Spiderman star Willem Dafoe plays alongside Charlotte Gainsbourg in one of this year's most controversial movies: Lars von Trier's Antichrist.. Follow us on twitter at / itn_on Test
It's so odd and kind of funny how he seems like such a nice, kind guy, but he's played so many evil people, it's almost absurd how normal he is in real life.
Really? I finished the movie and feeling unbelievably bored and disappointed after reading how hard it is to watch... Well it was because I almost fell asleep a few times.
I saw this movie six years ago and I STILL have no idea what it's about. I love it aesthetically, but I wish I could fully comprehend what he was trying to convey.
There were themes of grief, recovery from grief from the bizarre living in the unreal impossible idyllic past in the initial stage (when you only think of golden memories of the departed) through a tunnel of numbness and pain, the mutilation because when you lose someone close to you a part of you dies. The theme of nature with it's constant struggle, cruelty, death and birth cycles in meaningless indifference v the way humans romanticise the importance of their existence. Chaos reigns means there is no meaning, there is no safe place, there is no stopping and staring - everything moves on remorselessly and the horror perhaps is to retain deep capacity for feeling amidst that.
It doesn't fit very well :) You could find interpretations of it that fit but i won't try. There is a Garden of Eden association with this movie, Adam and Eve cast out of 'paradise' (hell in this 'antichrist' version) and if i recall that was blamed on the woman.
They are not cast out of Antichrist's Garden of Eden, they are cast into it from 'heaven' (their perfect memories of their son alive, the golden before) and it is not a place of eternal life, harmony but the opposite a place of ravaging decay, entropy, remorseless change and death. People look at him attacking her and say it is misogynist but they forget that this Garden of Eden is not a nice place, everything is reversed - you would want to be cast out of (qualify from) this place (this grieving depression process) - in that sense i remember seeing Defoe's act as possibly heroic... It is the actual 'perfect' opening scene which is unnatural and excruciating and antilife, we cannot live in the detritus of a broken heart, he would be a monster if he had tried to pin her there - instead he takes her to the forest where her pain is mirrored around her and eventually martyrs her out of it.
Just watched this movie last night. It was very unsettling and very disturbing imagery throughout the film, I can't get out of my mind. It had a huge effect on me. Might watch again now that I know what to expect, but this movie definitely isn't for the faint of heart.
He got a depression when he started on the movie but he have had several depressions before that. He has struggled with social anxiety disorder and anxiety attacks since he was about 5 years old; so it is very unlikely that this depression was caused because of the movie he was working on.
When I say this movie, I was a little bit disturbed by the brutality of it all but I still found it to be one of the best movies I have ever seen. It was well shot, scripted, and acted that it seemed like all of this was real. Needless to say this movie was a little hard to watch at points, but still amazing. Nothing in the mainstream media on the big screen can even compare.
I think if one was really going to appreciate Antichrist then they would have to be more open-minded and less offended by things they don't understand. People criticize because they find things offensive to them. If we just expanded our minds and lengthened our perception of material that is different or unusual then we can reach towards understanding such things. Repeating close-minded people are clearly insulted by something they fail to understand correctly because they can't open their mind
I can imagine how annoying it can be just to get answered questions about graphic content in the film you were in. I bet all he gets asked in interviews is the extreme scenes, while he probably wants to just talk about the film's themes and such.
I love when you can tell someone has no idea what they're talking about - the reporter has this completely vacant stare as Willem - a master of his craft - tries to explain the unexplainable - "how do you act so well?" That's like asking Stephen King "how do you write?"
The beginning is absolutely the most stunning intro i have ever seen in a film. Gorgeous beyond measure. If you cant stomach through the whole thing at least watch the first ten minutes!! :D
@L7blackwhite I couldn't agree more. The real horror, for me, is forcing you to confront things that a lot of us are trained to ignore for the sake of sanity.
Stunning performance by both Dafoe and Gainsbourg. Antichrist is demanding but it's really interesting and profound on many levels. A great piece of cinema work which asks to be watched a few times to catch and decipher the countless details Von Trier carefully spread throughout the whole movie.
to the movie. i expected to see an ordinary horror movie. i totally underrated this film. its a powerful, scarring, catching and breathtaking film. william dafoe is amazing in those roles. he clearly is in his element. if someone would ask me who are the top 2 actors for movies like ANTICHRIST i would say Anthony Hopkins and William Dafoe. to dafoe. he is a totally underrated actor. i haven`t seen a film with him where he doesn`t do an amazing job. he is one of the best actors alive.
My opinion at the end. A tribute to Tarkovsky. But he did not create such scenes to touch your emotions. Some director just trying to create attention, that's the marketing. So it will create a buzz.
Besides some people missed when Dafoe said "if you're open to the ride great things can happen." That's the same for both the people who acted in the film and the people who watch the film
There's simulated sex and real sex. Almost all movie sex you see is simulated, but occasionally you get the real thing. It's something that really only happens if those involved feel the material demands it.
Yes I know it's acting, I've made a few short films myself. But I'm sure there are some actors that you probably wouldn't want to see by your door at the middle of the night.
When i came out of the theater, i felt like i was going into a depression. I was REALLY upset. Had i been mentally ill i probably would have comitted suicide. But it's a beautiful film and people really should go watch it.
Agreed... I think that the general American population has little patience and too short of an attention span to sit through a movie like Antichrist. However, I trusted the director and gave him a chance at least and learned to love this film.
@stopcallingmebrother i just saw this movie a couple days ago. the actor perform their part well and did their job. wish it would be another actors than him and her.
i'd say because it doesn't allow you a single moment of pleasure as a spectator. it seems his movie is the anti-christ of movies, just like this french film director godard's anti-films. in fact it is a great achievement for a film maker to allow himself to suppress every possible technique of making a scene function, to go against every possible economy of "good cinema" and eventually to turn that into a principle of creation. very sado-masochistic when it comes to spectator, director, and film
@WatchMyAwesomeVideos I totally agree. I mean it did stat with hot sex which did end with a tragedy then again a lot of sex which ended with depressive state of mind then a kind of strange horror which was taking its time to reveal itself. Maybe I am too stupid to understand ART but thanks god I am not the only one who did not like it.
I wish actors would more often make professional decisions based on some kinda ethic rather than just doing what ever the director wants. somethings are real weather in front of a camera or in the room next door.
@cesario2p I'm not saying don't try, but you just made it seem like you can't enjoy it if you don't know the inner workings of what he's trying to say, when sometimes the artist doesn't know himself. It's just an expression sometimes and some things are just meant to be enjoyed.
@Birmencat well, if you watch the credits (I know, most people don't) both Charlotte and Willem have body doubles. That doesn't NECESSARILY mean its stunt penis, but yeah, I'm going to say that means its a stunt penis.
@Syntox He's certainly a misanthrope but generally the heroines in his flicks are victims in a hostile world;not predators. Indeed,Lars is the most femminist-mysoginist filmmaker in history.lol
@Mirani2 wow. haven't heard of that. i'm a check it out. reminds me a lot of dogville. not just that stagesetting but aswell some of the shots you can see in the trailer. and i liked dogville.
@L7blackwhite perfectly said. This film was real, pure cinema. After seeing it I actually find myself feeling offended by the standard hollywood film, by what I'm expected digest. It was like an awakening. The only other film I have seen since that was on the same caliber is Black Swan, which I just saw tonight haha
Your are right/ Nowhere did you mention you were offended by nudity, gore, or vulgarity. But I never said that you were offended by it actually.The plot does make sense. But you were obviously, so intrigued by the content that you would go so far as to call the whole movie " Nasty". The movie was not supposed to be entertaining, It's supposed to be intellectually challenging. It's controversies only go along with the over all theme.Most artists are puzzled by their work, it's what we see.
Lars Von Trier is one of the greatest directors ever. This movie can be seen through many different angles, you see religious interpretations, materialistic ones, psychological... And you can't close the case, ever. I don't know about you guys, but I find the movie disturbingly sexy as well. It portrays the women in such a way, even though dark, it is deeply passionate and sensitive, unpredictable. As unpredictable as nature. The woman in this movie is like a living riddle. Freud would love it.
@siaty1 I really don't think you understood what @pancholdn said. Tha twas a quote. From the actor in this film. Saying that he DID NOT lie. That's all.
It's so odd and kind of funny how he seems like such a nice, kind guy, but he's played so many evil people, it's almost absurd how normal he is in real life.
Maybe he it’s an outlet for him. Being bad on camera and just letting it go
this was a brilliantly made movie. it was psychologically terrifying and it really digs at you. I finished this movie feeling a huge sense of dread.
Really? I finished the movie and feeling unbelievably bored and disappointed after reading how hard it is to watch... Well it was because I almost fell asleep a few times.
It's probably the darkest most profoundly nihilistic movie i have ever watched.
@@Parasmunt Wouldn't call it nihilistic. It is very much the opposite.
Where did u watch it
DezzyTee agreed! I was so bored and felt it was kind of corny if anything
I saw this movie six years ago and I STILL have no idea what it's about. I love it aesthetically, but I wish I could fully comprehend what he was trying to convey.
There were themes of grief, recovery from grief from the bizarre living in the unreal impossible idyllic past in the initial stage (when you only think of golden memories of the departed) through a tunnel of numbness and pain, the mutilation because when you lose someone close to you a part of you dies. The theme of nature with it's constant struggle, cruelty, death and birth cycles in meaningless indifference v the way humans romanticise the importance of their existence.
Chaos reigns means there is no meaning, there is no safe place, there is no stopping and staring - everything moves on remorselessly and the horror perhaps is to retain deep capacity for feeling amidst that.
Great analysis, makes a lot of sense. Where does the final shot fit into this?
It doesn't fit very well :)
You could find interpretations of it that fit but i won't try.
There is a Garden of Eden association with this movie, Adam and Eve cast out of 'paradise' (hell in this 'antichrist' version) and if i recall that was blamed on the woman.
They are not cast out of Antichrist's Garden of Eden, they are cast into it from 'heaven' (their perfect memories of their son alive, the golden before) and it is not a place of eternal life, harmony but the opposite a place of ravaging decay, entropy, remorseless change and death. People look at him attacking her and say it is misogynist but they forget that this Garden of Eden is not a nice place, everything is reversed - you would want to be cast out of (qualify from) this place (this grieving depression process) - in that sense i remember seeing Defoe's act as possibly heroic...
It is the actual 'perfect' opening scene which is unnatural and excruciating and antilife, we cannot live in the detritus of a broken heart, he would be a monster if he had tried to pin her there - instead he takes her to the forest where her pain is mirrored around her and eventually martyrs her out of it.
RomTankin I tend to think it’s about how unforgiving nature is.
I so love this movie, not for it's graphic content but because it's intellectually and emotionally challenging.
“He’s a very strange guy but he’s very dear to me” me talking about Willem Dafoe
He's really well-spoken.
Just watched this movie last night. It was very unsettling and very disturbing imagery throughout the film, I can't get out of my mind. It had a huge effect on me. Might watch again now that I know what to expect, but this movie definitely isn't for the faint of heart.
I watched that movie last night & I couldn't sleep.
The film is nothing less than fantastic. A pure art piece.
Actually, it couldn't be further from the truth. This film was the reason he got out of his depression.
Brilliant movie .....still running in my mind after 4 days ...
He got a depression when he started on the movie but he have had several depressions before that. He has struggled with social anxiety disorder and anxiety attacks since he was about 5 years old; so it is very unlikely that this depression was caused because of the movie he was working on.
When I say this movie, I was a little bit disturbed by the brutality of it all but I still found it to be one of the best movies I have ever seen. It was well shot, scripted, and acted that it seemed like all of this was real. Needless to say this movie was a little hard to watch at points, but still amazing. Nothing in the mainstream media on the big screen can even compare.
I think if one was really going to appreciate Antichrist then they would have to be more open-minded and less offended by things they don't understand. People criticize because they find things offensive to them. If we just expanded our minds and lengthened our perception of material that is different or unusual then we can reach towards understanding such things. Repeating close-minded people are clearly insulted by something they fail to understand correctly because they can't open their mind
I came here after watching The Lighthouse
The first time I saw this movie it literally made me physically sick.
how was the second viewing?
Willem Dafoe is just so amazing. In real life and in his roles.
I can imagine how annoying it can be just to get answered questions about graphic content in the film you were in. I bet all he gets asked in interviews is the extreme scenes, while he probably wants to just talk about the film's themes and such.
I love when you can tell someone has no idea what they're talking about - the reporter has this completely vacant stare as Willem - a master of his craft - tries to explain the unexplainable - "how do you act so well?" That's like asking Stephen King "how do you write?"
I love Willem Dafoe
Hey look, everyone! One of the *greatest* actors of all time!
the sound on this film is fantastic, the look and atmosphere of it is beautiful, disturbing/challenging film to watch, but well worth it.
He seems to be a kind and warm person.
He is. My mother met him in person.
satan comes as an angel of light!
it doesn't surprise me Dafoe likes creating controversy in the roles he takes.
@Dr. Buster Cheeks, Vaccinologist Stanford oof don’t remind me, almost as disturbing as this one 😖
The beginning is absolutely the most stunning intro i have ever seen in a film. Gorgeous beyond measure. If you cant stomach through the whole thing at least watch the first ten minutes!! :D
Willem Dafoe is amazing.
...
Chaos Reigns.
🦊🦊
Brilliant film. Indescribable, really. And what perfect actors.
Loved that interview, very human
@L7blackwhite I couldn't agree more. The real horror, for me, is forcing you to confront things that a lot of us are trained to ignore for the sake of sanity.
Stunning performance by both Dafoe and Gainsbourg. Antichrist is demanding but it's really interesting and profound on many levels. A great piece of cinema work which asks to be watched a few times to catch and decipher the countless details Von Trier carefully spread throughout the whole movie.
to the movie. i expected to see an ordinary horror movie. i totally underrated this film. its a powerful, scarring, catching and breathtaking film. william dafoe is amazing in those roles. he clearly is in his element. if someone would ask me who are the top 2 actors for movies like ANTICHRIST i would say Anthony Hopkins and William Dafoe.
to dafoe. he is a totally underrated actor. i haven`t seen a film with him where he doesn`t do an amazing job. he is one of the best actors alive.
This is the movie where he sold his soul people and once you do that you have know say what happens after that.
Antichrist is simply amazing, I've never seen another movie remotely like it!
Even WD was lost for words in describing this movie and the mind behind it. Lol
amazing actor and amazing film ..
My opinion at the end. A tribute to Tarkovsky. But he did not create such scenes to touch your emotions. Some director just trying to create attention, that's the marketing. So it will create a buzz.
Besides some people missed when Dafoe said "if you're open to the ride great things can happen." That's the same for both the people who acted in the film and the people who watch the film
I love love love Willem Dafoe
that's the fun about von Trier's trailers; they all make his films look very harmless.
This is actually the first time I've seen an expression on actor's face acknowledging everything said being a load of incoherent babbling.
The interviewer is really attractive .__.
@04Redeemed
The Last Temptation of Christ was a masterpiece, true beauty.
ive just watched the movie......SOME MOVIES LEAVE AN IMPRESSION ON THE SOUL...ANTICHRIST HAS LEFT A DEEP SCAR!..
WOW!!! FANTASTIC INTERVIEW. DAFOE WAS SINCERE AND THE GIRL WAS GOOD TOO. GREAT...
There's simulated sex and real sex. Almost all movie sex you see is simulated, but occasionally you get the real thing. It's something that really only happens if those involved feel the material demands it.
Film was unique indeed never seen anything like it. Director had to have been a fan of book Dantes inferno to create film like this
@1987Bateman
its just a movie. the actors did their job well and its entertainment --like it or hate it.
Looks SICK. Going to see it.
He's gonna be in Lars' next film: Nymphomaniac!
It's actually in a forest op against a tree, and the people are symbolic. You'll understand once you watch it ^_^
Yes I know it's acting, I've made a few short films myself. But I'm sure there are some actors that you probably wouldn't want to see by your door at the middle of the night.
When i came out of the theater, i felt like i was going into a depression. I was REALLY upset. Had i been mentally ill i probably would have comitted suicide. But it's a beautiful film and people really should go watch it.
@ThePro2004 Lascia ch'io pianga by Handel. It plays in the prologue and epilogue of the film.
Agreed... I think that the general American population has little patience and too short of an attention span to sit through a movie like Antichrist. However, I trusted the director and gave him a chance at least and learned to love this film.
elaborate. wikipedia only tells me he was "depressed"
It's caused a lot of 'controvershy' apparently
@stopcallingmebrother
i just saw this movie a couple days ago. the actor perform their part well and did their job. wish it would be another actors than him and her.
i'd say because it doesn't allow you a single moment of pleasure as a spectator. it seems his movie is the anti-christ of movies, just like this french film director godard's anti-films. in fact it is a great achievement for a film maker to allow himself to suppress every possible technique of making a scene function, to go against every possible economy of "good cinema" and eventually to turn that into a principle of creation. very sado-masochistic when it comes to spectator, director, and film
@WatchMyAwesomeVideos I totally agree. I mean it did stat with hot sex which did end with a tragedy then again a lot of sex which ended with depressive state of mind then a kind of strange horror which was taking its time to reveal itself. Maybe I am too stupid to understand ART but thanks god I am not the only one who did not like it.
fuck the artificial eye fucking scared me
"Its quite a dark film"
Me: "Ain't that the truth"
absolutely best trierin movie...
yes, he was so absorbed in his own method that he couldn't see the progress of "her nature"! It nearly undid him...
I wish actors would more often make professional decisions based on some kinda ethic rather than just doing what ever the director wants. somethings are real weather in front of a camera or in the room next door.
Look at all the flame wars down the page. Remember, people, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!
-it's called acting ;o) -you're someone else... "If you're open- great things can happen..."
wow the interviewer really looks like Meryl Streep
@cesario2p I'm not saying don't try, but you just made it seem like you can't enjoy it if you don't know the inner workings of what he's trying to say, when sometimes the artist doesn't know himself. It's just an expression sometimes and some things are just meant to be enjoyed.
@Birmencat well, if you watch the credits (I know, most people don't) both Charlotte and Willem have body doubles. That doesn't NECESSARILY mean its stunt penis, but yeah, I'm going to say that means its a stunt penis.
I can never look at him the same way
@Syntox
He's certainly a misanthrope but generally the heroines in his flicks are victims in a hostile world;not predators.
Indeed,Lars is the most femminist-mysoginist filmmaker in history.lol
Wow Charlotte deserves a place in cinema as well with a face like that
@Matt Peck I agree. I could hardly look at her throughout the film. Her anorexic carcass did not help either. Good actress, though.
@Mirani2 wow. haven't heard of that. i'm a check it out. reminds me a lot of dogville. not just that stagesetting but aswell some of the shots you can see in the trailer. and i liked dogville.
@L7blackwhite perfectly said. This film was real, pure cinema. After seeing it I actually find myself feeling offended by the standard hollywood film, by what I'm expected digest. It was like an awakening. The only other film I have seen since that was on the same caliber is Black Swan, which I just saw tonight haha
I found this as false-advertising. When I first heard about it in theaters I thought "well I love horror movies
Your are right/ Nowhere did you mention you were offended by nudity, gore, or vulgarity. But I never said that you were offended by it actually.The plot does make sense. But you were obviously, so intrigued by the content that you would go so far as to call the whole movie " Nasty". The movie was not supposed to be entertaining, It's supposed to be intellectually challenging. It's controversies only go along with the over all theme.Most artists are puzzled by their work, it's what we see.
Lars Von Trier is one of the greatest directors ever. This movie can be seen through many different angles, you see religious interpretations, materialistic ones, psychological... And you can't close the case, ever. I don't know about you guys, but I find the movie disturbingly sexy as well. It portrays the women in such a way, even though dark, it is deeply passionate and sensitive, unpredictable. As unpredictable as nature. The woman in this movie is like a living riddle. Freud would love it.
thanx. i can't watch regular movies anymore. i normally gravitate toward wierd underground films
Lars is mentally disturbed at best, it’s all his projections
"To Kill Spiderman, you have to kill Peter"
Your AWESOME!
special you
@Syntox
And he bally-well is correct in thinking so!
@siaty1 I really don't think you understood what @pancholdn said. Tha twas a quote. From the actor in this film. Saying that he DID NOT lie. That's all.
No... he reigns.
Awesome actor!
@ohhrichie Best way to put it I've ever heard. So do I.
I also sometimes say, "I have a nasty crush on willem dafoe that won't go away.
2:10 Worst camera change sync failure
all i remember from this sick movie is the dick crashing part, the pain!!!
That's how scary movies are made!
and what is supposed to be so 'graphic' about it? The trailer looks more like atmospheric ...
Novatrek, you can interpretate it when you say that 'women' ~ Christianity. Maybe you'll find it explained on the Internet.
LUV THIS MOVIE SOOOOOO MUCH XD
Defoe was organicue in "life aquatic Zissou", very naturally character . Is he really find some sense in that seek movie by crazy Trier????
@TheWaterfallprincess I felt like that after watching 'martyrs' I wish films could be unwatched. antichrist was good though
this guy should have been the joker . i think he could have played the role better
@JacquesZupp Do you mean Hollywood? This is not a Hollywood movie. Very far from it in fact. It's made with Danish money primarily.
Why did you even came here and bothered to comment? We're not discussing religion here, it's a movie.
WILLEM AT THE MOVIE......WILLIAM IN REALITY......
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Look to Karl Theoder zu Guttenberg of Germany.