1450bhp F1 BMW Turbo
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- The Don Mega of F1, the most powerful & raw, so good it had to be effectively banned by first draconian fuel restrictions, then finally boost limits. Same happened to the dominant Offy in the early mid 70's, same to Toyota in IMSA GTP, its a little known fact the 4 cyl turbo is so superior a concept that even Toyota was refused to run a modern day version of the Offy at Indianapolis 500 late last century. Such is the total domination and fear with rivals that even in the introduction of the new version of F1 turbo era Ferrari threatened to quit the sport if 4cyl turbos were adopted (pushed by BMW and others). Think about that next time you wonder how shit modern F1 sounds and why the cry babies all through history resort to the rule book and under the table bribes to stop the best from competing.....
Some technical stats compiled in here and just listen to it, the best ever!
Boat anchors need not apply!
Spoke with Stefan Johansen regarding the BMW powered F1 car he drove. He said the qualy engine was so vicious it would spin tires in all gears
Worse than that, it has a huge lag, you have to anticipate when the demon is released. N Pique said (if I do not mistake the F1 guy) that no one drove that at full potential, everybody did what he can. Especially in qual, for just one lap, with a car very different with hundreds of hp more than in race.
I tried those cars in simracing and what I can tell is they are annoying.
@@bestopinion9257 Berger was insane enough to actually really like the BMW Engine. Especially at quali boost
@@bestopinion9257 Gerhard berger did
@@sonicxdudex765 Did what?
@@TheNecromancer6666 he loved the Turbos in quali boost, the 1986 Benetton BMW was a crazy car, unfortunately not very reliable, otherwise Gerhard would have won several GPs in 86
350hp per cylinder. Just insane
hosepower Almost as cc
a 350 hp 1 cylinder BMW hypermotard would be sick.
Top fuel would like a word.....
Sure, dragsters dont corner for crap, but theres 8 of those 1450hp Benneton engines in 1 hemi V8 top fuel dragster engine...
Dragster engines are WAY Less reliable.. hahh!
350hp per cylinder aint no joke either.
Toluene and like what, 85+psi of boost on no digital boost controls?
Like just lagtity lag, whoosh Sutututut pop shift wahhhh whoosh....
😂 super dope either way.
@@threadtapwhisperer5136 Right, but how long do those drag engines have to last? A few seconds per round.
Its amazing how much power this engine put out when the V6 Renault was putting out a full 200hp less.
That engine in qualifing specs had the reputation of often exploding in a milion pieces. I love it but was streched quite a lot to its very limit.
My absolute all time favorite F1 engine ..!
an m10
imagine an interview for hamilton and piquet:
interviewer to ham: so, what car do you drive? i drive the best car in the grid, there’s so much tech..
piquet, calmly: satan. i drive satan.
Ofc Hamilton drives the best car,otherwise he will turn into a crybaby.
I'd like to see those two in an interview together, but for different reasons relating to a more recent controversy....
@@crusherbmx my comment didn’t age very well id say..
@@KitKitChanIsaac unfortunately, we have the proof of Sir Lewis running circles around the best karts in an inferior one when he was a kid, and then he goes on to take it to the defending world champion in his rookie season. Whether you like it or not, the best drivers are given the best cars.
@@gseric4721 By your logic Verstappen is the best driver in the best car.
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I hate the fact that the 4 cylinder community in bmw isn't as big as the 4 cylinder community as in Honda. The engines were bullet proof and we're very capable when they used this as the basis
Thank the N46/47 for that, if you've owned an E46 318i or an e90 320i you'd understand why
@@bzilla-d4i what’s wrong with them? I own an E90 320i and love the engine’s performance and response
My m44 e36 318 bullet proof I bought from guy that over heated it up every day have 3 gallons of water in the back seat did the head and valve cover and cleaned the water valleys block with solid film of rust (root problem because water couldn’t flow through at all),and she started ever since and never once over heated again.
BWM is also credited to making the most efficient 4 cylinder engine of all time. I have been a car enthusiast since I was 8. It took me 20 years to learn this, lol.
It was confirmed by former BMW employee that the blocks were left out in the weather, mud, snow, rain and wee,d on to "cure" the metallic structure...
My only wish is/was to see this car scream around the old Kyalami track in South Africa, especially screaming down the old straight.
1:49 Uff HELL YEAAAAH !!
Pretty sound of this L4 Benetton. Fantastic!
...thanks for mentioning the Offy...the best ever in my worth what you paid for it opinion...
...automotive history must thank Harry Miller...Leo Goossen...and Fred Offenhauser...for their fantastic contributions to motor sports and the technical development of the internal combustion engine...
Offy is had no head gasket so it was easier to make it live.
@@utube321piotr ...and the barrel crankcase...with ten fasteners per main bearing...8 of which were loaded in shear rather than in tension...
@@paradiseroad6405 needed all of that for oval speedway duty cycle
Offy was Peugeot engine from 1910s
These older cars really gave the drivers minimal protection in an accident
Paul Rosche was a wizard.
I think they used an old 4cyl block from the street cars (1500ccm)
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It would leave big black marks anywhere you wanted them in qualifying trim. The acceleration was so brutal in cars from this era that the drivers head was thrown forward and then slammed back against the pad on each up shift. It was the most brutal in cars with this engine. As I recall, in 83 BMW had special qualifying motors that did not run a head gasket, because they were running too much boost for it to survive. They sounded good when they fired them up in the pits in the AM. They were running as Megatron in the Arrows in 87. Zakspeed was running a version of this four with their own head. The Toleman Hart, which was Ayrton Senna’s first F1 ride, was also built on this block. Piquet took this engine to a World Championship with Brabham.
BMW had power (80s) and revs (2000s) records in F1.
I like the part list rundown in the beginning.
that was real racing these times!
This... this ~1500 hp quali trim 5.6 bars turbo (probably going near 6 in rare cases) f1 monster... running on "rocket" fuel full with ALL KINDS OF SHIT mixed into it... that is my car!
Real racers! Real drivers
Why do current V6 engines not sound as good as this inline 4? WHY AN INLINE 4 SOUNDS BETTER THAN A V6 !
Inline 4’s have always sounded good
MGU-H
Displacement likely, the 4 cylinder has roughly 375cc per cylinder, the V6 has 267cc per cylinder. Bigger displacement sounds deeper and usually more satisfying.
Aside from that, 6cyls are not known to sound that great. At most, it's just a distinctive sound.
high thermal efficiency and low carbon emission don't go too well with beautiful loud engine noises
The amount of on/off throttle needed out of turns is wild
*Pra mim o maior carro já criado junto do Mazda 787b* 👏👏👏🇧🇷❤️
Eu fico imaginando esse motor com a aerodinâmica de hoje, tal velocidade ia atingir
They used to supposedly piss on the blocks, and leave them outside to let the elements get to them. The theory was that it added strength to the engine blocks 😅
M-POWER, danke paul Rosche
Ruhe in Frieden
Also der Block war aus dem 315er BMW, gebraucht da spannungsfrei...
Business,very nice vid.
Benetton Sportsystem.
Baskerville Raceway Tasmania
The start up though, sounds like a 2 piston diesel tractor engine for a sec
You forgot to mention how these engine blocks were “seasoned.” Besides the BMW 2002 street car engine blocks being left outside in the rain to rust, the employees would literally piss on the blocks, in an effort to enhance the corrosive efforts on the metal, to create stronger blocks. This is one of the secrets BMW used to create an engine that would stand up to such a ludicrous output. I spoke to Nelson Piquet about driving the turbo’s, he said
“tachometer was useless. You stood on the gas, when your heart snapped forward from rev limiter, you shifted up. Your hand literally moved through the gears as fast as you could move.”
Incredible.
if memory serves...the quali engine had what they called "the hitler eprom" a chip that turned it up to eleven,but lasted for 5 minutes.literally.
Que bien suena la cafetera alemana ❤
Titanium con rods 🥶
does anyone know what the valve material just wondering if titanium can take the temperature and pressure or if you need to use a alloy like inconel
Tungsten carbide
@@p00piter wow thats impressive if they have gotten 11.5k rpm with such heavy valves
@@tlovsoe4211the guy above is probably joking. Tungsten carbide would not only be heavy and produce valve float at those rpm’s, it’s also brittle and could shatter under those loads. I think the valves were probably titanium, at least the intake ones, since they would be cooled by the fuel. The exhaust valves most probably were inconel, you can see on some photos how hot the exhaust gets, there was probably no other material suitable for that application back then. Basically, it’s like a tiny 4-cylinder top fuel dragster engine, although down tuned for reliability purposes.
Anywhere you could point me to for more info about Toyota trying to run 4 cyl turbo at Indy?
The gear ratio was insane too.
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Gerhard Bergers battle with Teo Fabi at the 1986 Austrian GP was epic. Gerhard was quicker than Fabi leading to over boosting his engine and grenading.
Nice track!
Not like today's crappy engine. This was a racing engine to put out power no matter the fuel miliage
You must be a young fella. There were plenty races of the turbo era that teams didn’t know if they would have fuel to finish. If they ran too quickly for the too many laps they’d run out of fuel. Races were like cat and mouse between teams. Filling tanks with freezing fuel to get as much in as possible.
Flying Tigers alright!
Legend!
Sera que tem tempos de pista daquela epoca que ainda não foram batidos? Pq os carros tinham quase dobro da potencia dos atuais.
😂jaja enserio crees eso? Jaja todos los tiempos fueron batidos. Y se siguen batiendo
Carros de hoje tem mt mais grip, são muito maiores, mais downforce, câmbios mt mais rápidos e mais marchas. Apesar desses motores serem cabulosos em potência, tinham câmbio convencional (no máximo dogbox, mas ainda H), eram ariscos e difíceis de botar a potência toda no chão. Sem falar do turbolag
@@davicola56 entendi
Aye, hold on a minute, a WHAT kind of turbocharger?
Pity that BMW wasn't into drag racing. A
316 with that M12 engine could have easily busted 8 sec.
Gods motor
Someday, I will buy this car…
How much horsepower today? To save the engine a little bit....
well, you can regulate the boost, turbo boost, therefore the HP from inside the car, i think
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Why does it have a Ku Klux Klan turbocharger? 0:03
Kühnle, Kopp & Kausc made the turbo
No forged crank? , this is very hard to believe imo
The BMW were the most vicious of that breed, they didn't have the drivablility of the V6's with that one big turbo. it was nothing, nothing, nothing and them BOOM, great gobs of acceleration and terror.
Would have been crazy seeing this engine with some sort of turbo lag system implementation. Yikes.
Does this engine have the diametric radial valve train?
The pitch is great but It’s not so scary like V8 or V10
It’s just the power that makes these engines so so insane
It’s not the sound, these engines were VIOLENT. Drivers merely tried to tame these cars. They were diabolical
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M POWER 🇩🇪 2:08
seems that some key info is missing to make sense of the power based on just the specs. was it a crazy high octane fuel? water injection?
Tuluene (paint thinner) for fuel and 70psi of boost pressure. (4.5bar)
5.6 maximum bars officially said, while secretly it ran in rare cases up to 6 probably, producing nearly 1500 hp. and it wasn't just toluene* into the fuel... there were way funkier thingies mixed
i know some of the cars in this genration have water spary bars for the intercoolers i am not sure if they ran subabient tempratures(ice or dry)
Was it true that they had to weld the head to the block in qualifying trim??
Can't weld aluminum to cast iron, so I doubt it.
最高～！！
Epic!
1450hp en clasificatoria
Después en carrera lo bajaban.
Lo mismo es para estas pruebas
Why the fuck does this I4 sound so good,but the modern ones sound like trash?
What track is this?
i'm wondering the samething. i'm guessing Tasmania based on the advertising
This Engine is More interesting Than the Hybrid Junk Peddled by F1 in 2024,It Was Made From a Production Car Block !!!,And Yet had More Power than Anything They Can Come up with Now,It Sounds Better and The Drivers New How to Use a Clutch and Manual Gear Shift Unlike the So Called F1 Drivers of 2024 Who Dont Know What a Gear stick is or a Clutch.
F1 Should be Very Ashamed of What They Have Done To What Was Once a Great Sport,But They Have Ruined it For the Greed of Money and Not The Sport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never thought that an extremely racist turbocharger would help this engine produce 350hp per cylinder
KKK turbocharger? WTF
Kuhnle, Kopp & Kausch.... old German name of the company now bought out and owned by Borg Warner..
Lol
You must be new.
@@stephenmanjai8319 Thanks for the explanation!
Well it's German.
BA dum tss.
Waren trotzdem
nicht schneller!
A KKK turbo charger you say, no wonder why they blew white smoke