP in 1999, and obv MMLP in 2000
AyJay Slim shady came out 99 then MM LP in 00 fuck is you talking about goofy
the GZA disrespect smh
Bryant Fluker He might have the best wordplay period!
Em took Cam blueprints? wtf this cat smoking? o_0
Dudes a Jay z Stan and because a lot of people think Eminems better than Jay he holds a grudge against him. He's hated on Em for a lot of things from the early podcasts till now...
@@seanturner3447 to his defense , comparing em to jay is disrespectful
Sean Turner bitch stfu he doesn’t hate Eminem stop making excuses you Eminem Stans are the WORST
Justin Richardson I swear to God bruh. Eminem Stan’s are the most toxic ever.
@@goalfactory5040 true because gay z is fucking ass only niggas from the northeast think he's top 5
I'd like to see a in depth analysis done for various top 25 lists by a mix of knowledgeable hip-hop/rap heads of different ages based on things like impact, discography, rapping skills and abilities because then you can lay down lists based more on facts than swayed opinions
Me too.
Yeah tired of the same old mentions. They dont listen to hip hop foreal cause if they did they would name the underground goats.
If you gotta say “it might be a classic” it’s not a classic fam.
Big facts
Facts
if Prodigy had passed after Murda Muzik, he would be rated top 10 any day of the week. RIP Prodigy though.
Phaeer factz but it doesn't applies to me cuz i love his whole catalog mos favourite could be Hell on earth
Phaeer may he rest in hip hop heaven.
Top to bottom murder Muzik top 5 albums put together
Mal thought he had a dope hot take with that Eminem shit.
This, was an insightful and in-depth Podcast👋
Early in the process Joe Budden podcast.
Fascinating.... Joe talking the most sense and the child in the high chair unable to differentiate between classic and his opinion.
Lol child in the high chair is crazy 😂
New School
1 Biggie
2 2Pac
3 Jay-z
4 Nas
5 Eminem
Old School
1 Rakim
2 Kool G Rap
3 KRS 1
4 LL Kool J
5 Big Daddy Kane
ANTHONY MOORE Dope list.
ANTHONY MOORE big and the rest not new school 🤣
Deletection Key middle school 😂
ANTHONY MOORE Daaamn... no offense, but you must be old as fuck, if you label 2Pac, B.I.G, Eminem, Nas and Jay Z as “New school”.
R/\P M\/ZIK Oh, okay that makes more sence, thanks.
you don't realize you're in the good old days until its too late. I miss this era of the pod
1. Matty B
2. Lil Nas X
3. Omarion
4. MGK
5. Clarence (the guy who destroyed Eminem)
6. Pitbull
7. Iggy
8. Lil Romeo
9. Riff Raff
10. Nick Cannon (possibly #1)
Clarence looooooooooool u stupid
U tripping
This joke wasn't funny
Naseer Williams yet you took the time to leave your opinion anyway lmao
You’re dumb
Vlad- "where do y'all rank Slim Jesus?"
I love Cam but I also love hiphop. I could name 40 rappers better than Cam. Sorry 😐
Fish & Boxing Luis Casillas your lying to yourself
Fish & Boxing Luis Casillas Name 30
Jay Klappa How? So they aren't 40 more lyrical rappers than killa?
No there aint
Name 10 with more charisma, unique flow and insane personality. Cam one of a kind
Need to see this list
They should do this topic again after having a week to write out their top 20 lists.
Did this nigga say Ja had a better catalog than 50? 50's mixtape catalog than anything Ja has ever released
Tone Anakin yeah that nigga was buggin
Da Crew Venni Vetti Vecci was pretty ill tho
+Benny Blanco idc if it was aight. It does not fuck with 50's shit.
Tone Anakin catalog, are buggin? Ja is a better version of 50. Ja was running the charts in late 90's and early 2000's. All of 50's mixtapes were him stealing songs or hooks remixing it. Ja had straight pop hip hop classic
Adisa Oxendine early 2000s not late 90s
These dicussions are almost impossible to have because there are so many varying factors .... influence, impact, lyricism, versatility, longevity, creativity, passion, punching ability, classics, hits etc. Depending on what fans like most or which attributes they favor more ... there will always be clashes and arguments.
Comment God thats what makes it great
punching ability? this aint boxing lol
Lifestraight just in case you aren't joking ... Some fans favor punchlines as their favorite attribute when it comes to ranking rappers ... Its a lot of niggas who got Cassidy top 5
Dj premier says paid in full is the best rap album period, and when someone commented about Illmatic he said it can’t even be mentioned next to paid in full
i died laughing when mal said “did rakim ever spit a hook?”😂😂😂😂😂
im convinced joe is just a troll
I thought I was the only one that knew Game produces QUALITY albums...
Game has albums where almost every song had a feature. STOP!!!!! No cohesion, lack of content, etc.
So what if they're full of features, it's quality music either way...His cohesion is a hit or miss I'll give you that, but The Documentary, Doctor's Advocate, Jesus Piece, Documentary 2 & 2.5 are all well put-together albums and his overall production is TOP NOTCH
RashBoogieTV Game is personally my fav him and Ye best albums classics plus Games mixtapes
RashBoogieTV the only one?! He's sold million of records and worked with some of the best hip-hop producers of course you ain't the only one
+TheIGGod Chronic is a feature on every single song. Try and tell us that Chronis isn’t a top 5 all time album...
Top 5 wrappers1) aluminum2) plastic3) tin foil4) paper5) bubble wrap
REPLY
KFC Manager This is mad funny
Aluminum is number 1, but only non sticky!
I learned a lot from this. Gotta listen to a lotta shiz.
We need a Eminem Vs Lil Wayne Versus battle
@Jared Hutchins eh I doubt it. Just music. Shit and if Wayne goes in the mixtape bag he prolly going to win tbh
Wayne will literally slaughter Em
Wayne would drop Em. There are very very few people that could out rap Em, but Wayne is one of them
For me it’s Wayne but em is a close behind
@@Dwyanerose good joke dawg
This guy put Confessions of Fire on the same level as the Purple tape?? 🤣🤣🤣..... His word can no longer be looked at as relevant.
Nas, Joey, Scarface, Lupe, Eminem, 2pac, Busta Rhymes, Prodigy, Redman, Biggie. Boom. Top Ten.
you're putting Cole over Royce, Prod, Kurupt, Jada, 50, Game, Xzibit... fucking Dave East is better than Cole
The Red Eye Family Official J Cole busts his ass lyrical & commercially.
Man imagine being the 5th guy there having these convos late night nothing but vibes
11:55 I have never laughed harder in my entire life 😂😂😂😂😂
My list personally
1. Tupac
2.Lil Wayne
3.Nas
4.Eminem
5.Kendrick Lamar
6. J cole
7.Biggie
8.50 cent
9.Twista
10.Busta Rhymes
my top 20 list in no order: em, jayz, nas, andre 3000, biggie, 2pac, black thought, mos def, lupe, dmx, pharoahe monch, ghost face, jadakiss, rakim, ice cube, busta, kool g rap, redman, KRS-one, canibus
This proves that this conversation is impossible to have. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Joe playing with his toes @5:50 is CRAZY 😂
Here’s my rankings of Hov’s albums.
1. Blueprint
2. Black Album (my favorite)
3. Reasonable Doubt
4. American Gangster
5. Blueprint 3
6. Vol. 2
7. 4:44
8. Blueprint 2
9. Vol. 1
10. Dynasty Album
11. Magna Carta
12. Vol. 3
13. Kingdom Come
Phil Malavarca 4:44 is pretty low on your list imo lmao.
Mitch Geiger I have it that low cause I think a majority of the beats on the other albums are better than most of the ones on 4:44. Still a great album.
Kingdom Come is his highest selling first week from memory, jayz discography isn’t great
Trash discography
@@joeljoseph9017 you said in other videos:
"Nas and Jayz are goats"
"Lil Wayne is not better than Nas and Hov"
But Jay-Z discography is trash ?
People sleep on the game " red album" that shit bumps
no1 never put games in a top 10 debate but for me he's 100% got to be in 10 top but for me he's even top 5 ever... the red album he's amazing but doc 1 doc 2 2.5 and Jesus peice all better
@@lukec9845 documentary and doctors advocate are 2 of the best albums I've ever heard, game goes hard asf, not a big fan of his albums after that but those first 2 albums were easily enough for him to make my top 10.
@@takeitorfuckyou personally Jesus peice is my favourite game album, with doc 1 and 2 n 2.5, he's new born 2 rap album pretty decent Aswell, he's a legend man
@@lukec9845 100% agree man he's a legend for sure, born 2 rap was solid asf, Westside bumps and gives me old school game vibes, and gangstas make the world go round goes hard aswell, that "They hatin', n***a, let 'em hate
Bring this Draco to your living room and let it decorate" was a Chris Pratt OMG gif moment for me lol he absolutely destroyed that flow that whole album had some killer lines no doubt, I'd have to say my top 10 would be
2pac
Biggie
Nas
Em
Big L
Ice cube
Jay-Z
Game
Mobb deep (Prodigy)
50
Brake lights is nice too
Immortal Tehnique, Nas, Big L, Raekwon, Ice Cube, Big Pun, 2pac, Biggie, Jay Z, Eminem
No Particular Order.
I'm probably forgetting a couple, but this was what came straight to my head
Is Joe really sitting barefoot on a leather couch😂😂😂😂 I'd love to have a conversation/ hangout with Buddens.
Inspectah Deck so underrated, not just in Wu-Tang, in Hip Hop in general.
facts
Yes deck is amazing
7:36 to Rory’s point, I know they tried to rank Mase, but he might be the perfect example of a legendary rapper with only 1 classic album in his catalog.
Mmmmphhh depends on who you ask. I've never listened to it but ask a guy like charlemagne or even parks (which is a documented convo look up mase joe budden and you should see charlemagne) Harlem world to them isnt classic simply because it havent aged well. His words not mine as a matter of fact I'm finna go watch that rn so excuse me
Donny Jones So then name a legendary rapper with one classic album. Jay Electronica?
Confessions of Fire came out in ‘98 & The Slim Shady LP came out in ‘99 but remember, albums are done damn near a year prior to release back in those days
This the episode that put me on to this podcast
I’m born 1990, no order my top 10 at this current moment of thought.
Eminem
Nas
Kendrick
Mos Def
Pusha T
Biggie
Pac
J cole
Prodigy
Black Thought
Russian Bot Great list
andre 3000 shouldn't be on the list, he doesn't even have not even 1 solo rap album so he hasn't proven himself, dmx should also not be on that list, prodigy shouldn't be on that list either
1.) Nas
2.) Tupac
3.) Andre 3000
4.) Rakim
5.) Lupe Fiasco
6.) Black Thought
7.) Jay-Z
8.) Common
9.) Eminem
10.) MF DOOM
Drake is Hip-Hop no matter what anyone says btw..
"Some say hating is confused admiration"
@@dylangruenwald5005 how are you going to put andre 3000 on the list when he doesn't even have not even 1 solo rap album so he hasn't proven himself, an artist can sound good when in a group but a lot of them fail once they do solo albums and this guy hasn't even made not even 1 rap album in his whole career, he shouldn't be on the list
@@wolverinelogan2039 Well he actually does have a solo album. The love Below(Andre 3k) and Speakerboxx(Big Boi) were both a double solo disc CD album and it's in fact the most sold Hip-Hop project to date.
I used to think he was overrated as well btw. I would recommend checking out Aquemini, that Andre 3k no one could top in my opinion btw. Not even Illmatic Nas
I understand NY cats gonna side with NY but I know mad cats that was bumping Chronic Doggystyle and many other non-NY albums
I was wondering this shit as a New York head
Alot of shit they mentioned was ny shit
Meek mill's affect on Drake is really felt here. Before the beef, I think he might've made many peoples top 50 list but the ghostwriting ha brought a huge amount of doubt to his pen skills Even if he has skills, that cloud of doubt will follow him in the true hip hop community for a long time. His foray into pop also sours his ranking too.
Never would've made my top 50 he's always been mediocre to above decent to me
@@jaleelthompson927 straight facts but if we being honest drizzy can really spit he one of the greats without a doubt
@@ayreezy4141 nah he really not if you talking lyrics, flows, uniqueness, punch lines, rhyme structures he's not even top 50 for most real rap heads
Drake top ten
Y'all insane. Drake is top 10. Y'all gonna have to hate on some of the best rap songs ever to deny drake that
People be sleeping on Cam, come home with me is a definite classic
It can be hard to put certain legends before your time high up on the list. Kind of like a lot of really young gamers might not appreciate Super Nintendo, Dreamcast, or N64 the way someone who grew up during that time does. I prefer the classic game consoles and I know my reasoning is partially biased. You remember the excitement you felt when a console or record came out. The music of some legends (just like some old games) age/transcend time better than others. I personally think Rakim's music has aged very well because he was so ahead of his time lyrically that most of his rhymes don't sound dated and you can hear his influence in the styles of a lot of rappers that came out after him. Rakim would be in my top 20. KRS One, on the other hand, wouldn't make my top 40. I know many people put him in their top 10 but I don't get it. I don't get the hype around his music, although I know a lot of the importance in what he contributed to hip-hop.
Joshua McCool real talk...ur right even though games gotten better in graphics nothing will beat Golden Eye, Smash brothers, Smack down here comes the pain and MK3...that was my weekend as a kid in the basement
Alot of younger cats don't know about real hip hop point blank n appreciate lyricism n a phat dark ass beat like us kats that came up in the 80's n 90's, im 1980 myself so I was the perfect age to have all this great music comin out when I was a teenager n even a couple of years b4 that, my first hip hop album was EAZY DUZ IT so that's like 88. Us older kats can't handle (n rightly so) when some 18 Yr old tries to spit on the golden era type rappers who are sooo much better than most of the the bigger new rappers (underground has always had proper spitters), i do like Joey Baddass n kendrick, oh n schoolboy Q for that street shit but those kinds of artists are givin a big nod to the 90's hip hop. I jusr don't get why people have to try n fix something that ain't broken na mean. I'd rather listen to an older mc anyways that has lived a bit of life n been round the tracks a few times cause they got a real story to tell but what does some teenage mc have to say that your gonna feel apart from the rare young ones that have lyrical concepts that go past their years like Nas, Mobb Deep n shyhiem back in the day. They were all mad young when they came out n apart from Mobbs first attempt they were all classic albums that had concepts u would expect to come from a rapper over ten years older than they were when they dropped their first proper debut albums (I don't count mobb Deeps very first album b4 their balls had dropped n their voices still sounded like little kids) but the infamous to me was their proper debut their voices were deeper n that QB slang they used made a dope album same with Nas he really sounded older with the content he was spittin n the maturity he shows on ILLMATIC aswell just like the MOBB n Shyhiem was representin when he was like 14 even b4 the wu tang affiliation but it wasn't no bow wow or soldier boy pop soundin kid shit he was rappin bout the real n u believed him even though he was so young n just as a testament to the respect he had he was on stage droppin freestyle with Biggie, Tupac n big daddy Kane, 3 legends at that young age if you've heard the full version of that live show at the garden or somewhere similar, usually u only hear the Biggie n tupac part where biggies like wot u gonna do with it tupac at the end of his verse but pac drops one of his popular ryhmes think Biggie did the same so not really freestyle but defo a cypher but on stage in front of a massive crowd. Sorry I got a bit carried away tryin to make my point man, I hope u got it in there somewhere ma man ✌️
Don't agree bout KRS 1 the music he did in the early to mid 90's was hella dope but I see your point with the older stuff he was on the BDP stuff, u listen to that now n it does sound dated well most of it anyway, still love 9mm from the criminal minds album with Scott la rock(R I P) BUT songs like a freind n step into the world n most of all the song called THE MC now that song will be dope til the word ends if u haven't heard it look it up that song is a true classic from KRS
totally right
@Phony Mex r Chris
Pac....me against the world, all eyez on me, makaveli- three classics
Ardavon N me against the world is the greatest album of all time
Naw bro 3 super classics
Nah Fam... All Eyes On Me
2paclapyse as well.
You’re def a fan bc only AEOM is a classic out of those
Mannnn! I miss this!
T.I. Paper Trail is a classic album to me. And his life testimony imbedded in it 💯
Great album but Trap Musik and Urban Legend are far better
Ti definitely ain’t a top 20 rapper
Paper trail was probably his best commercial album but king is the one
10.J Cole- conscious rap in modern day
9.Andre 3000-versatility in dynamics with conscious modern rap
8.Nas-conscious rap and one of the pioneers with a legacy
7.Drake-musicality along with conscious with cross over appeal
6.Biggie- One of the Pioneers of lyrical word play
5.Lil Wayne-lyrical word play and one of the first rappers with cross over appeal
4.Jay Z-Conscious rap with cross over appeal and longevity
3. PAC- Poetic delivery with various content. He also had a huge catalog with such short time.
2. 👑 Nicki Minaj-I know a lot are gonna read this and wonder why she’s listed so high. Nicki has the ability to jump on almost any track of any genre and can ride the beat. Crazy lyrical word play with multiple entendres with the ability to switch dynamics a few times within 1 track. Quite skilled at delivering a verse to any song. Gives personality to her verses with cross over appeal. She doesn’t get much credit for her skill because she’s a female but she honestly competes with the males.
1. 👑 Eminem- He has a way of giving his verses personality. Can deliver with killer speed & execution. He has multiple dynamics with some word and let’s not forget his longevity.
Reality is that you can’t have this conversation without having sub categories, some lyrical rappers aren’t as influential as mainstream ones, or some some lyrical rappers run circles around the the mc’s who paved the way, you can’t have one without the other. It’s always going to be a biased conversation because some people deserved more recognition than others. Big L can rap circles around Tupac but L didn’t have an impact on hip hop as pac did. You have to sub categorize or you’re just talking subjectively
Do a video of everytime Joe was bullying Joe that was so funny
They need to just individually compile a top 50 list lol.. This is going in circles