Watching you assemble your case reminds me of how I do it. It’s like putting together a puzzle, but with several layers. You have concerns with real estate, yet you have to make it a usable workflow, and you have to have all your sounds. It’s always the challenge.
Hey Robin! In my country (austria) we´re having lockdown #4 at the moment and I´m lying on the sofa with a cold. These two videos came like a gift, I just wanted to let you know that ;) Very interesting and amusing as always! Especially when you´re doing things WITHOUT a plan...! Please don´t ever change that :)
This is cool and really highlights the reasons I’m ready to get into modular, my approach would be to use my minibrute 2 as my main control hub with the euro rack being used for effects and utility, I’m not too sure about generative atm since I want to have the most control of what I’m playing and manipulating with the keys, pitch and mod wheels, wanted to do stuff like that on regular synths but seems like modular is pretty complex and limitless so I figure I go this route since I’m more into creating my ideal sound creation instrument, I could never do that on bass guitar with pedalboard, tried for years but then got into synths and now modular, can’t wait until I can start building my own using a rackbrute 🤟🏾
Hey Robin. - The big question is: Did this work out in the end ? + Can you recommend it for live purpose? - It would save me some big money, but it looks a bit instable and risky - I consider to do this, because I have allready one Rackbrute.
Really enjoyed this. I bought a MiniBrute 2S with a 6U RackBrute and case on special offer, a while back. I've had a lot of fun with the 2S, but the RackBrute has remained almost empty. Every time i thought about doing something more with it, I've been overwhelmed by the choice (and not really had a clear ideas of what to do), and honestly, kind of put of by the price of things. Definitely food for thought here - maybe my new years resolution should be to spend some money (finally a resolution I could probably keep).
I have the same setup and personally I would recommend getting in some utility/plumbing modules, to help expand the 2S’ capabilities without overwhelming with more options and things to learn. I’m taking about VCAs, additional attenuators/verters, maybe a voltage controlled LFO or slope generator etc. These modules will help you to make more interesting patches with the existing oscillators, filter and LFOs and envelopes. The LFOs aren’t voltage controlled which is why I recommend a third party module. These utility modules are usually affordable and if you’re happy to do a bit of soldering, you can save even more. They are usually quite simple builds, because they are more simple concepts/circuit designs. In my rack I added 3 dual VCAs, a triple attenuverter, a Mutable Instruments Links clone, which is a buffered mult and 3-1 mixer combo, a CV switch we can be manually swept through or addressed via CV, two 3-1 passive mixers and a triple passive attenuator module.
I have also been following Mylar melodies in his never ending quest for the perfect system. I guess our hobby mirrors life in that when you reach the end of the rainbow, it has moved. Sometimes you look for small adjustments, and other times you scrap the project and start a new based on experience or arrival of new modules. Where I am now: I got an Erica travel case and a doepfer low cost. The Erica case works as an independent propper synth, and the Doepfer contains the rest of my modules, that is, to many soundsources, and to little modulation. A classic I suppose. My plan is to get another Erica case and also turn that into a functioning independent synth, but that these two Ericas together will work as a larger system that can be used for live sessions. Whit two cases like this I wonder if maybe the positioning of the modules in the cases is almost as important as what modules are there? For example, I use a Mordax data for tuning so it has to be close to all the sound sources in both cases, but also close to a main mix out. The main clock has to be close to sequencer(s) and other modulation sources, but also to the clock in the other case, and so on. On could say that all the modules should be as close to each other as possible, but that is not possible, is it? My positioning: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mordax, Bloom, Chord, Mult, Belgrade, E440, Rings, SBG, Gainsburg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pam's, Clock Divider, Harmonaigh, Sample Drum, Øchd, Airstreamer, Contour1, Mixwitch, Quad Vca, Cosmix ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I have also thought about the possibility for one row case as a main control station, with clock, sequencer(s), Mordax Data, out mixer, but this would probably defy the idea of making cases that work as propper synths in themselves. Thank you anyway, this was great fun and inspirational. I suppose it makes sense to use modulargrid for planning before placing the modules, but that would not make a good video.
I'm finding that placement is more to do with access to the knob i want to move. If it's a module i'm not going to touch then i dont care where it is. Also longer cables mean they dont have to be near each other as such. It's all a juggle though and i'm already rethinking the Black Sequencer because it takes up too much room.
@@MoltenMusicTech I agree with the access to knobs point, but another equally important point for me is to avoid cable salad and knots or junktions that block the knobs, + in a live setting I need to be able to see the order of the connections. Part of the solutions is loong cables that make it possible to lett more of the cables hang on the outside.
Musicians regularly spend 8k on guitars, drum kits, how about taking a couple of hardware synths or that vintage cello....? So, i feel fine about it :D
@@MoltenMusicTech I go to modular on the spot in my hometown..it’s not odd to take equip out that expensive just not practical cuz my mom told me I’m not lady gaga and don’t get paid to make up for the expense
13:09 "It 'll made other people think I know what I'm doing." Good description of any live performance in modular.
Watching you assemble your case reminds me of how I do it. It’s like putting together a puzzle, but with several layers. You have concerns with real estate, yet you have to make it a usable workflow, and you have to have all your sounds. It’s always the challenge.
Hey Robin! In my country (austria) we´re having lockdown #4 at the moment and I´m lying on the sofa with a cold. These two videos came like a gift, I just wanted to let you know that ;) Very interesting and amusing as always! Especially when you´re doing things WITHOUT a plan...! Please don´t ever change that :)
Ha, nice one. Stay warm.
Another WONDERFUL video. I'm just starting out with eurorack and your vids are so helpful.
Both episodes were fun to watch. Cheers
Regarding the output module, the Pittsburgh Outs is stereo and works great.
a lot of fun!been watching since you got the o coast!
This is cool and really highlights the reasons I’m ready to get into modular, my approach would be to use my minibrute 2 as my main control hub with the euro rack being used for effects and utility, I’m not too sure about generative atm since I want to have the most control of what I’m playing and manipulating with the keys, pitch and mod wheels, wanted to do stuff like that on regular synths but seems like modular is pretty complex and limitless so I figure I go this route since I’m more into creating my ideal sound creation instrument, I could never do that on bass guitar with pedalboard, tried for years but then got into synths and now modular, can’t wait until I can start building my own using a rackbrute 🤟🏾
Hey Robin. - The big question is: Did this work out in the end ? + Can you recommend it for live purpose? - It would save me some big money, but it looks a bit instable and risky - I consider to do this, because I have allready one Rackbrute.
Nice... but Modular Grid it first Robin... love how you paint yourself into a corner sometimes :)
I use a few sequencers with Queen of Pentacles for live rig that work well for portable setup.
Really enjoyed this. I bought a MiniBrute 2S with a 6U RackBrute and case on special offer, a while back. I've had a lot of fun with the 2S, but the RackBrute has remained almost empty. Every time i thought about doing something more with it, I've been overwhelmed by the choice (and not really had a clear ideas of what to do), and honestly, kind of put of by the price of things. Definitely food for thought here - maybe my new years resolution should be to spend some money (finally a resolution I could probably keep).
I have the same setup and personally I would recommend getting in some utility/plumbing modules, to help expand the 2S’ capabilities without overwhelming with more options and things to learn. I’m taking about VCAs, additional attenuators/verters, maybe a voltage controlled LFO or slope generator etc. These modules will help you to make more interesting patches with the existing oscillators, filter and LFOs and envelopes. The LFOs aren’t voltage controlled which is why I recommend a third party module.
These utility modules are usually affordable and if you’re happy to do a bit of soldering, you can save even more. They are usually quite simple builds, because they are more simple concepts/circuit designs.
In my rack I added 3 dual VCAs, a triple attenuverter, a Mutable Instruments Links clone, which is a buffered mult and 3-1 mixer combo, a CV switch we can be manually swept through or addressed via CV, two 3-1 passive mixers and a triple passive attenuator module.
Looking good!
Run the drums through the Grit. Could give ya that industrial edge.
I have also been following Mylar melodies in his never ending quest for the perfect system. I guess our hobby mirrors life in that when you reach the end of the rainbow, it has moved. Sometimes you look for small adjustments, and other times you scrap the project and start a new based on experience or arrival of new modules.
Where I am now:
I got an Erica travel case and a doepfer low cost. The Erica case works as an independent propper synth, and the Doepfer contains the rest of my modules, that is, to many soundsources, and to little modulation. A classic I suppose. My plan is to get another Erica case and also turn that into a functioning independent synth, but that these two Ericas together will work as a larger system that can be used for live sessions.
Whit two cases like this I wonder if maybe the positioning of the modules in the cases is almost as important as what modules are there? For example, I use a Mordax data for tuning so it has to be close to all the sound sources in both cases, but also close to a main mix out. The main clock has to be close to sequencer(s) and other modulation sources, but also to the clock in the other case, and so on. On could say that all the modules should be as close to each other as possible, but that is not possible, is it?
My positioning:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mordax, Bloom, Chord, Mult, Belgrade, E440, Rings, SBG, Gainsburg
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pam's, Clock Divider, Harmonaigh, Sample Drum, Øchd, Airstreamer, Contour1, Mixwitch, Quad Vca, Cosmix
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have also thought about the possibility for one row case as a main control station, with clock, sequencer(s), Mordax Data, out mixer, but this would probably defy the idea of making cases that work as propper synths in themselves.
Thank you anyway, this was great fun and inspirational. I suppose it makes sense to use modulargrid for planning before placing the modules, but that would not make a good video.
I'm finding that placement is more to do with access to the knob i want to move. If it's a module i'm not going to touch then i dont care where it is. Also longer cables mean they dont have to be near each other as such. It's all a juggle though and i'm already rethinking the Black Sequencer because it takes up too much room.
@@MoltenMusicTech I agree with the access to knobs point, but another equally important point for me is to avoid cable salad and knots or junktions that block the knobs, + in a live setting I need to be able to see the order of the connections. Part of the solutions is loong cables that make it possible to lett more of the cables hang on the outside.
Love you bro. Premium content
What did he use to plug it into speakers?
The Make Noise Rosie
Making music on it. Hmm, now that's an interesting idea..
Which one is the second oscillator Robin was putting in?
Ona from Nano
@@MoltenMusicTech thänks :)
Thanks - the Ona sounds like it is worth looking into
"Writing actual music" LOL, sometimes i think we get so wrapped up in the technical we forget why we are doing it in the first place.
What is that distortion module?
Found it. Ciobra by Barullofx.
How do you feel about taking 8k worth of modules to a show..it’s seems so scary
Musicians regularly spend 8k on guitars, drum kits, how about taking a couple of hardware synths or that vintage cello....? So, i feel fine about it :D
cool..u should post a live pa that you do!
@@MoltenMusicTech I go to modular on the spot in my hometown..it’s not odd to take equip out that expensive just not practical cuz my mom told me I’m not lady gaga and don’t get paid to make up for the expense
Always screw last so you dont have to deal with them if you want to change layout or smething is not workşng.
Disting does delay
You have 2 rows of 88 (!) HP. Times 2.
I think that’s right, yes, but I have since shifted to a single case, 2 x 104 and a row of 1U
336hp
Beware: starting with two Arturia 2row cases and on your way to a Nasa Space Center wall of modules like Andrew Huang or Colin Benders...🤗😂