Do people not play around with their equipment? That was one of the first things I figured out prepping for my first stream. I found it easier to do PiP in Wirecast with a second Ultra Studio for what we were doing. I am sure if you had a ton of sources to swap through all the time that way may get clunky, but it works for what we needed.
Hello Doug. GREAT video (as you always do). One question that was not answered: If I want to have my PiP persist on one specific channel but not appear on other channels, how is that done on the Atem Mini? Currently I have changed the PiP Keyer to "Stay on with transitions" but now the "Key 1" button simply alternates between on/off with each transition. My goal is to always have PiP on Channel 3 but OFF for Channels 1, 2 and 4. I would prefer to not use a macro because I am presenting standing up and I'm trying to use the mini controls as much as possible. Any direction will be very much appreciated. Thank you.
Without macros the only way to accomplish this would be to always alternate between source 3 and other sources (3, 1, 3, 4, 3, 2, 3, 1, etc.). If you're willing to invest in a little hardware, you could get a Stream Deck and use the Bitfocus Companion software to build some macros that can be triggered with a single button push.
@@djp_video THANK YOU! I am fairly new to the Atem Mini so I appreciate you confirming my suspicion that what I was trying to do was not possible. I looked at the Stream Deck and it looks like the way to go. When you say "Bitfocus Companion software" I assume you mean that comes with the Stream Deck? Thank you again for the brilliant videos.
My main switcher is the ATEM 2 M/E Production Studio 4K, but I also have the 2 M/E Constellation HD and a couple Mini and SDI models. This technique should work with most ATEM switchers -- and any in theri current product lineup.
Yes, it should. The ATEM Mini (non-Extreme) models don't have the SuperSource feature, but they do have a DVE that you can use with Upstream Key 1. If you see a PiP button on your ATEM you're good to go.
Hey Joey again… In the atem can you switch on a hardware controller and have someone setup something on the software at the same time like a pip or maybe media for playback
Thanks for the video. I'm still having this issue where the PIP doesn't stay. I'm using a BM ATEM Mini Pro. I followed the order of operations and the PIP shows up in the preview. But when I actually switch the angle, the PIP disappears. When switching angles in ATEM Software control, the PIP stays.But when I cut using the buttons on the ATEM Mini Pro hardware, the PIP disappears from both preview and program, despite showing in both windows prior to the cut. Any tips?
hey doug, thanks for your videos i really love them! i know this is a silly off-topic question, but how do i get the program audio bars to show on the multiview? i can't seem to figure it out and i've been at this for a long time now lol
With regard to the hazardous KEY 1 button, if we only use the red ON AIR button above it to manually enable/disable the PIP effect, will that independently control the PIP display, regardless of which video channel is selected or previewed?
Hey Doug. We are using the 1 M/E 4K with PIP. Do you know if you can set the PIP from landscape mode to portrait mode? We need portrait for our signers (deaf signing) to get the height required for some of the signs. Landscape requires us to be too zoom out. Is that possible or will it stretch the video? Or do we need to set the HD camera on its side to get the portrait? Thanks!
Hi Doug, I have a ATEM 1 M/E Production Studio 4K and have some gigs coming up where the background would be a powerpoint and the speaker would be PIP. However, the client is asking for 2 cameras on the speaker (Wide and roaming). Is there a way to keep the powerpoint as the BG the whole time and cut between PIP cameras 1&2? Thanks in advance!
@@djp_video That worked great. I am now realizing that I might have screwed up going with the 1 M/E. We are looking to do a conference involving a power point. The picture in picture part is fine, but it will cover a little of the PPT presentation. Is there a way that I can shrink the PPT feed so that the PIP doesn't cover it? Can I cheat this in anyway? Thanks!
Hi Doug, I’m used to Wirecast and it’s effects of side by side, is that something we can do using this ATEM 4K. Even this PIP, How can I use it both PIP effect and lower thirds. It seems ATEM restricts either DVE or luma/chroma effect.
Most ATEM switchers either have multiple Upstream keyers, or at least have one Upstream and one Downstream keyer. You can use the USK with the DVE for the PiP effect, then use a second USK or a DSK for the lower third. The DVE used by the PiP isn't required for a lower third, so you can do both at the same time.
@@djp_video Thank you! I will experiment. Is there a comprehensive user guide or videos for these switchers. There is no published user guide on the blackmagicdesign website. I feel like we bought this giant ATEM and not using its features at all. I feel like Wirecast was a better setup.
If you have a model of switcher with multiple upstream keys you can, like the ATEM Mini Extreme or Production Studio models. Use the first USK to do the Chroma Key for the green screen, and the second USK with the DVE for the Picture-in-Picture. Without a second Mix/Effects engine or a second switcher, though, you won’t be able to put the green screen source in the PiP window.
Hi Doug, do you know if you can use (upload to switcher mem) a custom background graphic behind the 2 sources of PIP? Looking to have a branded background but still have 2 pips. Thanks!
brian reardon You’d need a switcher with at least 2 DVEs to do that. The 2 M/E switchers from Blackmagic Design have a feature called Supersource that can do up to four windows over a separate background
Hi doing can you do a tutorial on how to do a squeeze effect using a macro, these are normally used to bring adverts in during live broadcasts e.g during soccer matches...thanx.
I have a video on upstream and downstream keys going public tomorrow. The video doesn't explicitly describe how to do this, but the tools to make it happen are all addressed in the video.
DMON-QUAD: th-cam.com/video/vE-2p5OPGXI/w-d-xo.html Here's one from Alex Pettitt on SuperSouce on the ATEM Mini Extreme: th-cam.com/video/08_-V3dKDI8/w-d-xo.html
Different cameras have different output latencies. Your best bet is to use the same model of camera everywhere if you can. Delaying video from one camera to match up with another is difficult and expensive to do.
I wish you were in Jersey. I would've love to be a camera op on one of your productions.
Thanks, another great video. I was still confused by the Key and OnAir buttons on my TVS-HD , Your explanation has help a lot.
Thank you for doing this. It is very helpful for me setting up my system.
Thanks Doug, very informative as always!
Nice Doug, good to know this gear better!
Yes please break down more stuff like this. Currently up in the air on the new BM 4K tabletop. BM does not have enough tutorials😉
Thank you, Sir. I love these!
Good stuff Doug! You just took a lot of mystery out of the USK!
Do people not play around with their equipment? That was one of the first things I figured out prepping for my first stream. I found it easier to do PiP in Wirecast with a second Ultra Studio for what we were doing. I am sure if you had a ton of sources to swap through all the time that way may get clunky, but it works for what we needed.
Hey sir "I'M BETTER THAN EVERY BODY ELSE" ! Why do you follow DJP channel if you don't need it ?
We have viewers of all skill levels here.
Hello Doug. GREAT video (as you always do). One question that was not answered: If I want to have my PiP persist on one specific channel but not appear on other channels, how is that done on the Atem Mini? Currently I have changed the PiP Keyer to "Stay on with transitions" but now the "Key 1" button simply alternates between on/off with each transition. My goal is to always have PiP on Channel 3 but OFF for Channels 1, 2 and 4. I would prefer to not use a macro because I am presenting standing up and I'm trying to use the mini controls as much as possible. Any direction will be very much appreciated. Thank you.
Without macros the only way to accomplish this would be to always alternate between source 3 and other sources (3, 1, 3, 4, 3, 2, 3, 1, etc.).
If you're willing to invest in a little hardware, you could get a Stream Deck and use the Bitfocus Companion software to build some macros that can be triggered with a single button push.
@@djp_video THANK YOU! I am fairly new to the Atem Mini so I appreciate you confirming my suspicion that what I was trying to do was not possible. I looked at the Stream Deck and it looks like the way to go. When you say "Bitfocus Companion software" I assume you mean that comes with the Stream Deck? Thank you again for the brilliant videos.
Bitfocus Companion is a third party, open-source app that works with the Stream Deck.
Hi Doug, what Switcher you use? Can i use any switcher and connect to atem software?
My main switcher is the ATEM 2 M/E Production Studio 4K, but I also have the 2 M/E Constellation HD and a couple Mini and SDI models. This technique should work with most ATEM switchers -- and any in theri current product lineup.
@@djp_video so it works also for atem mini?
Yes, it should. The ATEM Mini (non-Extreme) models don't have the SuperSource feature, but they do have a DVE that you can use with Upstream Key 1. If you see a PiP button on your ATEM you're good to go.
Hey Joey again… In the atem can you switch on a hardware controller and have someone setup something on the software at the same time like a pip or maybe media for playback
Yes, as long as two people aren’t trying to manipulate the same controls at the same time
Thanks for the video. I'm still having this issue where the PIP doesn't stay. I'm using a BM ATEM Mini Pro. I followed the order of operations and the PIP shows up in the preview. But when I actually switch the angle, the PIP disappears.
When switching angles in ATEM Software control, the PIP stays.But when I cut using the buttons on the ATEM Mini Pro hardware, the PIP disappears from both preview and program, despite showing in both windows prior to the cut.
Any tips?
In ATEM Setup, change the "Picture in Picture Keyer" option to "Stay on with transition" rather than "Drop with transition"
hey doug, thanks for your videos i really love them! i know this is a silly off-topic question, but how do i get the program audio bars to show on the multiview? i can't seem to figure it out and i've been at this for a long time now lol
Make sure you've got the latest firmware installed. It was added in a firmware update a while ago, then is configured in Preferences (I believe).
With regard to the hazardous KEY 1 button, if we only use the red ON AIR button above it to manually enable/disable the PIP effect, will that independently control the PIP display, regardless of which video channel is selected or previewed?
Watch this other video on Upstream/Downstream keys: th-cam.com/video/WCcoW47yFh8/w-d-xo.html
Do you think the "Key 1" could be labeled as "Toggle Key 1 for Next Transition"?
That would certainly make more sense.
Hey Doug. We are using the 1 M/E 4K with PIP. Do you know if you can set the PIP from landscape mode to portrait mode? We need portrait for our signers (deaf signing) to get the height required for some of the signs. Landscape requires us to be too zoom out. Is that possible or will it stretch the video? Or do we need to set the HD camera on its side to get the portrait? Thanks!
You can crop in on the PiP to make it look like it's Portrait, but stretching probably isn't a great idea.
Hi Doug, I have a ATEM 1 M/E Production Studio 4K and have some gigs coming up where the background would be a powerpoint and the speaker would be PIP. However, the client is asking for 2 cameras on the speaker (Wide and roaming). Is there a way to keep the powerpoint as the BG the whole time and cut between PIP cameras 1&2? Thanks in advance!
Yes; just change the source for the USK.
@@djp_video That worked great. I am now realizing that I might have screwed up going with the 1 M/E. We are looking to do a conference involving a power point. The picture in picture part is fine, but it will cover a little of the PPT presentation. Is there a way that I can shrink the PPT feed so that the PIP doesn't cover it? Can I cheat this in anyway? Thanks!
Hi Doug, I’m used to Wirecast and it’s effects of side by side, is that something we can do using this ATEM 4K. Even this PIP, How can I use it both PIP effect and lower thirds. It seems ATEM restricts either DVE or luma/chroma effect.
Most ATEM switchers either have multiple Upstream keyers, or at least have one Upstream and one Downstream keyer. You can use the USK with the DVE for the PiP effect, then use a second USK or a DSK for the lower third. The DVE used by the PiP isn't required for a lower third, so you can do both at the same time.
@@djp_video Thank you! I will experiment. Is there a comprehensive user guide or videos for these switchers. There is no published user guide on the blackmagicdesign website. I feel like we bought this giant ATEM and not using its features at all. I feel like Wirecast was a better setup.
@@jarasavelli There is a proper manual on the Blackmagic Design website, under the Support section.
Is it possible to do PIP while using a green screen background, for example 2 people in a 3 cam interview set up, adding PIP while they are keyed
If you have a model of switcher with multiple upstream keys you can, like the ATEM Mini Extreme or Production Studio models. Use the first USK to do the Chroma Key for the green screen, and the second USK with the DVE for the Picture-in-Picture.
Without a second Mix/Effects engine or a second switcher, though, you won’t be able to put the green screen source in the PiP window.
Hi Doug, do you know if you can use (upload to switcher mem) a custom background graphic behind the 2 sources of PIP? Looking to have a branded background but still have 2 pips. Thanks!
brian reardon You’d need a switcher with at least 2 DVEs to do that. The 2 M/E switchers from Blackmagic Design have a feature called Supersource that can do up to four windows over a separate background
@@djp_video Gotcha!! Thanks so much!!
Hi doing can you do a tutorial on how to do a squeeze effect using a macro, these are normally used to bring adverts in during live broadcasts e.g during soccer matches...thanx.
I have a video on upstream and downstream keys going public tomorrow. The video doesn't explicitly describe how to do this, but the tools to make it happen are all addressed in the video.
How can you do split screen on the ATEm 1 M/E Production Studio 4K
It isn't capable of doing a split screen -- it only has a single DVE unit so it can only scale (resize) one video source at a time.
@@djp_video thanks for your reply. Have one more question. are there any outboard get to get to connect to the ATEM to do split screen.
You could use a Decimator DMON-QUAD, or an ATEM Mini Extreme
@@djp_video I have one do you have a tutorial on it
DMON-QUAD: th-cam.com/video/vE-2p5OPGXI/w-d-xo.html
Here's one from Alex Pettitt on SuperSouce on the ATEM Mini Extreme: th-cam.com/video/08_-V3dKDI8/w-d-xo.html
Sir kindly. Use this switcher 2 ME physically not through software
It's exactly the same steps.
Why the picture It’s not in the same time with sound I have this problem it’s late thanks from grease
Different cameras have different output latencies. Your best bet is to use the same model of camera everywhere if you can. Delaying video from one camera to match up with another is difficult and expensive to do.
be carefull, the Blackmagic ATEM Production Studio 4K, which is still sold by Blackmagic, does NOT have a DVE !