Girl, Interrupted (1999) - Borderline Scene (3/10) | Movieclips
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Susanna (Winona Ryder) discusses her condition during a family therapy session.
FILM DESCRIPTION:
In 1967, 19-year-old Susanna (Winona Ryder) feels that "reality is becoming too dense" and is diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. The doctor suggests to her parents that she be committed to the Claymore Hospital, and she spends the next 18 months struggling with her troubled psyche and the bizarre world of the institution. Susanna bonds with several other patients, including Lisa (Angelina Jolie), Polly (Elizabeth Moss), and Georgina (Clea DuVall). As she realizes that Lisa is potentially dangerous and truly needs help, Susanna begins to work harder with her psychiatrist (Vanessa Redgrave) and the nurse on the ward (Whoopi Goldberg). But Susanna soon learns that getting out of the hospital is not as easy as getting in. Girl, Interrupted was based on the autobiography of Susanna Kaysen, who really did spend a year-and-a-half in the McLean Psychiatric Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts.
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TM & © Sony (1999)
Cast: Joanna Kerns, Ray Baker, Winona Ryder, Jeffrey Tambor
Director: James Mangold
Producers: Carol Bodie, Georgia Kacandes, Susanna Kaysen, Cathy Konrad, Winona Ryder, Douglas Wick
Screenwriters: Susanna Kaysen, James Mangold, Lisa Loomer, Anna Hamilton Phelan
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Her parents seem to only care more about what people think instead of their own daughter..
That's what this scene should express, girl.
Yeah thats very sad I mean who cares what others think we should all care for happiness of our loved ones and happiness of us
It's called narcissism. BPD is caused by trauma and genetics. Girls with histrionic, narcissistic, borderline mothers or abusive fathers.
Rhianna M my parents to a T
Sad thing is, this was a much more common approach to parenting back in the 60s and anytime before that, particularly amongst middle-class and higher. It was all about appearances. Everyone had to be 100% happy and perfect all the time, especially if the neighbors were watching or visiting.
Because, for some reason, having imperfections as a family made you an outcast in your community, or at least created the perception that it would, so people feared imperfection like the plague.
Which Winona's character expresses so eloquently. "My parents are having a 'Holiday Cocktail' crisis...." *Huge Side Eye*
On a plus note, it's good to see that most of society has embraced mental health resources these days as opposed to shunning them.
" Is it genetic?"
"Oh, Christ."
I died lmfao
😂😂
Cheerio Dreemmur I was hollering! 🤣
that's how it be lmao parents putting all the illness on you lol
🤣🤣🤣
Cheerio Dreemmur
The shade
“My parents are having a little holiday cocktail Christmas party crisis!” Ahahahaha
A thing neither a man nor a woman of color have ever said in the history of man kind.😂
This movie is great but Susanna seems like the 60's version of a white tumblr girl.
"My parents are too busy financing me and promising my wealthy future I feel so neglected!"
@@MIHELISHARAbout that issue? Yeah youre probably right. My parents spent so much time fighting each other and me and spweeping the fact Im gay under the carpet they didnt have time to neglect.
@@MIHELISHAR What.. nobody? That's pretty sad.
You really should listen before you judge. You dont know who I am and you don't know what I've been through.
I just shared a thought with some black humor.
Ratchet League wishing you the best through your struggles
Love that line
As someone who is diagnosed with bpd...my therapist told me its one of the few disorders you arent actually born with but you develope because of how you are raised (not being validated, critisized constantlly etc). So tbh.......it was prob her parents fault.
definitely im borderline parents always bickered emotionally very unstable financially unstable never there for me yet they enabled me sheltered me all the wrong ways ;/ never instilled discipline
Your therapist actually came out with it and said BPD is caused by how a person is raised????
@@joannaedssay5988 its a pretty big factor. Usually from not being validated.
@@krissys7481 Keep hold of that therapist! They aren't usually so honest. I'm diagnosed with BPD too and have been asking my psychiatrist what causes it etc but she always says its lots of things. I'd love an honest straight answer.
@@joannaedssay5988 does your therapist specialize in BPD?? literally i went to to a phsyciatrist this past january after a suicide attempt and he was able to diagnose me right away by talking about my childhood, relationship with my parents and my behaviors and EVERYTHING suddenly made so much sense. My therapist told me straight up how youre treated growing up is such a huge factor which when i think about it makes a lot of sense
"Is it genetic?"😂 I'm dying
I
OH CHRIST!! 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Same asf 🤣🤣🤣🤣 lmfao
yes, 40-50%
Her parents are so ridiculous, specially her mum, I love this movie is so accurate
Her mother has BPD & her father has NPD. The mother gets weepy, and the father just BARKS. I'm sure behind closed doors it's a lot more raucous. They are both enabling & covering up for eachother's neglect & abuse, but it's DEFINITELY the father pulling all the strings.
NPD ppl may sometimes pretend to be caring & warm on the surface, but underneath they are very cold, calculating & controlling. They must maintain a facade of perfection & superiority, because they are deeply afraid that showing any sign of imperfection will completely destroy them. They had arrested development of their psychology in their youth due to a confusing combination neglect, abuse, and having to meet impossible standards. They really hate themselves and they spend every waking moment of life trying to prove their worth through money, accolades & achievements. NPD ppl are incapable of empathy. They will torture others just for their own personal gain. Just for an image of perfection.
BPD ppl, on the other hand, can be a hot mess, if undiagnosed & untreated. BPD ppl are easy prey to NPD ppl, bc they can be easily controlled through shame & fear. They also have such low sense of self that they feel they can't function or survive without the NPD person. They have an insatiable desire to please the NPD person. The NPD person knows this and exploits it. Since BPD ppl "look ridiculous", They provide the NPD person a perfect deflection away from their sociopathic NPD behavior.
Did you notice the mother was about to tell the truth before the father rudely interrupted, demanding the bottom line? Bringing up money and acting like this is all just a waste of his time was a power flex. It was a warning shot. It was a reminder that he's her bread & butter & she's nothing without him, so she better not even think of elaborating and further calling him out about making her strap the baby to the board for his networking event instead of staying home to care for the baby. She better not even think of admitting that she broke the baby's leg in a drunken fit. She better look perfect. Wait, scratch that- she better look just slightly flawed, but still charming.
His daughter didn't really matter to him, but he couldn't have his wife checking into a mental institution... he needed her to show out for upcoming social events.
So the mother immediately STFU. She knew she had better. She was wrecked, but she kept it in.
Then after finding out she probably had BPD herself, she couldn't be stoic anymore. She broke down. When she said "I can't do this", she didn't mean "I can't be here for my daughter and I can't admit I have a problem"... she meant "I can't pretend to be perfect and still admit I have a problem at the same time."
So he shuffled her out the door. He made the decision for her that she would pull it together & continue to fein perfection, like it or not.
The mother breaking down
actually suited the father's purpose. He didn't want her in a mental ward. But he did need her to look just a bit "ridiculous" in order to keep up his facade of the stable "hero", caring for the crazy lady.
He didn't GAF that he was the one who squashed the possibility of actually getting his wife mental treatment. (Nevermind himself, who needed therapy just as much if not more.) He didn't care that he was torturing his wife & daughter.
He just cared about appearances. He just cared that he looked good & his wife looked like she was probably the one to blame. Oh well, off to have some cocktails & mingle.
@@themaggattack in asian culture this behaviour is normal. You want us to say all this people are crazy? You make it Too easy ,TH-cam psychologist.
@@1989Ezal Everyone is crazy actually. Some are less, some are more, but they are!
She didn't even mention her parents in her book, im not sure why they decided to portray them in such an unflattering way considering these are their real names
@@BalletTapJazz She said she didn't like the movie either. I need to read her book sometime...
I know this isn't supposed to be funny but I laughed when he said it's five time more likely if they have a borderline parent with her mother sitting there acting all crazy.
Lol I'm pretty sure it's meant to be funny. There's some real nice dark humour in this movie.
Well, he was looking right at her.
Haha
@@antithoughtpolice7497LMAO
it IS supposed to be funny. And it's hilarious 🤣
As a quiet Borderline, I feel for this Susanna character. I know what it's like growing up with an incredibly self absorbed Mother and Grandmother. It's like being surrounded by all these people with personality disorders and then told we're the one who needs treatment, not them. LM FAO. The hallmark of a borderline is growing up in an emotionally invalidating environment, having no safe space to really be yourself. Unfortunate existence really, do yourself a favour and get these people out of your life and see that you will get better. This is for all my fellow quiet borderlines.
Wow, this was pretty wise. I may not be a quiet borderline like you mentioned, but this was some pretty great advice😊
Someone help, I really think I have this and I don’t know what to do now
@@yumekojabami4038 Thank you.
@@joshfitzgerald4656 Well, what is it you want help with? Maybe make a list of things so it makes it easier for you to pinpoint which areas in life you might be struggling or where you want to start working on first. Also you can look up DBT which is a form of therapy that has helped a lot of people with BPD. You can decide if you want to talk to a professional to be officially diagnosed though keep in mind it sometimes depends on their experience and perspective. For example you can see more than one therapist and be diagnosed with completely different things and one may even think you are normal. Again it depends on their lens, experience with you on that given day so this is why I am personally skeptical of any therapist who is quick to diagnose. Either way you can always get multiple opinions if you need or feel like. Good luck!
@goddessofaphoenixserpent How so, what about DBT really stands out for you?
lmaooooo this so my mom. she literally made me go to a psychologist when I was little, complaining about me. then I remember the psychologist literally saying to mom "the issue is with you ma'am. how about I talk to you instead of her" then she never sent me to to any psychologist again but continued to complain like this woman in the scene lmaooo
It's a deflection of the parental mental illness.
same... I was sent to a doctor when I was five, meanwhile the domestic violence at home never got addressed, but it was me who had a problem smh
@@cb4017 it's easier to make the victim of abuse the problem . It takes away the real issue
@@Evie78575 Exactly... my mom used that doctor to feel better about herself by projecting the issue on to her five year old kid.... thank you for the virtual validation... big hugs from Brooklyn!
I had a similar story
Her mum moaning about having to drive with her own daughter who had a broken leg is the most disgusting selfish thing I've ever heard
In all fairness she's not actually complaining about it, she's wondering if that incident is what gave Susanna BPD: That maybe there was some emotional damage from having been dropped by her own mother and confined to a body caste and strapped to a board for months on end. The drive to their new home would've been especially grueling because Susanna would've just had to lay there staring at the car roof.
@@mesmer3780 best way of describing it. i don’t think her mother was making it about her, she was desperately trying to think of what could’ve caused her daughter to take ill, despite the fact usually there isn’t one. or a clear one, at least.
The mothers guilt is why she spoke of that incident. It wasn’t about the inconvenience. She thought she’d made a mistake. But they didn’t even have seat belts back then so, ya know. Trial and error
@@mesmer3780 yup, so terrible... we often speak about childhood trauma, yet babyhood trauma dilutes in to a dark subconscious mystery... a lot to be unpacked there
And that is a movie - got plenty of real life tales to tell you about - its a riot...
Parents want perfect children.
And they aren't perfect, so how can the children become perfect?
@@taschak3889 parents sometimes go overboard
They want their ideal version of perfect.
you want the best for your kids, it's just human nature. It's heartbreaking when you find out your child has social / mental problems.
me: **makes a minor mistake**
my mom: YOU'RE SUCH A DISGRACE AND A DECEPTION I WISH I'D ABORTED U
Her eyes are so impossibly beautiful. Winona the queen of Gen X
Accurate.
Women of Gex X are all basically iconic
1:08 XDDDD
@@lg316 women in general are iconic. Sorry I don’t make the rules
This is my favorite look of hers. She’s just stunning in this movie.
As someone who works in mental health . When you speak to the parents you realize why a person is inpatient lol
Truth
Dr Phil?!
ahahahaha
That's what I was thinking!😂
Yess
Right?!
@@mickdavis2385 hahaha
More like bad parents
It's more than just that. At the time it was also society, social expectations and clashing cultural norms. And learned behaviours.
The emotional reaction: "I can't do this!!" is the cause of borderline personality disorder.
Borderline personality disorder begins in infancy when the person an infant depends on for care, connection, and example is unavailable due to her preoccupation with her own unconscious, unintegrated, and unstable feelings and emotions.
chef's kiss
Mom is a narcissist
Just like my mom
I think she might be bpd too because my mum has bpd and she acts like that in therapy whenever my therapist tries to place some blame on her (and she abused me my entire life so she deserves the blame btw)
Dad is probably concerned only with money.
how? i thought she is bpd too
Good for you! You spotted the problem
I have BPD and can totally relate to this scene. Just everything in it is spot on. The parents not caring about the child but more so on labelling her ready to tell the sympathy party upon return. The way everyone is edging around what's wrong with her, my psychologist did this.
They got the borderline girl wrong-but they got the narcissistic mother totally right. Love the psychiatrist being straight up with the mother!
I can't remember if she had a sister in this movie, Gamba13. I remember thinking there was nothing wrong with Wynon Ryder's character.
BPD people differ greatly from each other and on top of that it's commonly misdiagnosed even nowadays, but especially back before no one was getting diagnosed with ADHD or ASC
How could they “get it wrong”, when it is based on the authors own experiences? The book is a memoir not a fiction.
@@paganbornspiritbear8249 Im going to watch the "TV News" for the first time since my mum died. It must be commemorated. :)
it is tact in such movie scenes to present the evidence. The mother is excessively crying, there is no tragedy that warrants it, the husband has to pretend to comfort her, because they both know this situation of great tragedy is fake, but they have to act along, she has borderline disorder.
"Look, it's almost Christmas. What are we supposed to say to the people back home who care about her?"
She's facing something bigger than her and her parents think about Christmas and other people
It’s not an unreasonable question to ask, if asked for the right reasons. My son has always suffered in the end by giving others too much information about himself. People, even friends, can abuse that information. How to say it “right” and what not to say are important.
@@JAe-jc1uk Yeah but this situation is clear: these people are all about appearances.
I have CPTSD and the symptoms of borderline are similar. If I ever get strong enough mentally to help others through this I am going to.
Best of luck 💞
Agreed. I have BPD and before I was officially diagnosed I thought I had CPTSD.
I have cptsd too but girl it's not the personality disorder. Yeah some of the symptom is similar but yet very different. I have did inner work for childhood trauma and still going on till now and helped me so much to go into higher level of frequency
That’s right. Trauma is not biological.
same
"Is it genetic?"
*"OH CHRIST."* 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 lmfao same
when susanna's mom calls "borderline personality" a "borderline business", it told me everything about her lol
Absolutely 😭
She showed her true colours
Parents: We don't like how our daughter thinks, is there any cure?
Psychiatrist: Sure, when parents stop breaking their kids.
Exactly.
Her parents care more about what others think of them than about their daughter being able to be herself...
...And that's how borderline is made!
Nods
Winona was so uniquely beautiful ☺️
*is!
He looks like Dr Phil and talks like him
Dr Phil if he was Jewish. lol
Yeeeeah 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏
He don’t got that Texan twaaang.
Wait that's not Dr Phil??
I have borderline personality and living with it is a living hell we feel emotions heightened a thousand more times and then normal person
Yep🙋
I do not know I am borderline but I relate so much to this statement.
@goddessofaphoenixserpent what does DBT stand for?
You are an empath with an incredibly powerful gift. Once healing is solidified within the empath (complete healing is an absurd concept) the survivor becomes the healer of other survivors who in turn become healers. Avoidants will hopefully mirror their empath and heal, but there are many factors. Either way more balance is restored nonetheless
@@unveiledmystic8907 are bpd people selfish?
when he says "5 times more common in those with a borderline...parent..." 😂😂😂
Sadly accurate. People are terrible to anyone just because of some title. Disorders do not define anyone and are not always accurate either. Worst part is a lot of medical professionals mistreat people looking for help with borderline personality disorder, and then go on and teach others that that’s the correct way to treat someone.
Always been the way with psychiatry. Not all that long ago, "Dr" Walter Freeman was lobotomising people and teaching others it was a positive psycho-surgery/procedure and it wasn't. Before that there was insulin coma therapy, the list sadly goes on.
Yes, that is too bad and examples of what trauma therapist Franz Ruppert* calls they are trauma-ready: Their own unhealed traumas have accumulate and done things to them so that the want to harm others. I told 2 auscultants to not do as he did , but take it as an examples of what NOT to do to them.
* Maybe he doesn't speak that much in English, but I am sure there are others to tell us that.Iene Lyon? At leas Diane Langberg might, she speaks so well.
General practitioners will sometimes have a nurse in the room with them while they're examining you if your med records say Borderline anywhere on them ( thanks to all the ID shows that show BPD women to be nymphos, killers and liars).
It's so frustrating but if you blow up or get mad you are being your diagnosis.
Part of BPD is learning to let go of the unfair , totally unfair, way you got it and the way people even medical professionals treat you with BPD. Just gotta keep moving forward.
@@joannaedssay5988 yes, and long before that there was trephination. Before we knew what mental illness was, we simply thought people were being possessed by evil spirits and required an exorcism. The trend here is that humanity tends to refine its practices over time. Maybe one day soon we’ll look back aghast at how often ritalin is prescribed to childreh for acting like children?
I would hold my daughter's hand, hug her , tell her I will always be there for her. These kind of parents don't deserve children.
Borderline personality disorder is brutal to have. I was diagnosed in 2003 with this condition. It sucks
I feel her pain
I'm sorry you went througth that, can you recover from that?
@@connieee5089 I'm curious too as well
It's one of the more treatable personality disorder. I think there's an 80% remission rate. However, getting the help is hard due to stigma and lack of understanding. One of the therapists I know that specialises in it said that only a minority of clinicians really understood it properly. And loads refuse to treat it
@@CharlieViola100 I concur totally my experience I have BPD and exactly how you said.
Plus invisible condition and way respond to situations doesn't give u good attention but people think it's attention seeking disorder because of lack understanding. I feel can't get better from this can only manage because it's your personality you have learnt negative ways to cope due to a toxic or dysfunction child Life and really need a lot of support to turn this around if you have not got cash to keep paying out which is a lot money privately then it's very difficult. Because of stigma in NHS of this condition....
We present well
Articulate
It just seen as your playing up
Being manipulative..... which I like yeah really working for me🙄eye roll. I would love them swap places for me for a week and see how they get on.
@@CharlieViola100 why do loads refuse to treat it?
How could you not flipping love Winona??!
Ikr she's Lydia from Beetlejuice lol
Winona! ♥
1:47 the parents are more worried about themselves ...
"I can't do this!", says the mom. Everyone shuffles around the mom, the scene ends with her looking out the window as mom hams it up! 🐖🐖🐖
I have borderline personality disorder. My parents are exactly the same. This all adds up.
Yup
Are you violent? I hear some borderlines arent
@@brookebliss8227what an ignorant comment. Majority of people with BPD aren’t violent. I have it, have met many others and am studying my bachelors in psychology because of it. Your comment is honestly disgusting, you really should do research before spouting bs you know nothing about.
A few things come out at me in this scene. The mom says Susanna rolled off the changing table and "broke her leg". If only her leg were broken then why is the mother's next line "they put her in a full body cast." Broken legs dont require full body casts, even in infants. Either the mother is lying, or she broke more than just her leg. Further more if the infant is in a full body cast why would she need to be strapped to a board? She is in a full body cast, she isnt able to move theoretically. There is something else going on here, and that is obvious. The mother likely abused her daughter severely as an infant, or made it up entirely.
The mother is a narcissist
I think what mom said was BS. Even Susanna said that she never told her this before.
I love this movie. It always bothered me how Susana stayed at the hospital for a year when BPD should be treated as outpatient. But, back in the 60s, one could get stuck in hospital for endless times.
ikr, at the mental hospital in my city they try not to keep ppl w bpd there for a long time because they could get attached to the hospital and try and harm themselves to keep going back
Fortunately she wasn't drugged or given ECT though...
Bpd term was coined 1980
I didn't think they knew about borderline in the 60s.
Read the book, she was diagnosed back then.
I have BPD but i dont see any BPD symptoms on sussana except for the "dying" part
rare fvkin breed Er she's terrible at keeping relationships and friendships and constantly sabotages them. She's very compulsive, she lets anything good in her life go bad basically on purpose for self destructive purposes. and not to mention she is quite narcissistic at times. She usually feels she never does anything wrong and nothing is her fault. She's also very promiscuous. Are you sure you have BPD or are you just not educated on your diagnosis?
@@laney2773 er which relationship exactly?
rare fvkin breed Parents, boyfriend, any types of friends. She will constantly switch sides to please whoever she feels closer to or liked better by that day. Have you read the book?
The guy playing Dr Phil is great.
lmfao
Y’all 🤣☠️
😂😂
“Is it genetic?”
WHAT A BURN
Big fan of Winona and loved this when it came out, but now as therapist of 20+ years it's cringey to watch. Both how the parents and therapist treat her sucks. Mental health has come a ways but still has a ways to go. Back then and still now, young ladies who speak up for themselves and call out people's bullshit are labeled not nice things.
I think the reason why Susanna was able to call out Lisa at the end was that Lisa had both the disorders her parents had. Susanna's mother had BPD & her father had NPD. Lisa had both. It's a hellacious combo in a couple- but both in one malignant individual? Holy hell.
I thought lisa was a sociopath!
@@gummybeartakeover3963 I imagine that if you could cross a borderline and with a narcissist...a sociopath is what they'd come out as. 😜
@@christianone6611 so if she was a sociopath, which would've been the diagnosis they'd given her in the 60s, in 2021 someone who is a "sociopath" would be diagnosed with anti-social personality disorder!
My mum had BPD, several addictions, depression and drug induced psychosis. Ended up with me growing up to have BPD, addictions, and several doctors trying to prove I'm psychotic too when I'm not. Nothing works. Done DBT twice. been in MH system since i was 13. I'm 22 and can't leave the house due to anxiety and depression. my bpd pushes every friend or relationship i had away. I feel like I'm turning into my mother and i hate it. been on countless medications. Currently on a new combination, which again is doing nothing. It feels like everyone else are the people who act odd, not me, but because i dont fit in I get labelled and stigmatised. especially being a Man with BPD.
consider finding a trauma informed therapist who can work with you through your past experiences. the only way to truely end the cycle of mental illness is to address the root of the illness: your trauma of living in an unstable home as a child. medication wont fix that, only help you to work through it. also emdr and neurofeedback are more promising treatments than meds long-term.
trauma therapy, EMDR, yoga, meditation, grounding, breathwork and weed/mushrooms used appropriately can help you to heal from BPD
Man... I just want to give you a good hug.
Never talk about your kids, talk to your kids.
The way the psychiatrist plays on her mum's guilt is soooo fuuucked 😥
He doesn't play on her guilt? Where does he do that?
I think that was him saying “hey I think mommy dearest here is a borderline”
Not really. She had it coming.
@@kimsy520 but why does he target her mum specifically? Her dad is completely ignored. At the very least, the blame should be shared
zw0lfb4um The dad is emotionally distant, and the psych can see through the mom’s manipulative crocodile tears.
TO THE RANCH
Katrina Vivianne Joy Manuel Brett comment here
that's me and my parents in family therapy.
that doctor need to drink some mf lotion lmao
I have borderline personality disorder and my parents are definitely narcissistic🙄
I've witnessed BPD, and interested myself. The one thing that seems critical is for a person expertly diagnosed with BPD to embrace that they are properly diagnosed, and to commit to treatment.
BPD thrives on denial.
susanna is borderline from childhood/on-going trauma from her mother and probably father from him placing his needs below for his wife and not speaking up for susanna when she was punished by her mother. it is inward internally-focused behavior that can project selfishness and lack of empathy that give borderline its traits that look like narcissism.
I'll never forget being officially diagnosed. I was in the Psych ward (Surprise, surprise) and my Psychiatrist said "Edward, I'm diagnosing you with Borderline Personality Disorder". I didn't even think of it after that. One of the nurses, Albert, said it to me a few days later because it had been written in my chart. "You've been diagnosed with" EUPD ". I seriously had to ask what that meant.
EUPD?
@@madisonedwards1213 Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder. It's the more common name these days instead of BPD.
@@eddpower5425 interesting I’ll be surprised if they change it in a new dsm but people do constantly think BPD is DID
When the asylum is the saner option...
Omfg the blame and shame shifting here is real. Mom invalidating, bring too worried about image management to let her daughter get treatment, looking for a blame outside of herself. Gross
Mum is a narcissist. Everything has to revolve around her. Dad puts up with it. Child is messed up because of narcissistic Mom
Has BPD mom: cool, a movie about her condition.
Therapist: it's 5x more common when a parent has it
Me: 0_0
The closest thing that I was diagnosed in therapy was BPD but I didn’t stick with the program long enough for them to make it an official mental illness but i have majority of the symptom and sometimes my outburst are irrational. I tried killing myself a few different times between 16-22. I remember my depression being so bad that I wouldn’t leave my bed for years! I was waking up crying every day afraid that I was gonna live another day in this hell, I had no one to talk to bc no one in my household cared about me and only mocked me behind my back like my depression was a joke. I had a hard time keeping a relationship with anyone bc I would always assume the worst and end my relationships thinking they didn’t care bc they didn’t keep a promise or bc I pushed them away with my immature outbursts. My biggest problem was that I hated myself! And that I was actually all alone at one time. Meds did not work so I then realized I had to change the way I thought and yes even though I still have my moments I am a lot more mature in situations now and I enjoy being out of the house now 🙂
You didn't have bpd. You dont just "mature" out of it
Love & Light to you❣️Buying a dog🐩got me out of my very dark,long state..Stepping stone to saving my Life🙏
@The Emperor is Naked oh okay true
Humble Wonder actually people do mature out of it. It’s a disorder created by society and once you mature your symptoms lessen a great degree.
Violet: That is too bad. If you'd want to heal and are prepared to do the work it takes,, you could look into Nutritional Balancing Program /Science of Dr L. Wilson. Good videos on YT by Lewis Rowlands and Luke Pryor, who both did the healing journey.Very hopeful! Psychiatry doesn't know and care, though. I had researched how Schz is metabolosm,- nutrition- and allergy-related, and the psychiatrist: I am nt interested in that! And asIasked the Specialist if he wanted to know what I had done to get 25% better, he said "no". And he himself ate what gives the disease.
“I don't know what's worse: to not know what you are and be happy, or to become what you've always wanted to be, and feel alone.”
Pssst. Borderline is the new hysteria. Abused and traumatized young women who need real healing and time away from those who harm them.
Couldn´t agree more. Nobody knows what it really means.
Diagnosed with bpd, I have to agree with this one
Just realized I was clenching my jaw through this whole scene
Whoa. Me too! Thanks for the reminder to relax!
same
Borderline personality disorder is from how you were raised, it’s their faults she turned out the way they did, they clearly care more about their image then their daughters health.
“Is it genetic” - HAD ME!! Lmfao!!
This mom is my mom as well. LOL!! The girl's reaction is sooo good!!!
I have bpd and my therapist told me that he's pretty sure my dad has it too and that, statistically speaking, you get it from your father.
If you've ever worked with a borderline personality disorder sufferer you'd know what falling into a bottomless pit pit was like, what the lose/ lose proposition was, what "enough about you, now tell me, what do you think of me?' was all about. --- If they offer you that job ---run, or turn yourself to stone, cause there's no winning. Ever. And nothing will ever be enough.
I agree. It's best to just be onesself and stop trying to please us. If we don't like it, give us the boot.
Was misdiagnosed with bpd. It’s now been impossible to remove it from the chart.
The parents turn it into their thing , classic
My sister has bpd. Every 4 months she verbally attacks me and really believes I did something to her. My mom has bpd plus covert narcissism. She is one of the most evil horrible people I've ever met but everyone else thinks she is a sweet saint. It's really tough to live with her
I just wanna sent you hugs! And give an advice: move from home as soon as possible, it helped me a lot!
Minion thank you! I have a disability and have had 8 surgeries in the past two years. If my future surgeries are successful then I would be able to work and move out. Thank you for the kind words and empathy. So sweet!💛🦋😘
@@lauraindira8421 I wish you the best, I know, that you'll be okay!! Go gurl!💗
I know where you come from... I hope you're doing alright now ❤️
my mum has bpd, i do too, but the difference is my mum is very abusive so ik how u feel i hope you are able to get out of that environment as soon as possible and i hope your surgeries go well :0
This was the only movie imo that featured BPD in the non "extreme" way that many movies show it (SWF, Eternal Sunshine, The Cable Guy, and Fatal Attraction comes to mind). While I cannot speak for all people with BPD, I don't think the majority have huge bursts of lash outs at people and many can have happy lives although relationships may get more difficult the deeper they get.
Is no one going to talk about how smooth the therapist's voice is?
This would've been in my teen years & they nailed it. So much like people I had known & their experiences.
Common “especially among young women” mmmmhm.... okay.
Through whole movie I saw that her parents just tried to get rid of her it was sad to watch they only care for others opinions and they status in society when they said:what I'm gonna say people for christmas party I was like:wtf
This was during a whole different time in America. This was back when children were institutionalized for almost anything considered abnormal. Norms didn't start changing until the late 60s and 70s.
@@mattg7952 Yeah I know I just said that her parents worried more for their reputation then for her daughter its sad, of course times changed
my mom was a little bit like this. it would ruin her christmas if i wasn't there ready to be ogled at by her friends during a party.
I burst out laughing at that genetic line.
When I was six years old my stepmother left me in a doorway with a note saying not wanted....
This movie is so beautiful. edit: the book is better, please read it.
The way the psychiatrist say "parent" and his face expression is killing me everytime I see this video😅🤣😂 it's priceless 🤣😆😄😂❤💖🤣
I have borderline personality disorder, I've been hospitalized once only for 3 days, and sent home a separate time after an overdose before without hospitalization. The psychiatrists said hospitalization is terrible for people with this illness, so everytime I think of this movie I always get confused as to why she is in hospital.
m life you should get properly diagnosed, even if you think you have something and that all symptoms or characteristics apply to you, you can’t be sure until you go to a professional. Hope you can talk to your family and get the help you need :)
This was based in a time period where mental health care wasn’t um...great
Update: I'm back in the hospital on an involuntary admission for a suicide attempt. I am guessing it depends on the situation whether or not someone with this illness gets hospitalized. I've been in hospital for over a week.
Kristen Jade I thought mental hospitals do not allow internet access?
@@wimberlythomas they do here. But if you self harm or don't cooperate they'll take your phone.
bad therapist
I think back when the story happened (1960-70ish) this would have been considered a pretty good therapist. At least he actually knew about BPD which was also a pretty new diagnosis back then.
As they all are!
I don’t think he’s a therapist, I think he’s a psychiatrist
I think this movie does an excellent job of portraying what someone with BPD acts like in everyday life. It's a constant struggle of knowing who you are and what your purpose is in life, as well as engaging in destructive behaviors to mask the pain you really feel. A person with borderline personality disorder doesn't know how to process their emotions like other people, especially in romantic relationships. People with BPD can go from happy, sad, angry, or have feelings that they've been abandoned all in the same day. These individuals have no sense of self and almost carry themselves in the world with an empty-like feeling in their gut. It's most common in women, and some of them can be extremely dangerous to be around.
@Jewels Star Jodi Arias for instance 🤷
@Jewels Star all I'm saying is that borderlines can be dangerous. Not all, but some can be. I work in the mental health field and I can honestly say that the ones diagnosed with BPD are more frightening to me than ones with say schizophrenia or even bipolar disorder.
@Jewels Star You are correct... Been reading about BPD too as I am pretty sure that's what I have and not just depression and anxiety. I've read from National Institute for Mental Health's website that not all people with BPD experience all of the symptoms like some are suicidal and others are not. I identify with some of the symptoms but not the suicidal behaviors or 'cutting' yourself...
The mom is borderline.
Is it genetic? Lmaooo 💀
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain".
"We’re all just looking out for something real."
God her parents were insufferable, especially the mom. I'd have issues too if I had grow with them🤯🙃🙄
How do you drop your baby and her break her leg??? She acted like it wasn't a big deal. I hate her parents, poor girl. Some people shouldn't be parents. I just read the book, never saw the movie
imo its heavily implied that the mother is lying
What is Susanna playing with ... a bag of candy?
They look like melty mints, my grandma always had some of these at Christmas
Yeah, a bag of flying saucers it looked like to me.
Yep it is genetic 😁👍
Is that George Sr from arrested development
I think so, yeah
Mum , I can't do this.. child , I'm living this . Doctor ' it's from an abusive childhood .
So, that's the Dr. Phil that was never on the Oprah show.
Borderline personality disorder in women is a heck of a thing. It is an epidemic these days and most that have it have no idea what is wrong with them. Feelings of emptiness, bitterness, unforgiveness, indecisiveness, anger, and unawareness are common. These types seek out other mentally unstable codependents. Codependents love them. It doesn't end well typically.
Wow.. This was my childhood through the looking glass. Same mom except my dad was gone before I was 2. I'm really starting to think it's less a personal fault and maybe more of an issue having a cluster b disordered care giver. It was always the same deal and I didn't get better until I spent time away to build my confidence and work out the anger the depression and over-sensitivity..
winona admitted herself into a mental hospital when she was in her 20’s, this scene must have been hard for her to film.
I was literally only thinking of this movie in the shower and my phone was charging in the other room and then I see this clip in my recommended..wtf
My mom completely ignored me most my life. I was 27 when she first told me I was pretty.
My mother told me I was not really pretty she is such a sweet sweet person nor
I just realized the mom is Joanna Kerns from growing pains! I'm like 99% sure it's her! Lol
Yeah, it's her.
I always thought of the Eame's chair as being classic shrink office furniture. The decor of the room from the drapes to colors used are perfect. (the production designer really did their homework)
What a cutie. Johnny Depp made a huge mistake when he dumped her.