The thing is about Frieza he most likely trained to the point of being stronger than a hypothetical Ultra Gogeta, and if that ain't Beerus level, then Beerus must be the Omni King or smth
How tf would he know how strong an UI Gogeta would be LMAO, he doesn't even know how strong Gogeta Blue is, cuz dude was suppressed against Broly (stated in the novels that he was only using a hint of his true power). Frieza definitely isn't beating the fusion
@herohunter5961 My bad, I shouldn't have said Frieza *most likely* trained to be stronger. What I meant is that, hypothetically, he *could* be stronger, especially since Frieza knows about Potara Fusion, the Fusion Dance, and the Ultra Forms. He wants to make sure he doesn't lose to the Saiyans, so he probably trained to the point where no one would stand a chance against him.
@@ItzAGRI really doubt it ui Gogeta is just hypothetical. With that argument you can say he’s seen Whis and Zeno and trained til he became stronger than them
@@DarthStalkers Comparing Frieza to Zeno or Whis is a bit out of scope. The original argument was about Frieza potentially surpassing a hypothetical Ultra Gogeta. Zeno and the Angels aren't even in the same tier of power discussion, as they're in a completely different class. Zeno doesn't even fight, and the Angels have strength and speed beyond the mortals. The focus was on Frieza training to surpass the hypothetical fusion, adding Zeno or any of the Angels into the equation complicates the comparison because their strength isn't relevant to Frieza's goal of overcoming the Saiyans.
I’m kinda understanding having the strongest god of destruction overseeing the lowest rated universe and having Jiren be stronger than his god of destruction kinda makes sense but dear god is DB AS A WHOLE so convoluted the power scaling and story just seems to be even more milked than the fast and furious franchise 😂
that whole "close to a god of destruction" talk needs to stop... either he is above or not close at all, because they have all been close to god of destruction levels for years.... one of the creators said that Beerus is still somehow stronger than MUI post Granolah arc, and you gonna tell me that Frieza who 1 shot UE Vegeta and MUI Goku at full strength post healing isnt stronger than Beerus ? Come on, i love Beerus but technically he was surpassed long ago
I just dont understand how yall think that beerus lvl is reached? never saw a moment where somebody actually made him sweat, he could solo all god at once apart from quitela (ofc apart from angels/zeno)
@@Brsrk9 if you are refering to the manga he didnt solo anything, he just dodged the other gods attacks, if anything Belmod is the strongest in the manga because at the end of the battle he didnt have a scratch and didnt need healing from his angel and guess what... Jiren is far above Belmod... all roads lead nowhere with Beerus, there salways some dumb reason for why hes "stronger" than everybody else...
Black frieza is not his final transformation, the middle part of him is white and watch it’ll turn golden he’ll be golden black frieza then he’ll become GOD OF DESTRUCTION DIAMOND BLACK FRIEZA
Swear the last we officially heard was Black frieza was close to God of destruction, with Beerus being the strongest G.O.D it seems fairly obvious who the winner is.
This guy intro had to be goofy like bro yhe strongest vs the strongest is a anime troap in every single action anime. How is that new ? Then u go on the list some of the worst examples
The thing is about Frieza he most likely trained to the point of being stronger than a hypothetical Ultra Gogeta, and if that ain't Beerus level, then Beerus must be the Omni King or smth
How tf would he know how strong an UI Gogeta would be LMAO, he doesn't even know how strong Gogeta Blue is, cuz dude was suppressed against Broly (stated in the novels that he was only using a hint of his true power). Frieza definitely isn't beating the fusion
@herohunter5961 My bad, I shouldn't have said Frieza *most likely* trained to be stronger. What I meant is that, hypothetically, he *could* be stronger, especially since Frieza knows about Potara Fusion, the Fusion Dance, and the Ultra Forms. He wants to make sure he doesn't lose to the Saiyans, so he probably trained to the point where no one would stand a chance against him.
@@ItzAGRI really doubt it ui Gogeta is just hypothetical. With that argument you can say he’s seen Whis and Zeno and trained til he became stronger than them
@@DarthStalkers Comparing Frieza to Zeno or Whis is a bit out of scope. The original argument was about Frieza potentially surpassing a hypothetical Ultra Gogeta. Zeno and the Angels aren't even in the same tier of power discussion, as they're in a completely different class. Zeno doesn't even fight, and the Angels have strength and speed beyond the mortals. The focus was on Frieza training to surpass the hypothetical fusion, adding Zeno or any of the Angels into the equation complicates the comparison because their strength isn't relevant to Frieza's goal of overcoming the Saiyans.
@@ItzAGR why’s it out of scope when Ultra Gogeta is just as hypothetical a power scale for Frieza to know?
I’m kinda understanding having the strongest god of destruction overseeing the lowest rated universe and having Jiren be stronger than his god of destruction kinda makes sense but dear god is DB AS A WHOLE so convoluted the power scaling and story just seems to be even more milked than the fast and furious franchise 😂
that whole "close to a god of destruction" talk needs to stop... either he is above or not close at all, because they have all been close to god of destruction levels for years.... one of the creators said that Beerus is still somehow stronger than MUI post Granolah arc, and you gonna tell me that Frieza who 1 shot UE Vegeta and MUI Goku at full strength post healing isnt stronger than Beerus ? Come on, i love Beerus but technically he was surpassed long ago
Beerus one shots Black Freeza
I just dont understand how yall think that beerus lvl is reached? never saw a moment where somebody actually made him sweat, he could solo all god at once apart from quitela (ofc apart from angels/zeno)
Beerus isn’t losing to that bum
@@Brsrk9 if you are refering to the manga he didnt solo anything, he just dodged the other gods attacks, if anything Belmod is the strongest in the manga because at the end of the battle he didnt have a scratch and didnt need healing from his angel and guess what... Jiren is far above Belmod... all roads lead nowhere with Beerus, there salways some dumb reason for why hes "stronger" than everybody else...
beerus has been the goalpost in super for longer than frieza cell and buu lasted in dragonball combined. this shit been going on for TOO DAMN LONG
Black frieza is not his final transformation, the middle part of him is white and watch it’ll turn golden he’ll be golden black frieza then he’ll become GOD OF DESTRUCTION DIAMOND BLACK FRIEZA
behold, the ultimate credit card (Toriyama rest in peace you had such an interesting perception in his transformation)
Why Krane needs to edit Faster...
Leave em alone 😭😭
Gohan: ahem
Swear the last we officially heard was Black frieza was close to God of destruction, with Beerus being the strongest G.O.D it seems fairly obvious who the winner is.
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wait so they are continuing the super manga even after the creators passing?
look it up because what you said was horribly worded
This guy intro had to be goofy like bro yhe strongest vs the strongest is a anime troap in every single action anime. How is that new ? Then u go on the list some of the worst examples
I literally say in the intro "we've seen this before." I get listening ain't your strong suit but damn 😭
Top 7 early
"aksing". Yeah I don't watch with bad, wannabe cool English like that.
Than why did you comment 💀