How Loud Should You Master Your Music?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- How Loud Should You Master Your Music?
In this video I show you what settings to use on your limiter when mastering for the best results.
After my popular "How to Master Your Music in 5 Simple Steps" video with over 650,000 views I wanted to update the loudness specs.
Ceiling - Set at least -1.0dB True Peak. Potentially up to -2dB True Peak
Ensure you select "True Peak" - This is essential.
Average LUFS - Hit at least -14 to avoid spotify limiting and then push it louder to your own preferences.
Tools Used:
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This dude has the MOST professional way of saying "alotta tutorials don't know shit about what they're doing."
Yeah and then he gives you more wrong information. Like all the wannabes do.
@@joelybarish4618 whats wrong about what he said¿
@@airanmilian Just stay blissfully ignorant. This channel will help with that.
@@joelybarish4618 You still didn't answer his question and you look stupidly arrogant not gonna lie
@@kguymyguyfrydie9710 the only answer is to educate yourself from anyone who has genuine knowledge. Not some beginner who happens to have a decent camera and is somehow now an audio expert. Be smarter than that.
This video is almost 3 years old, and it's still super helpful for those of us stepping foot into the music industry. Good work!
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Yeah, he's good and a total brainiac.
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frfr this guy explains shit efficiently and thoroughly enough for my damaged brain to understand lamo
I died when he used “man to man” to emphasise his findings the loudness levels. 😂
Female producers: am i a joke to you?
I always appreciate how reassuring your tutorials are. The mention of you being stressed out back in the day as well, and how there's really nothing to worry about, does make the whole learning process feel a lot less daunting to me. Thank you man!
I consider myself to know a decent amount about music production but I still almost always learn something new from your videos. Also your mindset of not stressing about about things and not giving everything this weird artificial sense of urgency is refreshing.
literally just about to start mastering a song, perfect timing Micheal !
After watching countless videos on music production since exactly one year ago, I have come to the conclusion that you are the best teacher on the subject for me. Clear, calm, no bs. Thanks so much, you have taught me A LOT.
You've done a lot for the community. You've helped me to learn and understand so much about FL Studios and music in general. I appreciate you and will continue to support
Okay, Michael. Now I know what I'm really going to do with my track, all about mixing and mastering.
I think that you are a genius who knows what each knob does and not to just turn it up or down.
You are a real inspiration and whenever I'm watching your videos, I really think I paid for it and it's a real Masterclass.
Thank you for everything Mike
Finally somebody talked about this ✌🏼 i was looking for this video since I started to mix and master my own stuff. This really opens my eyes 🙏🏼 Thank you very much
I've read, watched, and practiced strategies behind "perceived loudness" on and off for 3 years, but something about the way you broke it down in this specific video made some major sense out of it all. Thank you!
Wow finally a clear insight into how to master for streaming services, I searched for so long. You're the best!
If it sucks, it sucks, no matter how loud 😆😂
Wise wise words
@@inthemix It sucks even more when you put 11.5 dB of limiting on it.
@@joelybarish4618 Ever used the master assistant during the mixing phase? Good way to scare the shit out of you and make you feel like you're doing everything wrong.
lol
I learned this the hard way lol.
"Loudness comes from mixing !" Thank you for the explanation, really helpful !
Good job bro. Very informative. I don't know much on mixing or mastering and I turn to your videos for guidance. Your methods will be my actual workflow so I appreciate you being so thorough.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us and making such useful videos ! You helped me progress a lot
I love how this video feels like a genuine guy is trying to help us achieve more in the world of music. That's why I subscribed a while back when you didn't even have 10k followers and the quality wasn't as good as now.
It's so authentic and you're giving great advices
Thank you so much ♥
Btw how are the comments not 100% freaking out about how awesome that song is? I went to comments to find it but no :'(
Thank you Jesse! The song hasn't been officially released yet, it's one that I made with David from The Workday Release
@@inthemix well its time to fackin post it, because i like it too
@@BADCOProductions it's now out on all platforms! "I don't think we can be friends" by The Workday Release
@@inthemix do you think by any chance you can show how you changed the vocals from the verse to chorus? song is great btw!
actually, first thought that crossed my mind once that "music" started off was... of course, you could not be expecting anything else than this modern pop crap from that dude whos about 20 years old.
nothing personal, he just doesnt know better. yet. he will grow up.
To be honest, after viewing quite a few instructional channels on music production, yours is one of the best ones by far that actually delivers educational content on the topic being addressed, always delivering accurate information, with no intent of advertising. It seems that a lot of youtube tutorials s often say to beginner producers to trust their ear on many aspects. It seems a bit incorrect as in the beginning you don't really have the ears to actually hear or understand what is that sound you're looking for, you build it up in time.
In your case, rather than giving ambiguous terms as 'trust your ear and feeling', you give very clear improvements that can be made, with no intent of inflating them to grand proportions or giving fake promises in the form of 'this one thing will make your music better'.
Thank you for bringing such genuine content into the world! :)
Oh my gosh. The comment you made about tonal loudness changed everything for me! Thank you for this video. Even though its on the older side the concepts described are so poignant.
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Yes, please make some tutorials about something you actually know about
I think you’re the only one in the scene who is able to explain such complex processes in a understandable way😳👌🏼
You’re videos gave me a deep understanding of what I’m actually doing when it comes to mixing and mastering!
Thank you for the great work❤️
i agree
agreed. almost all the others don't truly know how they know what they know and lack the ability to provide in depth articulation on the subjects they're covering but Michael certainly does.
This is the only other that I know of and I would say it is undoubtedly the bible , holy grail , messiah , etc etc.. of mixing. a bit long but it's the platform for the fundamentals of it all
th-cam.com/video/TEjOdqZFvhY/w-d-xo.html
The quality of your video is incredible. Keep up the good work, it's a pleasure to watch your vids everytime
Finally! Everything I needed to know in one short video. Well done and thanks!!
Oh my god. You explained how to perfectly master a track under an hour than what I learnt in a full class of music production.
Hats off mate! 🎩👌
thank you oh my, you have no idea how many times i've recommended producers make videos about mastering and they respond with "just play it by ear, you'll get better" and i'm thinking, "well, there is obviously a science to it and i realize it still comes down to personal preference but things such as loudness aren't really preference when it comes to professionalism and wanting to stay consistent between songs
Literally the first 3 minutes had everything I was looking for at the moment. You guys on TH-cam never fail to amaze me 💯
Thnx michael, every time i watch a new tutorial put by you it gives me inspiration.
This channel specializes in tutorials I didn't know I needed
Always giving amazing advice thank you bro 🔥🔥
you're welcome :)
Absolutely fantastic video! Very helpful and I will be using these techniques in every mastering session now! I used to turn it down to -0.3 for no reason other than hearing another producer say that and when you pointed it out it was clear you knew exactly what you were talking about. Thank you for sharing this important lesson with us for free!
Great INFO !
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Finally the video I was waiting since the premier of teamMBL... Love your tutorials
That premiere was brilliant. So fun to chat with all of you :)
@@inthemix I wanted to ask, I and my friend bought a 3.5mm jack condenser microphone so if I use an external usb soundcard will I get a fairly good sound quality
Mate, you're so good at explaining things. Your channel is a gold mine.
This is tne of the most acurate, helpful and easily digestible tutorials on youtube! Great stuff, thanks dude!
Tools Used:
Free Loudness Meter - bit.ly/youlean
Get 20% off for Youlean Loudness Meter 2 - PRO - Coupon Code: IN-THE-MIX
Free Loudness Penalty Analyzer - www.loudnesspenalty.com/
Thanks for Your Good Tutorials ....
God bless you dear brother.....
Good video! I found it interesting to hear the info on Spotify requirements as I would have just mastered like I normally would for CD. By the way, the reason that people say the peak limit should be -0.3 dB is because that is the best level for CD mastering. It gives you a safe level to ensure that there are no "overs" (inter-sample peaks over 0 dBFS) that your limiter doesn't catch, so there is no distortion when the DAW file is converted to a WAV.
During the height of the Loudness Wars (mid-2000s), people changed that to -0.1 dB because they wanted the level as hot as possible. The reason for -0.1 dB is exactly because of your example in the video, where you set the limiter to a True Peak value of -1 dB and the meter was still reading it as -0.9 dB, i.e. -0.1 dB different!
So, once again, thanks for the info on Spotify. It's interesting that streaming services do extra conversion of files and I will be adhering to their standards when using those platforms. Cheers!
great info!
I think new original cds and new vinyls have much awful distortion for example Taylor Swift Midnights who has very hard kick and bass and no high end!The same happens with some greek albums that reissued for first time in vinyl the last year, it has much distortion, very loud sound, and more lowend with hard kick and bass, that the original 90s cds.
i just love your channel so much, it improved my music production, 1000%
I really like your approach to music production. I have probably learned more from you than anywhere else because you keep it simple, stress free, and fun. Whenever I learn a bad habit or mindset from other videos, I put you on. It's like pressing the reset button... Thank you!
Thank you for this! You explained this topic very clearly and simply. Question though, "What about music that isn't being uploaded/streamed and just listened to as a raw file from a music player (eg. on a phone, laptop, etc.)"?
Thanks so much for giving a professional opinion about this stuff, there's next to no good tutorials on this
A lot of great information with this. I was looking for something like this. Thank you so much for sharing
Hey Michael. I love your channel bro, absolutely appreciate what you're doing for us newbies.
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Thanks dude!
@@inthemix Just finished watching. Great content always. I've learned a lot in 13 minutes hehe
Keep dropping that knowledge bro!
Great work.
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Bro I cant stand most TH-cam tutorials but yours are so easy to follow and the way you explain things makes it click in my brain every time. Thanks for all the help man!
Really really helpful. Exactly what I was looking for. Straight to the point and professional. Thank you!
Dubstep: * laughs in loudness *
11:50 this blew my mind!
That's what they call "open" sounding.
Wow, Michael, this video is amazing. Thank you so much for explaining this so succinctly - I learned so much. You rock!
Thank you so much for this video Michael. It really helped and clarified a lot 👍😊
hey michael. Do you recommend exporting a master track for each streaming service or exporting only one master track that fits most of the criteria? thanks a lot
If we could just get back to the standard loudness levels of CDs circa 1993, that'd be great. Modern mastering sounds like someone scratching plastic next to your eardrum.
the chronic album is a good reference
Thanks BRO! Great info! This helps me a lot. I have been trying to get this info for a long time. You put it out in an understandable manner. Big Up!
You’re the only tutor who explains these hard stuffs in a very understandable way!
Thanks for this.⚡️
what about TH-cam loudness limit ? in 2019
I searched on internet and i couldn't find ...
I've heard tell (though have not been able to confirm) that TH-cam normalizes to about -13 LUFS.
You can see what normalization TH-cam's done to a video by right-clicking on it and clicking "Stats for Nerds." The "Volume / Normalized" line shows the value of the volume slider vs. the actual volume the video is being played at, as well as the overall loudness of the audio. Aim for a "content loudness" of 0 dB.
Is it still true that TH-cam won't add volume to a track to make it louder but will limit its loudness?
Correct. TH-cam will make loud audio quieter, but will not make quiet audio louder.
Actually -0.1 and -0.3 came from Redbook CD standard, remember those? Thanks for some great tips :)
You're right! It's a shame people carry it over into the streaming world but hopefully we can help change this a little bit :)
@@inthemixabsolutely, One day our information will be outdated too so we best thrive now! Keep up the stellar work mate.
@@inthemixabsolutely, One day our information will be outdated too so we best thrive now! Keep up the stellar work mate.
Mhmm! It's a great thing to follow when working with CDs and basic computer storage, but when it comes to modern streaming services, the rules are switched up a bit.
@@dustinmalpass Its a massive ongoing argument. im working on a video right now, As there so so so much noise about mastering loud again.
Thank you for being so calming. Very articulate and smooth, great video.
This is by far the best video made on this topic that I’ve come across. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
“Man to man, you do not need to put your ceiling higher”
Did you hear about fl studio winning bed DAW?
Yeah it was amazing to see that, no big surprise though ;)
Nah. Reaper is the best.
Thanks man, after strolling around videos of the same topic I finally got one clear explanation of mastering loudness. thanks for debunking all the myth and biases
Thank you! This was probably the most useful mastering tutorial I've seen so far.
Just use AAMS.
they all work off average loudness ( integrated LUFs) so if you add a long and really QUIET outro it will bring down the overall average loudness value of your whole track... so they wont turn it down as much resulting in a louder track. I wouldnt aim for -14LUFs for club or edm music ... doesnt have the same energy and overall glue. Also distributors only use the 1 file to pump it out to all platforms so -14LUFS might be ok on spotify but not beatport... and i would do a separate master for soundcloud ..push it harder and boost the highs a tad more as you lose them from the conversion
good point
Indeed. Popular songs on Spotify are usually mastered around -8 LUFS. For others it really depends on the genre though.
@@YouleanSoftware I agree ...between -8 LUFS to -10LUFS integrated for club or edm ... has the energy ,loudness and punch.. I pushed it to -6LUFS and put that up on spotify temporarily and it sounded flat
@@N1K5TA Yes! You always must take in consideration other songs no matter what Spotify wants. :)
Excellent video. Probably the clearest explanation I've heard for how to handle this issue in these times. Thanks.
Thank you so much. This video actually made sense. I was mixing along while you went over this. I was able to get my levels sounding amazing! Got my penalty to 0 where as before it was 1.0 or more.
People start to know about LKFS/LUFS aka the end of the loudness war
Not yet -14 dB LUFS still 2 loud
Giulio Boobzilla I’m working on a project mastering right now, and I agreed, in France the new limitation for broadcasting is 23 LUFS, and for music I don’t feel confortable above -16 LUFS.
Flying Island
I think dat we also hav -23dB LUFS 4 broadcasting here in Germany.
-16 still sounds a lil squashed if U r mastering.
Dey should limit @ -18 average 4 songs worldwide.
@@giulioboobzilla Most pop songs are easily over -10db lufs, not -14.
GangstarapMadeMeDoIt
-10 may-b on CDs, but streaming services limit b-tween -16 & -13dB LUFS
So, my - 0,3 on limiter are wrong?
It depends on lots of issues, e.g. what's the highest short term true peak, what platforms are considered by you for releasing your tracks on, what format and quality are you going to save it as, how the whole mixing and mastering process was done and others, so it's hard to judge if it's wrong or not. I recommend you to extend your knowledge about music production so that you can manage to answer your question. Watch th-cam.com/video/h-QCQiOkufc/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/uQ57_VLPDAA/w-d-xo.html and maybe it can help you decide whether you master your tracks properly.
@Ertronic it's too small LUFS for typical EDM
Wow that’s great to know, thanks for sharing this knowledge I certainly watch out for this before uploading to TH-cam or Spotify, I certainly will learn this
You've come a long way! I've learnt a lot from you and Warren, keep making more! ; )
Don't make your mix too loud
Skrillex: -4 LUFs take that
That is the thing I don't understand ...
Riot :- Hold my -0.7 LUFS Integrated
Metallica's Death Magnetic: Hold My Beer
you look like Maurice West😂
Thanks Michael again for this wonderful video explanining a complex topic in your easy to understand manner and professionalism.
such a good tutorial! I have been stressing about uploading for ages, this explains everything thank you so much!!
*"IN. MY. OPINION. THIS. GLITCH. IS. WHAT. EVERYONE. USES. AM. I. RIGHT?"*
*"**P.ETHY.BAR**"*
*"WHAT. IS. THIS. SONG. USED. IN. THE. VIDEO?"*
*CERTIFICATED*
Fantastic video, as always, @In The Mix... Learned a lot and optimized my track for Spotify! Thanks.
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen on here so far regarding this “loud” battle while mastering.
One of the best videos in this channel. Thank you!
Great one. Always thought about how these things work in general with Music players. Didn't thought of asking it, thinking that it would be a dumb question. But you are amazing. I really appreciate your work. Thank you Mike :)
Thank you.. I was struggling with this for a long time .. now I think got something accurate I can base my approach on.
Always coming back to these vids when im messing around on fl studio, great stuff man
I love this guy. He takes it slow and explains things so simple. I actually feel like I learned something watch this.
Awesome video as ever Michael 😁 - always super informative insightful and helpful!
Finally! Answers! I have been anxious af about bounced tracks being so much quieter than everything else while it's blowing out the studio speakers, these tricks will help 🙏 you're a legend
man, i just love your videos. You're giving the best advices out there! :)
I used to check if my song is as loud as some of my favourite artists songs in soundcloud and ended up overcompressing my song. This was a great tutorial! Luv u
Thanks a lot for this video! I've been doing it for 10 years but your advices are extremely helpful!
Very well done. I've been doing this longer than you've been alive, and you have given great information in a concise presentation. However, remember loud is not everything. Our job is to entertain, making the experience pleasant is the first goal.
I love you bro thanks so mush I have never subscribed to any utube except yours the way you teach, explain, and breakdown, is magical u are the best man
So cool in your knowledge, your no nonsense information and your calming attitude. Much appreciated.
you always calm me, thanks again. Not missing any upload :)
thank you for sharing this one! really helpful for my releases
I can't thank you enough. Such useful information. Loved it and please do carry on this fantastic job. Thanks a lot again!
Your videos have helped me so much...Thank you! Very concise and well explained.
Thank you so much Micheal!! This is so useful!
I'm in love with you tutorials! Thank you so much!!
one of the best taught and most informative production channels on TH-cam
Thank you bro! I recently just made a status on FB about this very same issue lol, then boom! You show right up on my timeline. Def subbed.
great video on analysis as you go. thanks for these tips.