You have not ridden in a procraft lmao, they ride so dang smooth, even had guys who have owned stratos, Phoenix, ranger, etc compliment how nice it rides. Not a single issue here. 👎🏼 bad take
I had a 1987 14' Glasstream in 1988 & 1989 while in the air force and it was one of my favorite boats! I would sometimes fish that thing 3 times a week preparing for tournaments and it was beautiful and trouble free :) I sold it for what I paid for it 2 years later.
I bet you weren’t 25 doing your best impersonating of Bo Duke on Lake Ontario with it! I managed to separate the deck from the hull of my Brute 3 when it was 6 months old. I replaced it with a Ranger and broke everything except the boat. Sheared the bolts out of the trim pump and the upper motor mounts.
I owned a 89 Rajun Cajun that served me well for 18 years and Cajun was a great product until the company was sold and the product went downhill quickly. But why would I try to explain this to someone who endorses Suzuki 🤣
I must of gotten lucky with my 94 Procraft V-180B had it about 12 years and been a great boat and one of the best riding boats I been in and I've rode in alot of brands lol i have a 2015 skeeter zx250 now also but still love my Procraft and take it out too
My father bought a Bayliner in 1989 with a force 125. We ran that boat for 30 years with no problems. Yes it wasn’t the fastest in the world, but it never gave us problems. Just replaced it in 2019.
I have a 1994 Astro still runs like the day I bought it. 135 Merc 17’ 6 paid 14,000. I fish out of it every week. What are your thoughts on this brand. Thanks née subscriber.
Don’t understand what makes em junk to you,ya don’t explain anything,just an opinion base on colors aren’t your favorite,and the love for the word junk,just cuz ya say it doesn’t make it so!! Happy holidays
I noticed that to....and he doesn't realize he works at a boat shop, so your going to get all the messed up made on a Friday boats....he's not seeing the boats that's been on the water sense the 80s and is still going.
My first "big boat" was a winner tournament 2 in 2007. I was 18 and it had been garage kept its whole life and didnt have a scratch on it. I ran it for probably 5 years and loved it. I think that was the first year they didnt out wood in them but i could be wrong
I had a 1997 200 Bass PRO CRAFT with a 200 MERCURY. Most stable boat I've ever been in. Little tough in rough water. Didn't get wet. 67 mph. Loved that boat. Still wished I had that boat.
@@TeamMarineService I LOVE WATCHING YOUR CREATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE ON WHAT GAS YOU WOULD RECOMMEND ON OLDER MOTORS. LIKE MINE... 2003 250 XS RACING. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
I literally have an appointment to see a garage kept Procraft 1989 195V this week. 200HP V^ Evenrude, two lawrance fishfinders, new minn kota trolling motor, service records, shiny like new, low hours etc... Looks great and was thinking about buying. Would it be okay for local tournaments? Is Procraft really that bad guys?
My first bass boat, before I knew any better, was a Tidecraft. It was awful. Since then I have owned multiple ProCraft boats. The first one was an ‘85 model. Although it did ride a bit wet, it was a good, solid boat. They changed the hulls in the ‘90’s and it was a whole new ballgame. Not wet at all. Rode and handled well. Very fishable. Excellent value. I would love to have another later model ProCraft. His dislike for ProCraft had to be their earlier boats because their later boats were nice.
Hey I have a Suzuki 350 outboard on my boat. I am using the my wedge but don’t want to ruin my seals. Do you recommend a transom saver for the big Suzuki?
I’ve got a 97 Cajun and it is light years ahead of it’s time. It’s 19 foot, has more storage and handles big water better than any that size I’ve ridden in. Also doesn’t have a stress crack anywhere
I bought a Tidecraft Spitfire V15 and had to put a floor and stringers in it. Did not have complete coverage of glass and resin on the stringers from the factory.
Well, you are wrong about the procraft. I owned a procraft back in the early 80ies for 6 years. Absolutely one of the best boats I've ever owned. It was not a wet ride at all and I fished big water like Guntersville, Seminole, Pickwick, Wilson and others. And it was one of fastest boats on the water at the time.
I had to laugh with no.1,omg,Bayliner bass boat,a guy brought one to me for work,said it was porpoising on plane,well he put a merc 150 on it and completely destroyed the transom,it was like jello,lucky he didn't die,then I sold him a procraft 18' that the guy couldn't pay the bill,I scored that day!
@@TeamMarineService Yes, It is holding up very well. I have taken some rough water with it and it rode incredibly comfortably. I have no complaints about the boat. The boat performs like I would expect it too and I have high expectations from a boat.
I own a procraft 200 and can't part with it. I've never gotten wet, and fixed everything that's warn out with ease compared to my 2 rangers and nitro. And at 67mph GPS was faster that the rest
I owned a 1996 Cajun 185 for 20 years . Rode decent . It was fast and it got on plane fast. Don’t think it had the fit and finish of something like a Ranger or a Champion but it was a pretty good boat and it lasted a long time.
I have a 98 procraft. Mine rides good, I havent had the issues you talk about but there are a few things that i dont like. 1. Loses alot of speed in turns and takes a while to build back up. 2. Hole shot is kinda slow. 3. Lots of water coming over the back if you dont make a perfect stop
Haha, love your videos. I actually have a 1989 Tidecraft with an old Merc 175 Blackmax lol. For as old as it is, it’s still going strong. You can tell it’s a 1989 but it does what I need it to.
Bought a new Procraft with the Tower of Power. Took my Dad to Tennessee to Crappie fish. Sitting in the water 24 hours and it was taking on water and sinking. Tried the bilge pump on a new boat and the motor came on but it would not pump. Had to trailer it every day to let the water run out. Got home and sold it to my supervisor at work who was a douche. We weren’t friends after that😂
Correct on the Skeeter Wrangler. Mine had the deck coming off and looked like it was made by a drunk on Saturday morning. Badly finished gel coat. Also dealer sold it without dual steering and was a bear to drive.
Good list of bad boats except... The Skeeter Wrangler. That boat was innovative for it’s time. Back in the late 70s John Storie bought a Wrangler, brought it back to Mountain Home AK, splashed the hull and used it as the basis of the first Champion Super-V boats. So without the Wrangler, our beloved Champion wouldn’t have been.
I got a 1996 Cajun 186s. Rock solid boat. Other than carpets, I put nothing into this boat. Why are they gone? Bought by Ranger and ranger closed them.
Many days I would have loved to have had just about any of those boats! Glad that I now have a tin boat. My first and only glass boat was a 1978 TomBoy. 14 feet of crap with a 35 Johnson! I think I paid like 2800 bucks, boat, motor, trailer. And I was happy cause I could go fishing! Love your videos Andy. You keep it real.
Hello Nascarlover . I think that Stratos when they were around made some pretty Good Bass Boats. I use to own a 1992 Stratos 295 Pro 19 '6 that was powered by a 1992 Evinrude XP200 . It was a pretty good old Bass Boat , Stable , Dry ride , Comfortable and Fast with Lots of Storage and Room to Fish.
To be fair Bayliners had Forces because they owned Force.... My family had one since new. My dad was meticulous with maintenance and never had much of an issue with it it was 30% less than most other comparable rigs. Of course it was a 1980s glass boat so fit and finish wasnt much even taken care of, and you are right about the ride...
Here in Georgia, Glasstream sold a bunch of boats back in the 80s/early 90s. I have fished out of ProCraft and a lot of the Glasstreams. Hey...we didn’t know any better.
astro is pro craft. pro crafts are actually great boats in my opinion. I dont understand why he does not like them. everyone in the comment section who owns/ owned one likes them (myself included).
My dad had a 1994 Cajun Travis edition 21 1/2 ft with a 200 hp Johnson Venom. it was about 14 years old when he bought it and it was in great shape. The only issue was the typical power pack on the Johnson.
Vexus AVX1880, or 1980 dual console. you can hook up and go fish tournaments. Mine came with dual helix 9s , Ipilot. 36k towed it home. The options mine came with embarrasses my buddy’s for what they had to pay for their rangers /Lunds (pop rivet junk , just paying for the name comes with no options) , talk to Kenny here in Ohio at fisherman’s central. He will hook u up
Got 31 years out of my 1988 17 foot Bayliner Bass Boat with 85 HP Force. Just repowered it last summer when the Force gave out. It went to the shop only 2 times in all those years. Put a fair amount of bass into the boat as well. All the original accessories are present including seats with no rips and motorguide. Did the radio, the cb, the bilge pump once and that was it. Fresh new Mercury on it with a couple of extra horses and it was good as new. Keeping the water out of them in the off-season, was all anyone needed to do to keep them from falling apart.
My dad owned a boat shop in south Louisiana in the 80s and 90s and even though he had new boats he built and sold, his bread and butter was replacing floors decks stringers and transoms in those old skeeters.
Hey Team Marine, do you have a recommendation on where to go to marine mechanic school. And also wanna say thanks again for fixing my destroyed lower during the High school Nationals last year!
1985 ProCraft 1510V with a 50hp Johnson. I must have got lucky. It rides nice, stay dry and very happy with the stability. Planes out nice and handles bends of the lake very well. The Johnson may only do 30mph on a good day, although this ProCraft I am very happy with. Great Shape Too!
Just got my grandpas 87 Bayliner bass boat. It’s never had any problems for the past 20 years he has had it. Yes the front deck is a little soft but it’s 30 plus’s years old and I’m 6’3” and 255 pounds.
My 165 Pro Craft is great little hull. It's been overpowered for years and has held up great and handles well at speed. It's just heavy. The Glasstream, (later Basstream) had 1 1/2" transoms, were rated for 150's and might crack with you in em going 60. Guy in our club had one. The Bayliners were built locally for years. You got what you paid for.
Love the videos man. I run a 1987 Champion 184 dc super v fish and ski model with a blackmax 200hp. All the goodies, trim, hot foot jack plate. She rips and rides so nice.
Why is the original nitro not on here. You could open the rod locker and it was lit up by the light passing through the hull. They would just bust in half.
I had a Cajun and it was junk. Saw a guy delaminate a Glass Stream the first day he had it on the Hudson. My buddy warrantied 6 Tide Crafts in one year, I think the best one lasted 5 weeks. Good list!
I have been in a mid to late 90's 18.5' Cajun a few times. It rode very well and fished well. The owner had no complaints about it. He upgraded to a 20' Progator which is another obscure brand that also rides and fishes surprisingly well. I am a Champion homer and find the ride is quite impressive actually.
I have a 97 Cajun 185. It's when they changed the colors and styling and also one of the last boats they built before they went out of business. If you look at the hardware on the boat some of the best in the industry especially for that time, and they were known for being a good ride for a smaller boat. The transom and stringers are composite and I know a transom is pretty much indestructible
What's funny is I've owned 4 of these on your list still own a glasstream love it but it is one of the late 80s v models but you're right the lids are JUNK
@@jaysonsetzer2287 I have a 98 sitting here at my shop it's a 180 with a 150 and it's still in great shape and you're correct the latches and other hardware are really nice aluminum.
Used to have a Bayliner Bass Striker 1710 with 75 Force (dads) when i was younger. Did have to waste leave time replacing decking one year. Carbs took some getting used to but otherwise no issues. That one did get sold off. We never had another bass boat.
No, haven't ridden one of those gems. Yet. My question for you Mark is can you get one of Lowrance HDS scope with Active Target Sonar for evaluation? Have any of your sponsored anglers use Lowrance? If you have, how does it stack up to the Hummingbird and the Garmin? Stay safe guys.
Love the list. Owned a 1988 bass trophy with the force 125 new. Loved that boat even though it was junk. Sold it in 2002. That boat is still running the lower Colorado river today. Still smoking and overheating, but never left me stranded. My optimax has let me down more than I can count. Crazy.
Man I have a 1992 tidecraft and it's been a very dependable boat. The transom is still in solid condition. Still glides across the lake. I will say the gel coat is getting bad. But as for the hull no soft spots. I will admit I can't afford a high dollar boat and I've kept up with maintenance and upgrades and I've been pleased with this old boat.
I got a 87 glasstream 176 with a evinrude 150hp it’s an amazing boat except it’s a little bow heavy for some reason. Does 67mph and I fish solo so it works for me. Plus it was only $2,200
I loved my Cajun. Had a 19' with a Johnson 200 on it. Ran mid 60's all day and rode great! Wasn't the prettiest thing to look at, but it fished well. Only thing I had to do was replace the floor. But, you take almost any 1980's bass boat and they all had wood floor. And they all rotted.
I had a Bayliner trophy bass and yeah it was junk but I rebuilt the whole thing ripped it all out built new decks and wasn't unhappy with it but its heavy as hell.And yeah there's no taking off fast lol
I had a tidecraft wildfire,150 merc…fast as hell….broke transom 3 times,split it from bow eye to plug once…my 1st real bass boat….worked on it as much as I fished in it….bought a new 1995 Champ 186,took trolling motor ,graphs,batteries,the Merc 150 and put it on the Champion….cut the tidecraft up with a chainsaw and put it in the dumpster
Completely agree about ProCraft. Fished 2 tournament seasons with a 2005 210 super pro. Very wet and unstable for me. If you came off plane too fast water would come up to the console!
Ive seen that bayliner Hahahaha!! It looks awful. However, I had a 95 Astro S-17B with a 120 Force motor. Used that thing for 4 years ALOT! Never had an issue with it. Maybe I sold it just in time.
I don't know much about the Winner Bass Boats, however the Winner Bay boats and sport boats, in my opinion are one of the best boats made behind the Grady White. Why do I say this? The Hull on them is indestructible, they do not have wood stringers and the transom has no wood in them. They are Rot free boats. The Hull itself is over 2 inches thick. I have a 1989 Winner Marathon 2050 and every dealer that has seen this boat has had nothing but great things to say about the design and durability of these boats. These hulls will not crack. This boat has been in my family since it was new, and we have seen 12 Ft swells in this thing. It has taken a beating. It was on a boat lift at my family's property and got a direct hit from Hurricane Ian where it's at in Southwest Florida. The boat lift is galvanized steel, and it broke in half, and 2 pilings broke in half as well.The boat had some minor scuffs on the hull and scratched decals. I took it to a repair shop they inspected it, touched up the gel coat and when they checked everything over and said, these are super strong boats with a solid hull and transom. Then I did more research on them, sure enough found out the US military used Winner Boats for decades because of the durability. But like I said I don't know much about the winner bass boats.
Pro Craft was number 10 LMMFAO YOu do realize that clun and Horton ran those boats for a long time. And if you’re hating on a procraft just hate on a nitro made by the same company bro! And they was nothing wrong with those old Cajun boats.
Great Video ! Couldn't agree more but please keep in mind yes the Bayliner Bass Trophy was JUNK but the Trophy line is very vast leading into the larger Pilothouse models and yachts . I have a 1982 Bayliner 2270 Explorer built for Alaska and I love it . Orwin Edson was a smart man . Dumped the company off to Bruinswick in 1986 , he saw the jet skis coming to destroy his cheap hydroplane market , along with Bass Pro with their boats . So he stuck with the yacht market and gave away millions to charity . Check out the 1980's Before Bruinswick Bayliner Explorerers & Trophies that were built for Alaska . They're a whole different class of boats . Bayliner was the worlds largest recreational boat manufacteur . Today it's Bass Pro . Didn't they just buy Hatteras ? Great Company .
I have a Cajun mach vI and my buddy runs a Cajun brat both boats are from 1979 and still out getting it done. There bothe the sparkle blue also. Love these boats the Mach v1 should be talked about more
You have not ridden in a procraft lmao, they ride so dang smooth, even had guys who have owned stratos, Phoenix, ranger, etc compliment how nice it rides. Not a single issue here. 👎🏼 bad take
That implies that Stratos, Phoenix and Ranger's ride good then right? Lol
@TeamMarineService yea I still have my stratos 201 and love it
I had a 1987 14' Glasstream in 1988 & 1989 while in the air force and it was one of my favorite boats! I would sometimes fish that thing 3 times a week preparing for tournaments and it was beautiful and trouble free :) I sold it for what I paid for it 2 years later.
If it was so great, why did you sell it?!?
@@DogGuy19 I got assigned to RAF Bentwaters in England.
Got a 96 Cajun Green Bay Packer Green and Gold still running and looking good
Go Pack Go!
I bet you weren’t 25 doing your best impersonating of Bo Duke on Lake Ontario with it! I managed to separate the deck from the hull of my Brute 3 when it was 6 months old. I replaced it with a Ranger and broke everything except the boat. Sheared the bolts out of the trim pump and the upper motor mounts.
I owned a 89 Rajun Cajun that served me well for 18 years and Cajun was a great product until the company was sold and the product went downhill quickly. But why would I try to explain this to someone who endorses Suzuki 🤣
I’ve got a 1990 and love it!!
@@troystockdale5474 I heard Suzuki has a great 4 stroke
I must of gotten lucky with my 94 Procraft V-180B had it about 12 years and been a great boat and one of the best riding boats I been in and I've rode in alot of brands lol i have a 2015 skeeter zx250 now also but still love my Procraft and take it out too
I bought a brand new procraft in 07 pro 176 with a four stroke never got wet an still running strong
My father bought a Bayliner in 1989 with a force 125. We ran that boat for 30 years with no problems. Yes it wasn’t the fastest in the world, but it never gave us problems. Just replaced it in 2019.
Wow that's great to hear Keith! Sounds like ya got a good one!
i own a1985 pro craft in prestine condition love it
I have a 1994 Astro still runs like the day I bought it. 135 Merc 17’ 6 paid 14,000. I fish out of it every week. What are your thoughts on this brand. Thanks née subscriber.
@C B best boat I ever owned. Take it our every week.
@@davidkeith8687 good boats. I had a 95 S17 - B . Really liked it. They was popular back 94-98.
Bought a Cajun boat a year ago and absolutely love it!
I’ve got a 1990 cajun with a 120hp Johnson and love it!
i have a 96 ragin cajun 180sc love it rides great
1979 mach vI it’s a sick boat
Love my 1998 Cajun fish and ski with Johnson 150
Don’t understand what makes em junk to you,ya don’t explain anything,just an opinion base on colors aren’t your favorite,and the love for the word junk,just cuz ya say it doesn’t make it so!! Happy holidays
I noticed that to....and he doesn't realize he works at a boat shop, so your going to get all the messed up made on a Friday boats....he's not seeing the boats that's been on the water sense the 80s and is still going.
My first "big boat" was a winner tournament 2 in 2007. I was 18 and it had been garage kept its whole life and didnt have a scratch on it. I ran it for probably 5 years and loved it. I think that was the first year they didnt out wood in them but i could be wrong
Love my Quantum! Except I had to replace the decking, carpets, seats, and redo the gelcoat. Other than that...
Hey Andy what is your opionion on the 90s era javelin boats? Thanks for your time
We weren't big fans personally. They were Triton's before Triton.
Love this, LMMFAO ! Great Video
I had a 1997 200 Bass PRO CRAFT with a 200 MERCURY. Most stable boat I've ever been in. Little tough in rough water. Didn't get wet. 67 mph. Loved that boat. Still wished I had that boat.
Nice! Glad ya had a positive experience with it
@@TeamMarineService I LOVE WATCHING YOUR CREATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE ON WHAT GAS YOU WOULD RECOMMEND ON OLDER MOTORS. LIKE MINE... 2003 250 XS RACING. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
I have the Exact same boat. A bit more stable than my dads Cobra. Rough water, its not near as good as the Cobra, but its not bad to me.
U never owned a ranger lol
@@reddawng43x91 I've owned 3 Rangers. Great boats as well.
I literally have an appointment to see a garage kept Procraft 1989 195V this week. 200HP V^ Evenrude, two lawrance fishfinders, new minn kota trolling motor, service records, shiny like new, low hours etc... Looks great and was thinking about buying. Would it be okay for local tournaments? Is Procraft really that bad guys?
If it's in your price range and you like it then it's perfect in our opinion. It's a very wet ride in our experience
My first bass boat, before I knew any better, was a Tidecraft. It was awful. Since then I have owned multiple ProCraft boats. The first one was an ‘85 model. Although it did ride a bit wet, it was a good, solid boat. They changed the hulls in the ‘90’s and it was a whole new ballgame. Not wet at all. Rode and handled well. Very fishable. Excellent value. I would love to have another later model ProCraft. His dislike for ProCraft had to be their earlier boats because their later boats were nice.
I got a 95 180 b and yea its a little wet but I do enjoy the procrafts I've been in 2 and enjoyed them
No I have had mine for 20 years it's still going strong don't get wet either
Would love to see a top 10 list of dicountiued boat brands. Great video as always from you and the crew!
PLEAZZZZE!!!! Yes, best deal for the money! 115, 150, 200 and 250 boats! Give top 3 boats for each motor level.
Me too! Had a Sprint for years loved that boat ! Zero issues!!!
Well the top two would be champion and then gambler.
Would love to see this. Still running my Cobra 216 every week.
@@alphacapo gambler is still made
Hey I have a Suzuki 350 outboard on my boat. I am using the my wedge but don’t want to ruin my seals. Do you recommend a transom saver for the big Suzuki?
I’ve never owned a boat but even I got a good laugh about Chrysler making a bass boat 🤣
I’ve got a 97 Cajun and it is light years ahead of it’s time. It’s 19 foot, has more storage and handles big water better than any that size I’ve ridden in. Also doesn’t have a stress crack anywhere
That's great! Glad it's holding up for ya!
I’ve got a 1990 that’s amazing!
@@WhatBrianDo Is yours aluminum? Looking at getting one locally. Would love your opinion.
ya iv got a 96 180sc and it rides great
Any experience with HydraSports? Looking at a 1995 185E this weekend
Can't say I agree about the Procraft. Grandads got a newer one and its a dry riding boat.
We got an 08 and it’s fast rides nice and it’s dry
I have a 87’ glasstream with a 87’ merc 115 I like the boat. Rides a lot better than i thought it would. Also moves pretty good for a 115.
What isyour opinion of a Randall Craft boat?
I bought a Tidecraft Spitfire V15 and had to put a floor and stringers in it. Did not have complete coverage of glass and resin on the stringers from the factory.
Well, you are wrong about the procraft. I owned a procraft back in the early 80ies for 6 years. Absolutely one of the best boats I've ever owned. It was not a wet ride at all and I fished big water like Guntersville, Seminole, Pickwick, Wilson and others. And it was one of fastest boats on the water at the time.
I had to laugh with no.1,omg,Bayliner bass boat,a guy brought one to me for work,said it was porpoising on plane,well he put a merc 150 on it and completely destroyed the transom,it was like jello,lucky he didn't die,then I sold him a procraft 18' that the guy couldn't pay the bill,I scored that day!
No.... your wrong. You're the guy that would say " I had a toaster once that would shock me whenever I used it...but it made some great toast!" 🤡
Stupid people say stupid things.
I own a procraft and have no problems with it. I dont get wet like this guy talks about. Ever thought of operator error?
Is it holding up well for ya Jaron?
@@TeamMarineService Yes, It is holding up very well. I have taken some rough water with it and it rode incredibly comfortably. I have no complaints about the boat. The boat performs like I would expect it too and I have high expectations from a boat.
I own a procraft 200 and can't part with it. I've never gotten wet, and fixed everything that's warn out with ease compared to my 2 rangers and nitro. And at 67mph GPS was faster that the rest
@@joewinkler2168mine gets me wet alot
What do you think of the Sprint 207 pro tournament bass boat? I know they no longer make them but how are the hulls.
My 200 super pro procraft is badass!! Kinda.
Have a 1990 cajun 1850... Use it for inshore/nearshore fishing.. rides smooth, handles perfectly.
I’ve got a 1990 too. Love it!
@@WhatBrianDo absolutely a bastard to get parts for😂
I owned a 1996 Cajun 185 for 20 years . Rode decent . It was fast and it got on plane fast. Don’t think it had the fit and finish of something like a Ranger or a Champion but it was a pretty good boat and it lasted a long time.
I’ve got a 1990 and love it!
Some youngsters dont understand history ?
We sold them for a couple of years and they where good boats
Me and by buddy both have Cajuns from 1979 there both still solid
I own a 171 Cajun other than having to replace all of the wood decking with cooks board I love it
That was supposed to say coosa lol
I have a 98 procraft. Mine rides good, I havent had the issues you talk about but there are a few things that i dont like. 1. Loses alot of speed in turns and takes a while to build back up. 2. Hole shot is kinda slow. 3. Lots of water coming over the back if you dont make a perfect stop
Haha, love your videos. I actually have a 1989 Tidecraft with an old Merc 175 Blackmax lol. For as old as it is, it’s still going strong. You can tell it’s a 1989 but it does what I need it to.
I actually won my very first bass tournament from a Bayliner trophy w/ a 60ish HP force. Memories lol.
I've got a 1977 Cajun I restored, its been in my family since day 1. I like it of course. Sentimental mainly but now just fine!
What you think about sprint bass boats i own one and I think its amazing rides smooth and is quick
Bought a new Procraft with the Tower of Power. Took my Dad to Tennessee to Crappie fish. Sitting in the water 24 hours and it was taking on water and sinking. Tried the bilge pump on a new boat and the motor came on but it would not pump. Had to trailer it every day to let the water run out. Got home and sold it to my supervisor at work who was a douche. We weren’t friends after that😂
What about the 210 super pro?
Correct on the Skeeter Wrangler. Mine had the deck coming off and looked like it was made by a drunk on Saturday morning. Badly finished gel coat. Also dealer sold it without dual steering and was a bear to drive.
Good list of bad boats except... The Skeeter Wrangler. That boat was innovative for it’s time. Back in the late 70s John Storie bought a Wrangler, brought it back to Mountain Home AK, splashed the hull and used it as the basis of the first Champion Super-V boats. So without the Wrangler, our beloved Champion wouldn’t have been.
I got a 1996 Cajun 186s. Rock solid boat. Other than carpets, I put nothing into this boat.
Why are they gone?
Bought by Ranger and ranger closed them.
Many days I would have loved to have had just about any of those boats! Glad that I now have a tin boat. My first and only glass boat was a 1978 TomBoy. 14 feet of crap with a 35 Johnson! I think I paid like 2800 bucks, boat, motor, trailer. And I was happy cause I could go fishing! Love your videos Andy. You keep it real.
I owned a procraft 1750v. It was an awesome boat
Opinion on Stratos?
Hello Nascarlover . I think that Stratos when they were around made some pretty Good Bass Boats. I use to own a 1992 Stratos 295 Pro 19 '6 that was powered by a 1992 Evinrude XP200 . It was a pretty good old Bass Boat , Stable , Dry ride , Comfortable and Fast with Lots of Storage and Room to Fish.
What do u think about a '86 astroglass f&s 20' with 200 yammy?
Brown and green bass boats are awesome! I love those 80's colors.
Glad hydrosport didn't make the list what's you're input on hydrosprt bass boats
Any information on hurst boats? I recently purchased a hurst 17ft bass boat. I can’t find any info other than they where built in Florida
How do you know if they are junk if you've never fished or worked on one?
Popular opinion
To be fair Bayliners had Forces because they owned Force.... My family had one since new. My dad was meticulous with maintenance and never had much of an issue with it it was 30% less than most other comparable rigs. Of course it was a 1980s glass boat so fit and finish wasnt much even taken care of, and you are right about the ride...
Bayliner made a bass boat? Or at least attempted too?
They sure tried to! 🤣
What’s your opinion on bomber bass boat
Here in Georgia, Glasstream sold a bunch of boats back in the 80s/early 90s. I have fished out of ProCraft and a lot of the Glasstreams. Hey...we didn’t know any better.
I have a glasstream and it’s a solid boat. 1985 was evidently a good year lol
What’s the general consensus on Astro bass boats? I got offered a good deal on a 97 185 with a 175 merc
astro is pro craft. pro crafts are actually great boats in my opinion. I dont understand why he does not like them. everyone in the comment section who owns/ owned one likes them (myself included).
My dad had a 1994 Cajun Travis edition 21 1/2 ft with a 200 hp Johnson Venom. it was about 14 years old when he bought it and it was in great shape. The only issue was the typical power pack on the Johnson.
Love this video had to watch it again, keep them coming.
Looking to buy my first new bass boat you should do a top 5 for beginners.
Vexus AVX1880, or 1980 dual console. you can hook up and go fish tournaments. Mine came with dual helix 9s , Ipilot. 36k towed it home. The options mine came with embarrasses my buddy’s for what they had to pay for their rangers /Lunds (pop rivet junk , just paying for the name comes with no options) , talk to Kenny here in Ohio at fisherman’s central. He will hook u up
@@bigbeef8935 I'm down in Arkansas there are a couple of dealers a little closer to me but I've been doing hard research on them
@@bigbeef8935 I would not classify Vexus as a beginner boat; at least from what I have heard.
what do you think about Sprint bass boats
Love the vids and stay safe also keep it up
Thanks Ryan! You stay safe too buddy
Got 31 years out of my 1988 17 foot Bayliner Bass Boat with 85 HP Force. Just repowered it last summer when the Force gave out. It went to the shop only 2 times in all those years. Put a fair amount of bass into the boat as well. All the original accessories are present including seats with no rips and motorguide. Did the radio, the cb, the bilge pump once and that was it. Fresh new Mercury on it with a couple of extra horses and it was good as new. Keeping the water out of them in the off-season, was all anyone needed to do to keep them from falling apart.
😂😂😂 I would never spend hard earned money for a expensive Mercury outboard and put it on a 35 year old Bayliner bass boat! 😭🤣
My dad owned a boat shop in south Louisiana in the 80s and 90s and even though he had new boats he built and sold, his bread and butter was replacing floors decks stringers and transoms in those old skeeters.
Hey Team Marine, do you have a recommendation on where to go to marine mechanic school. And also wanna say thanks again for fixing my destroyed lower during the High school Nationals last year!
MMI in Florida
@@TeamMarineService can you do a top ten on Stratos boat I own a 21xl pro star
1985 ProCraft 1510V with a 50hp Johnson. I must have got lucky. It rides nice, stay dry and very happy with the stability. Planes out nice and handles bends of the lake very well. The Johnson may only do 30mph on a good day, although this ProCraft I am very happy with. Great Shape Too!
What you think about a king fisher
Hey man you didn’t have to come for my glass treat I love it
Just got my grandpas 87 Bayliner bass boat. It’s never had any problems for the past 20 years he has had it. Yes the front deck is a little soft but it’s 30 plus’s years old and I’m 6’3” and 255 pounds.
My 165 Pro Craft is great little hull. It's been overpowered for years and has held up great and handles well at speed. It's just heavy. The Glasstream, (later Basstream) had 1 1/2" transoms, were rated for 150's and might crack with you in em going 60. Guy in our club had one. The Bayliners were built locally for years. You got what you paid for.
Love the videos man. I run a 1987 Champion 184 dc super v fish and ski model with a blackmax 200hp. All the goodies, trim, hot foot jack plate. She rips and rides so nice.
Why is the original nitro not on here. You could open the rod locker and it was lit up by the light passing through the hull. They would just bust in half.
Yeah those were garbage too!
I had a Cajun and it was junk. Saw a guy delaminate a Glass Stream the first day he had it on the Hudson. My buddy warrantied 6 Tide Crafts in one year, I think the best one lasted 5 weeks. Good list!
The Hudson broke a lot of boats back in the day, Ed. So did the St. Lawrence.
why tracker is not on your list?
They are probably #12! haha
Comment below if any of you've ever ridden or owned one of these classic gems!
I had a winner back in 87 a z880 with a Yamaha 175 . It would fly but chine walked to a point of ass clinching
I have been in a mid to late 90's 18.5' Cajun a few times. It rode very well and fished well. The owner had no complaints about it. He upgraded to a 20' Progator which is another obscure brand that also rides and fishes surprisingly well. I am a Champion homer and find the ride is quite impressive actually.
I have a 97 Cajun 185. It's when they changed the colors and styling and also one of the last boats they built before they went out of business. If you look at the hardware on the boat some of the best in the industry especially for that time, and they were known for being a good ride for a smaller boat. The transom and stringers are composite and I know a transom is pretty much indestructible
What's funny is I've owned 4 of these on your list still own a glasstream love it but it is one of the late 80s v models but you're right the lids are JUNK
@@jaysonsetzer2287 I have a 98 sitting here at my shop it's a 180 with a 150 and it's still in great shape and you're correct the latches and other hardware are really nice aluminum.
Used to have a Bayliner Bass Striker 1710 with 75 Force (dads) when i was younger. Did have to waste leave time replacing decking one year. Carbs took some getting used to but otherwise no issues. That one did get sold off. We never had another bass boat.
No, haven't ridden one of those gems. Yet. My question for you Mark is can you get one of Lowrance HDS scope with Active Target Sonar for evaluation? Have any of your sponsored anglers use Lowrance? If you have, how does it stack up to the Hummingbird and the Garmin? Stay safe guys.
Love the list. Owned a 1988 bass trophy with the force 125 new. Loved that boat even though it was junk. Sold it in 2002. That boat is still running the lower Colorado river today. Still smoking and overheating, but never left me stranded. My optimax has let me down more than I can count. Crazy.
Not a fan of the optimax? I’m about to buy one. Should I be worried?
What’s your take on a fox craft bass boat?
Man I have a 1992 tidecraft and it's been a very dependable boat. The transom is still in solid condition. Still glides across the lake. I will say the gel coat is getting bad. But as for the hull no soft spots. I will admit I can't afford a high dollar boat and I've kept up with maintenance and upgrades and I've been pleased with this old boat.
In Alaska they used to refer to Bayliners as "disposable boats".
That's a nationwide reference 😂
HAHAHA!!!!
Would love to see some walleye boat comparisons, not just bass boats all the time
Proud owner of a bayliner cobra 1903 with force 150 first boat I've owned. Gets the job done!
Still holding up well for ya Brandon?
@@TeamMarineService second summer with it no complaints engine starts right up
I got a 87 glasstream 176 with a evinrude 150hp it’s an amazing boat except it’s a little bow heavy for some reason. Does 67mph and I fish solo so it works for me. Plus it was only $2,200
Had a Bayliner Bass Striker 1810 at one point that had a 85hp Force. Hated the motor but the boat was ok for what it was at the time.
I loved my Cajun. Had a 19' with a Johnson 200 on it. Ran mid 60's all day and rode great! Wasn't the prettiest thing to look at, but it fished well. Only thing I had to do was replace the floor. But, you take almost any 1980's bass boat and they all had wood floor. And they all rotted.
My procraft dc 185 does good for me
Got a 92 stratos needs some work done to it the hurricane damage it
Oh that's no bueno Wesley, Hope you get it fixed up pronto!
I have a skeeter never had any issues with it and mines white and blue
I had a Bayliner trophy bass and yeah it was junk but I rebuilt the whole thing ripped it all out built new decks and wasn't unhappy with it but its heavy as hell.And yeah there's no taking off fast lol
Does anyone know anything about the venture bass boats 18'
I had a tidecraft wildfire,150 merc…fast as hell….broke transom 3 times,split it from bow eye to plug once…my 1st real bass boat….worked on it as much as I fished in it….bought a new 1995 Champ 186,took trolling motor ,graphs,batteries,the Merc 150 and put it on the Champion….cut the tidecraft up with a chainsaw and put it in the dumpster
What are your thoughts on the other Storie brands like Hawk bass boats or Cobra/Viper?
So just curious does anybody know anything about swift bass boats. I can't hardly find anything on them
Completely agree about ProCraft. Fished 2 tournament seasons with a 2005 210 super pro. Very wet and unstable for me. If you came off plane too fast water would come up to the console!
Just bought a 1995 pro craft 180 B lol I hope its not this bad lol
What about the old Hydra sports
They we good back in their day
@@TeamMarineService I got a 92 x270 and it's a great little boat, only has 18 gallon tank though so that 150 drinks
Ive seen that bayliner Hahahaha!! It looks awful. However, I had a 95 Astro S-17B with a 120 Force motor. Used that thing for 4 years ALOT! Never had an issue with it. Maybe I sold it just in time.
I don't know much about the Winner Bass Boats, however the Winner Bay boats and sport boats, in my opinion are one of the best boats made behind the Grady White. Why do I say this? The Hull on them is indestructible, they do not have wood stringers and the transom has no wood in them. They are Rot free boats. The Hull itself is over 2 inches thick. I have a 1989 Winner Marathon 2050 and every dealer that has seen this boat has had nothing but great things to say about the design and durability of these boats. These hulls will not crack. This boat has been in my family since it was new, and we have seen 12 Ft swells in this thing. It has taken a beating. It was on a boat lift at my family's property and got a direct hit from Hurricane Ian where it's at in Southwest Florida. The boat lift is galvanized steel, and it broke in half, and 2 pilings broke in half as well.The boat had some minor scuffs on the hull and scratched decals. I took it to a repair shop they inspected it, touched up the gel coat and when they checked everything over and said, these are super strong boats with a solid hull and transom. Then I did more research on them, sure enough found out the US military used Winner Boats for decades because of the durability. But like I said I don't know much about the winner bass boats.
Winner bass boats are fine. Idk what he got into.
Yeah, but Bil Dance's blue and white Procraft sure was pretty, of course he never had to use the big motor...
Pro Craft was number 10 LMMFAO
YOu do realize that clun and Horton ran those boats for a long time. And if you’re hating on a procraft just hate on a nitro made by the same company bro! And they was nothing wrong with those old Cajun boats.
Hey we aren't Nitro fans either! ;)
Great Video ! Couldn't agree more but please keep in mind yes the Bayliner Bass Trophy was JUNK but the Trophy line is very vast leading into the larger Pilothouse models and yachts . I have a 1982 Bayliner 2270 Explorer built for Alaska and I love it . Orwin Edson was a smart man . Dumped the company off to Bruinswick in 1986 , he saw the jet skis coming to destroy his cheap hydroplane market , along with Bass Pro with their boats . So he stuck with the yacht market and gave away millions to charity . Check out the 1980's Before Bruinswick Bayliner Explorerers & Trophies that were built for Alaska . They're a whole different class of boats . Bayliner was the worlds largest recreational boat manufacteur . Today it's Bass Pro . Didn't they just buy Hatteras ? Great Company .
I have a Cajun mach vI and my buddy runs a Cajun brat both boats are from 1979 and still out getting it done. There bothe the sparkle blue also. Love these boats the Mach v1 should be talked about more