So - important to note as it apparently didn't come off clear in the video. The examples of mixed race children often take after their mother is a statement about the ones we have seen thus far in game (which may be subject to just straight up not wanting to make custom head models). It is NOT a hard rule. This came about in-part from this video being hard to keep a in-universe point of view when viewed by others. For a good summation of everything shown in game as well as statements from the developers - we highly recommend everyone check out MirkeMenagerie's blog here: mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/post/177360426969/hello-i-found-your-blog-from-a-forum-because ~Archivist Lanverlais
So that comment of they take after their mothers is universal rule of thumb of the natural world and for good reason. As human we don't have to really worry about this. From my few years of living next to a dog breeder, who had in the past breed different sized dogs in the past had told me that regarldless of the size the babies usually takes the body and most of the size from the mother. The reason is that the mother needs to give birth so regardless of the seed, the egg is the most relevant part of the equation. This in a fantasy game is silly to consider but I think is a grounding element that even most other fantasy media follows.
I thank you for this. I've been so conscious about that rule about interracial children inheriting their mother's traits, since I've wanted to HC my WoL's children also inheriting their father's traits more. It's good to know that it is not the hard rule.
I think the major reason why the child takes after their mothers race because the idea of one of the smaller women giving birth to a giant Roegadyn baby is horrifying
@@SemekiIzuio the Caesarian section was named after the son of Julius Caesar. And if you've read Shakespeare's "Scotish Play" (that is unlucky to say in a theater), you know that "McDuff was .... untimely ripped."
The whole plotline of the Studium deliveries for gatherers in Endwalker is about helping a Hyur assistant hook up with an Aura professor she's secretly in love with.
Hadn't done that one but a student npc commented that his friend would attend class early if a certain Professer Jinba would be teaching that day in the studium. Since there is only Mikoto Jinba and her twin sister who is exiled from Sharlayan. I am guessing the student is crushing on Mikoto herself. Too bad she wants Cid.
I just finished that quest line last week and oh my goodness I loved it so much. Having the warrior of light acting as a matchmaker/wingman is so wholesome and hilarious at the same time.
I’ve often said we never really heard or saw what Thancred lost when Y’shtola saved him with Flow the way she lost her sight. He seems to have lost his libido
I can thnk of several examples, the Lalafell girl from the CUL questline that is clearly lusting for the Miqote man, the recent couple from the BTN/MIN quests in Sharlayan, and apparently Tataru is VERY popular with the men no matter where she goes. She even had a Garlean soldier pining for her.
Don't forget Haurchefant... In Japanese he flirts with you, and he even slyly invites you to his private chambers. Don't matter what race you may, whether it be straight or gay, Japanese Haurchefant swings your way.
Little disappointed that there was no mention of the couple that brought this very topic to light for a lot of us: the treasure hunters from the Wanderer’s Palace quests. They specifically commented that they were outcasts more because of their crossing of racial lines than their same-sex attraction.
@@TheEorzeanArchives No worries! Just something I was looking for and didn't see. And in Pride Month, no less! *feigns fanning self* But seriously, love the content.
I always found that a bit ironic since iirc we meet way more interracial pairings across the game than same gender ones. In fact, those two are the only ones I can think of.
Given how many Interracial pairings and how few homosexual pairings we have in the game, and the impression I got that these two are a bit odd, I always wondered if that wasn't just them not understanding that others have a problem with their homosexuality rather than interraciality. It is so normal to them, it simply never occured to them that could possibly be a problem to others. A throwaway line that was intended to be funny by the questwriters. As there is no continuation that I know of we will likely never know.
@@ProfNekko She has a knack for picking up trouble, it's all thanks to the things she had learned from staying at the Ishgardian Inn, where she became more bold due to her prying nature.
My assumption is the mother/father rule only happens cross-race. Clans are still the same race so the typical RNG genetics occurs where dominant/recessive traits are happening.
So - the mother/father rule isn't really even a rule. It didn't come off as clearly as we had hoped that we were merely commenting on the well known examples that we have in game. A pinned comment has been added to make this more clear.
Now the question is: in his earlier years Thancred going for all the ladies....could this lead to a story line where a horde of little Thancreds of all shapes and sizes make their appearance?
Hasn't been long enough ingame. About 2 years if I'm not off the mark. Explanation below. Ameliance says in her Custom Deliveries intro that she's been sending the scions money for years. Plural. And we all know she was sending her money their way for her children's sake. Alphinaud joined in ARR and Alisae even later. That means even if she was speaking colloquially with a really conservative estimate, it's been close to two years. As for a liberal estimate, that's much harder to pin down.
There is a Roe male in the Gold Saucer with a male Hyur child (if I remember right.) to add to the possible adoptions or even the Mother is Hyur of some sort. We don't know, but I remember their speech bubbles popping up showing a family connection.
Yep, if you look in the section on adoptions there is a shot of him with the kid. The statements only imply that he is the father of the kid in some way sadly and not as to if he is the biological father.
I admit... when I first read this title I thought it was going to be a meme... but I actually really like the research you put into this. It is really neat to see someone so focused on the lore and its functions.
It's also interesting to note that in-universe it is postulated that Hyur and Elezen specifically share a common ancestor which would make crossbreeding between them more likely than with the other races.
@@Nightshadow12111 AFAIK it isn't really made clear how the races evolved. The existence of that remote village on a vulcanic island that farms grapes hints that atleast some of the spoken races even evolved during the Ancients time (I understood that the people that lived there are not Ancients themselves) and had societies that were largely independent from them (excluding the respective Azem that traveled around) By how the Ancients look it is easy to assume that they are the ancestors of Hyuran and Elezen but as for the others it is more debatable.
@@elecrom_9757 I've read that story again, there is no hints that it was populated by some other species. And Ancients didn't recognize player's race in Elpis, they are surprised to see a human with animal ears/tail/horns/scales, which means modern races (or somewhat similiar ancestor races) didn't exist during that time.
@@Nightshadow12111 there are definitely magic shenanigans involved too, if we are to believe the sundering happened just 12,000 years ago on the Source’s timeline. Lore says that many scholars believe Miqo’te are related to the house cat. Humans and cats in the real world share a common ancestor that lived approximately 80-90 MILLION years ago. 12,000 years ago, agriculture was just starting to become a common practice. The first written records are from 7,000 years ago, and the first civilization was about 5,000 years ago. Either there was magic involved in Eorzean evolution, or Hydealyn didn’t bother having the moon ship built until humans evolved to a significant point.
@@LaCeiba1924 Well, i guess the sundering WAS that magical speed up process. It couldn't happen after either, otherwise the races on shards most likely would evolve differently.
Hhaah that be interesting and drive hime that the flesh in which is born doesnt matter but the soul shard. Also i am biased, my first tribal completion wre kobolds and I was absolutely happy kobold was the center of ShB cure.
Graha is a mixed breed. There are lots of lala interspecies love quests. And during Stormblood if you talk to some of the NPCs in the ala migo part, you'll find there are roe/hyur halfbreeds.
As a male lalafell with a female Viera wife, I felt compelled to watch this video lol. I'm tallest possible lala, and I can still completely hide under her dress with room to spare. It is hilarious lol
How could you not? If you pay any attention to story it is heavily hinted in the main quest line as the examples in videos said. Along with other side quests.
this is such an interesting question. I always imagined that the child from cross-race stuff is kind of a grab bag of random traits. for example: I play a Highlander who, in his lore, I say that he has a Hrothgar parent and a Hyur parent. He's mostly Hyur in appearance, but a lot bigger (and hairier) than other hyurs. I'd give him a tail, too, but square enix won't let me have one
One thing that is noted in game is that Aurian children of mixed heritage appear to have fewer scales than usual for Au Ra. It comes up in side quests that unlock after completing Shisui of the Violet Tides. What was thought be a fairy tales able Hyur fisherman and Au Ra woman from Sui no Sado turns out to have some truth to it, with records of a child born with few scales on his skin.
hreasvelgr and shiva's story always makes me think of Terra from 6, i wonder if it would be possible for a sufficiently humanoid primal to produce a child with a mortal... maybe it's a story we'll see handled in the future, but i kind of doubt it since it seems like they're sort of done with primals as a recurring threat lol
Then there's also the mystery of pairs WITHOUT Hyur involved. I have a Miqo'te man with half-Auri children, and I roll with "Au Ra daughters with Miqo'te face markings", but still...
I would like to say for your video: As a Lalafell I greatly appreciate you actually speaking on the broad spectrum of all races and didn't exclude Lalafell/Dwarfs. I am greatly largely into lore and every time I find informative stuff like this I love brainstorming on the possibilities of Lala/All races mixed together I've been shut down even belittled for doing this because of the fandoms stance on Lalafell despite the devs making it clear of what they are as a race. This gives my writing and I'm pretty sure others like me hope to write more onto these theories and stories of mixed-up races. Clans including due to Teledji Adeledji was half Plainsfolk and Dunesfolk and yet he was was called the half blood prince, which if you think about it he may have been one of the people who dealt with discriminatory level kind of treatment due to this alone. Papalymo's a Plainsfolk but it's clear as day their names rings very much like a Dunesfolk name theirs many things I'd like them to elaborate on but unfortunately speculations and theories would be the only thing I could look back on or collect on the literature. Aside from that, I hope to look at more of your content in the future. You've won me over!
If we can't get Ivitican Moogles (final fantasy tatics) as a playable race, I'd love lopporits as one instead. They're both pretty much bunny lalafell at the end of the day.
@@WarriorKalia Yup. We also got to briefly visit there in ff14 so it's not beyond the realms of possibility; although like other raids, it could just be a reference and that's it. Still, it's one of the closest moogle races that have a humanoid appearance, can be any class and are still a beast race and yoshi P himself said he'd love a beast race to be playable in future (just a rumor). Although Ivitican Moogles are pretty much lalafell with viera ears and a moogle pom; which match the lopporits very well.
@@myhlosic It's probably the same race and I'm just spelling it wrong XD But to be more specific in case you want to check, I'm referring to the Final Fantasy Tatics Advanced race for GBA; which the first character you meet in the world is an Ivalician/Ivitician moogle. There is a similar but different race of moogle frin ff12 although I haven't played that game, however that version has a coloured nose and their pom hangs behind their head instead of infront.
There's also that one legend in the ruby princess questline of the Hyur fisherman curing the aura princess and they got married and have a nearly " scaleless" child
For the Viera, there is a tale within Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings about a sub-race called the Feol-Viera which came about through a Viera mother and Aegyl father. This resulted in a race with shorter heights, shorter ears, colored hair (compared to a typical Viera) and no Aegyl wings. I think someone similar would come about between a Viera and Hyur in XIV. In the FF-XII main game, there is a side-quest when you pair up a Viera with a Hume. So I think it's well within the probability within XIV. Hyur are a very genetically compatible race.
Maybe Garleans are some sort of super soldier failed experiment created by the Allagan Empire by mixing Highlander, Midlander and Elezen genes together, along with some sort of alchemical cocktail to maximize their full physical and mental potential by converting the ability to expel and manipulate their aether into a new energizing internal system that bolstered their physical and mental strength instead. And the Third Eye they have being a side effect of these experiment.
Or an experiment by the Ascians to make the perfect host body, since they themselves can manipulate aether wether the host can or can’t is inconsequential.
I think it's a case of the child born just being 50/50 of either parents races with maybe unique features like difference in skin tone, hair and eye color in most cases, and the million in a million chance being offspring with stronger mixed features like Hilda.
Brother Archon! I might offer an extra take on this 'traits of the mother' business. Might I turn your attention to none other than Detective Hildibrand, and his parents: Godbert (a Highlander), and Julyan (a Midlander). Now this is a more notable situation, as not just eyes and teeth change, but entire physiology. Hildibrand carries with him the vast majority of his father's traits, including his race, bearing the notion that the rule of the mother may apply exclusively in circumstances where races mix, and not clans.
Much of this actually made it into the lore for my main RP character. I play her as being a half-breed between Xaela and Miqo'te. For the most part she looks entirely Xaela(her mother), but she does have her father's eyes. Even the acceptance part helped with the writing. Her father doesn't accept her saying that it was a moment of weakness while he was a Tia, but his other children(my character's siblings) all accept her as their oldest sister.
Another example I'd bring up is the cute little Miqo'te girl that you meet in 5.3 who wants to be a WoL healer as she clearly shows traits of both Seeker of the Sun/Keeper of the Moon tribes. However, I will hold that until we see definitive proof of it in the game that many races may not be able to procreate with each other even if they SOMEHOW found a way to copulate despite their drastic differences. The genetic differences may simply be too great for it to happen very easily or at all which added to the difficulty accomplishing the later probably explains in a broad sense why it's not seen in the world.
i submit that reproduction in eorzea is less physical and more metaphysical. Not only are the denizens of eorzea stated to be aether based life forms further more it can be surmised that people with low aetherical density would struggle to produce the necessary aether to produce children who are alive with a soul. as is evident by the dragons needing breeding grounds rich in either to lay their clutches of eggs. being being of aether it could reasonably assumed that the aether would shape the body to their environment (the mothers womb) different races have different natural affinities to certain elements of aether especially so with the beast tribes.
first, I love the image thumbnail. Second, as for why a you would be asked this, I'd think it'd be a common enough question in a melting pot like Sharlayan. Kind of surprised they don't have the biggest examples of cross racial mixing, honestly. Edit: one thing I can't help but notice on the meta level, is that the 'takes after the mother' thing seems common in fantasy. Elder Scrolls and Pokemon for example also follow this trend, which sort of makes me wonder why? My primary theory is just that it sidesteps the question of "how would a woman of a tiny race have the child of a big race?"
Notice how every crossbreed we met is first in line, despite societies mixing fir generations. Im certain that mongrels only work in a way ligers - a mix between tiger and lion - do. Cross species relationship is not forbidden, yet You can "try" to mix two differens species and end with nothing in most cases; but if they are close enough genetically, one in ten thousand can produce an offspring. Mongrel like this will be rejected and most often infertile.
in a purely biological thinking, makes sense the body would default to the mother in terms of “base template” as she is the one carrying the child and the body wouldnt wanna risk popping out a Roe baby out of a lala mother. the child would be as big as she is if it took after the father….
when I used to breed competitive pokemon I would often wonder the same. My working theory is the egg in fertilization holds the blueprint for the mothers form/shape/frame. And the sperm inside it grants traits and characteristics that might show through the mothers form.
@@Raptor_Media_Group then why do mongrels with discerning features of both parents exist, and are so looked down upon? Remember, mixed heritage is docially unacceptable, not from appearance reasons.
@@JannetFenix Using Hilda as an example she has a Hyur frame for most of her body. Only things that are Elezen are her red eyes (fathers color) and pointed ears. As too why shes looked down on? Ishgard society is like that. Highborn mixing with lowborn is not well liked there. There's nothing inherently wrong with it. She holds up my theory perfectly well. Mothers form (hyur) with some characteristics from her father (eyes and ears)
So yes, it's clear that loporitts are the product of Viera and Lalafell. It's no wonder why my male Lalafell is actively fleeing from his viera wife, she wants to make new loporitts, not merely adopt them.
from 10:40 when you talked about how the clans of each race has the potential to share names across the board as such: F'lahminn is actually a Seeker of the Sun Miqo'te, but was given a Keeper of the Moon model. (Taken from the FFXIV Wiki) Appearance Although a Seeker of the Sun, F'lhaminn has an appearance of a Keeper of the Moon Miqo'te, with white hair and pink eyes. In an interview with Koji Fox, he says that it's possible that she is of mixed heritage.She wears a purple dress with gold trimmings and a pink skirt.
You forgot to add the padjali. I know they are rare but I would have liked to see more information in them amd cross breeding. Im glad you showed Gotsetsu! He emoted like Roes has the stature of a Roe but looked like a Hyur! I was dissapointed in the lack of information about him in that regard! Edit: lack of information in game i mean
When doing the black mage job quest lines, the conjurer guy has a thing for lali I can't remember names to well but it was like around the 60-65lv range
Dont know how or why this was in my recommended. But, I stayed for the whole thing. It's nice to have TH-cam recommend something I don't instantly hate and enjoy. Have a like
I was waiting so long for this! EDIT: Calling it now. Way way way in the past a hyr got together with a hrothgar as forbidden lovers. One of them of a higher standing the other one lower in their society. Then after thousands of years their story gets retold by their progeny and muddled by history and so whe have the Seekes of the Moon and Sun! Just joking of course.
So, I have a theory in the making. Garleans may not be from another star or shard. The only bit of evidence for this is that Thancrad lost his ability to use magic when passing through the etheric sea. I am assuming they may have been moved to escape a calamity on another star. But this is just speculation on my part.
Any race interbreeding with a Lalafell will likely grow to be taller than the average Lalafell but smaller than than the average race of the other parent. Probably more chubby, and rounder face if it's not a Highlander or Roegadyn. Like Bandobras Took, who was tall enough to ride a regular horse. Any race interbreeding with Roegadyn will likely be taller than the average for the other race, and have better muscle development and more pronounced jaws and maybe bigger noses. Likely also some odd color, but remember Keepers, Xaela and Duskwights can have "notn-hyuran" skin colors too. Any Race interbreeding with Hyurs probably look more like Hyurs but with lesser features of other races, such as shorter ears, shorter than the average, or maybe small fangs. Anyone interbreeding with a Miqo'te, Au Ra or Viera will likely have "lesser" features of the race. Smaller and shorter ears, tails, and odd skin or eye colors, shorter tails, etc. aHrothgar... is up to devate. Likely taller and hairier.
That thumbnail... 🤣 Maybe the reverse happened and that a couple of Lopporets wound up on Etheryis somehow and they evolved into the Lalafell and Viera depending on where they were at. xD
Huh. I got click baited thinking this would be more of a silly video. I’m pleasantly surprised to have found that it’s in fact an in character lore video. Well done!
Final Fantasy XII is your answer. In one of the side missions is about a hume (hyur) in love with a viera. At the end, the couple end together. Is wholsome. If you would like to know more about the viera culture I totally recommend FFXII.
I thought Arenvald also had an eye? It was just a source of shame so he tried to cut it out and that's why his hair covers his forehead and he has a face paint covering the area it would be. Maybe my brain made this up but I swear he has dialogue where he mentioned this when he talked about living in Ala Mhigo with his mom. Also I'm pretty sure Cirina has moved onto someone more... Fiery than Hien in recent years. Or perhaps they're just roommates.
I think it was Arenvald’s mother that tried to cut it out… As for Sadu/Cirina/Magnai, it’s left wonderfully ambiguous in canon 🥰 Open to any interpretation you wish. I’m still certain that Sadu is Magnai’s Moon (Enemies-to-lovers in the enemies stage), but he’s too fixated on his “a dancer in the morning mist” image of soulmate that he wants to realize it, so tries after Cirina and other women… And Sadu and Cirina can be read both ways :)
@@Tioko actually i think one of side stories canonizes that sadu is the naama lover magnai is looking for. Either theyre both too blinded to see it, she knows it but waits for him to realize, or shes just toying with him on purpose
@@JannetFenix Oh? Which one is that? “O Nhaama, where art thou?” doesn’t state it for certain, but really implies it. Sadu, as a Dotharl, probably doesn’t know or believe the whole Azim/Nhaama thing. And Magnai is indeed blinded by his own preconceptions. I’ve actually commissioned a fanfic where Magnai realizes. It’s still in the works, though.
Not sure if it is only in the german version of the game, since I don't see any mentions of it in the video or the comments, but I am pretty sure that Arenvald (that's his name? That Highlander dude with the blonde hair) also grew a third eye, which was cut out by his mother since she couldn't bear to see it. So there are at least two half-garlean Hyurs with that racial mark. I find it also interesting that apparently it is possible that those secondary racial traits from the father can appear at a later time than birth. But maybe that is also just a Garlean thing.
It's pretty interesting but a lot of this is based around how human biology and procreation occurs. While those of Etherys are visually similar in many ways, how their biology actually works could very well be completely alien. Meaning, it is very possible that there are a lot of people from mixed parentage, we just don't know that because maybe for the people of Etherys, children will default to one parents race or the other, perhaps only gaining traits from the father that are not so visible (like perhaps intelligence, or reflexes, maybe different degrees of strenght in the senses, immuno response or resiliance to diseases, etc). Hilda, and the few like her, could be the extreme outlier among mixed race children where traits from both parents are outwardly displayed. BTW, if the child does default to one parents race, it would almost certainly be the mothers, as the they would logically have to be able to bear the child in question. This would help explain the resistance to mixed race couples, because it would literally mean that mixed race couples would be hurting the proliferation of the dominant racial group.
I mean interspecies relationships and sexual activities clearly happen. Bloodshore has the cute courtesan Fate and she straight up bangs a Roegadyn male. You see alot of "inprisoned" maidens in sastasha meaning lalafel, miqo'te and hyur ladies are kept as slaves (perhaps even sexual) by the priates. Wich include hyur and Roegadyn. Limsa contain several maidens trying to woo a roegadyn or other individuals while themselves being hyur or miqo'te. One does not even need special quests or storylines to see this IS happening. Hell... heavensward show a hyur/elezen lady IN the MSQ. And not to forget... people like thancred clearly do not look at race when they date or bang a woman. So yeah. Its no realy surprise tbh
I would suppose a despotic yet curious dictator once forced the issue you address, and such records like all experiments of dubious intent were destroyed lest anyone proceed from them. Birth canal size also plays a part, many RL human mothers died unable to deliver due to that.
Actually a super fantastic video, the effort put into it shows! I'd really like an Everything You Want to Know about Voidsent! That could be really cool I feel.
So trust me it is on the list. In the meantime however - may I recommend the following video from one of our friends for the basics on the void/voidsent: th-cam.com/video/gEUQEGZZYic/w-d-xo.html You can follow that with a little bit of the heirarchy in our written article here: eorzeanarchives.com/2021/05/16/the-voidal-hierarchy/. We will eventually get a video out though! ~Archivist Lanverlais
I would love to see mixed race options for character creation. That would be fuckin' sweet. But then, I've always wanted mixed race options in character creation, for all sorts of games.
Has anyone done the SGE questline? At level 80 it is revealed in the final two 'Diary of a Sage' entries that the Sharlyan Elezen's wife was a Viera woman. It seems she was not born in Sharlyan as she has extensive knowledge of her tribal medicines etc. so perhaps she came to Sharlyan later in her life. The diary entry made no mention of them being shunned for their relationship, in fact they were both rather esteemed scientist-types. She did make mention of the age difference; even though Elezen have very long lifespans of around 120 years, Viera can be more than 3 times as long and remains youthful throughout. Other than that, it just seemed like a normal loving relationship - I'd love to know what their children would have looked like, although in the real world, two races so far removed from one another would likely be unable to have offspring... :(
My theory is the closer their features are to each other the more likely they can mix, like I can't imagine a Hyur and Hrothgar mixing successfully but a Hrothgar and Miqote can being they share cat like features? but who knows maybe Yoshi P. can expand on this in a FFXIV encyclopedia of the races or something P.S I read somewhere that the garlean 3rd eye give them superior spacial awareness
I think Hrothgar and Miqo'te can mix, which is an assumption I largely base off the Wind-up Mithra. Its description confirms that Miqo'te descend from a race called the Mithra, who judging from the appearance of the Wind-up Mithra are most likely a similarly beastial race as the Hrothgar. This might also make it possible that the Hrothgar and the Miqo'te share a common ancestor race (besides the Ancients).
Okay so I feel the need to jump in on this one. That's actually a meta joke reference to the older MMO FFXI where Mithra was the catgirl race. ~Archivist Lanverlais
@@TheEorzeanArchives That's probably true, but it's fun to speculate about. Besides, it's not the first time SE has made these kind of meta references only to make them canon later. We already know that the Miqo'te are not actually native to Eorzea, but that they migrated from Meracydia. And while we still know very little about Meracydia, from what we've gleaned so far the continent seems to be largely populated by non-humanoid tribal races. Sounds like a place where Mithra would fit right in.
1. Ur character is super cute TwT Elezen gang Elezen gang 2. The game is kinda inconsistent, on the one hand we have Thancred who used to flirt with everyone approsching him, then on the other we have the couple of the Wanderer's Palace that got booted out of their homes for being Miqo'te and Hyur in a long relationship. Maybe lighthearted fun is okay but dedicated life long relationships arent (since the parents want offspring or something)? (Or the parents were homophobic 👀 ) 3. I really hope we get more lore cuz I need it myself, since I HC my character to be half Duskwight half Keeper (the races with the least lore :^^^^) ) and there is so little info, even with all the interviews and threads and dialogue, (which btw all matched up with the info in this video yay!) I still had to make up so much on my own 😭😭 I want him to be really lore friendly ;-; 4. Banger vid friend, keep it up 🙏❤
I love how these lore videos try their damndest to remain in character and world without breaking the 4th wall too much Makes me wish we could have a Shoddycast style Storyteller series based on ffxiv lore
This is interesting cause i have my wol who is a viera/hrothgar mix and she mostly inherited viera traits with the exception of having a bunny tail and more sharper than usual teeth/canines to show her hrothgar side of the genes.
This is everything you could want from a ff 14 content maker! I LOVE the use of in game, in cannon, and IN lore information. It's VERY in character and I've waited for somebody to go this route for a long time!
I just prefer to think that it's technically possible, but ends up a lot like zebra mule. Therefore, my hyur can bang as many elezen boys as her heart desires without fear of-
where they probably had a distant similar ancestor but have since branched so much that yes, things fit together just fine for the most part but genetics don't like being messed with much
I wonder if use of fantasia is why we don't see so much trait mixing. And it would also explain why it's more often the mother's race. As the dad could change back after the r rated fun, with out any problems. But having the now pregnant mom do it might cause problems. So it's usually the dad using the stuff
So interesting thing on fantasia. This is what the devs have to say about it. "Fantasia works in a unique way. I can’t simply turn you into whoever you want, or people could get away with anything. Crime would be out of control. Even on Earth, people have the opportunity to change who they are - cut their hair, get a facelift, find a new career or a different spouse - but we often aren’t willing to make those drastic life changes. Fantasia gives you the courage to make the changes you’ve always wanted to make. Maybe you are Lalafell trapped in a Roegadyn’s body, it’s time to break out! And all you needed was that courage in a phial!" Aka - this is totally a game mechanic with no actual lore please stop asking XD. There are a few of THOSE topics with the devs. ~Archivist Lanverlais
So - important to note as it apparently didn't come off clear in the video. The examples of mixed race children often take after their mother is a statement about the ones we have seen thus far in game (which may be subject to just straight up not wanting to make custom head models). It is NOT a hard rule. This came about in-part from this video being hard to keep a in-universe point of view when viewed by others.
For a good summation of everything shown in game as well as statements from the developers - we highly recommend everyone check out MirkeMenagerie's blog here: mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/post/177360426969/hello-i-found-your-blog-from-a-forum-because
~Archivist Lanverlais
Man... I wish Ivalician Moogles were the diminutive race instead of Lalafell. They could've replaced the lazy stoner moogles too.
*an* in-universe
So that comment of they take after their mothers is universal rule of thumb of the natural world and for good reason. As human we don't have to really worry about this. From my few years of living next to a dog breeder, who had in the past breed different sized dogs in the past had told me that regarldless of the size the babies usually takes the body and most of the size from the mother. The reason is that the mother needs to give birth so regardless of the seed, the egg is the most relevant part of the equation. This in a fantasy game is silly to consider but I think is a grounding element that even most other fantasy media follows.
I thank you for this. I've been so conscious about that rule about interracial children inheriting their mother's traits, since I've wanted to HC my WoL's children also inheriting their father's traits more. It's good to know that it is not the hard rule.
I think the major reason why the child takes after their mothers race because the idea of one of the smaller women giving birth to a giant Roegadyn baby is horrifying
Thats horrifying. They dont even have advance technology for say a c section. Maybe garleans do but this is disturbing lol
would most definitely kill both mother and child
@@SemekiIzuio the Caesarian section was named after the son of Julius Caesar.
And if you've read Shakespeare's "Scotish Play" (that is unlucky to say in a theater), you know that "McDuff was .... untimely ripped."
Or a Lalafell mother giving birth to a baby that's taking after literally any other race 😅
@orphious885 why is it unlucky to say in a theater?
The whole plotline of the Studium deliveries for gatherers in Endwalker is about helping a Hyur assistant hook up with an Aura professor she's secretly in love with.
Hadn't done that one but a student npc commented that his friend would attend class early if a certain Professer Jinba would be teaching that day in the studium. Since there is only Mikoto Jinba and her twin sister who is exiled from Sharlayan. I am guessing the student is crushing on Mikoto herself. Too bad she wants Cid.
I loved that questline it was adorable
I did that one ONLY for the story XD was so cute
I just finished that quest line last week and oh my goodness I loved it so much. Having the warrior of light acting as a matchmaker/wingman is so wholesome and hilarious at the same time.
What do you mean “secretly”? She wasn’t doing a good job hiding it.
Thancred's rampant wooing of any every single lady until he settled down with Urianger
No truer words have been said
Thancred wears the Doc Martens in this relationship, surely
Asstroligist
@@davood123 Guybreaker
I’ve often said we never really heard or saw what Thancred lost when Y’shtola saved him with Flow the way she lost her sight. He seems to have lost his libido
I can thnk of several examples, the Lalafell girl from the CUL questline that is clearly lusting for the Miqote man, the recent couple from the BTN/MIN quests in Sharlayan, and apparently Tataru is VERY popular with the men no matter where she goes. She even had a Garlean soldier pining for her.
[SPOILER ALERT] Heck, even in other shards this happens. Let's not forget about Lamitt's crush on Ardbert.
Yshtola.
Idk if this is relevant, but also the two guys from Camp Bronze Lake.
Don't forget Haurchefant... In Japanese he flirts with you, and he even slyly invites you to his private chambers.
Don't matter what race you may, whether it be straight or gay, Japanese Haurchefant swings your way.
@@-DeScruff him and Zenos both.
Little disappointed that there was no mention of the couple that brought this very topic to light for a lot of us: the treasure hunters from the Wanderer’s Palace quests. They specifically commented that they were outcasts more because of their crossing of racial lines than their same-sex attraction.
Was looking for this comment lol Of all the couples to mention, I am pretty surprised they weren't mentioned!
Good mention! Sadly not everything fits in the script or in this case I just totally spaced.
@@TheEorzeanArchives No worries! Just something I was looking for and didn't see. And in Pride Month, no less! *feigns fanning self* But seriously, love the content.
I always found that a bit ironic since iirc we meet way more interracial pairings across the game than same gender ones. In fact, those two are the only ones I can think of.
Given how many Interracial pairings and how few homosexual pairings we have in the game, and the impression I got that these two are a bit odd, I always wondered if that wasn't just them not understanding that others have a problem with their homosexuality rather than interraciality. It is so normal to them, it simply never occured to them that could possibly be a problem to others.
A throwaway line that was intended to be funny by the questwriters. As there is no continuation that I know of we will likely never know.
Went that whole video without mentioning the legend of Roe pirate who kidnapped a Lala princess at her own wedding and had a child with her.
O.O"
That is a cursed image
WUT?!!! Bruh, almost made me spit water. That's an in-game lore? Never knew that.
@@kriscubero6778 yes and it’s in the sastasha dungeon lore
is...is she alive?
Yup. Even the Garlean soldier pining for Tataru…
🤢
oh i remember that lmaooo
to be fair a LOT of individuals seem to have interest in Tataru... She seems to get admirers wherever she goes
can't blame him tbh
@@ProfNekko
She has a knack for picking up trouble, it's all thanks to the things she had learned from staying at the Ishgardian Inn, where she became more bold due to her prying nature.
You fool. You've given roleplayers more power than you could possibly imagine.
My assumption is the mother/father rule only happens cross-race.
Clans are still the same race so the typical RNG genetics occurs where dominant/recessive traits are happening.
So - the mother/father rule isn't really even a rule. It didn't come off as clearly as we had hoped that we were merely commenting on the well known examples that we have in game. A pinned comment has been added to make this more clear.
Now the question is: in his earlier years Thancred going for all the ladies....could this lead to a story line where a horde of little Thancreds of all shapes and sizes make their appearance?
Hasn't been long enough ingame. About 2 years if I'm not off the mark. Explanation below.
Ameliance says in her Custom Deliveries intro that she's been sending the scions money for years. Plural. And we all know she was sending her money their way for her children's sake. Alphinaud joined in ARR and Alisae even later. That means even if she was speaking colloquially with a really conservative estimate, it's been close to two years. As for a liberal estimate, that's much harder to pin down.
All in the name of ~lust~ science
@@Preaplanes What off stuff before the events of ARR, surely our white haired friend has been chasing skirts longer than 2 years?
@@Nuinwing I doubt Ameliance considers Thancred one of her kids.
@@Preaplanes I meant that Thancred is 30+ years old, so he has had plenty of time for some carnal gymnastics, way before the events of the game.
There is a Roe male in the Gold Saucer with a male Hyur child (if I remember right.) to add to the possible adoptions or even the Mother is Hyur of some sort. We don't know, but I remember their speech bubbles popping up showing a family connection.
Yep, if you look in the section on adoptions there is a shot of him with the kid. The statements only imply that he is the father of the kid in some way sadly and not as to if he is the biological father.
I took that to be a blended family situation, myself.
I admit... when I first read this title I thought it was going to be a meme... but I actually really like the research you put into this. It is really neat to see someone so focused on the lore and its functions.
Thancred is married to Urianger and they adopted an entire moon of loporrits, this is the proof that all types of romance are possible.
It's also interesting to note that in-universe it is postulated that Hyur and Elezen specifically share a common ancestor which would make crossbreeding between them more likely than with the other races.
IIRC all humanoid races, including Miqo'te and Viera are descendants of sundered ancients. Not sure about Hrothgar tho.
@@Nightshadow12111 AFAIK it isn't really made clear how the races evolved.
The existence of that remote village on a vulcanic island that farms grapes hints that atleast some of the spoken races even evolved during the Ancients time (I understood that the people that lived there are not Ancients themselves) and had societies that were largely independent from them (excluding the respective Azem that traveled around)
By how the Ancients look it is easy to assume that they are the ancestors of Hyuran and Elezen but as for the others it is more debatable.
@@elecrom_9757 I've read that story again, there is no hints that it was populated by some other species. And Ancients didn't recognize player's race in Elpis, they are surprised to see a human with animal ears/tail/horns/scales, which means modern races (or somewhat similiar ancestor races) didn't exist during that time.
@@Nightshadow12111 there are definitely magic shenanigans involved too, if we are to believe the sundering happened just 12,000 years ago on the Source’s timeline. Lore says that many scholars believe Miqo’te are related to the house cat. Humans and cats in the real world share a common ancestor that lived approximately 80-90 MILLION years ago. 12,000 years ago, agriculture was just starting to become a common practice. The first written records are from 7,000 years ago, and the first civilization was about 5,000 years ago.
Either there was magic involved in Eorzean evolution, or Hydealyn didn’t bother having the moon ship built until humans evolved to a significant point.
@@LaCeiba1924 Well, i guess the sundering WAS that magical speed up process. It couldn't happen after either, otherwise the races on shards most likely would evolve differently.
I believe there was also a Roe and lalafell couple in bronze lake during one of the quests.
To be fair, there was also a Roe and Lalafell couple in Ul'dah until stormblood
Okay.
Eww.
I was mistaken it was one hell of a beefy Highlander hyur and a Lalafellan lass
@@destinyshand2049 i truly do hope you dont mean nanamo and raubahn
@@Mister_BIack Ew?
I hope we find out that on one of the remaining shards, one of our WoL selves is a kobold or something
With the WoL's natural charisma we'd make an exceptional namazu. We'd throw the most extravagent festival of all time, with 7777 guests!
@@vilyar122 I wish I could bend the masses to my will without ever saying a word, too
Moogle WoL :o
Hhaah that be interesting and drive hime that the flesh in which is born doesnt matter but the soul shard. Also i am biased, my first tribal completion wre kobolds and I was absolutely happy kobold was the center of ShB cure.
sylph WoL.....
IIRC, the 'favoring the mother' thing tends to be a feature that you see in animal breeding, too.
Graha is a mixed breed. There are lots of lala interspecies love quests. And during Stormblood if you talk to some of the NPCs in the ala migo part, you'll find there are roe/hyur halfbreeds.
As a male lalafell with a female Viera wife, I felt compelled to watch this video lol.
I'm tallest possible lala, and I can still completely hide under her dress with room to spare. It is hilarious lol
Viera are fricking Huge
Divorce immediately
living the dream
I love how you had to specify “female” Viera wife 💀
@mistercrisket7506 Yeah man~ Had to differentiate out of consideration for all my "male wife" enjoyers ♡
In limsa lominsa, there is an hyur who recites poetry to a miqo'te girl. i don't know if she's really into it, but clearly, the boy is in love 🙂
Never thought that cross-race relationships would be a thing, that you can spend time to think about Eorzea. Great work!
@Protostar Mirage yea but the difference is that "race" in this game means an actual different species with large differences from humans in general
How could you not? If you pay any attention to story it is heavily hinted in the main quest line as the examples in videos said. Along with other side quests.
this is such an interesting question. I always imagined that the child from cross-race stuff is kind of a grab bag of random traits. for example: I play a Highlander who, in his lore, I say that he has a Hrothgar parent and a Hyur parent. He's mostly Hyur in appearance, but a lot bigger (and hairier) than other hyurs. I'd give him a tail, too, but square enix won't let me have one
damn, these guys REALLY know their stuff, mans built like the Crystarium library
One thing that is noted in game is that Aurian children of mixed heritage appear to have fewer scales than usual for Au Ra. It comes up in side quests that unlock after completing Shisui of the Violet Tides. What was thought be a fairy tales able Hyur fisherman and Au Ra woman from Sui no Sado turns out to have some truth to it, with records of a child born with few scales on his skin.
hreasvelgr and shiva's story always makes me think of Terra from 6, i wonder if it would be possible for a sufficiently humanoid primal to produce a child with a mortal... maybe it's a story we'll see handled in the future, but i kind of doubt it since it seems like they're sort of done with primals as a recurring threat lol
Then there's also the mystery of pairs WITHOUT Hyur involved. I have a Miqo'te man with half-Auri children, and I roll with "Au Ra daughters with Miqo'te face markings", but still...
I have a Miqo'te woman with half-auri children and I just pretend they have mixed features such as auri horns with Miqo tails
I would like to say for your video:
As a Lalafell I greatly appreciate you actually speaking on the broad spectrum of all races and didn't exclude Lalafell/Dwarfs.
I am greatly largely into lore and every time I find informative stuff like this I love brainstorming on the possibilities of Lala/All races mixed together I've been shut down even belittled for doing this because of the fandoms stance on Lalafell despite the devs making it clear of what they are as a race. This gives my writing and I'm pretty sure others like me hope to write more onto these theories and stories of mixed-up races.
Clans including due to Teledji Adeledji was half Plainsfolk and Dunesfolk and yet he was was called the half blood prince, which if you think about it he may have been one of the people who dealt with discriminatory level kind of treatment due to this alone. Papalymo's a Plainsfolk but it's clear as day their names rings very much like a Dunesfolk name theirs many things I'd like them to elaborate on but unfortunately speculations and theories would be the only thing I could look back on or collect on the literature.
Aside from that, I hope to look at more of your content in the future. You've won me over!
If we can't get Ivitican Moogles (final fantasy tatics) as a playable race, I'd love lopporits as one instead.
They're both pretty much bunny lalafell at the end of the day.
I thought Tactics was based in Ivalice?
@@WarriorKalia Yup. We also got to briefly visit there in ff14 so it's not beyond the realms of possibility; although like other raids, it could just be a reference and that's it.
Still, it's one of the closest moogle races that have a humanoid appearance, can be any class and are still a beast race and yoshi P himself said he'd love a beast race to be playable in future (just a rumor).
Although Ivitican Moogles are pretty much lalafell with viera ears and a moogle pom; which match the lopporits very well.
@@WakoDoodle But dwarves are already playable...
@@WakoDoodle What's an Ivitician Moogle? I can only find Ivalician Moogles and I'm confused if they're the same because they match your description
@@myhlosic It's probably the same race and I'm just spelling it wrong XD
But to be more specific in case you want to check, I'm referring to the Final Fantasy Tatics Advanced race for GBA; which the first character you meet in the world is an Ivalician/Ivitician moogle.
There is a similar but different race of moogle frin ff12 although I haven't played that game, however that version has a coloured nose and their pom hangs behind their head instead of infront.
The Scholarly writing and delivery as well as the obvious research applied made this a joy to watch.
i would liked to see more mixed race characters, they are the most interesting and have some of the most tragic backrounds.
There's also that one legend in the ruby princess questline of the Hyur fisherman curing the aura princess and they got married and have a nearly " scaleless" child
For the Viera, there is a tale within Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings about a sub-race called the Feol-Viera which came about through a Viera mother and Aegyl father. This resulted in a race with shorter heights, shorter ears, colored hair (compared to a typical Viera) and no Aegyl wings.
I think someone similar would come about between a Viera and Hyur in XIV. In the FF-XII main game, there is a side-quest when you pair up a Viera with a Hume. So I think it's well within the probability within XIV. Hyur are a very genetically compatible race.
OK OK the 3:30 made me jump for a second I thought the raid started but I haven't launched the game LMAO
Maybe Garleans are some sort of super soldier failed experiment created by the Allagan Empire by mixing Highlander, Midlander and Elezen genes together, along with some sort of alchemical cocktail to maximize their full physical and mental potential by converting the ability to expel and manipulate their aether into a new energizing internal system that bolstered their physical and mental strength instead. And the Third Eye they have being a side effect of these experiment.
Or an experiment by the Ascians to make the perfect host body, since they themselves can manipulate aether wether the host can or can’t is inconsequential.
@@neitherlink6612
That's pretty much what was Emet was doing, cloning the late Emperor due to his compatibility.
I think it's a case of the child born just being 50/50 of either parents races with maybe unique features like difference in skin tone, hair and eye color in most cases, and the million in a million chance being offspring with stronger mixed features like Hilda.
Brother Archon! I might offer an extra take on this 'traits of the mother' business.
Might I turn your attention to none other than Detective Hildibrand, and his parents: Godbert (a Highlander), and Julyan (a Midlander). Now this is a more notable situation, as not just eyes and teeth change, but entire physiology. Hildibrand carries with him the vast majority of his father's traits, including his race, bearing the notion that the rule of the mother may apply exclusively in circumstances where races mix, and not clans.
Much of this actually made it into the lore for my main RP character. I play her as being a half-breed between Xaela and Miqo'te. For the most part she looks entirely Xaela(her mother), but she does have her father's eyes. Even the acceptance part helped with the writing. Her father doesn't accept her saying that it was a moment of weakness while he was a Tia, but his other children(my character's siblings) all accept her as their oldest sister.
I'm surprised he has other kids given he's a Tia lol
Magnai the Turbo Scrub, I feel at some point they have to help old boy get his Naama.
Another example I'd bring up is the cute little Miqo'te girl that you meet in 5.3 who wants to be a WoL healer as she clearly shows traits of both Seeker of the Sun/Keeper of the Moon tribes. However, I will hold that until we see definitive proof of it in the game that many races may not be able to procreate with each other even if they SOMEHOW found a way to copulate despite their drastic differences. The genetic differences may simply be too great for it to happen very easily or at all which added to the difficulty accomplishing the later probably explains in a broad sense why it's not seen in the world.
i submit that reproduction in eorzea is less physical and more metaphysical. Not only are the denizens of eorzea stated to be aether based life forms further more it can be surmised that people with low aetherical density would struggle to produce the necessary aether to produce children who are alive with a soul. as is evident by the dragons needing breeding grounds rich in either to lay their clutches of eggs. being being of aether it could reasonably assumed that the aether would shape the body to their environment (the mothers womb) different races have different natural affinities to certain elements of aether especially so with the beast tribes.
first, I love the image thumbnail. Second, as for why a you would be asked this, I'd think it'd be a common enough question in a melting pot like Sharlayan. Kind of surprised they don't have the biggest examples of cross racial mixing, honestly.
Edit: one thing I can't help but notice on the meta level, is that the 'takes after the mother' thing seems common in fantasy. Elder Scrolls and Pokemon for example also follow this trend, which sort of makes me wonder why? My primary theory is just that it sidesteps the question of "how would a woman of a tiny race have the child of a big race?"
Notice how every crossbreed we met is first in line, despite societies mixing fir generations. Im certain that mongrels only work in a way ligers - a mix between tiger and lion - do. Cross species relationship is not forbidden, yet You can "try" to mix two differens species and end with nothing in most cases; but if they are close enough genetically, one in ten thousand can produce an offspring. Mongrel like this will be rejected and most often infertile.
in a purely biological thinking, makes sense the body would default to the mother in terms of “base template” as she is the one carrying the child and the body wouldnt wanna risk popping out a Roe baby out of a lala mother. the child would be as big as she is if it took after the father….
when I used to breed competitive pokemon I would often wonder the same. My working theory is the egg in fertilization holds the blueprint for the mothers form/shape/frame. And the sperm inside it grants traits and characteristics that might show through the mothers form.
@@Raptor_Media_Group then why do mongrels with discerning features of both parents exist, and are so looked down upon? Remember, mixed heritage is docially unacceptable, not from appearance reasons.
@@JannetFenix Using Hilda as an example she has a Hyur frame for most of her body. Only things that are Elezen are her red eyes (fathers color) and pointed ears. As too why shes looked down on? Ishgard society is like that. Highborn mixing with lowborn is not well liked there.
There's nothing inherently wrong with it.
She holds up my theory perfectly well. Mothers form (hyur) with some characteristics from her father (eyes and ears)
This was...surpisingly wholesome and heartwarming for a video about videogame sex.
The quality of this is insane
I agree, Elio really outdid himself this time but shhhh don't tell him I said that.
~Archivist Lanverlais
So yes, it's clear that loporitts are the product of Viera and Lalafell. It's no wonder why my male Lalafell is actively fleeing from his viera wife, she wants to make new loporitts, not merely adopt them.
Lucky man fr fr
@@kaitohiroyuki122 Just imagine a big bushy moustached potato hiding amongst actual potatoes and staying very still from the very horny rabbit.
@@combinecommando001 Man...being bisexual is fun
from 10:40 when you talked about how the clans of each race has the potential to share names across the board as such:
F'lahminn is actually a Seeker of the Sun Miqo'te, but was given a Keeper of the Moon model. (Taken from the FFXIV Wiki)
Appearance
Although a Seeker of the Sun, F'lhaminn has an appearance of a Keeper of the Moon Miqo'te, with white hair and pink eyes. In an interview with Koji Fox, he says that it's possible that she is of mixed heritage.She wears a purple dress with gold trimmings and a pink skirt.
In making this video, I suppose one could call you......an Interspecies Reviewer 👈👈😎
😎👉👉
~Archivist Lanverlais
You forgot to add the padjali. I know they are rare but I would have liked to see more information in them amd cross breeding.
Im glad you showed Gotsetsu! He emoted like Roes has the stature of a Roe but looked like a Hyur! I was dissapointed in the lack of information about him in that regard!
Edit: lack of information in game i mean
Ooooh tell me more about that eloping couple in Idyllshire!
Thank you for answering the question many of us had but did not have the guts to ask ! Lol
Oh I randomly as it in chats all the time, and get called a degenerate.
I'M CURIOUS DANGIT
When doing the black mage job quest lines, the conjurer guy has a thing for lali I can't remember names to well but it was like around the 60-65lv range
The white mage miqo guy has a crush on the black mage lala lass
It's subjects like these that make Squenix devs drink to excess in karaoke bars.
Dont know how or why this was in my recommended. But, I stayed for the whole thing. It's nice to have TH-cam recommend something I don't instantly hate and enjoy.
Have a like
So hypothetically,
Lalafell Mom + Roegadyn Dad = Micro Roegadyn
Lalafell Dad + Roegadyn Mom = Giant Lalafell
microdyn
Gilafell
@@umbral2493 More like Gigafell
Tol-afell
More like: Roegadyn + Lalafell = Mashed Potato
I was waiting so long for this!
EDIT: Calling it now. Way way way in the past a hyr got together with a hrothgar as forbidden lovers. One of them of a higher standing the other one lower in their society. Then after thousands of years their story gets retold by their progeny and muddled by history and so whe have the Seekes of the Moon and Sun! Just joking of course.
So, I have a theory in the making. Garleans may not be from another star or shard. The only bit of evidence for this is that Thancrad lost his ability to use magic when passing through the etheric sea. I am assuming they may have been moved to escape a calamity on another star. But this is just speculation on my part.
I loved lyses immediate sidelining of Magnai's advance
Didn't even bat an eye
Any race interbreeding with a Lalafell will likely grow to be taller than the average Lalafell but smaller than than the average race of the other parent. Probably more chubby, and rounder face if it's not a Highlander or Roegadyn. Like Bandobras Took, who was tall enough to ride a regular horse.
Any race interbreeding with Roegadyn will likely be taller than the average for the other race, and have better muscle development and more pronounced jaws and maybe bigger noses. Likely also some odd color, but remember Keepers, Xaela and Duskwights can have "notn-hyuran" skin colors too.
Any Race interbreeding with Hyurs probably look more like Hyurs but with lesser features of other races, such as shorter ears, shorter than the average, or maybe small fangs.
Anyone interbreeding with a Miqo'te, Au Ra or Viera will likely have "lesser" features of the race. Smaller and shorter ears, tails, and odd skin or eye colors, shorter tails, etc.
aHrothgar... is up to devate. Likely taller and hairier.
Rielle (from the DRK story) is Elezen but also has dragon blood.
There's also the miqote chef and lalafell waitress in the culinary quests!
Finally! someone makes a good video about this topic tyvm goodwork!
I love the way these videos are put together, keep up the amazing work
Possibly the best yet. I mean it has ME in it. 😎
That thumbnail... 🤣
Maybe the reverse happened and that a couple of Lopporets wound up on Etheryis somehow and they evolved into the Lalafell and Viera depending on where they were at. xD
You know it's a good vid when you can imagen it being a TV special on Erozea TV
Wait Gogesu is Roe??? I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST BUFF GRANDPA?????
Yes he's like a third type of Roegadyn, I always wodner about his backstory and why he looks so much like Hyur but buff lol
@PrincessofKeys yep! eastern roe look more like oversized hyurs haha
This writing is so good wtf man. Why am I only just finding this channel?
So i wasn't the only one thinking it. ( this statement applies to so many things in this video. )
Huh.
I got click baited thinking this would be more of a silly video. I’m pleasantly surprised to have found that it’s in fact an in character lore video. Well done!
Informative, interesting and without a doubt hilarious! i love this so much ♥
Definitely got a sub from me!
This will be great for my interest in Male Hyur x Female Viera. For no particular reason of course.
Like a wholesome, loving relationship...
I'm in the same boat with you, thought I think it would be interesting since vieras can live over 200 years if I'm not mistaken
@@dawnwalkerwolf9655 Hell yeah! IIRC Viera can easily be 300 years old and still look young.
Final Fantasy XII is your answer. In one of the side missions is about a hume (hyur) in love with a viera. At the end, the couple end together. Is wholsome. If you would like to know more about the viera culture I totally recommend FFXII.
Love the gratuitous little sun dragging XD
First video I've seen from this channel, and I've subscribed. I love lore presented from an in-universe perspective!
I thought Arenvald also had an eye? It was just a source of shame so he tried to cut it out and that's why his hair covers his forehead and he has a face paint covering the area it would be. Maybe my brain made this up but I swear he has dialogue where he mentioned this when he talked about living in Ala Mhigo with his mom.
Also I'm pretty sure Cirina has moved onto someone more... Fiery than Hien in recent years. Or perhaps they're just roommates.
I think it was Arenvald’s mother that tried to cut it out…
As for Sadu/Cirina/Magnai, it’s left wonderfully ambiguous in canon 🥰 Open to any interpretation you wish.
I’m still certain that Sadu is Magnai’s Moon (Enemies-to-lovers in the enemies stage), but he’s too fixated on his “a dancer in the morning mist” image of soulmate that he wants to realize it, so tries after Cirina and other women…
And Sadu and Cirina can be read both ways :)
From what I remember she was kind of losing it and cut his head because she thought he was growing the eye but I don't think he actually has one.
@@Tioko actually i think one of side stories canonizes that sadu is the naama lover magnai is looking for. Either theyre both too blinded to see it, she knows it but waits for him to realize, or shes just toying with him on purpose
@@JannetFenix Oh? Which one is that? “O Nhaama, where art thou?” doesn’t state it for certain, but really implies it.
Sadu, as a Dotharl, probably doesn’t know or believe the whole Azim/Nhaama thing. And Magnai is indeed blinded by his own preconceptions.
I’ve actually commissioned a fanfic where Magnai realizes. It’s still in the works, though.
@@Tioko let me know! Wanna read it ^^
Not sure if it is only in the german version of the game, since I don't see any mentions of it in the video or the comments, but I am pretty sure that Arenvald (that's his name? That Highlander dude with the blonde hair) also grew a third eye, which was cut out by his mother since she couldn't bear to see it. So there are at least two half-garlean Hyurs with that racial mark.
I find it also interesting that apparently it is possible that those secondary racial traits from the father can appear at a later time than birth. But maybe that is also just a Garlean thing.
What a well put together video. Good job!!!
We all know why we are curious about this. The scions as well as those that help them are very diverse 😆
It's pretty interesting but a lot of this is based around how human biology and procreation occurs. While those of Etherys are visually similar in many ways, how their biology actually works could very well be completely alien.
Meaning, it is very possible that there are a lot of people from mixed parentage, we just don't know that because maybe for the people of Etherys, children will default to one parents race or the other, perhaps only gaining traits from the father that are not so visible (like perhaps intelligence, or reflexes, maybe different degrees of strenght in the senses, immuno response or resiliance to diseases, etc).
Hilda, and the few like her, could be the extreme outlier among mixed race children where traits from both parents are outwardly displayed.
BTW, if the child does default to one parents race, it would almost certainly be the mothers, as the they would logically have to be able to bear the child in question. This would help explain the resistance to mixed race couples, because it would literally mean that mixed race couples would be hurting the proliferation of the dominant racial group.
I mean interspecies relationships and sexual activities clearly happen.
Bloodshore has the cute courtesan Fate and she straight up bangs a Roegadyn male. You see alot of "inprisoned" maidens in sastasha meaning lalafel, miqo'te and hyur ladies are kept as slaves (perhaps even sexual) by the priates. Wich include hyur and Roegadyn.
Limsa contain several maidens trying to woo a roegadyn or other individuals while themselves being hyur or miqo'te.
One does not even need special quests or storylines to see this IS happening.
Hell... heavensward show a hyur/elezen lady IN the MSQ. And not to forget... people like thancred clearly do not look at race when they date or bang a woman. So yeah. Its no realy surprise tbh
This is certainly a HQ video! Well made, entertaining and informative. Fantastic job!
I would suppose a despotic yet curious dictator once forced the issue you address, and such records like all experiments of dubious intent were destroyed lest anyone proceed from them. Birth canal size also plays a part, many RL human mothers died unable to deliver due to that.
Thankyou for exposing the panicky muscle memory i have tied to unexpected duty finder quepop sounds
SAME SAME
Please do not ask Archon Yoshida if there are Male Roegadyn and Girl Lalafell relationships, after so many refusals you think people would stop
what about Female Lalafell and Boy Roegadyn
But I'm so curious how they'd do it.
@@CrossRoadsOfTime like normal people do, very slowly and gently a t first. There’s your answer, now stop digging!
Actually a super fantastic video, the effort put into it shows!
I'd really like an Everything You Want to Know about Voidsent! That could be really cool I feel.
So trust me it is on the list. In the meantime however - may I recommend the following video from one of our friends for the basics on the void/voidsent:
th-cam.com/video/gEUQEGZZYic/w-d-xo.html
You can follow that with a little bit of the heirarchy in our written article here: eorzeanarchives.com/2021/05/16/the-voidal-hierarchy/.
We will eventually get a video out though!
~Archivist Lanverlais
I would love to see mixed race options for character creation. That would be fuckin' sweet. But then, I've always wanted mixed race options in character creation, for all sorts of games.
Has anyone done the SGE questline? At level 80 it is revealed in the final two 'Diary of a Sage' entries that the Sharlyan Elezen's wife was a Viera woman. It seems she was not born in Sharlyan as she has extensive knowledge of her tribal medicines etc. so perhaps she came to Sharlyan later in her life.
The diary entry made no mention of them being shunned for their relationship, in fact they were both rather esteemed scientist-types. She did make mention of the age difference; even though Elezen have very long lifespans of around 120 years, Viera can be more than 3 times as long and remains youthful throughout. Other than that, it just seemed like a normal loving relationship - I'd love to know what their children would have looked like, although in the real world, two races so far removed from one another would likely be unable to have offspring... :(
Great video production quality, great subject as well. Subscribed!
Yes yes that's interesting all, but what was that about the migration patterns of Goobbue?
Would be cool if some of the 'additional character creation options' they plan to add do things like half-ear ears for Hyur and such.
My theory is the closer their features are to each other the more likely they can mix, like I can't imagine a Hyur and Hrothgar mixing successfully but a Hrothgar and Miqote can being they share cat like features? but who knows maybe Yoshi P. can expand on this in a FFXIV encyclopedia of the races or something
P.S I read somewhere that the garlean 3rd eye give them superior spacial awareness
I think Hrothgar and Miqo'te can mix, which is an assumption I largely base off the Wind-up Mithra. Its description confirms that Miqo'te descend from a race called the Mithra, who judging from the appearance of the Wind-up Mithra are most likely a similarly beastial race as the Hrothgar. This might also make it possible that the Hrothgar and the Miqo'te share a common ancestor race (besides the Ancients).
Okay so I feel the need to jump in on this one. That's actually a meta joke reference to the older MMO FFXI where Mithra was the catgirl race.
~Archivist Lanverlais
@@TheEorzeanArchives That's probably true, but it's fun to speculate about.
Besides, it's not the first time SE has made these kind of meta references only to make them canon later. We already know that the Miqo'te are not actually native to Eorzea, but that they migrated from Meracydia. And while we still know very little about Meracydia, from what we've gleaned so far the continent seems to be largely populated by non-humanoid tribal races. Sounds like a place where Mithra would fit right in.
1. Ur character is super cute TwT Elezen gang Elezen gang
2. The game is kinda inconsistent, on the one hand we have Thancred who used to flirt with everyone approsching him, then on the other we have the couple of the Wanderer's Palace that got booted out of their homes for being Miqo'te and Hyur in a long relationship. Maybe lighthearted fun is okay but dedicated life long relationships arent (since the parents want offspring or something)? (Or the parents were homophobic 👀 )
3. I really hope we get more lore cuz I need it myself, since I HC my character to be half Duskwight half Keeper (the races with the least lore :^^^^) ) and there is so little info, even with all the interviews and threads and dialogue, (which btw all matched up with the info in this video yay!) I still had to make up so much on my own 😭😭 I want him to be really lore friendly ;-;
4. Banger vid friend, keep it up 🙏❤
I love how these lore videos try their damndest to remain in character and world without breaking the 4th wall too much
Makes me wish we could have a Shoddycast style Storyteller series based on ffxiv lore
What a professional documentary! Bravo!
This is interesting cause i have my wol who is a viera/hrothgar mix and she mostly inherited viera traits with the exception of having a bunny tail and more sharper than usual teeth/canines to show her hrothgar side of the genes.
This is everything you could want from a ff 14 content maker! I LOVE the use of in game, in cannon, and IN lore information. It's VERY in character and I've waited for somebody to go this route for a long time!
I just prefer to think that it's technically possible, but ends up a lot like zebra mule. Therefore, my hyur can bang as many elezen boys as her heart desires without fear of-
where they probably had a distant similar ancestor but have since branched so much that yes, things fit together just fine for the most part but genetics don't like being messed with much
@A Snake have you SEEN Aymeric xD that boy is delicious
@@vilyar122 preach you, sister
Hey! That remark is very defamatory - we don't eat poor people, maybe a snake or two though.
~Archivist Lanverlais
@A Snake Not all Elezen!
...mostly just the Ishgardians, from the House of Lords.
So, I was doing Gubal with friends on discord, and we decided to take turns reading the books. That book was hilarious.
Thinking about that book about the researcher with feelings for a voidsent.
I wonder if use of fantasia is why we don't see so much trait mixing. And it would also explain why it's more often the mother's race. As the dad could change back after the r rated fun, with out any problems. But having the now pregnant mom do it might cause problems. So it's usually the dad using the stuff
So interesting thing on fantasia. This is what the devs have to say about it. "Fantasia works in a unique way. I can’t simply turn you into whoever you want, or people could get away with anything. Crime would be out of control. Even on Earth, people have the opportunity to change who they are - cut their hair, get a facelift, find a new career or a different spouse - but we often aren’t willing to make those drastic life changes. Fantasia gives you the courage to make the changes you’ve always wanted to make. Maybe you are Lalafell trapped in a Roegadyn’s body, it’s time to break out! And all you needed was that courage in a phial!"
Aka - this is totally a game mechanic with no actual lore please stop asking XD. There are a few of THOSE topics with the devs.
~Archivist Lanverlais
Video was interesting, entertaining, and far less cursed than I thought it was going to be when first I clicked on it.