Great job comparing these three devices. I work as a teacher, and I recently switched from a Galaxy book (which runs on Windows 10) to the Surface Pro 8, pretty much for the same reasons you mentioned. What I need is a really compact computer that has a touch screen and pen, which is important for stuff I'm doing in in lessons. Otherwise, I also need to be able to handle and synchronise large amounts of files; mainly powerpoints and word documents, and I need to be able to edit and tweak them with the full array of the Office 365 package, and since most other devices which don't run on Windows 11 have a more reduced version of those programmes, getting the Surface Pro 8 really was a no-brainer.
exactly. Not enough attention is being focused on the software/OS. One is a real and full desktop computer OS, the other two are wall gardened mobile phone OS's, albeit Android is fairly flexible and Samsung is improving Dex, but Apple's iPad OS is absolutely the worst when it comes to user freedom, control and choice.
I think you did a great job except you didn't say much about the Samsung eco system and didn't mention that the s7+ and s7 tabs have different displays the s7+ has a super AMOLED display
I’d like to add that the Ipad Pro is the only device here that cannot do true multiple screen, instead it only do mirroring if you connect external monitor to it. The Samsung DeX does surprisingly well to simulate desktop experience. EDIT : with the release of the IpadOS 16, I guess my comment is no longer valid. Credit to Apple
Using the iPad Pro as a second display for your Macbook or other mac devices through sidecar is a great experience and doesn’t just mirror the mac. Works just like a second monitor.
@@TheBrokefoot1 I know, I’m a Macbook Pro user, but it fundamentally differs from the concept of a powerful tablet that able to takeover most of current laptop’s functions. Apple’s sidecar essentially turns an expensive device like an Ipad Pro into a support device to a more expensive device (Macbook/Imac). I’m not a fan of that concept, Apple should’ve do the opposite
Samsung ecosystem is amazing: I have the Tab S7+ with 8gb RAM, Galaxy Watch 4, Buds pro and A51, SmartTags and a Samsung TV. They work together beautifully for synced notifications, alarms, reminders; seamless device switch with the buds, app continuity between phone and tablet, shared clipboard, quickshare, using others devices to make calls with the sim card in another device, etc
I am thinking of getting the s7 plus as I can get it for cheap given the new one is right around the corner. Only caveat is that I can only find the 6gb ram version. Do you think it is worth it, will the 2 extra gb make a real difference? Cheers
I currently use the Galaxy Tab S7 together with a Galaxy S20, Buds Pro and a Watch 4. Their ecosystem is really good and works really well inside the ecosystem.
I’ve had the iPad Pro 9.7 256gb since it launched and I find that despite all these years, nothing has come along that really blows it away… I’m frustrated with Apple and considering a change… these kind of reviews are helpful, the comments are even more insightful, salute 🙌🏼
I quite enjoy my tab S7. The app window configuration is just way more freely adjustable. So splitting multiple apps is a dream. The tab S7 also has face ID unlock along with the fingerprint unlock. Not sure why that wasn't mentioned.
Hell yeah, the video I've been waiting for. Been having so much fun using the Surface Pro 8 for school, note taking, digital art, xbox gamepass that came with it, and overall media consumption.
The surface wins for me because I'll be sure it will have the usual apps I need and I'm sure they will run like expected and they're available for download and installation. There's something about apps in tablets that sometimes the features are limited or they can't run apps that well.
It’s an interesting discussion about tablets. These devices live in a weird middle ground of incredibly useful and yet frustrating to use. In the right situation tablets can be amazing devices but they can quickly become cumbersome, using on screen keyboard, smaller screen make multitasking difficult, can be odd to hold, etc. A tablet running windows can be extremely useful and powerful, except due to the fact that most applications aren’t well optimised for touch interface, you probably going to be using the surface with the keyboard most of the time and if you do that then naturally the question becomes, “Why not just use a laptop?” Windows is getting better and better with its tablet interface, but it still feels, i donno, tacked on like it feels like you are using it in a way that it wasn’t intended for. But then the iPad is maybe too far for many cases into its touch interface that i can hinder itself, like with multitasking, full program support and file management that often you can spend so much time fiddling around just to get things to work on the iPad that the question often becomes “Why didn’t you just get a MacBook Air?”. I haven’t had a chance to use it, but honestly Samsung Dex seems to hit quite a good sweet spot for a tablet device. A desktop that mimics the best parts of windows, but a focus on applications that are optimised for touch. It’s a shame that Apple won’t make their own version of Dex because I think the iPad is the best over all package, its just heavily neutered by its own software.
So once again you're comparing Samsung base model to apples top model. You did the same thing when you compared the s21 + model vs the 13 pro max model instead of the Ultra. Come on man, it's starting to get obvious as to what you're doing
That looks like the Tab S7+ there which is the top of the line ATM for Samsung tablets! I agree with the S21+, even though in the UK that was as close in price to the iPhone 13 Pro Max as the S21U was.
@@andyH_England he clearly said its the base s7. And if you gonna compare the top iPhone Pro max, then compare it to the s21u. He does this all the time
Team Galaxy for me! I don't engage much into the Samsung ecosystem(I have a Samsung phone but am considering switching to a Pixel soon) but the various aspects of the s7 sell me. It's cheaper than the rest and comes with the stylus included, I like that the Samsung case has a spot for the pen so I don't have to worry about loosing it. Most of all is Samsung Dex, this is what I want from 2-in1's. The ability to switch between a desktop interface and a tablet interface. I can put up with it being buggy as long as it has the functionality.
@@inveele Thanks for sharing some of your experience, I'm still debating which phone to get so this helps! I guess it's not surprising that some of the cool Samsung software features are lost when switching to a non-samsung device.
I find Dex easier to navigate and less cumbersome than iPadOS for most computer like activities. There are a lot of good apps on Android for tablet users BUT...in general, for using apps, the iPad is just more optimized and has more optimized tablet apps available. So, for light mobile computing in general I do prefer the iPad or tab s7+ tablet options. One of those devices would be my choice for mobility. But for work related heavy lifting, surface all the way.
Great to the point without redundant rhetoric or cliches. For me, it's exactly what I needed to know comprehensively over a range of popular competitive devices- no more, no less. 👍
Also next year Windows 11 will run the Amazon App Store which has a great collection of popular Android apps. You will then really have a jack of all trade device that runs a real desktop OS and provide mobile apps albeit some Android apps aren't as good as their iOS counterparts
got my surface pro 8 two days ago and i love it. its just a great device even though its very expensive. the performance is great and the handwriting experience is amazing even when its on 60hz using the old pen. If you have the money and need something that isn't *JUST* a tablet, get the surface.
Whew, looks like I'm early again, 8 mins into your video. Good job as usual. Last time I was early for the Smartwatch video. As a non Apple user, ipad is definitely out for me. (Yikes, sorry) But the choice between the two is really tough. I'd say ultimately Surface Pro seems a tad more Future-Proof. + More ports + Expandable Storage + Headphone jack, in case whichever of my bluetooth peripherals are faulty. - Proprietary charging ports sucks - Base models alone, Surface Pro is the highest-priced - Audio Quality isn't stellar, but I will be using Audio peripherals so not too big of an issue.
Ive been on the market for a surface pro 8 or iPad pro and of the countless reviews I've watched, this has been the most informative one. Welldone mate.
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I found its really hard to get the best of both world (tablet & computer), you cant get the best tablet experience like ipad, you cant get the best productivity like surface pro. If you are unsure which side you want, go for tab S7. for me i found i carry it more often than a ipad or laptop, major selling point is s7 runs LCD and i can keep the screen on all the time without worry screen burning, i can use it for home secuity cam monitor non stop, while i can use it for video consumption due to its good aspect ratio and speaker. if i want productivity i just snap the keyboard cover and use DEX for muliti windows tasks. If i want some PC stuff i just remote desktop to my PC, the 16:10 aspect ratio is best for PC remote. Its much lighter and easy to carry on the go. I know its not a laptop you can productivity fast, but how often you need to do a long good typing productivity work in an hour of public transport? I think all of these thing can be right with ipad pro, its just its a more expensive machine, i really wont drive it so casually like tab s7. I dont know hows the build quality of the m1 ipad pro, i got a ipad Pro 10.5 (2017) but i found the screen full of light spot (looks like LCD backlit damage) after 3 years of use, i do have hard case, so i dont know how the hell it got some many damage. so i am not dare to use it on the go to have more damage. Also the kick stand of tab s7 just amazingly good, its much easier and realiable than any ipad stand, i basically just carry my tab s7 with keyboard cover kickstand and no front cover, the front display is just tough enough (of coz with glass screen protector on)
Tab S7 is less expensive by about $400 (depending on what sales are going on). Some will like the smaller footprint. If you need the extra real estate then yes S7 Plus all the way.
I have the Tab S7Plus and love it, have had it since release so just over 12 months. I can do all my work, games, social media, movie and You Tube watching on it no hassles what so ever. Then there is Dex AMAZING, so amazing i have put away my Laptop and have not used it for 12 months. Tab S7 Plus is deff the best of both worlds. I actually enjoy using the Keyboard and love how functional, neat, slim and compact it is and the extra Plus I know my SPen is tucked away safely and securely :-) My only gripe is that the Keyboard is not back lit, that would have made it totally awesome. The Tab S7Plus as expected Works awesomely well with my Note 20 Ultra. Movies are a treat to watch on and i do that allot, infact i watch just about all my movies, You Tube content etc on my Tab S7Plus. It has the amazing Samsung screen that im so used to. Gaming for me is great but in saying that in not into heavy gaming or high impact games. I dont care much for the camera as its totally awkward trying to take photo's with a almost 13 inch Tablet, but it does its job for the small amount of photo's i take with it. That is what my Note 20 Ultra is for. SPen is so so much better that that on the Tab S6 its infact a HUGE improvement and i love using it and its many many functions. As an all round Tab/Laptop you seriously cannot go past the Tab S7 Plus ;-) and its priced quite reasonably in comparison to the other 2. Prices are even better now so deff 100 % worth it. Id love to own the Tab S8 plus but its impossible to upgrade every year so id probably be looking at the Tab S9 Plus if not the Tab S10 Plus. I seriously highly recommend the Tab S7Plus its a great all rounder ;-)
@@samimmondal5284 when i pre ordered my 7plus the gift was the key book cover i was so rapt its a great combo. Im surprised they have not thrown it in as a gift with the S8Plus ??
For the Samsung tab 7, I bought a Bluetooth mouse for $20 and Bluetooth Keyboard for $20 on Amazon, so for me, an additional $40 and I picked of the Tab S7 for $500, so $540 before tax.
in my opinion you did not talk about all the samsung tab S7 features and possibilities. First one the tab s7 can become a second display even for a windows laptop or computer just pressing win +K on the laptop, and you can choose about the performance mode or the quality mode. Plus the S pen have an enormous versatility thanks to the fully personalised gesture. The S7 + has a screen finger print unlock and a super amoled display. Also the Samsung ecosystem with buds, watches, phones are really well built, the fast sharing or the possibility to continue what you where during just switching from the tab to your phone is unique in the tablet field. I think that considering it just like a cheap version is a little reductive
@@AR-rg2en I have pro 7 and do regular office works, taking notes, Adobe professional, ... Its battery is another disaster. I've never had any issue with S7+.
as an ipad pro user, i should say that the ipad pro with the magic keyboard and apple pencil is an amazing device in terms of media consumption, drawing and productivity, and it's basically carried my entire 2 years of high school. Plus i'm into the apple ecosystem, and it's amazing. but i would be happier if apple actually did something good for the software compatibility, because it restricts your 800$ device to the productivity of a 330$ ipad, and the only benefits you get is the hardware. If apple decided to invest more for their currently most underwhelmed os in their ecosystem, then the ipad pro would truly be the best tablet out there.
I have a Surface Pro 3 that I have used to run my office without problems for years! Most reliable computer I have ever had. I have dock stations at the office and home office. If I need to go to a court or a clients house, I tuck it into my briefcase with the keyboard. It runs all of the high end professional legal practice software that isn’t available on a tablet. That said, I watch TH-cam and check news gathering sites on my iPad which I just replaced with a Samsung S7 SE. The iPad is a 2017 model and is experiencing random crashes. I bought the Surface Pro 3 in 3014 and it is still running strong!
Thanks for the review! I just broke my surface and your video was the best I could find. Extremely informative. I kind of want the Surface Pro 8 :).... Although, I just dropped a few K on another desktop a few months ago. Dang it.
Surface Pro 8 recent buyer. Dream machine, period. My setup, I bought the Wavlink thunderbolt hub, which has tons of ports and the key is it outputs to 2x full 4K display at 60Hz. And I have two Dell 49” 5120x1440@60. Perfect with just one USB-C thunderbolt cable to connect to two monitors, external HDD, keyboard, mouse, headset, GigaLAN. So one cable I turned it into a full desktop that can run full resolution on two big monitors and peripherals. Unplug it, I turn it into a tablet for entertainment or drawing. Hook the keyboard cover, I am ready to go. So I am selling my desktop Ryzen 5700G and Dell XPS 13 now because this SP8 can turn into both + tablet. Galaxy tab? iPad? Too bad, won’t work for me. I love M1 Pro but iPadOS allows us to use only 40% potential of it, no point buying. MacBook Pro that uses M1 Pro, great use of such chip, too bad for me it can’t turn into a tablet. So to me, SP8 (mine is i8/16/256, coz I think buying an i7 that constantly thermal throttling is pointless) is my win-win-win situation here.
im sorry... this is just dumb.. why would u compare the s7 to the more expensive ipad and surface? and not the similarly priced s7+ which is way better
I think the Samsung tablet is good overall however when it comes to resell value & software updates the Apple iPad would be a wiser long-term choice until Samsung can offer longer updates
Another superb video review, Mike. You are so professional and smart in your presentation. A real pleasure to watch and to have your really expert but to the point comments on these devices! I have the SP8 and am still deciding whether to keep it. I think I probably will. It is a very premium made device and while I only have the i5 chip it is certainly fast enough for what I will use it for.
Usta surface pro 5 almayı düşünüyorum. Tab s7 yle aynı paraya geliyor. Bununla kalemle ders notu alsam s7 den geri kalır yanı olur mu? Şarjı ne kadar gider acaba
When it comes to 2 in 1 devices, I tend to stick with one or the other. So for instance I have the Galaxy tab s7 plus. Use it to consume media mostly and take notes. I then have a laptop for school for windows programs and then a gaming PC for power. I've always felt like 2 in 1s are something people should only get if that's the only device they can have. If it is I'd suggest the surface series. Ipads for apple ecosystem people and Galaxy for media consumption and flexibility. I use a lot of apks and such on my Galaxy tab s7 plus
the laptop is a waste of money the tab s7+ can do more than any laptop when it comes to school/college work unless you pay $1000+ and it's still a waste of money
@@3mar00ss6the s7 plus, it can't run windows apps. Depending on the major you need to run windows programs. So personally I need programs to run dna sequencing that Android os can't.
Hmm i can defintely afford a laptop and a tablet but its super annoying to carry around... especially for those of us who travel around alot. The idea of being able to combine both sounds amazing to me...
@@3mar00ss6 He literally gave an example in his comment saying you can't do DNA sequencing on android os which he does in school. That aside you should know the difference between what you can get on android vs windows
Even though the Tab S7 has technically the weakest SoC as it was the earliest of the 3, it still runs pretty well. I'm a heavy user and I have hardly had any lags on my tablet. My next tablet would perhaps be the iPad, but if the iPad OS still sucks by then, I'll probably just stick to the Tab S8 coming soon. The Surface Pro 8 is really Mouth watering but I already got a PC and because it runs intel SoC, it has the worst battery lofe of them all.
I use the tab s7 and it works really well for me, I use it tgt with s21fe and galaxy buds live, absolutely amazing. Tab s7's capability of doing stuffs are incredible and i have never regret buying it.
Nice job, you left a lot of info out but time is limited, I wish reviewers would make more use of on screen graphics to show more details as the video is playing.
Also gaming is objectively better on the surface and the tab s7. Not because of hardware but due to the library of games. The surface can run new releases but the gpu is more than enough for 30fps gaming with new releases and can max out older games easily. This unlocks a massive backcatalogue of pc games that neither the apple or gaming tablet can match. The tab s7 also talks silver because the support for emulation. This unlocks all games up to gamecube (and also PS2 with aether emulator) amd even some switch games. Apple has the most powerful chip but only has mobile games, so has the most limited library.
mike, i thought your channel was really good at comparing gadgets/techs, the best actually. just a suggestion, what if you make a video about comparing iot's ecosystem, OS, ui, etc. that must be great.
Considering purchasing a Surface Pro 8 to be my only device for college. Trying to keep down costs but also want something that will work with all systems I would use in school. The biggest reason I am leaning towards a tablet is because it would allow me to take notes digitally with ease. Any thoughts?
Phd student here. If been a traditional laptopper my whole life. Ordered the surface pro 8 literally today. Looking forward to the change. Ill be using this fevice for years to come through all of my research. Do it. Go windows. Theres really no other option for studies.
I like the way you review but your review comes off biased since you used the pro version for two and not the plus for the Samsung tab. You're also very throurough with the iPad ecosystem and how it's great for a second screen which the Samsung Tab has its own ecosystem and can be used as a second screen for any PC. It just seems you didn't use the tablet and threw it in here to complete you're review of the 3 tablets.
As a big fan of the Galaxy Tab S7 Plus, I've already decided that I hate the Tab S8. One of the flaws of the S7 is that the bezels are too small. Even with a case with a substantial lip, I accidentally click things while trying to hold the tablet. The Tab S8 will have even smaller bezels. They will be so small that it has a notch. Which means even more random misclicks from trying to hold it than I already get from the Tab S7 Plus. Yuck. PS -- The Tab S7 Plus is simply glorious for reading PDFs, e-textbooks, and digital comics with small text.
with a case on the s8 it may be workable. s7+ is terrific for media consumption. excellent battery life. s-pen performance is competitive with iPad Pro. OLED display is arguably better than the mini LED on iPad Pro in many areas.
I bought a the Samsung galaxy Tab s7+ for school but as soon as I got it delivered I found out about the Microsoft surface Pro 8, so I don't know which to buy and keep. Is the Microsoft surface Pro 8 a long term computer, lasting at least 6 years?
if you dont have other computer keep the surface. laptop and pc are always top priority when schooling. i bought ipad pro 12.9 2 yrs ago for school. but it couldnt edit Word assigments with tables that is made from pc version of word. word office on mobile regardless if its paid ios or android arent ready yet. i had both so i experienced it. in the end i had to use my old pc to have better compatibility of word file or any office files from teachers. theres no way to edit answer those assignments on ipad and tablets. mobile office app on ios and androids are only great if you are to start a document like typing long paragraphs but like i said if its about complex tables with tons of paragraphs to edit or answer it will all over the place.
@@당신은더미입니다 Believe it or not, I was able to get most of my assignments, including papers done with an iPad for the first half of college. The experience for everybody may vary . However, I do agree that the desktop versions of apps will always be better. For instance, I took a class last year where we were required to use Excel. Due to the mobile version lacking important features, I ended up getting the Surface Pro 7. While iPads and Android tablets have gotten better, they will fall short of the Surface Pro if the major requires the use of desktop applications.
@@markclayburne5805 true it could vary but since then i never tried it again. i got no time for trial and error. good for you it works half of your college time
Samsung S7+ and Surface Pro 8 for me. The Samsung for more content consumption, note taking, light sketching and drawing. Surface Pro 8 for more serious drawing and artwork and more content creation than consumption. Surface is definitely better for getting work done, although I might consider a bigger and more powerful convertible with pen support over the Surface, and use it in conjunction with the Samsung S8?
Is the pen good for animation and can one mirror onto another PC? I can't afford a huion or Wacom tablet right now and considering none of them are 2 in 1s (which is what I need on the go), i am thinking of getting the pro 8
Haven’t four anything better than the iPad Pro for my editing needs. That M1 chip blows through rendering images and video if you can work with the software available the choice is obvious for me. But i do understand peoples need to have control over everything.
I have iPad Pro also. But I miss full photo editing apps. I thought of trading it for Surface Pro. But it’s so hard to let the iPad go cause it’s something so powerful, beautiful & feels fantastic to hold. I may keep it & buy the cheapest computer to run Adobe CC.
Surface Pro is clearly best one because it can run both desktop apps + Android apps. It is a fully PC plus tablet at the same time. Combination of a gaming desktop with Surface Pro gives you all you need as gaming, mobility, ultra portable PC etc.
...depends what you need. Many of us, the vast majority, do not need specific Windows apps so the Tab or iPad will be an easy choice. If I needed Desktop apps then I would buy a MB and an iPad or a Windows laptop and Tab S7. I def would not buy the SP8 as it is not a great tablet. In fact I can get both a base MB Air and iPad Pro M1 11-inch for the same price as a 16GB SP8!
@@andyH_England Why compare the price of 8GB 256GB base MB Air to the 16GB SP8 model though? Wouldn't it be more fair to compare similar configs? Having two deparate devices is an inconvenience most of the time, not an advantage. I mean, would you rather get your camera and phone separate, or just get an iPhone? Makes no sense. But yeah, it is expensive regardless, no denying that.
@@AT-5000_Autodialer windows isn't exactly made for tablets where as ipad os is made for tablets Secondly the touch responsiveness of windows isn't great
The second one mentions productivity the comparison is over. The SP8 followed by the Samsung in DEX mode. The iPad isn't comparable in a professional context.
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A good thing to add is that if you have the extra cash (assuming you can afford those tablets plus their keyboards, you probably do), you can add an external gpu for around 400 euroes on the surface. So you can basically use it as a tablet/laptop outside or at work, and as a full on desktop machine at your home. All you gotta do is connect a single thunderbolt wire, and your surface will be connected to a keyboard, mouse, gpu and a monitor. And you have 2 thunderbolt ports.
Great head to head! Instant subscription, first time seeing your videos and it was really helpful. For me, I've ended up going with the Surface Pro 8. Price is hefty, but in terms of pure utility it just can't be beaten since it runs full Windows 11 and I can use all the same software and tools I currently use on my desktop PC. I don't plan to do any gaming whatsoever on the Surface Pro 8 (I have my desktop PC, a PS5 and a Nintendo Switch, so I'm fully covered in that area), it's purely just for being productive while on the move so I think overall it's the best choice. I just wish it cost a bit less than it does.
I am actually using the tab s7+. And it is a great secondary device, something I can carry to a coffee shop and do some light office work. For someone who is not into editing photos/videos and who's work needs office applictions, the Tab S7+ is more than capable, specially with alternative office apps like WPS, you can get things done while having some fun.
Great review, you really showed the strength and combined power of the device and its OS capabilities. Anyone can make a choice from then onwards. Good review. The surface pro does it for me, I run some Eng programs, read and e learning, its a lot of things in 1. However, I just need a device for e learning in the meantime the tab being cheaper and coming with a pen already does it for now.
I’m about to replace my 10 year old laptop, and right now I would go for the Surface Pro 8. If I don’t go that way, I think I could get a normal laptop with the same specs and also get an iPad (at the low end, not Pro) for about the same amount of money.
Why do I have the weird impression that this video is meant to discredit the Galaxy Tab S7 🤔? Lack of application and power, seriously 😳? Not to mention the fact that the ecosystem you mention for the iPad as a plus is also available for the Tab S7. Using the Tab S7 as an additional screen (side car at Apple) has been feasible since long before it was on the iPad. The Spen does not need to be recharged to operate. And apparently you don't know what Dex is capable of?
To be fair: 1/ Android tablet apps are still well behind in quantity and quality of iPadOS, and the Tab s7 is the SD865 so is well behind in performance, whether that matters or not, it is a fact (Snapdragon 8 (SD898) released in a few days). 2/ The ecosystem is improving in the Samsung lines but its laptops are not that great and the watch is a work in progress. 3/ Correct viz additional display on the Tab S7, and I feel they are both close in implementation. 4/ Not bothered about charging as theApple Pencil charges wirelessly so little difference. 5/ DeX seems to have been abandoned by Samsung. I suspect their research suggests it is a niche feature used by a few diehards. TBH it is basically a windowed UI and many of us buy tablets to get away from that, even W11 has moved more towards mobileOS split-screens. I think it was a good summation but if you are a hardcore Android user they may not matter.
Great, u did an amazing review and summarized all features in fantastic way At the end, it depends on what u really need from device as also I believe that nothing like windows as an operating system I was confusing what to get and for that reason I searched for comparing videos but now I decided to go with surface pro 8 Thanks for support
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I have an iPad and have seen more apps feeling like they are designed for iOS and not padOS with some developers dropping tablet versions, this is growing ever since Apple added screen rotation for iOS app on the iPad. In addition to that I have seen a few apps that force portrait and when using a keyboard that gives a poor experience. So, at this time Windows still has the best hybrid tablet/laptop experience, I agree with the statements about the iPad having the power to do real work but no software for professionals, the weirdness of the front facing camera (which I would love if apple would not put any cameras on the back and add multiple front facing ones and use software to combine them into an image that makes it have you looking in the right direction; could also make for better blurring), and home screen customization should be more like Android/desktop as forcing to a grid is very limiting.
iPad used to have more optimized apps for tablet, but in the short time that I have owned my iPad, I have seen more apps designed for phones or ones that force portrait rotation. With that I don’t feel like the iPad has a truly tablet experience, it is not that much different from Android with the feeling of it being just a large phone. What would change my mind is floating windows, iOS apps forced to open as floating windows, an official calculator app (again this could be a floating window for the basic calculator and full screen for scientific/graphing), the ability for apps to fully use the M1 chip, multi monitor support that isn’t duplicating the screen (could be limited to requiring an external pointing device), multiuser, and side loading apps. Everything that is wrong with the iPad has to do with the software, that could be fixed if Apple ever decides that iPads are not an accessory and is a fully complete device of its own. All the comments I have seen from others have added support to what I stated above. (see those who think turning the iPad into an external monitor for macOS is better than bringing an portable monitor and an iPad).
I’ve had the iPad Pro 9.7 256gb since it launched and I find that despite all these years, nothing has come along that really blows it away… I’m frustrated with Apple and considering a change… these kind of reviews are helpful, the comments are even more insightful, salute 🙌🏼
Appreciate this review. I noticed the mic on the Surface Pro 8 sounded awful and was cutting out. Was that just a fluke or is the quality that poor? I really need a good mic, as I host weekly office hours for English learners (so they need to hear me clearly).
The main differances is the surface can run any windows application, it can also run VM's or other OS's on it, were as the Samsung and the iPad are tablets that only run basically glorified phone aplications.
It depends, with iPad your very limited, there’s not a lot of really great editing apps available on iPad while on surface you have the whole windows program on there so you’d have access to the best editing apps like premiere pro ect. I’d get the surface over iPad personally just because of how limited you are with iPad. Also if you ever need more storage you can upgrade the surface on the surface pro which you can’t do with iPad unless you could iCloud which i don’t really think is worth it but your choice.
I used to be an avid surface person but since switching to Samsung for school the writing experience is just way better Also I have to add. I haven't used the latest surface pro but another big reason I left is because while it can use all eng software it kind of sucks at it. Solidworks chugs anysy chugs photoshop chugs, even coding on matlab chugs
you said the Gpu wasn't the best for gaming so I was good for gaming SO I was expecting you to actually mention the GPU it has but you didn't really mention the specs
Are you team iPad, Galaxy, or Surface?
Galaxy tab S7, mine came with the keyboard cover included in the box at ~700$ in my country.
The Samsung destroys the iPad in price and the Surface in capabilities.
Team ipad :)
Team Surface. Pro 8 is outstanding!
Unfortunately / fortunately , i have all 3 but my iPad is the favorite for everyday use. Surface Pro 8 preferred for work and the S7+ is a toy for me.
Great job comparing these three devices.
I work as a teacher, and I recently switched from a Galaxy book (which runs on Windows 10) to the Surface Pro 8, pretty much for the same reasons you mentioned. What I need is a really compact computer that has a touch screen and pen, which is important for stuff I'm doing in in lessons. Otherwise, I also need to be able to handle and synchronise large amounts of files; mainly powerpoints and word documents, and I need to be able to edit and tweak them with the full array of the Office 365 package, and since most other devices which don't run on Windows 11 have a more reduced version of those programmes, getting the Surface Pro 8 really was a no-brainer.
From what I can tell, the three of these are fantastic. It kind of ends up being an Android vs Windows vs iPadOS battle.
exactly.
Not enough attention is being focused on the software/OS.
One is a real and full desktop computer OS, the other two are wall gardened mobile phone OS's, albeit Android is fairly flexible and Samsung is improving Dex, but Apple's iPad OS is absolutely the worst when it comes to user freedom, control and choice.
@@AdmiralBison what is dex
@@aliciapark6241 DeSKToP EXPeRieNCe
I'm team surface on this one. It's just an actual computer with all the stuff you'd expect from one while still being a great tablet
I think you did a great job except you didn't say much about the Samsung eco system and didn't mention that the s7+ and s7 tabs have different displays the s7+ has a super AMOLED display
@@quickfilmmakingtips2870 stop it
@Alfa Romeo it actually is
@@gasweetness21 right
@@quickfilmmakingtips2870 Apple ecosystem ? yes better, Display ? You dare compete against the creator ? Lmao
yh i was thinking this
I’d like to add that the Ipad Pro is the only device here that cannot do true multiple screen, instead it only do mirroring if you connect external monitor to it. The Samsung DeX does surprisingly well to simulate desktop experience.
EDIT : with the release of the IpadOS 16, I guess my comment is no longer valid. Credit to Apple
It does that amazingly on a Mac and wirelessly
@@jdtp-3037 you mean the sidecar?
@@jdtp-3037 I didn’t test windows but ipad mirroring is not good
Using the iPad Pro as a second display for your Macbook or other mac devices through sidecar is a great experience and doesn’t just mirror the mac. Works just like a second monitor.
@@TheBrokefoot1 I know, I’m a Macbook Pro user, but it fundamentally differs from the concept of a powerful tablet that able to takeover most of current laptop’s functions. Apple’s sidecar essentially turns an expensive device like an Ipad Pro into a support device to a more expensive device (Macbook/Imac). I’m not a fan of that concept, Apple should’ve do the opposite
Samsung ecosystem is amazing: I have the Tab S7+ with 8gb RAM, Galaxy Watch 4, Buds pro and A51, SmartTags and a Samsung TV. They work together beautifully for synced notifications, alarms, reminders; seamless device switch with the buds, app continuity between phone and tablet, shared clipboard, quickshare, using others devices to make calls with the sim card in another device, etc
I love Samsung ecosystem!!!!
Yes
Exactly!!
Ok you are cool😐💫
I am thinking of getting the s7 plus as I can get it for cheap given the new one is right around the corner. Only caveat is that I can only find the 6gb ram version. Do you think it is worth it, will the 2 extra gb make a real difference? Cheers
I currently use the Galaxy Tab S7 together with a Galaxy S20, Buds Pro and a Watch 4. Their ecosystem is really good and works really well inside the ecosystem.
lol
If I had to choose only one of these, it would be the Surface Pro 8. The Surface could be my only device & wouldn't need another laptop or PC.
Same
I’ve had the iPad Pro 9.7 256gb since it launched and I find that despite all these years, nothing has come along that really blows it away… I’m frustrated with Apple and considering a change… these kind of reviews are helpful, the comments are even more insightful, salute 🙌🏼
I quite enjoy my tab S7. The app window configuration is just way more freely adjustable. So splitting multiple apps is a dream. The tab S7 also has face ID unlock along with the fingerprint unlock. Not sure why that wasn't mentioned.
Hell yeah, the video I've been waiting for. Been having so much fun using the Surface Pro 8 for school, note taking, digital art, xbox gamepass that came with it, and overall media consumption.
The surface wins for me because I'll be sure it will have the usual apps I need and I'm sure they will run like expected and they're available for download and installation. There's something about apps in tablets that sometimes the features are limited or they can't run apps that well.
I had one, its quite heavy for tablet use
It’s an interesting discussion about tablets. These devices live in a weird middle ground of incredibly useful and yet frustrating to use. In the right situation tablets can be amazing devices but they can quickly become cumbersome, using on screen keyboard, smaller screen make multitasking difficult, can be odd to hold, etc. A tablet running windows can be extremely useful and powerful, except due to the fact that most applications aren’t well optimised for touch interface, you probably going to be using the surface with the keyboard most of the time and if you do that then naturally the question becomes, “Why not just use a laptop?” Windows is getting better and better with its tablet interface, but it still feels, i donno, tacked on like it feels like you are using it in a way that it wasn’t intended for. But then the iPad is maybe too far for many cases into its touch interface that i can hinder itself, like with multitasking, full program support and file management that often you can spend so much time fiddling around just to get things to work on the iPad that the question often becomes “Why didn’t you just get a MacBook Air?”. I haven’t had a chance to use it, but honestly Samsung Dex seems to hit quite a good sweet spot for a tablet device. A desktop that mimics the best parts of windows, but a focus on applications that are optimised for touch. It’s a shame that Apple won’t make their own version of Dex because I think the iPad is the best over all package, its just heavily neutered by its own software.
@@jockturner1547 what about surface now come with wsa and can run android apps?
So once again you're comparing Samsung base model to apples top model. You did the same thing when you compared the s21 + model vs the 13 pro max model instead of the Ultra. Come on man, it's starting to get obvious as to what you're doing
If that is the iPad Pro 11 inch, than that is a fair comparison since the Tab S7 also has an 11 inch display.
That looks like the Tab S7+ there which is the top of the line ATM for Samsung tablets! I agree with the S21+, even though in the UK that was as close in price to the iPhone 13 Pro Max as the S21U was.
@@andyH_England he clearly said its the base s7. And if you gonna compare the top iPhone Pro max, then compare it to the s21u. He does this all the time
@@smartphonefan5226 he clearly said its the 12.9 model that's the top model
@@yahshaunyahu If that's the case, than that is not a fair comparison.
I like the Tab S7 better. Great price, better file management than the iPad, and open-sourced.
Team Galaxy for me! I don't engage much into the Samsung ecosystem(I have a Samsung phone but am considering switching to a Pixel soon) but the various aspects of the s7 sell me. It's cheaper than the rest and comes with the stylus included, I like that the Samsung case has a spot for the pen so I don't have to worry about loosing it. Most of all is Samsung Dex, this is what I want from 2-in1's. The ability to switch between a desktop interface and a tablet interface. I can put up with it being buggy as long as it has the functionality.
Switched from Samsung s21 phone to pixel 6 pro. Was disappointed to find out i couldn't connect external display to pixel 6 pro.🥺
@@inveele Thanks for sharing some of your experience, I'm still debating which phone to get so this helps! I guess it's not surprising that some of the cool Samsung software features are lost when switching to a non-samsung device.
I find Dex easier to navigate and less cumbersome than iPadOS for most computer like activities. There are a lot of good apps on Android for tablet users BUT...in general, for using apps, the iPad is just more optimized and has more optimized tablet apps available.
So, for light mobile computing in general I do prefer the iPad or tab s7+ tablet options. One of those devices would be my choice for mobility.
But for work related heavy lifting, surface all the way.
Great to the point without redundant rhetoric or cliches. For me, it's exactly what I needed to know comprehensively over a range of popular competitive devices- no more, no less. 👍
Lol my surface pro 8 is in the mail… I’m now broke but excited
Good explanation. The surface is basically a full laptop/tablet. The other two are tablets that kind of do laptop stuff.
Yeah pretty much
Also next year Windows 11 will run the Amazon App Store which has a great collection of popular Android apps. You will then really have a jack of all trade device that runs a real desktop OS and provide mobile apps albeit some Android apps aren't as good as their iOS counterparts
got my surface pro 8 two days ago and i love it. its just a great device even though its very expensive. the performance is great and the handwriting experience is amazing even when its on 60hz using the old pen. If you have the money and need something that isn't *JUST* a tablet, get the surface.
Whew, looks like I'm early again, 8 mins into your video. Good job as usual. Last time I was early for the Smartwatch video.
As a non Apple user, ipad is definitely out for me. (Yikes, sorry) But the choice between the two is really tough. I'd say ultimately Surface Pro seems a tad more Future-Proof.
+ More ports
+ Expandable Storage
+ Headphone jack, in case whichever of my bluetooth peripherals are faulty.
- Proprietary charging ports sucks
- Base models alone, Surface Pro is the highest-priced
- Audio Quality isn't stellar, but I will be using Audio peripherals so not too big of an issue.
Ive been on the market for a surface pro 8 or iPad pro and of the countless reviews I've watched, this has been the most informative one. Welldone mate.
And you take?
I’ve had the iPad Pro 9.7 256gb since it launched and I find that despite all these years, nothing has come along that really blows it away… I’m frustrated with Apple and considering a change… these kind of reviews are helpful, the comments are even more insightful, salute 🙌🏼
What was your final take!?
I think you should've have mentioned that the price mentioned was for the tab s7+ instead of the regular S7
I found its really hard to get the best of both world (tablet & computer), you cant get the best tablet experience like ipad, you cant get the best productivity like surface pro. If you are unsure which side you want, go for tab S7.
for me i found i carry it more often than a ipad or laptop, major selling point is s7 runs LCD and i can keep the screen on all the time without worry screen burning, i can use it for home secuity cam monitor non stop, while i can use it for video consumption due to its good aspect ratio and speaker. if i want productivity i just snap the keyboard cover and use DEX for muliti windows tasks. If i want some PC stuff i just remote desktop to my PC, the 16:10 aspect ratio is best for PC remote. Its much lighter and easy to carry on the go. I know its not a laptop you can productivity fast, but how often you need to do a long good typing productivity work in an hour of public transport?
I think all of these thing can be right with ipad pro, its just its a more expensive machine, i really wont drive it so casually like tab s7.
I dont know hows the build quality of the m1 ipad pro, i got a ipad Pro 10.5 (2017) but i found the screen full of light spot (looks like LCD backlit damage) after 3 years of use, i do have hard case, so i dont know how the hell it got some many damage. so i am not dare to use it on the go to have more damage.
Also the kick stand of tab s7 just amazingly good, its much easier and realiable than any ipad stand, i basically just carry my tab s7 with keyboard cover kickstand and no front cover, the front display is just tough enough (of coz with glass screen protector on)
The real tablet: Ipad pro
The real laptop replacement: surface pro
A bit of both :Samsung S7plus
why not S7+??
(considering that has the same price as the others)
Tab S7 is less expensive by about $400 (depending on what sales are going on). Some will like the smaller footprint. If you need the extra real estate then yes S7 Plus all the way.
I have the Tab S7Plus and love it, have had it since release so just over 12 months. I can do all my work, games, social media, movie and You Tube watching on it no hassles what so ever. Then there is Dex AMAZING, so amazing i have put away my Laptop and have not used it for 12 months. Tab S7 Plus is deff the best of both worlds. I actually enjoy using the Keyboard and love how functional, neat, slim and compact it is and the extra Plus I know my SPen is tucked away safely and securely :-) My only gripe is that the Keyboard is not back lit, that would have made it totally awesome. The Tab S7Plus as expected Works awesomely well with my Note 20 Ultra. Movies are a treat to watch on and i do that allot, infact i watch just about all my movies, You Tube content etc on my Tab S7Plus. It has the amazing Samsung screen that im so used to. Gaming for me is great but in saying that in not into heavy gaming or high impact games. I dont care much for the camera as its totally awkward trying to take photo's with a almost 13 inch Tablet, but it does its job for the small amount of photo's i take with it. That is what my Note 20 Ultra is for. SPen is so so much better that that on the Tab S6 its infact a HUGE improvement and i love using it and its many many functions. As an all round Tab/Laptop you seriously cannot go past the Tab S7 Plus ;-) and its priced quite reasonably in comparison to the other 2. Prices are even better now so deff 100 % worth it. Id love to own the Tab S8 plus but its impossible to upgrade every year so id probably be looking at the Tab S9 Plus if not the Tab S10 Plus. I seriously highly recommend the Tab S7Plus its a great all rounder ;-)
I ordered it yesterday & I'm super excited for that ...but currently i can't buy the keyboard cover ...it would be good if they included it .
@@samimmondal5284 when i pre ordered my 7plus the gift was the key book cover i was so rapt its a great combo. Im surprised they have not thrown it in as a gift with the S8Plus ??
For the Samsung tab 7, I bought a Bluetooth mouse for $20 and Bluetooth Keyboard for $20 on Amazon, so for me, an additional $40 and I picked of the Tab S7 for $500, so $540 before tax.
in my opinion you did not talk about all the samsung tab S7 features and possibilities. First one the tab s7 can become a second display even for a windows laptop or computer just pressing win +K on the laptop, and you can choose about the performance mode or the quality mode. Plus the S pen have an enormous versatility thanks to the fully personalised gesture. The S7 + has a screen finger print unlock and a super amoled display. Also the Samsung ecosystem with buds, watches, phones are really well built, the fast sharing or the possibility to continue what you where during just switching from the tab to your phone is unique in the tablet field. I think that considering it just like a cheap version is a little reductive
I have both S7+ and Surface Pro. I can say I'm way much more happy with S7+ than Surface Pro. It's much smoother and stable.
But you can do more with Surface
@@AR-rg2en not really. It's so slow compared to S7+
@@amprg which version do you have and what you really do with it?
@@AR-rg2en I have pro 7 and do regular office works, taking notes, Adobe professional, ...
Its battery is another disaster. I've never had any issue with S7+.
@@amprg I meant i3 i5 or i7? I agree with the disaster battery part.
as an ipad pro user, i should say that the ipad pro with the magic keyboard and apple pencil is an amazing device in terms of media consumption, drawing and productivity, and it's basically carried my entire 2 years of high school. Plus i'm into the apple ecosystem, and it's amazing.
but i would be happier if apple actually did something good for the software compatibility, because it restricts your 800$ device to the productivity of a 330$ ipad, and the only benefits you get is the hardware. If apple decided to invest more for their currently most underwhelmed os in their ecosystem, then the ipad pro would truly be the best tablet out there.
I have a Surface Pro 3 that I have used to run my office without problems for years! Most reliable computer I have ever had. I have dock stations at the office and home office. If I need to go to a court or a clients house, I tuck it into my briefcase with the keyboard. It runs all of the high end professional legal practice software that isn’t available on a tablet. That said, I watch TH-cam and check news gathering sites on my iPad which I just replaced with a Samsung S7 SE. The iPad is a 2017 model and is experiencing random crashes. I bought the Surface Pro 3 in 3014 and it is still running strong!
Thanks for the review! I just broke my surface and your video was the best I could find. Extremely informative. I kind of want the Surface Pro 8 :).... Although, I just dropped a few K on another desktop a few months ago. Dang it.
Surface Pro 8 recent buyer. Dream machine, period. My setup, I bought the Wavlink thunderbolt hub, which has tons of ports and the key is it outputs to 2x full 4K display at 60Hz. And I have two Dell 49” 5120x1440@60. Perfect with just one USB-C thunderbolt cable to connect to two monitors, external HDD, keyboard, mouse, headset, GigaLAN. So one cable I turned it into a full desktop that can run full resolution on two big monitors and peripherals. Unplug it, I turn it into a tablet for entertainment or drawing. Hook the keyboard cover, I am ready to go. So I am selling my desktop Ryzen 5700G and Dell XPS 13 now because this SP8 can turn into both + tablet. Galaxy tab? iPad? Too bad, won’t work for me. I love M1 Pro but iPadOS allows us to use only 40% potential of it, no point buying. MacBook Pro that uses M1 Pro, great use of such chip, too bad for me it can’t turn into a tablet. So to me, SP8 (mine is i8/16/256, coz I think buying an i7 that constantly thermal throttling is pointless) is my win-win-win situation here.
I was a little skeptical when you started the car analogy but then I realized it was perfect!
above a certain price a laptop just makes so much more sense, so I think whatever device you can get the best deal on is the best lol
Excellent reviews. First time to watch a video from you and you definitely do a great job! A new subscriber.
The thing about the surface is that it uses actual computer software, while the others use phone operating systems
im sorry... this is just dumb.. why would u compare the s7 to the more expensive ipad and surface? and not the similarly priced s7+ which is way better
I'm watching this on my Samsung Tab S3. Still working great.
I think the Samsung tablet is good overall however when it comes to resell value & software updates the Apple iPad would be a wiser long-term choice until Samsung can offer longer updates
Qualcomm is to blame since they limit their processors to only receive three major OS updates.
I like your video but which you recommend for note taking and low price from the 3 tablets?
Another superb video review, Mike. You are so professional and smart in your presentation. A real pleasure to watch and to have your really expert but to the point comments on these devices! I have the SP8 and am still deciding whether to keep it. I think I probably will. It is a very premium made device and while I only have the i5 chip it is certainly fast enough for what I will use it for.
It's pointless to compare the hardware when the deciding factor when purchasing is the software.
great review. definitely made my mind up to go with the surface pro thanks to your vid
The suface is the clear winner here, even as an tablet its just better
Usta surface pro 5 almayı düşünüyorum. Tab s7 yle aynı paraya geliyor. Bununla kalemle ders notu alsam s7 den geri kalır yanı olur mu? Şarjı ne kadar gider acaba
I have a galaxy tab and I love it! I use it as a learning tool for university, this way I can leave my big powerful computer at home!
I love all three. I am a huge Samsung, Apple, and Microsoft fan.
Why use the tab s7 and not plus?
Not really a fair comparison here.
Thanks for the review, good explanation too.
Surface Pro 8 was expensive but well worth it!
When it comes to 2 in 1 devices, I tend to stick with one or the other. So for instance I have the Galaxy tab s7 plus. Use it to consume media mostly and take notes. I then have a laptop for school for windows programs and then a gaming PC for power.
I've always felt like 2 in 1s are something people should only get if that's the only device they can have. If it is I'd suggest the surface series. Ipads for apple ecosystem people and Galaxy for media consumption and flexibility. I use a lot of apks and such on my Galaxy tab s7 plus
the laptop is a waste of money the tab s7+ can do more than any laptop when it comes to school/college work unless you pay $1000+ and it's still a waste of money
@@3mar00ss6the s7 plus, it can't run windows apps. Depending on the major you need to run windows programs. So personally I need programs to run dna sequencing that Android os can't.
@@bonjova6334 windows apps like?
Hmm i can defintely afford a laptop and a tablet but its super annoying to carry around... especially for those of us who travel around alot. The idea of being able to combine both sounds amazing to me...
@@3mar00ss6 He literally gave an example in his comment saying you can't do DNA sequencing on android os which he does in school. That aside you should know the difference between what you can get on android vs windows
Even though the Tab S7 has technically the weakest SoC as it was the earliest of the 3, it still runs pretty well. I'm a heavy user and I have hardly had any lags on my tablet. My next tablet would perhaps be the iPad, but if the iPad OS still sucks by then, I'll probably just stick to the Tab S8 coming soon. The Surface Pro 8 is really Mouth watering but I already got a PC and because it runs intel SoC, it has the worst battery lofe of them all.
I use the tab s7 and it works really well for me, I use it tgt with s21fe and galaxy buds live, absolutely amazing. Tab s7's capability of doing stuffs are incredible and i have never regret buying it.
Hey!!! Is it good for studying? Im thinking of buying it as im a medical student. How long one charge lasts?
@@AmnaKhan-kc1ri Did u buy it? I'm a Medical student too. I don't know which one is best for students.
@@JohnWick-zn7rf unfortunately, i didnot.
Very smart idea and good presentation
Thank you
Nice job, you left a lot of info out but time is limited, I wish reviewers would make more use of on screen graphics to show more details as the video is playing.
Also gaming is objectively better on the surface and the tab s7. Not because of hardware but due to the library of games.
The surface can run new releases but the gpu is more than enough for 30fps gaming with new releases and can max out older games easily. This unlocks a massive backcatalogue of pc games that neither the apple or gaming tablet can match.
The tab s7 also talks silver because the support for emulation. This unlocks all games up to gamecube (and also PS2 with aether emulator) amd even some switch games.
Apple has the most powerful chip but only has mobile games, so has the most limited library.
mike, i thought your channel was really good at comparing gadgets/techs, the best actually. just a suggestion, what if you make a video about comparing iot's ecosystem, OS, ui, etc. that must be great.
Considering purchasing a Surface Pro 8 to be my only device for college. Trying to keep down costs but also want something that will work with all systems I would use in school. The biggest reason I am leaning towards a tablet is because it would allow me to take notes digitally with ease. Any thoughts?
Phd student here. If been a traditional laptopper my whole life. Ordered the surface pro 8 literally today. Looking forward to the change. Ill be using this fevice for years to come through all of my research. Do it. Go windows. Theres really no other option for studies.
I got my gf the surface pro 8 she loves drawing but needed the functionality of a laptop as well. It’s a good little machine and she loves it
Notability or goodnotes alternative on microsoft pro 8 ? Onenote is crab
I like the way you review but your review comes off biased since you used the pro version for two and not the plus for the Samsung tab. You're also very throurough with the iPad ecosystem and how it's great for a second screen which the Samsung Tab has its own ecosystem and can be used as a second screen for any PC. It just seems you didn't use the tablet and threw it in here to complete you're review of the 3 tablets.
Did I miss the differences in screen brightness, screen technology and battery life?
As a big fan of the Galaxy Tab S7 Plus, I've already decided that I hate the Tab S8.
One of the flaws of the S7 is that the bezels are too small. Even with a case with a substantial lip, I accidentally click things while trying to hold the tablet.
The Tab S8 will have even smaller bezels.
They will be so small that it has a notch. Which means even more random misclicks from trying to hold it than I already get from the Tab S7 Plus. Yuck.
PS -- The Tab S7 Plus is simply glorious for reading PDFs, e-textbooks, and digital comics with small text.
with a case on the s8 it may be workable. s7+ is terrific for media consumption. excellent battery life. s-pen performance is competitive with iPad Pro. OLED display is arguably better than the mini LED on iPad Pro in many areas.
Only the ultra model will have the notch, so unless you want a massive 15" tablet the tab s8 or s8+ will have similar bezel size
I bought a the Samsung galaxy Tab s7+ for school but as soon as I got it delivered I found out about the Microsoft surface Pro 8, so I don't know which to buy and keep. Is the Microsoft surface Pro 8 a long term computer, lasting at least 6 years?
My Surface Pro 4 is still working!
It depends on your major. What are you majoring in?
if you dont have other computer keep the surface. laptop and pc are always top priority when schooling. i bought ipad pro 12.9 2 yrs ago for school. but it couldnt edit Word assigments with tables that is made from pc version of word. word office on mobile regardless if its paid ios or android arent ready yet. i had both so i experienced it. in the end i had to use my old pc to have better compatibility of word file or any office files from teachers. theres no way to edit answer those assignments on ipad and tablets. mobile office app on ios and androids are only great if you are to start a document like typing long paragraphs but like i said if its about complex tables with tons of paragraphs to edit or answer it will all over the place.
@@당신은더미입니다 Believe it or not, I was able to get most of my assignments, including papers done with an iPad for the first half of college. The experience for everybody may vary . However, I do agree that the desktop versions of apps will always be better. For instance, I took a class last year where we were required to use Excel. Due to the mobile version lacking important features, I ended up getting the Surface Pro 7. While iPads and Android tablets have gotten better, they will fall short of the Surface Pro if the major requires the use of desktop applications.
@@markclayburne5805 true it could vary but since then i never tried it again. i got no time for trial and error. good for you it works half of your college time
Samsung S7+ and Surface Pro 8 for me. The Samsung for more content consumption, note taking, light sketching and drawing. Surface Pro 8 for more serious drawing and artwork and more content creation than consumption. Surface is definitely better for getting work done, although I might consider a bigger and more powerful convertible with pen support over the Surface, and use it in conjunction with the Samsung S8?
Is the pen good for animation and can one mirror onto another PC? I can't afford a huion or Wacom tablet right now and considering none of them are 2 in 1s (which is what I need on the go), i am thinking of getting the pro 8
Haven’t four anything better than the iPad Pro for my editing needs. That M1 chip blows through rendering images and video if you can work with the software available the choice is obvious for me. But i do understand peoples need to have control over everything.
It isn't too shabby in gaming either.
@@joshbull623 Ye, its amazing tech.
I have iPad Pro also. But I miss full photo editing apps. I thought of trading it for Surface Pro. But it’s so hard to let the iPad go cause it’s something so powerful, beautiful & feels fantastic to hold. I may keep it & buy the cheapest computer to run Adobe CC.
Loved the video but there was a lot of features thatyou missed talking about in the tab s7
Yeah I know. It was so hard to fit everything in the video. Samsung LOADS their devices with features
Surface Pro is clearly best one because it can run both desktop apps + Android apps. It is a fully PC plus tablet at the same time. Combination of a gaming desktop with Surface Pro gives you all you need as gaming, mobility, ultra portable PC etc.
...depends what you need. Many of us, the vast majority, do not need specific Windows apps so the Tab or iPad will be an easy choice. If I needed Desktop apps then I would buy a MB and an iPad or a Windows laptop and Tab S7. I def would not buy the SP8 as it is not a great tablet. In fact I can get both a base MB Air and iPad Pro M1 11-inch for the same price as a 16GB SP8!
@@andyH_England that makes sense if you are not into gaming. I agree with you that SP8 is overpriced.
@@andyH_England what exactly makes it a bad tablet?
@@andyH_England Why compare the price of 8GB 256GB base MB Air to the 16GB SP8 model though? Wouldn't it be more fair to compare similar configs?
Having two deparate devices is an inconvenience most of the time, not an advantage. I mean, would you rather get your camera and phone separate, or just get an iPhone? Makes no sense.
But yeah, it is expensive regardless, no denying that.
@@AT-5000_Autodialer windows isn't exactly made for tablets where as ipad os is made for tablets
Secondly the touch responsiveness of windows isn't great
The second one mentions productivity the comparison is over. The SP8 followed by the Samsung in DEX mode. The iPad isn't comparable in a professional context.
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Which is best for taking notes ?
A good thing to add is that if you have the extra cash (assuming you can afford those tablets plus their keyboards, you probably do), you can add an external gpu for around 400 euroes on the surface. So you can basically use it as a tablet/laptop outside or at work, and as a full on desktop machine at your home. All you gotta do is connect a single thunderbolt wire, and your surface will be connected to a keyboard, mouse, gpu and a monitor. And you have 2 thunderbolt ports.
Great job helped me a lot
Surface Pro 8 is the only one you can use for work.
TRUST ME
Great head to head! Instant subscription, first time seeing your videos and it was really helpful. For me, I've ended up going with the Surface Pro 8. Price is hefty, but in terms of pure utility it just can't be beaten since it runs full Windows 11 and I can use all the same software and tools I currently use on my desktop PC. I don't plan to do any gaming whatsoever on the Surface Pro 8 (I have my desktop PC, a PS5 and a Nintendo Switch, so I'm fully covered in that area), it's purely just for being productive while on the move so I think overall it's the best choice. I just wish it cost a bit less than it does.
How about the battey life between the three?
Yeah he completely missed this out
I am actually using the tab s7+. And it is a great secondary device, something I can carry to a coffee shop and do some light office work. For someone who is not into editing photos/videos and who's work needs office applictions, the Tab S7+ is more than capable, specially with alternative office apps like WPS, you can get things done while having some fun.
Great review, you really showed the strength and combined power of the device and its OS capabilities. Anyone can make a choice from then onwards. Good review. The surface pro does it for me, I run some Eng programs, read and e learning, its a lot of things in 1. However, I just need a device for e learning in the meantime the tab being cheaper and coming with a pen already does it for now.
I’m about to replace my 10 year old laptop, and right now I would go for the Surface Pro 8.
If I don’t go that way, I think I could get a normal laptop with the same specs and also get an iPad (at the low end, not Pro) for about the same amount of money.
Why do I have the weird impression that this video is meant to discredit the Galaxy Tab S7 🤔?
Lack of application and power, seriously 😳?
Not to mention the fact that the ecosystem you mention for the iPad as a plus is also available for the Tab S7.
Using the Tab S7 as an additional screen (side car at Apple) has been feasible since long before it was on the iPad.
The Spen does not need to be recharged to operate.
And apparently you don't know what Dex is capable of?
To be fair:
1/ Android tablet apps are still well behind in quantity and quality of iPadOS, and the Tab s7 is the SD865 so is well behind in performance, whether that matters or not, it is a fact (Snapdragon 8 (SD898) released in a few days).
2/ The ecosystem is improving in the Samsung lines but its laptops are not that great and the watch is a work in progress.
3/ Correct viz additional display on the Tab S7, and I feel they are both close in implementation.
4/ Not bothered about charging as theApple Pencil charges wirelessly so little difference.
5/ DeX seems to have been abandoned by Samsung. I suspect their research suggests it is a niche feature used by a few diehards. TBH it is basically a windowed UI and many of us buy tablets to get away from that, even W11 has moved more towards mobileOS split-screens.
I think it was a good summation but if you are a hardcore Android user they may not matter.
Great video!
Chevy vs. Ford vs. Dodge. Thanks for this very clean and informative video. I like the Surface Pro line.
Which one is the best among the three in terms of creating quality digital art?
Whyyy would you compare these two top tier flagship to the samsung galaxy tab s7 instead of the s7 plus
Great, u did an amazing review and summarized all features in fantastic way
At the end, it depends on what u really need from device as also I believe that nothing like windows as an operating system
I was confusing what to get and for that reason I searched for comparing videos but now I decided to go with surface pro 8
Thanks for support
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I have an iPad and have seen more apps feeling like they are designed for iOS and not padOS with some developers dropping tablet versions, this is growing ever since Apple added screen rotation for iOS app on the iPad. In addition to that I have seen a few apps that force portrait and when using a keyboard that gives a poor experience. So, at this time Windows still has the best hybrid tablet/laptop experience, I agree with the statements about the iPad having the power to do real work but no software for professionals, the weirdness of the front facing camera (which I would love if apple would not put any cameras on the back and add multiple front facing ones and use software to combine them into an image that makes it have you looking in the right direction; could also make for better blurring), and home screen customization should be more like Android/desktop as forcing to a grid is very limiting.
iPad used to have more optimized apps for tablet, but in the short time that I have owned my iPad, I have seen more apps designed for phones or ones that force portrait rotation. With that I don’t feel like the iPad has a truly tablet experience, it is not that much different from Android with the feeling of it being just a large phone.
What would change my mind is floating windows, iOS apps forced to open as floating windows, an official calculator app (again this could be a floating window for the basic calculator and full screen for scientific/graphing), the ability for apps to fully use the M1 chip, multi monitor support that isn’t duplicating the screen (could be limited to requiring an external pointing device), multiuser, and side loading apps.
Everything that is wrong with the iPad has to do with the software, that could be fixed if Apple ever decides that iPads are not an accessory and is a fully complete device of its own.
All the comments I have seen from others have added support to what I stated above. (see those who think turning the iPad into an external monitor for macOS is better than bringing an portable monitor and an iPad).
I’ve had the iPad Pro 9.7 256gb since it launched and I find that despite all these years, nothing has come along that really blows it away… I’m frustrated with Apple and considering a change… these kind of reviews are helpful, the comments are even more insightful, salute 🙌🏼
Appreciate this review. I noticed the mic on the Surface Pro 8 sounded awful and was cutting out. Was that just a fluke or is the quality that poor? I really need a good mic, as I host weekly office hours for English learners (so they need to hear me clearly).
But why compare the iPad Pro M1 and Surface Pro 8 with just the TabS7 and not the TabS7+? Seems kinda unfair 🤔
The main differances is the surface can run any windows application, it can also run VM's or other OS's on it, were as the Samsung and the iPad are tablets that only run basically glorified phone aplications.
is the surface pro i5 8gb enough for video editing? if for video editing, is ipad pro 8gb or surface pro 8gb better?
It depends, with iPad your very limited, there’s not a lot of really great editing apps available on iPad while on surface you have the whole windows program on there so you’d have access to the best editing apps like premiere pro ect. I’d get the surface over iPad personally just because of how limited you are with iPad. Also if you ever need more storage you can upgrade the surface on the surface pro which you can’t do with iPad unless you could iCloud which i don’t really think is worth it but your choice.
For video editing you would need the 16gb on both. The 8gb will be sluggish and the battery will drain quickly.
Good overall Review of all 3 Devices. 👍
In the Surface, can you transfer data, use two monitors, power and ethernet through one usb type C or do you need the windows hub?
I got a used surface book for around the price of the S7+ and am really glad I did, but it is currently terrible in tablet mode.
I used to be an avid surface person but since switching to Samsung for school the writing experience is just way better
Also I have to add. I haven't used the latest surface pro but another big reason I left is because while it can use all eng software it kind of sucks at it. Solidworks chugs anysy chugs photoshop chugs, even coding on matlab chugs
What do you think about Chrome OS? When compared to the Galaxy Dex?
You missed out on the battery test and real life use case ):
You should've done the tab s7 plus and the iPad pro 12 in
Didn't the tab s7 cone out last year? Idk about the other 2 but I'm pretty sure the s7 series came out last summer
Bought Surface pro 8, yesterday. Very cool hybrid device to use as a laptop or a tablet. The best part is of course the Windows 11 OS.
you said the Gpu wasn't the best for gaming so I was good for gaming SO I was expecting you to actually mention the GPU it has but you didn't really mention the specs