Soma Labs Flux - Highly Expressive New Instrument - Sonic LAB Presentation

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  • Soma Laboratory's unconventional design is a major factor in why their instruments are so unique. We take a look at the latest instrument Flux - which takes a lot of inspiration from the no touch approach of the original Theremin. However with the use of small magnets in each had there are five control axis per hand and up to 16 controllable parameters.
    The instrument is loosely based on the Terra synthesis concept and features 37 digital algorithms which are treated like individual instruments with their own timbral characteristics.
    The right hand controls the pitch, dynamic, octave and tilt (for timbral control) and the left hand controls more of the timbral character with a considerable amount of tonal range possible.
    We talked with Vlad Kreimer who gave us an over view of how Flux works.
    The first batch of production units will be going out later this year and the price they are aiming for is in the region of 1000 Euros + tax
    More information at
    somasynths.com/flux/
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    00: 00:00 start
    00:00:28 Playing example
    00:01:31 Overview
    00:03:20 synth engine
    00:07:30 Pitch and dynamics
    00:12:54 polyphony
    00:18:28 external control
    00:19:45 bass
    00:20:40 UI
    00:24:52 the magnets
    00:25:38 percussive mode
    00:26:40 other sizes?
    00:28:09 price
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  • @ClifBratcher
    @ClifBratcher หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Props to the spider at 13:36

    • @sonicstate
      @sonicstate  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      haha! Excellent

    • @danselmix
      @danselmix หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      just in time for the most eerie part! XD

    • @Farold_Haltermeyer
      @Farold_Haltermeyer หลายเดือนก่อน

      I swear Vlad ate it

  • @hb3393
    @hb3393 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The world is a better place with people like Vlad in it. Such a huge fan of his and Soma's work

    • @TheNimasan
      @TheNimasan หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree to 100%

    • @TheNimasan
      @TheNimasan หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love this man. His instruments play a major role in my life❤

  • @experimentsinanalog
    @experimentsinanalog หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Vlad is a genius. He's done so much to push the envelope of expressive electronic instruments. This looks absolutely amazing to play.

  • @brokengadget7519
    @brokengadget7519 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Im glad that things like this exist and there are people like Vlad who have the know how to bring their artistic vision to life.

  • @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328
    @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Kind of disappointed this isn't housed in a log 😊. Kidding aside, props to Vlad for forging his own uncompromised creative path! I do agree with those concerned about the magnets. Seems solutions would be pretty simple.

    • @HIFI1965
      @HIFI1965 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Log version is an extra 2 bills.

  • @DoctorRevers
    @DoctorRevers หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow man. Clap clap clap.
    That flip gesture brilliant. The whole thing looks amazing.

  • @HAntonRiehl
    @HAntonRiehl หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looking so beautiful, and sounding great! Can't wait to get one of these into my studio to start learning it!

  • @bitegoatie
    @bitegoatie หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love seeing new instruments - any new products, in fact - from Soma. The creativity and depth of thinking here about instruments, performance, and art never fails to inspire me.

  • @matthewtunnicliffe201
    @matthewtunnicliffe201 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Vlad is going to bankrupt me. I'm still saving up for the Terra.

    • @Ben_______x
      @Ben_______x หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Terra is incredible. It fast making all my others look so limited. I get beautiful expressive tones from it. It’s the first synth to make me want to ditch my vintage synths.

    • @matthewtunnicliffe201
      @matthewtunnicliffe201 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ben_______x Cheers Ben. I look forward to getting one in the not too distant future.

  • @ingolf7411
    @ingolf7411 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Owning a Lyra-8 and an Enner ... crazy, weird but wonderful instruments 👍

  • @davejarett908
    @davejarett908 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The musical boundaries this instrument can singlehandedly annihilate is flat out awe inspiring. I cannot wait to get my hands on one of these.

  • @eamfos
    @eamfos หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He is a magician...but he just uses music instruments !
    Instruments build to last forever.
    Thank you Vlad...thank you for giving me those opportunities.
    You managed to change my view on music.
    I own two RoATS and one Lyra - 8 ...and i really want to play with them everyday.

  • @AngryPhotoGuy
    @AngryPhotoGuy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love this guy, and I wish I had the cash to be able to justify purchasing one of his instruments. This and the Pulsar 23 both seem very immediately playable, fun, interesting, and rewarding instruments.

    • @AngryPhotoGuy
      @AngryPhotoGuy หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, that spider dropping down for a visit is pretty funny.

  • @deaftone
    @deaftone หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing instrument! wow

  • @Paintopia_VR
    @Paintopia_VR หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing

  • @MrVoonix
    @MrVoonix หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It looks amazing. But I personally much prefer to be able to touch the surface and be able to control the parameters with touch pressure, with x-, y-and z-axis movement, etc. Why? It gives a perceptible feedback about what you are doing like with any other instrument except the theremin. A theremin is often perceived as one of the hardest instruments to learn, because you don't have a haptic feedback.
    The advantage of the theremin and this is of course that it looks beatiful to play the sound by moving your hands in the air.

    • @bojangprodoktschns5428
      @bojangprodoktschns5428 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But here you actually can have contact with the surface.
      When playing lap steel for instance the hand holding the bar is "split" with the non grabby part anchoring the hand for more controlled vibrato (and muting the strings behind the bar). I guess a similar way of playing would be possible here.
      Part of the fun with these MPE devices is that you can invent your own gestures of expression.

    • @MrVoonix
      @MrVoonix หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As another example how import haptics are: It took Apple a long time to figure out how one should control the user interface of Vision Pro. All the methods they tried were missing some haptics (and they didn’t want to use controllers as these are impractical in many usecases). Many other VR glasses were also using some hand gestures that are hard to learn, give no feedback and aren't recognized that well. That’s why they ended up with selecting elements by looking at them and the user tapping its fingers. By tapping your own finger you have the important haptic feedback. - Even the pinching/zooming of pictures/websites works like that by tapping the fingers on both your hands and moving them apart.
      Many describe the interface so easy to learn that they managed it in like 5 minutes and that it felt as intuitive as using your smartphone.

    • @jamaharon
      @jamaharon หลายเดือนก่อน

      More important is to actually try things before having such a substantial opinion about them, but it's an empty suggestion to whoever prefers to be right.

    • @MrVoonix
      @MrVoonix หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamaharon You are absolutely right. Im talking about my opinion of having haptics vs. playing something in the air (which I tried with theremine).

  • @Farold_Haltermeyer
    @Farold_Haltermeyer หลายเดือนก่อน

    So much fun!

  • @andyjones760
    @andyjones760 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Vlad must get one of these to Gregoire Blanc, who for me is the best theremin player in the world. Pretty handy on the Continuum as well.

  • @troyjlandry
    @troyjlandry หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a gorgeous sound machine

  • @petdoe8938
    @petdoe8938 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stunning

  • @banksideleopards2791
    @banksideleopards2791 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bravo!

  • @AntonMochalin
    @AntonMochalin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think they should also make quantization to a scale tones instead of semitones for the rest of us so too speak - or did I miss him mentioning this feature?

  • @alexzhang1826
    @alexzhang1826 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    im sold.

  • @Waldemar_la_Tendresse
    @Waldemar_la_Tendresse หลายเดือนก่อน

    In terms of inventiveness and design, Vlad Kreimer has once again proven with this instrument that he is in the top league. I don't think anyone would want to play a simple theremin now. I also find his philosophy and statement about the display very interesting. The disadvantage is, of course, that you need a computer for editing, but in principle he's right: an instrument shouldn't need a display.

  • @spridgejuice
    @spridgejuice หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This looks and sounds wonderful. I imagine I'd really be interested in editability though - that said I've made just the one patch for Osmose so I may well overestimate my appetite for complicated patch editing these days

  • @stephenBlacker
    @stephenBlacker หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this thing.

  • @thomasyon4332
    @thomasyon4332 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you ever seen an interview between a genius and a hero?!. A big hope to heard Soma in Classical and Jazz. Also Happy 800th, I ll tell you one day what you Nick mean to me, or us, it was a long way, enjoyable, and an ouverture to the world.

  • @Daphoid
    @Daphoid หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love people that want to try new things; not just at the high high end of boutique pricing; but at a middle ground of "alright it's not entry level, but if you save up for a while you could reasonably get one perhaps" - all the while just loving with that do. This is stuff built by people who love sound and creation. Not the bottom line and quotas and such.
    I'm sure there'll be a lot of stuff added to my text file of wishlist things, some I may never get - but on the list this goes! I just bought a Pulsar 23 on sale recently so Soma is definitely a brand of interest to me.

  • @Michael-xr5yx
    @Michael-xr5yx หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad there will be a breakout box for external control. Amazingly elegant control solution for a whole bunch of continuous parameters at once. Looks awesome. Didn't catch if he said when they expect to have it ready for sale?

  • @aquaticborealis4877
    @aquaticborealis4877 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This would be a godsend to people with arthritis

  • @TRaddcliff
    @TRaddcliff หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice cameo by the spider on the black drop sheet. 😬
    I could not NOT look at it. RIGHT BY HIS HEAD.

  • @mraymond77
    @mraymond77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can’t wait to play the Jurassic park theme on this in the style of the classic recorder rendition.

  • @cresshead
    @cresshead หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TY has one on order of course...

  • @aqueous5099
    @aqueous5099 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    1000 euros is just insanely affordable for such cutting edge technology. Even if it isn’t quite that cheap in the final production run, it’s so generous of Vlad to even aim for that price point. He really is setting the standard way above the mainstream. Vlad has already become a legend. I think he might be the greatest modern synth engineer. And depending on what instruments he produces going forward, he could really surpass all the Greats. I know this is a big claim. But he could create the greatest synth of all time. I’m so excited to see where he goes from here on out. This journey is just so inspiring.

    • @kimbopslayer562
      @kimbopslayer562 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I disagree, it's a piece of wood and some metal pieces/sensors, and a raspberry pi equivalent processor. Cool, but I could buy a real obx clone for less.

    • @aqueous5099
      @aqueous5099 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kimbopslayer562 this instrument clearly isn’t for you. Because all your criticisms are hollow, aesthetic, and pedantically technical. The interface, expression, and most importantly sound is what a musician considers. For pure sound design, of course this isn’t the kitchen sink of unlimited possibilities. But it’s quite ignorant to obsess over a hardware synths computational power. They are not PCs. They’re programs. They don’t need excessive power, they’re efficient, designed to do exactly what is intended and nothing more. If you don’t like the sound or interface, totally fair. But many of us are impressed with this very unique and enthralling style of performance and expression.

    • @kimbopslayer562
      @kimbopslayer562 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aqueous5099 keep drinking your own kool-aid

    • @Ben_______x
      @Ben_______x หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I completely agree. I have pulsar Lyra and terra and they are all great. Terra in particular is one of the best synths I’ve ever bought / played. Vlad and his team are amazing.

    • @MrThecarrott
      @MrThecarrott หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vlad is already in history and we are so lucky

  • @mikegeary8056
    @mikegeary8056 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DOPE

  • @kosmikmusa
    @kosmikmusa หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing work.
    For the price this is really good... and midi and cv out this is....
    I don´t know what to say.
    I know what I need to buy now.

  • @MayzMatthiasYzebaert
    @MayzMatthiasYzebaert หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Beautiful & so innovative & €1000 ?! Even as a non-performer I am tempted.
    This thing will sell! Soma = Amazing.

  • @valdir7426
    @valdir7426 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looks promising. I have a DIY ribbon controller that I like but I fear this would end up tiring to have to hold your hands in the air with precise movements

  • @nagchumpalot
    @nagchumpalot หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very cool.. But to me it just sounds like drunk Elephants.. 😂 I like that Vlad is doing his own thing though great for the experimental and sound track people.

  • @mmattb
    @mmattb 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    $1k seems surprisingly low. Wow at that i may need to add it to my collection.

    • @sonicstate
      @sonicstate  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We wre expecting it to be higher too

  • @danselmix
    @danselmix หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:53, like when you hit the bar on the Ondes Martenot
    in fact this instruments looks like a cross between that and a Theremin

  • @NathanielPrinceCoulter
    @NathanielPrinceCoulter หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need some sort of pushback, that’s why weighted keys are preferred. Dynamic haptic feedback may scratch that itch. I guess it’s all in the settings as the gestures could in theory provide that feedback. I think I would need to try it in a creative context to make any kind of meaningful critique.

  • @jonbirchartist
    @jonbirchartist หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No promises I know, but the kind of price area he's aiming at is quite amazing. Vlad is a bonafide genius and appears not to be a greedy man. This is so impressive.

  • @_robespierre
    @_robespierre หลายเดือนก่อน

    this must be midi2 out, otherwise how to capture the range of expression? incredible

  • @MikkelGrumBovin
    @MikkelGrumBovin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This dude is not ....from around....here.... 💫😉

  • @cresshead
    @cresshead หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Q. spare magnets? .. i can see these getting lost very quickly.

  • @grandmasterjo1
    @grandmasterjo1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    €1000. I’m surprised and so was Nick 🤪.
    I thgt it would be inthe €2.5 K category
    This guy is too much of a genius and a gentleman.
    Playing it would be a challenge though

  • @eliasramirez9599
    @eliasramirez9599 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Johnny Greenwood enters the chat

  • @EricMorello
    @EricMorello หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like that a spider decides to drop down and join the party at 4:10.

  • @jasoneboles
    @jasoneboles หลายเดือนก่อน

    My jaw dropped a bit when he said 1000 Euro.

  • @JDSoundsets
    @JDSoundsets หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I heard their target price my eyes nearly popped out........ in a good way for a change haha ;wow;. Can't wait to get one ugghh :)

  • @danselmix
    @danselmix หลายเดือนก่อน

    great instrument!
    I can see Hans Zimmer buying serial #0001

  • @bojangprodoktschns5428
    @bojangprodoktschns5428 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like it or not, it definitely takes some balls to play this.

    • @d3tuned378
      @d3tuned378 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol why

  • @jumpstar9000
    @jumpstar9000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's a nice piece of art to have in a high end home. More practically it's much better to use 3D cameras and vision processing similar to Kinect. I did some experiments a couple of years ago to prove the concept works. That was using a Luxonis OAK-D module. Sure, it would need quite a bit of work to turn into a solid product, but it is cetainly doable. That way you dont need any magnets and every finger and orientation can take part in controlling CCs. Don't get me wrong. I do like it and it's great to see people working on these kinds of human interface devices.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haken already makes the Continuum with independent CCs per finger, but using Hall effect sensors instead of visual tracking. It's not 100% perfect - for example, if 2 fingers come within about a semitone of each other, they combine into 1, as far as the sensors are concerned. So, a visual tracking system could have some playability advantages over these other types of sensors. FSR arrays are another technology people use for this purpose (for example, in the Embodme Erae Touch). There have also been IR and sonar sensors used for such a purpose. I think the technology for polyphonic optical sensors is just getting there. Resolution, without errors, is important to the player. Good luck to any developers who are considering this route.

    • @jumpstar9000
      @jumpstar9000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @GizzyDillespee Great comment! Right. I've seen examples with Hall sensors and a wearable glove before. I don't know if that is what you are talking about. In any case, thank you for the overview of the things you are aware of. With the vision system, it may be that you need multiple cameras. Although having said that, I don't know if you have seen some of the recent experiments using machine learning models that are able to extract 3D information from regular cameras. They are exceptionally good. I'm sure skeletons would be no problem. Ultimately I think we will need a pretty high framerate. Maybe 100Hz could work. That was another problem with my experiments. It was good enough for CC controls but it wouldn't be good enough for playing a piano for example. I'm fairly convinced that a model that trained specifically for reconstitution of the end effectors (fingertips) could get quite speedy on relatively low end hardware. Well anyway, exciting stuff that the future holds. I am very much looking forward to seeing it all as well.

  • @LordoftheBadgers
    @LordoftheBadgers หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The magnets are black. And small. And I am a clumsy idiot.
    Please can we have a loop or something to go round my fingers? Seriously Vlad!

  • @worblyhead996
    @worblyhead996 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This and the Eagan Matrix and Bob's your uncle

  • @nathanbell6962
    @nathanbell6962 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vlad the impaler!

  • @TwinCitiesOxygen
    @TwinCitiesOxygen 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dunno some tor this sound really shrill and pitchy

  • @positronalpha
    @positronalpha หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will not buy this, because I'm not an instrumentalist and it'd be a complete waste under my inept hands, but I'm very happy that it exists.

  • @mechanicom
    @mechanicom หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The demo sounded painful.

  • @MikhailMedvedev
    @MikhailMedvedev หลายเดือนก่อน

    very arachnophobic video))

  • @GroomLakeAll-stars
    @GroomLakeAll-stars หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have to applaud the innovative interfaces Vlad creates…but I have one major problem with all his products…the SOUND! Thin, brassy, odd sounding…most products have the same kind of whiny vibe. Tried a load of them. They’re not for me.

  • @unspecialist
    @unspecialist หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    there is a big difference when you listen to this video without looking at all the flare and sorry, love his stuff but this one has more cool factor than musicality or even ambient range. pass

  • @jumpingman8160
    @jumpingman8160 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sounds... bad.
    Also those magnets are perfect for a child or pet to accidentaly choke on.

    • @MrVoonix
      @MrVoonix หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Sound is subjective. And a guitar plectrum can also be choke on. And many parts of other instruments.

    • @jumpstar9000
      @jumpstar9000 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@MrVoonix I remember this one time at Bandcamp

    • @paulatreides0777
      @paulatreides0777 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All the better reason never to have children.

  • @CamberGreber
    @CamberGreber หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No haptic feedback = Gimmick!

  • @vexdata2445
    @vexdata2445 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is a russian product! enough to support russian business! shame!

    • @jameshodson3450
      @jameshodson3450 หลายเดือนก่อน

      imbecile, what is your Russiaphobia actually based on? Mainstream media is absolutely full of shit, do yourself a favour and investigate what's really going on it the world, it's never been easier to actually decipher facts from fiction.

    • @asynchronicity
      @asynchronicity หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jameshodson3450Russophobia is a Kremlin created propaganda term, gtfo🤦‍♂️

    • @designhappens8157
      @designhappens8157 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      sonicstate department... lol!

    • @1963pyros
      @1963pyros หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Everything moved to Poland shortly after invasion.

    • @GroomLakeAll-stars
      @GroomLakeAll-stars หลายเดือนก่อน

      Clown

  • @spmsoundkits
    @spmsoundkits 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The world is a better place with people like Vlad in it. Such a huge fan of his and Soma's work