DA Michael Rourke Lied to You (Twice)
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- Was this courtroom used as a tool for justice or for a weapon of vengeance? Find out in Episode 1.2 of Chris Watts: Impossible.
The full script of this episode may be posted somewhere later. This series is a video manifestation of what's basically a book that I am writing.
I'm gonna have to walk back a point of criticism I made in this video. When he said, "We know our experts would tell us...", yes, this definitely isn't the same as saying, "Our experts told us", but he may have phrased it this way out of habit of avoiding hearsay objections. Furthermore, while this isn't an opening statement, it is similar to an opening statement and opening statements often make claims like, "Throughout this trial, this witness will tell us x," and, "Towards the end of this trial we expect that witness will tell us this." So while the criticism I made is certainly legitimate given the immediate context (a sentencing hearing with no expectation of a trial), an understanding of the greater context (where a DA would be accustomed to orating this type of narrative with the expectation of a trial to follow), it is reasonable to suspect this phraseology was made out of habit and not necessarily out of dishonesty or intent to deceive.
Agreed
Rourke reminds me of a seedy politician nothing more
I believe anadarko made a donation to his campaign
He didn't have time to do it all in-between texts and phone calls plus no steps climbed on his phone. He got sw clothing wrong he also got the children's nightwear wrong. He also said he used cece yanky blanket but the blanket was on the floor in the master bedroom during wellness check. I didn't see cw bring a blanket. He then told tammy he buried the blanket with sw but then said the blanket was still in his truck that day . Then he said the toys and blanket must of blown away. Doesn't sound like a person who was there imo .
Everytime I watch this DA talk it makes me sick. What a total BSing politician. He should be thrown out of office for all of this.
So many things in the case are weird and dont make sense, from the quick confession to the discovery docs missing A LOT, to NK...
Maybe NA was not so worried about SW's physical health that morning but her mental health, she may have feared SW was suicidal and the girls at risk.
Hence SW's mother telling NA to "check the knives"
Seriously? You guys think you know better than law enforcement, judge, DA, etc., And the idea of Shanann killing the girl’s was implanted in Chris by Tammy the CBI agent during the interrogation. Go watch his interrogation videos.
CW was convicted on a "theory". That is not justice. The DA needed to prove it and he did not and this is why this case is so intriguing to so many.
Uh..... Yeah well he did it for sure so.
yes exactly, there was no physical evidence against chris. he is guilty. guilty for what?🤷♂️ Mr. Rourke has it can't prove. only cw and nk know what really happened. imo
You wouldn't kill your family and then take them to your job site knowing all anadarko trucks have GPS and extra weight sensors. To make sure no one else rides in the truck so they can't use it for out of work hours as family transport.
No weight sensors. Proven. He took them there because of the gps. It’s the only place he could go. He made sure he was there alone, set it up so he would be.
So glad I found your channel! I'm enjoying your balanced, objective, fact based discussion. I keep following this because up until this case I had faith in our justice system. Mistakes may be made but they were mistakes. This is NOT the case here. I am waiting for all the CBI agents to be held accountable for their dishonesty and what I would hope would be illegal misrepresentation.
He’s making a lot of assumptions. So you think you know better than the DA, law enforcement, judge, and the family? The idea of Shanann killing the children were first implanted in Chris by the CBI agent Tammy. Chris even denied it at first until he was backed into a corner. That’s when he used that to first confess by blaming Shanann. This is common sense!
Give me a break
A diagnosis of dependent personality disorder for CW has been my opinion for years............Glad to hear someone else voice it.
I see on another video that you outline why CW doesn't meet all the requirements for a clinical diagnosis of DPD.............He was out of his depth (emotionally inadequate) with an extremely domineering wife and became a 'ticking time bomb'.......... The romantic relationship with NK, and the six weeks alone, was the spark he needed.................If he was psychologically evaluated in prison, the results haven't been made public...............He scored 140 on the IQ test they gave him in prison.
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Only Chris said he scored 140 on an IQ test, and his word doesn’t mean truth.
@@Girl-101 ............You're right!.........Thanks for your comment........He lies 5 times before breakfast.
@@brooksz.3143 His mechanics teacher from highschool and his coworkers dubbed him a mechanical genius..I feel that his IQ is that high..The coworkers also said that he could remember the location of every door, screw, pipe, etc., on a rig..To me, Chris was like a Savant
@@Girl-101 His mechanics teacher from highschool, and his coworkers dubbed him a mechanical genius...I feel that his IQ was that high
He would have walked and been called a hero of the roles were reversed. (Shanann killed him becos he killed the kids)
Rourke wanted everything to be tied up in a neat package he could present to the cameras. He short circuited the ongoing investigation - told his detectives to stand down.
Yes
I wasn't sure if it was Rourke's arrogance that bugged me about him....
I think arrogance had something to do with it....
He talks too much too soon.
There's something strange about the whole case.
His lawyers weren't very helpful at all.
With decent representation and a full trial the outcome might have been completely different, if all the facts had come out about what looks like medical abuse to the children and financial abuse of their dad.
I believe Shanann's family were very aware of this so went for the plea deal situation.
Is it normal for victims to make those decisions, because when my attackers went to court I was told about their plea deal but I had no choice in the matter.
THIS IS A GREAT VIDEO WE ARE DETECTIVE AND CHILDREN ADVOCATE WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT FROM THE BEGINNING
You know the discovery. Very impressed by your videos.
Your content is interesting. May I ask what drew you to this case?
wasn't it in the discovery that sw s mother had stated that they were to appear in family court in sept/18?...hmm why ?..had shanann been accused of abuse of her children?...as someone else stated while n.a was waiting for chris to arrive that morning shananns mom did mention at one point to check the knives..and I don't think she meant that because of chris.. and because n,a worked with shananns mom at the salon it was suspected that she previously asked n.a to keep an eye on shanann for some reason..this was way before the murders...its obvious the ruzek family were worried about those children beforehand...
this was also an election year.
I kind of wondered if SW was a mother who made/kept her kids sick. I’m sure people have explored that but I just watched a few videos again recently and that hit me like a brick wall how obvious it seems to me now.
This whole thing, sentencing, press conferences etc...are all for theatrical reasons. Made for TV case.
Looking forward to that book.
You are so smart. One day the truth will come out.
Wow, another great video. Thanks for bringing up the fact that he DID NOT terminate the pregnancy which resulted in her death. Never understood how he was charged with the unlawful termination of a pregnancy which resulted in her death.
I mean you know he did it just to please the press and the Ruzceks, but at the same time, it's just so ludicrously contrary to the law that you can't help but start forming opinions about this prosecutor (and about this judge, I suppose, who should have read the actual statute).
@@jordanhenshaw i agree. This case screams corruption.
@@jordanhenshaw Absolutely! I see so many people out here who are so afraid of conflict so they just "go with the flow" like he says. This entire case just screams corruption and cover up.
They charged him with any and everything they could and he was already told he had to agree to every charge they threw at him or they would put him to death
U make a lot of sense
😮 Thank you I have a couple of questions…. CW was arrested in Aug and up until his sentencing plea deal in Nov he would have had lawyers.. Why did it take a you tuber to scrutinise that video and find a shadow ? Do you not think that his lawyers and LE would have gone through that video with all of the technology at their disposal ?
Also at the sentencing family statements read out Frank Sn states to Chris that he had carried the bodies out of the house like trash suggesting that everyone was dead before he loaded the truck… I don’t believe that Frank actually wrote that statement because he reads it as though it is for the first time and it doesn’t flow so who wrote it and where did that information come from if we are to believe that the girls were still alive.
His lawyers certainly did a lot of work prior to him signing the plea deal. None of that work had a chance to reach the court or the public because of the plea deal.
I don’t think Frank Ruscek knows anything more about what happened that morning than anyone else. I’ve always thought that he wrote that speech himself. The forced and dramatic delivery is perfectly normal for someone without public speaking experience in that type of situation.
@@jordanhenshaw But why would he state that the bodies were all carried out of the house ? That indicates that the shadow couldn’t have been one of the girls as everyone thinks. Personally I think that Nate’s camera footage has been tampered with it has taken a couple of years to be picked up but everyone is claiming that it is one of the girls or in another film supposedly taken by Nate’s camera …NK. Yet earlier it only picked up NA reversing out of the drive with no footage of SW getting out and walking up to the door. Someone is deliberately hiding something ..and we are all over analysing minor details missing something important.
@@happybunny8704 bc they did see a video like that originally, they saw their "family members being carried out like trash" and then they saw the next video with the shadow, and the ones with multiple people in it as well as a female, both of which were made by LE bc in the morning when LE first responded Coonrod stated that there was only 3 or 4 minutes of camera footage and that CW loaded his truck with tools quickly and left. He stated there was nothing else of interest on those videos which was way different from the 45 min of footage LE later released like with the gas can and CW multiple outfit changes LE released AFTER they had nates camera password for nearly 48 hours.
@@thatlaserlady3899 Thank you 😀 that’s one I missed I’ve always thought that video had been tampered with makes sense …
How could the Judge not have heard about this Case ? That's Stupid! Doesn't he read the paper or have a cell phone or have any type of news how could he not know about the Watts Case? Aren't they allowed to watch TV or look at their Phones! Micheal Rourke is a Piece of Shit! I've been stuck on this for 4 years Shannon killed those girls and Chris killed her and her mother and father know what happened Crystal the blame cuz he didn't want to make her look bad he has the greatest Mom and Dad in the whole wide world Ronnie and Cindy and his sister Jamie they're all very close and what happened was Shannon was jealous due to the fact that he had close relationship with his mother and father and his family she ruined him ruined him ruined him how do you tell your husband you're not allowed to talk to your mom and dad that's f****** ridiculous I'm going to tell you right now she was a terrible human being I told my husband that he could not talk to his mother and father he would leave me we have no kids together we have no grandchildren involved but my ex-husband and I are the best of friends my first mother-in-law she's 84 in a nursing home right now and I go to visit her and it's been 20 years I still love her and she still loves me!
This is a lot to think about. For years I would have said Chris did it strictly because he confessed. It never sat well with me, violence wasn't and still isn't in his background. Shanann had all the makings of a Munchausen by proxy narcissistic mother. It's weird!! I can't imagine her killing her kids even now.
Wow! More slander against Shanann. So you think you know better than the DA, law enforcement, judge, and the family? The idea of Shanann killing the children were first implanted in Chris by the CBI agent Tammy. Chris even denied it at first until he was backed into a corner. That’s when he used that to first confess by blaming Shanann. This is common sense!
Because she didnt kill her kids, Chris did. Just because people claim shanann had Munchausen by proxy, it don't mean she killed her kids. People are spreading misinformation without providing PROOF as per for attention and money
This speech from Rourke has always rubbed me wrong....
Just too mean and too soon.
I think she was already losing nico . If your bleeding and cramping and ill why would you not get medical treatment. Why would you go on a thrive trip. She had one cosmetic 4d ultrasound. Hadn't seen a dr . Had an appointment on the 8th August but rescheduled for the 9th August then rescheduled again for the 13th August. And she told na that Monday was gunna suck. She didn't have the fees for primrose that morning which have to be paid that day . How was she going to explain to primrose that she had no money.
Thank you for this video! Your way of explaining everything makes it easy to understand!
I Agree Jordan. They screwed him Big Time. They Are Such LIARS!
She sent a text to someone saying she was in love with someone else but it would take drastic actions to be with this person. She told a hairdressers she was looking forward to being single again. Spoke to a lawyer about divorce and what happens regarding children. Then told a friend she was putting the house up for sale when she gets back from nc and start to sell things . She actually spoke to ann meadows before cw did. There was a court hearing to foreclosure on the house and a date to leave the property. 28th August. She had no downline and no friends on her fb she was stock piling products to try and keep her rank . She was now actually one of the 99% of mlmers who fail. How was she going to sell her luxury lifestyle in a small apartment or back at home. She had lost everything and cw . Her fake life was going to be exposed to the world 🌎
More than half of what you've written here is factually untrue. Please do some fact-checking.
They're whack jobs 😂
omg get real. all u victim haters. no proof to anything u r saying
@linseyanne5975, thank u. That person is another SW hater
DA Rourke Is Evil.
Seems like it
Most mothers I've read who killed their children it was smothering and drowning and strangulation or house fire 🔥 men a lot of times stab or shoot . He would never of got the death penalty anyway because you need a hell of a lot of evidence and they had none only his words and they don't put people to death on words . Because confession is not proof of guilt. Many reasons for confession and they are not going to give the death penalty and then it comes out the person was innocent. Da rouke knew the death penalty in colorado was going to be abolished anyway so he would of been doing exactly what he is doing now but cw didn't know this
Somthin to do with big $$$$$$$ my opinion to all of those involved cw was thrown under bus
43:30 needs a trigger warning 😢
Awwwww but I love the clip of how to fix them! Thank you for closing that loop for me 🤣
Da rouke said he put both hands round her neck but then said she had a finger mark and small bruise . She would have more than that if he used both hands
Da rouke only had a theory!!! Chris was not read his rights and law enforcement seemed to bulldoze what they wanted from him then add in co workers and the mistress then he never stood a chance. Are you going to do one on the mistress who had to have her daddy with her at her interview??????
I'm pretty sure he had been Mirandized. I did try to found out once, but it wasn't clear. I don't think they ever conduct interrogations before Miranda though because otherwise anything in the interrogation would be inadmissible.
If I was going to the police station to talk about my married lover killing his family when I was seeing him, then too fucking right I’d take someone to the police station with me whilst I spoke to them, I’d need the support too from
someone I trusted, I imagine that would be a hard thing to go through, just because NK appeared to not be that fussed about SW & the girls, then we don’t know how she was feeling on the inside, so people could be dying inside & you’d never know from their outward appearance, appearances can be deceptive, point & case of that is Chris Watts himself.
So you think you know better than the DA, law enforcement, autopsy examiner, judge, and the family? The idea of Shanann killing the children were first implanted in Chris by the CBI agent Tammy. Chris even denied it at first until he was backed into a corner. That’s when he used that to first confess by blaming Shanann. This is common sense!
Rourke really annoys me too. He's making Chris out to be sadistic. He wasn't. He was hiding evidence.
So you think you know better than the DA, law enforcement, judge, and the family? The idea of Shanann killing the children were first implanted in Chris by the CBI agent Tammy. Chris even denied it at first until he was backed into a corner. That’s when he used that to first confess by blaming Shanann. This is common sense!
@@HopefulInterventions Actually, the DA and everyone else didn't know much. They even stated they didn't know why he did it. They only had Chris's confession. We ALL know he isn't telling the entire truth.
Jeremy Lindstrom might be 20 years older than Chris possibly but he loved him like a son he kept calling him The Kid! Watch their interviews they suspect that it could have been murder suicide that Shannon killed the kids and I totally absolutely believe that exactly what they said I wish them the best of luck I hope they're okay I hope theirs are okay Amanda and Nick
When did the Lindstroms state that they thought it was murder suicide, I missed that bit?
@@Girl-101 I think it was the first time that the detectives interviewed the Lindstroms..I too heard Mrs. Lindstrom say that she wondered if SW committed suicide and did something to the girls
You could also hear the Lindstrom children in the background...If you Oogle Lindstrom interview, it may come up
Yes the wife said her worst case scenario was that Shannan had killed the girls and then herself, she said it never entered her mind that Chris watts carried this whole thing out…NEVER even considered that but did consider SW killed herself and girls
I remember nothing like that, and Jeremy Lindstrom isn't 53 years old.
@@linseyanne5975 Jeremy's wife absolutely said that is how she thought, SW and the girls died. .Also, Jeremy did in fact call Chris, "Kid"
Meant Chris Watts and his family were close! I think the whole problem started when Chris spent his $12,000 life savings to buy her an engagement and wedding ring set and Cindy said couldn't you have bought something a little bit cheaper but that's what Shannon wanted and I do understand why Cindy Watts was upset that was his life savings and he was 25 years old had a great job a wonderful father who was his best friend I would never in my life tell my children don't talk to your dad how selfish was that of her she alienated him absolutely on purpose such a selfish and human being they didn't even do anything wrong he missed his father but I think due to the fact that I do believe he has Asperger's he didn't understand he did what she said he loved her and he was afraid of losing her but it was doomed from the start and Cindy just tried to protect him because she had a funny feeling something was wrong! I love my daughter-in-law to the ends of the Earth she changed my son's life around gave me two beautiful grandkids they live about 2 hours away from me I visit like every 2 months and I'm so thankful for her they've been together for 11 years and they still hold hands and I'm amazed I would never ever not get along with her! I tell her thank you for loving my son I feel bad for Cindy Watts and and Ronnie and Jamie they got caught in a cycle of abuse I don't know what Shannon was thinking
Wow super Video tolle Arbeit.
I absolutely do believe she alienated him from his family for a reason it doesn't make any sense! My ex-husband and I have three children 27 29 and 34 if I ever in my life tried to tell him they're not allowed to see their grandparents that is the most horrible thing in the whole wide world! My kids thank me and their dad ! There is no way in hell that she would have been able to deal with custody arrangement or anything so like she said if he couldn't deal with that she would just remove them from their life and that's exactly what she said on that text message that's why I believe she did kill those girls to remove them from the grandparents life and he lost it flipped out and that was the end of it I have a grandson who is in the autism spectrum I do not believe that Chris Botts was on the autism spectrum he might have had Asperger's and my grandson is the calmest he's seven the calmest kid ever in the whole wide world but I do believe that Chris did have an issue but he was a good man a great dad it was a great husband until he couldn't take it anymore I do believe she was abusive she I don't know what happened to her and her life and what was wrong with her but something was severely wrong and I wish that her mother and father would acknowledge that because they know that there was something wrong with her she said that Chris's parents the Watts made her life miserable for 8 years you know Ronnie and Cindy are great people stable gave the kids everything up in the Spring lake many times cuz my daughter her husband was stationed in Fayetteville I do really believe that she was too much and they could not handle her and she did separate them and alienate him from them it's a God damn shame truthfully and if her parents would admit to the fact that no she was not perfect she had problems she had issues she was not a saint and don't make her out to be that way I believe Cindy watch tried her hardest and I believe Ronnie Watts was a wonderful man he really is they raise a good person a good son and she screwed up Shannon screwed up his mind
Totally agreed
Chris was scared of sw and her family
She had severe mental issues
I've heard some horrid behavior about Frank Jr years after the murders.
Disturbing and horrible stuff.
He and his dad, Frank, were a mess.
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I'm not liking Sandy much lately either.
She had a sinister side and laugh.
Besides, she and SW had a fight through this all as well.
SW's parents needed to address her behavior.
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I believe there was a conviction for child harm, the brother was convicted.
It wasn't talked about enough.
This is what DA's do, unfortunately. The prosection and the defensive will say ANYTHING they can get away with. One wants guilt and the other wants their client free.
absolutely correct- family unaliving - they take out themselves the pets and everyone. So many mistakes misrepresentation and so on
He blamed shanann when the FBI put it in his head, he even admitted he didn't think of blaming shanann till they planted it. He then admitted he killed them all.
When you say "admit", you're begging the question. He "claimed" he killed them all. He didn't admit he killed them all unless we all agree that was the truth of what occured. It's our job to determine which, if any, of the claims made in this case are based in fact. Using the word "admit" is cheating. Stop using it.
Because he did kill them.
@@johnhoward1939 no one knows who killed Bella and ce ce. That's the truth.
I heard today that the Police/Tammy got the truth from NK before she went back in.
This is why she suggested it to Chris.
To get a confession or to get to the truth.
@@jordanhenshaw your autistic, dude. He admitted to killing them and the evidence supports it.
Hello Jordan
About the strangulation issue, a certain method of a choke hold will knock a person out in seconds, it's common knowledge to the point where irresponsible people volunteer with like minded friends to experience what it's like to be knocked out this way , then wake up.
So Shanann could have been unconscious very fast, then as he continued the pressure finally her life would be over.
He's a big strong man large biceps, she being much smaller so his arm could easily kill her fast.
I'm so interested to see your videos about this case.
Only just discovered your channel last night, so will be eorking my way through the contents.
Thank you so much for exploring this case.
It does matter!! Everything matters
I like your ideas..........New subscriber here.💟
You don't see any bodies coming out the house plus he went in and out many times. Sw would not of fit in that footwell he doesn't pull her across either from the other side. She would not of slid in the back because when the pipes are removed it is not a flat surface she would of had marks plus the weight of her would of made that truck dip down with weight. No cadaver in the truck or basement. Jeff with his cadaver dog dexter said to officer lines I can say there hasn't been any dead bodies or body parts down here
It's not fair to be bossy and controlling and then be emotional and suicidal when you lose control of your spouse, I don't get it.
Thank you Jordan for your analysis. The thief hatches was barely 7-8 inches I highly doubt that the children
went down there without breaking bones, (not in the autopsy). Bella was almost 5 years old and a child's head is 20.50 inches at that age. CW says he suffocated the children with a blanket but in his interview in jail he says
he strangled them ,so wich is it ! .Strange he could be convicted of murder twice , thought you could only kill someone once.
I guess Rourke has his own rules made up as a DA .This case is so mishandled and messed up it is scary.
Great video!! 👍👍👍
Cw did not kill his children
Omg really
You don't know the facts
He planned it for weeks and he said so
Ugh you ppl make me sick
This case needed to go to trial!! Why he signed that confession makes no sense to me. Even though he would have gotten the same sentence! There’s so much we don’t know & will never know.
He was being tortured with solitary confinement and was being threatened with the death penalty. Anyone will “admit” to anything under those circumstances.
What motive would she have to murder her children?
Control/suicide brought on by extreme psychological disturbance caused by impending divorce, financial collapse, and destruction of public image (i.e., everything she cared about).
Fury.
He wanted a divorce, and Shanann was so domineering that she wasn't going to let him walk away possibly with the children.
Her history of what looks to me like medical abuse might have come up if he got a decent lawyer.
The façade of their "great" lifestyle was about to collapse into a second bankruptcy.
Everything was about to hit the fan.
He would walk away still with his job, but she would be shunned by the MLM for failing (look up people who've gone bankrupt through MLM activity and how all their MLM best friends ostracised them, it's how it works, and Shannon knew that), and her whole persona would be crushed.
I’m not sure where I stand on this. I never questioned he did it, even if some things didn’t line up. But I do agree that they dropped the ball by not continuing the investigation; there are so many false confessions- JonBennet Ramsey comes to mind!- you need to corroborate! In this case, things don’t add up to the point that the detectives flew out to interview him post conviction. They messed up big time. Some of the points presented here are very interesting to consider, even if I’m not completely ready to buy into this theory. I do agree that SW was abusive in more ways than one. And if genders were reversed, we would all believe that HE killed the kids, she killed him in revenge, and hail her a hero. She would be out with probation and time served, bcs it would look bad if they let her off scot free.
I despise le and attorneys and courts after having gone thru a dv situation and the treatment I received. They all lie to twist shit for their own end. On top of all the other betrayal I'd gone thru, it was utterly devastating to further be traumatized by the legal system/courts. It's been a long time ago and I still despise them all. I've never had any of them serve and protect me. quite the opposite.
I respect the lindstroms 100%. I feel that they told the honest God truth and Jeremy Lindstrom will tell you and say he loved that kid the kid meaning Chris Watts he would never in his life ever have fought that Chris Watts would have did this to his children his family the first reaction was to suspect Shannon they are wonderful people I hope they're okay Hope they've dealt with this I can't imagine I hope they're happy hope their lives aren't effed up but I'm sure they are but I do absolutely believe that the Lindstrom's told the Gods
honest truth what else reason would they have to say anything different they know what Shannon Watts was like they know how she was and they have defended Chris throughout this whole thing God I feel bad for them and the Thayers and Nicole Atkinson!
Fuck yes.
If this was a planned crime then why didn't he make space in the garage to pull his vehicle in under cover, as close to the the connecting door as possible, to make moving Shanann's body more easy.
Instead of going backwards and forwards on his driveway out in the open.
I don't think there was s grand plan.
AD pointed this out long ago.
His presentation style is unwatchable.
God is the AD still about?!
There should have been a trial n more investigating .if Chris didn't confess there would be more answers n less ?.it's all so sad n my heart can't conceive it
I never liked this prosecutor. Attention seeking, camera loving, shady.
Thank you!! I always believed Bella’s injury to her frenulum came from being put in the tank. I always wondered why they said it was from the other
You, sir, are an INTJ.
I used to get super deep into that stuff, but I think a lot of that is bs. The Jungian cognitive functions seem useful for labelling behavior, but the Meyer’s Briggs stuff doesn’t seem useful because these things are so capricious. So the judging v perceiving, those 4 dichotomies, they don’t seem useful. I mean introversion v extraversion is the only useful one, obv. I don’t think you’re either outwardly organized or inwardly organized. It varies over the course of years far too much.
We may never know is who killed who.
Now he is saying he never saw the bodies. Or pictures or autopsies
That story was the truth.
Agree
It was proven the girls were alive after Shannans death.
How so?
How?
I agree. He said himself he killed them at Cervi 19.
@@johnhoward1939 why do you believe confession 2 but not confession 1. His 2nd confession was self preservation he had nothing to loss by lying in Wisconsin but he did have everything to loss by not. They would have moved him to general population or back into Colorado prison.
47:06 When they want to conceal them.
In those cases they are buried on their own property or… in the trash.
@@jordanhenshaw In this instance, probably because of the two children, there had to be another plan than his own property or in the trash. I couldn't see him disposing the body of his wife in a different area to his kids. And to leave the body above ground in such an arid and open area where people must frequent from time to time doesn't make sense. Excuse me if I'm missing something, I haven't watched much on this case.
@@Ian24s He stopped by a big dumpster on his way to work that morning. He coulda put them in there. Didn’t have to dig a grave.
@@jordanhenshaw Fair enough. Why the oil tankers though? And separate ones. Seems worse than throwing them in trash. Not if his intentions were to hide them very well though..
@@Ian24s It probably looked like a good hiding spot. Why separate tanks? “The first opening was super hard to get through, maybe the other is bigger.”
For all of Shannan's faults and the DA's shadiness the one that is still alive is the killer. He told them where the bodies were.
True, he did tell them where to find the bodies.
I think he tried to hide them because he was effectively trained to hide Shanann's mistakes throughout all the years of their marriage.
He was afraid of her even though he was bigger and stronger, emotionally he was tiny.
After 6 weeks of wild freedom he had the courage to ask for a divorce.....then came that awful night and I believe Shannan did the unthinkable out of fury and last act to prove her dominance, also because they were about to go bankrupt again and her whole persona was going to be ripped apart. The MLM crowd famously dump anyone who goes under.
I believe she took the children's lives and that's when he snapped and attacked her.
He wanted to hide what she had done to the children forever, but was clumsy with her burial leaving bedding near the grave, because he wasn't covering up her mistake there. He had a different standard for hiding his own mistakes.
Plus he said he didn't want her near the children, which makes me think she did something terrible to them.
But this DA is a joke.
All I ever did was said to my daughter-in-law if my son treats you badly let me know and I will come beat his ass don't think I have to worry about that but it's a good thing positive happy joyful oh yeah
He later on told.the police he killed his family and not shanann.
You must have not watch this caae at all
Just stop. This man killed his whole family. This content disgusts me. SW did not kill her children. Chris stated he didn’t even think about saying this until Tammy mentioned it. It’s so obvious he just went with that. That is a quote from him. Just stop with this stuff already.
"This man killed his whole family." - False
"Chris stated he didn’t even think about saying this until Tammy mentioned it." - True
"It’s so obvious he just went with that." - False
"That is a quote from him." - True
"Just stop with this stuff already." - Negative
@@jordanhenshaw ya ok layperson with zero mental health or legal credentials. Ignore the facts and make up your own. Shame on you! He stated “I was thinking of killing my FAMILY for weeks” his FAMILY not SW. I go by discovery and facts of this case as everyone else should.
You’re spreading slander! Stop it people. Leave this case alone already if you can’t stop spreading misinformation.
#MARYGOFF HERE HUN
You seem way too angry with this case. Why?
You spoil your commentary by using the F word in temper. Not necessary.Otherwise good to listen to .
i actually appreciate the genuine candor..
I smiled and thought it was refreshing to hear his f word.
And I'm a Christian.
At least it was real.
I've not watched TV for two decades. I do watch true crime vids on TH-cam. I saw a few of the early coverage of this case in 2021, and what I recall is that Chris stated the girls ride to the tanks with their feet on shananns body and he suffocated them both out at the tank site. It's bizarre how they are now changing that story.
You know the discovery. Very impressed by your videos.
I’m not sure where I stand on this. I never questioned he did it, even if some things didn’t line up. But I do agree that they dropped the ball by not continuing the investigation; there are so many false confessions- JonBennet Ramsey comes to mind!- you need to corroborate! In this case, things don’t add up to the point that the detectives flew out to interview him post conviction. They messed up big time. Some of the points presented here are very interesting to consider, even if I’m not completely ready to buy into this theory. I do agree that SW was abusive in more ways than one. And if genders were reversed, we would all believe that HE killed the kids, she killed him in revenge, and hail her a hero. She would be out with probation and time served, bcs it would look bad if they let her off scot free.
You know the discovery. Very impressed by your videos.