ENGINE COWLING SEPARATES | Southwest B737 Emergency Return to Denver
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Thanks to this follower and his brother-in-law for the quick report and the footage, just minutes after they had landed. Passengers were told that it was a bird strike on takeoff, though it's not 100% confirmed.
This post and the description will be updated as further information releases.
Thank you Victor for sharing this! My bro-in-law was Johnny-on-the-spot sending me these pictures and his account this morning, I knew I had to get them over to you for a professional video! Thanks again!
@@Geoff160 Thanks for sharing and Victor thanks for all that you do. Your videos show the absolute professionalism of aircrews and controllers, which helps me to be less nervous when I fly.
Can YOU explain why they don't take RW26? The winds 260/16 Sounds perfect for that runway while on 34L there's a Sidewind component?!
26 is 12,000ft long, 34L is 16,000ft long. I heard somewhere that 34L is actually the longest commercial runway in the United States, which is neat if that's true.
Unless they struck a pterodactyl, I don't believe that for a second.
I'm an Airbus tech.
But if I dare to presume even the remotest bit of designing competence on Boeing's part, those cowls & cowl attach points are way too tight, secure and robust in nature, for _any_ bird strike to cause them to separate. Assuming the birds could even hit a part of the cowls that could make it happen.
As for the flaps up landing, the reason they did that is because on most of these Jets, you cannot have the flaps deployed with the cows out and open. They would collide and damage each other further.
They probably also don't want to risk any flapping or swinging debris from those cowls getting underneath the flaps. Which would be even worse.
Love how the pilot told the ATC what he wanted, what he expected, and took total control of the situation. ATC did a great job accommodating pilot.
Likewise. I get frustrated when ATC wants to be the “star”. This ATC was exceptional.
Great ATC. Accommodated the pilots, no fuss, no radio frequency changes (unless Victor edited those out) until they asked the pilot to switch over to the tower. ATC let the pilots fly the plane and focused on playing Moses and moving the sea of other planes out of the way to make room for the emergency.
Similarly, very impressive pilots as well. Professional, assertive, and staying/thinking ahead of the plane and the situation.
I'd fly with those pilots and ATC any day.
As the way emergencies work
The captain is always in charge while in the air.
Luckily it wasn't a 737 MAX or the bird would have incinerated the plane on impact.
100% absolute professionalism on this one.. kudos to the pilots and ATC on this.
This one really makes us gawkers and nervous flyers happy and comfortable. I want that crew and controller next time I fly, not sure about the maintenance team.
@@CheatOnlyDeath Exactly.. i'm so nervous about flying...
@ChrisFaulkner Yeah clips like this really help me a lot with that. The way the pilots are calm, cool and collected, taking the time to do the proper calculations and making sure everything is safe plus the controllers being super helpful and contacting operations to take some workload off the pilots.
I loved everything about this clip. Really helps put the ol mind at ease to know people like this are on both sides working together to get a good outcome.
@@fuhkerz Absolutely
The pre-flight - not so much.
this could be used in a class on exactly what to do on the part of ATC and the pilots. nice job SWA and TRACON.
Yes, except for engaging reverse thrust upon landing on one of the longest runways in the world. Which made the rest of the cowling disintegrate and spread FOD everywhere.
@@Republic3D Doesn't matter one bit. That runway was going to be inspected after landing with parts missing anyway.
@@Republic3D classic case of you knowing something the pilots did not, and the pilots knowing a heck of a lot of things that you don't. Besides, they 100% would have had to do a FOD check anyway before re-opening the runway.
Seemed like a master class in resource management!
I 100% agree.
Finally - the pilot didn't have to restate fuel in hours or pounds, OR repeat the call to the ATC! It's a miracle! 🎉
quiet Sunday, early morning. Not much else going on probably helped.
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Which engine does it matter, it’s only got 2
@@andrewstorm8240 Probably for fire crew and maintenance, so they can check the plane as quickly as possible.
Ultimate CRM on the Southwest Pilots and crew and the excellent communication with ATC and Captain and First Officer.
They both understand the situation and the exchange of information is fluid with no repetition.
Luckily it wasn't a 737 MAX or the bird would have incinerated the plane on impact.
@B3Band Yes the 737 Max has a checkered past when it comes to safety and reliability. I remember seeing quite a few 737 Max's just sitting in the Socal Logistics Airport in Victorville, CA " ICAO. KVCV" "ATA: VCV" FAA LID: VCV" with all the crashes and mechanical issues.
Victor you have outdone yourself on this one. Thanks to the viewer who submitted the video. It's amazing how fast this video is up 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Indeed. Thanks to them for sharing
Luckily it wasn't a 737 MAX or the bird would have incinerated the plane on impact.
@B3Band it was not a bird strike. Almost certainly, maintenance forgot to latch the fan cowlings. I feel real bad for that mechanic. He's about to go into a bunch of meetings and maybe lose his job.
They need as many mechanics as they can get. I hope that guy has a strong union.
“What’s our vector Victor”?
Pilots: Let's taxi of the runway to not impact ops.
Plane: (Sprinkles FOD on rollout)
Pilots: let’s not check engine nacelle cowling latches during preflight.
Once again, a testament to the redundancies engineered into aircraft's systems and structures, that allow the professionals in the air and the control towers to bring events like to a successful conclusion. And of course, the human systems and procedures pilots and ATC use to manage events like this. It's good to see all the system's layers working together to keep the Swiss cheese holes from lining up, and getting everyone (including two lap babies) back home safely.
Well done Pilots, ATC, and engineers!
Yes...airplanes are designed for "worst case" scenarios.
Luckily it wasn't a 737 MAX or the bird would have incinerated the plane on impact.
@@B3Band It wasn't funny the first 3 times you said it.
Yes. It was actually easy to create all the science, technology and create the best country government. Anyone could have done that. Now we can turn that over to the boys, girls and zi, x, pi kids to make it better than it ever was.
Excellent camera work by the passenger.
That's what I mean. Why can't Boeing install cams all over the plane? Pilots shouldn't get their news about structural damage from crew or passengers. They should have cams pointed at engines. These cams are common in cars. I have 4 cams on my junk car. 100 Million dollar plane has how many?
Yeah, time for them to go pro!
@@radiohead2206 I know some commercial planes have them, but at the end of the day it comes down to cost. Everything you install on a plane has to be certified and maintained. Adding a camera means adding wiring and either repurposing an existing screen or adding a whole new one to get the video feed. All for something that comes in handy once or twice in a pilots career. To be clear, I have the same opinion, I think they should have one camera at the top of the vertical stab looking down and one on either side looking back at the wings and the engines. They should also have a view of the landing gear. But it would be a much higher cost than you or I putting a backup camera on our car.
@@ryanvickery5491 Some planes definitely have the tail cam - the Qantas A380 at least has it and makes it available to passengers via the entertainment system. Very cool to watch your plane taxi around the airport looking exactly like a 3rd person camera in a video game. I can only assume the pilots can also pull up that view if needed (and I bet it's super helpful for situational awareness while on the ground).
Kudos to the pilot for recognizing that he needed to change to, and use the longest public runway in the United States ie 34L/16 given that he was conducting a no flap landing at a mile high altitude.
Only four other runways in the world are longer than 16R/34L.
I remember when I Last landed there, the pilot didn’t even need to use thrust reversers.
A great example of how CRM can include ATC as well.
I'm forever impressed with the vast majority of commercial pilots who keep their cool absolutely.
This is why I started listening to this channel. I'm a nervous flyer, but knowing that 99.5% of commercial pilots and ATC are super dedicated professionals makes me feel a lot safer.
It’s not a life and death scenario, and the sort of thing that gets done in the sim frequently, so handling this situation is pretty straightforward.
@@EdOeuna True and true... but nonetheless, how many of us would do as well? It's pretty straightforward to handle a skid on ice, for those who've driven in the northlands for years and who keep their cool, but... just look along the side of any road in winter.
That is a relatively minor emergency. Why would he not remain calm??
Let's do a runway sweep...
Clear of the runway or not, I really think that's a good idea...
...with actual brooms. =D That's a lot of FOD.
It was a 737, isn't that part of the standard procedure these days?
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Yep...
This is such a STELLAR example of teamwork between ATC and the pilots! ATC giving the pilots great alternatives, but also the cockpit crew considering them and taking them, at the same time the crew having nothing but safety in mind and therefore changing their approach plans. I love everything about this (And also the fact, that the flightdeck crew had both the timeand mind for this kind of due diligience. My German heart is doing somersaults right now ;) )
As a former firefighter I listen to the souls and fuel aboard on all of these. It never fails that ATC asks for fuel in time then later asks for fuel in pounds(or vice versa) so I love that this pilot gave both right off the bat so there was no question and no extra distractions.
This was such a good emergency to listen to on all parts(minus the missing ones 😬)
Pilot mentioning "ducks in a row" after a possible bird strike? 😂
The Panda Express at DEN has to get its "duck" from somewhere, you know... 😉
This wasn't a birdstrike. This is a result of ground personnel not securing the latches on the cowling.
@@ImpendingJokerHindsight - yes but at the time of take off they didn't know what it was, soooo....
I don't think the pilot was trying to make a pun, but it worked, sorta. Granted wasn't a bird strike after all.
@@ImpendingJoker do we know that for a fact yet (the cause)? It's a likely possibility, but not the only one.
Failing to latch the engine cowls closed didn't seem to be an issue in my 30 year career until 5 years ago. Now it's a regularity.
Damn everyone involved had their Wheatie’s, cause there was no extra wasted verbiage, just enough to get the plane down safely! One of the best pilot ATC emergency communication I’ve heard! Direct, Specific and to the Point!
I would love to see the full TRACON recording of this one and watch the controllers move everyone around, sounds like they had to reshuffle a couple times
That cowling just tour itself to shreds on the landing. Glad everyone was safe. Thanks for another great vid
Thank you for watching
When the thrust reversers deployed, that inside engine cowling lost its ability to remain in place from the new stresses placed on it from the newly-vectored thrust forces as well as the holding-resistance provided by the aft-cowling interface prior to activating reverse thrust.
@@jimw1615 I am not sure they actually engaged the reverse thrust. With damage around the engine cowling using reverse thrust could cause asymmetric thrust and cause the plane to swing, so it would be safer to use brakes only, though with a full plane the brakes would be hot, and I would have expected the pilots to ask for the ARFF crew to stand by and check them.
@@TDOBrandanothe way they were talking its unclear whether they knew it was cowling and not the flaps.
@@TDOBrandano Look closely at 7:40, the aft cowl slides back initiating the thrust reversers. That is when the engine begins losing both side cowls.
Approach controller did a great job. Didn’t pester the pilot, very efficient and professional. Denver has excellent controllers, I worked there years ago.
That fuel & souls call was one of the best I've ever heard. Amazing!
I laughed at the "two lap babies" - never realised they were called that!
I have listened to numerous ATC emergency calls. All souls on board are important but this one really made me feel the gravity of the situation for the crew when the pilot included “two babies on laps” in the souls on board report.
Hate to be that person, but this is one of the reasons babies shouldn't be on planes
I was on another flight waiting for takeoff when this happened so was able to watch SWA land safely. I listened to LiveATC on ground and heard the fire crews talking about inspecting the brakes with thermal goggles for overheating. Glad everybody was safe
You picked a fine time to leave me loose cowling!! Greetings from good old Germany 🇩🇪
Hi Germany!
@@jimtrack3786 , many thanks!
Germany is more country than much of the USA - John Denver at the Football stadium and now you checking in with some Kenny Rogers.
Pilots did a fantastic job. Easy to watch this knowing it ended well, but if you're up flying the plane and the people in the back are telling you that bits of your aircraft are falling off, it's all the more impressive to stay calm and make quality decisions.
Absolute perfection. Emergencies by nature are a break in routine. Both ATC and pilot seamlessly broke back into emergency procedure, got this plane landed safely. Nobody freaked out. This is where having policies/procedures in place, knowing those procedures and practicing comes into play. They both acted like they’d been there before. Awesome.
I dont know a whole lot about flying but that was just about the most professional ATC/Pilot exchamge i have ever heard.
Kudos all around.
Love how the pilots remained calm during this all. Awesome work. As a flight attendant these are the types of guys I would want to fly with in an emergency situation. Thankful all worked out well.
Excellent call by the pilots to land flaps up. It doesn’t look like the right flap ripped off as the crew reported to them, but if it had, deploying them could’ve created a potentially hazardous asymmetric lift situation as I imagine the aircraft computer would not have been able to detect a missing surface. Asymmetric lift was a causal factor in the crash of AA191 in 1979. A very smart decision with the information they had in hand. And ATC, wow. “We’re taking care of all of that for you guys.” Can’t think of more comforting words in an emergency!
Thank you … I can see people trying to pick that apart down the road but there’s no way to know what went wrong from the two seats up front during the situation. The crew seems to have systematically handled the potential risks in a calm and professional manner and ended up executing a successful course of action.
From the in-air photo, probably the FA's said it looked like something had gone bad w/ the flaps, because the cowling was basically wrapped around the front of the wing. It looks like by the time they were landing that bit of cowling was gone. But the pilots, as you say, couldn't take the risk that the flaps would be OK with the info they had.
The fact that they didn’t know what had happened shows a lack of understanding of the situation. They made a decision to land flap less based on zero knowledge of the situation. Every person on that aircraft has a HD camera on their phone. All it takes is one photo of the engine and the pilot will know what the problem is and that flaps and slats can be extended normally. They have made a strange situation difficult by their poor airmanship.
Oh. Just asked this question. I must have missed the damaged flaps call.
@@EdOeunaa flaps up landing is something they are trained for in emergencies and they will always run the numbers and ideally request the longest runway available before even attempting a landing.
Well done guys - You made great lemonade today. As a retired SWA guy - I am damn proud of your work.
Wow, this one was an exemplar handling from all involved!
Great communication by both the pilot and ATC.
The ATC guy was amazing so calm and flexible to the needs of the emergency. Great job!
Consider the effort done by the ATC personnel to rearrange the 100 odd inbound flights to Denver while this went on. 👏
Yes, there was a helluva lot of work happening there that wasn't captured. Other controllers, firefighters, the comm links that make it all work...
My definition of "infrastructure": The stuff that, when it's working, nobody even notices.
Oof! A flaps 0 26kt direct crosswind. HOT DOG! And nearly lost #2 with the reverse thrust throwing chunks of cowling into the engine. Holy moly. I love this channel.
And hey everyone, no need to clear the runway! They will ALWAYS FOD inspect a runway after an emergency landing. Just stop it on the runway, set the parking brake, flight attendant stations, and have the marshall inspect, "remain seated remain seated remain seated" and then follow to the gate. Amazing job done by everyone involved, except the mechanic and whoever did the walk around. 👀
This was mine same comment... why use reverse trust???
Why land flapless? Why land with a 20+ knot cross wind? Some strange decisions being made here.
@@EdOeuna flapless because of suspected damage to the flaps.
@@datamasked8632 - I couldn’t see any damage to the slats from the photo, just damage / missing engine cowling.
The pilots didn’t know the extent of the damage either, so they went off down a non-normal checklist that they didn’t need to go down because of a lack of information.
It makes a lot more sense to land with flaps 0 than it does to risk an asymmetric flaps condition that you can't retract the flaps again to fix. The latter will kill you dead. Just because there's no salt damage doesn't mean there's no flap damage. Even with a 26-knot direct crosswind, the course they chose was the lesser risk, and one they knew how and were trained to manage.
I hope they did a runway inspection afterwards. When I see stuff ripping off a plane, I remember Concorde.
Of course they do.
😑 "hey, we have metal bits falling off our plane" no shit they'll do an inspection
ouch yeah
I am curious about how it coordination of this was handled by tower/etc., so I'm listened to liveatc archive of DEN tower, they shut down the runway for a while and moved everywhere waiting to a different runway. Lots of delays as they also stopped departs for 15m+ while waiting for this to return to keep the runway empty for this arrival.
KDEN Tower 11 14:00 iirc if you want to listen (and be very appreciate of how VasAviation removes the silences.)
Isn't that part of standard procedures with a 737 landing these day?
I'm glad everyone is safe. This is such an excellent example of great CRM between crew and ATC. Not only did ATC give them options, the pilots didn't hesitate to ask for ATC to assist by calling the company on their behalf, as well as changing plans when they ran the numbers, realizing it wouldn't work. Great job, to all those involved!
Also, side note, this aircraft is 8yo. I only point that out 'cuz I've already seen so many blaming this on Boeing, on social media, and I don't think it necessarily is a Boeing issue, considering the age of the plane.
those cowls are opened and closed all the time , somebody probably did not latch it properly after doing maintence on the engine. I seen this happen a few times.
CNN has this as a lead story as of an hour ago. They have done the usual sensationalizing and of course ran the video of the cowling coming apart after landing, saying "Look how this is coming apart as they are getting ready to take off!" And of course they are emphasizing BOEING heavily on this story.
100% on swa maintenance.
Oh I bet airfield management had fun picking up after that. I miss that job. Fun being out on the airfield plane spotting while at work
"We're gonna roll off the runway and then stop so we aren't blocking anything. The trail of FOD behind us is a different story."
It's like an elegant dance when stuff works seamlessly between ATC and pilots.
It's impressive how professional everyone was. Beautiful to see
They could use this video for both ATC and pilot training, excellent job from everyone
I’m so proud of Southwest and ATC on this one!
Looks like a lot of FOD will be on that runway. Good job on the pilots!
Denver controllers are no slouches, some of the best in the nation. Kudos from Castle Rock, CO.
This should be used as a training video on CRM and communication. Damn good job by everyone. This is how you communicate effectively.
I would land in the moon with that controller......absolutely professional...great job!!
That doe NOT look like a bird strike on the middle of the engine, more like some ground crew did NOT get the cowl latched shut properly !!!!
Should also be checked during the pilot walkaround?
I agree, they were not latched. Similar incident happened here in the UK on both engines, however both engines were damaged. Many thanks VAS.
Wrong! I had a similar incident happen to me in a Learjet years ago, also flying out of Denver Centennial airport. Bird flew over the top of the inboard section of wing, but went UNDER the right engine cowling. The back of the bird "punched" the lower cowling panel causing the upper section to pop like a biscuit can. Alot of damage occurs when panels are struck by a big bird at 250 knots.
@@herkloader34 I cannot speak about the cowling latch placement on a LearJet. But I have decades of experience on B737’s. Your 6# duck will not open the cowlings if latched properly.
@@ianhart356 actually, the placement of the engines on the B737 would require JAFO or Capt. Jack to get on their hands and knees to properly inspect the latches on the cowls. I’ve never seen a pilot ever do that on a walk around.
What amazes me on all these emergency videos is how calm the pilot is. Calmer heads always prevail and running checklists instead of panicking. Class!
Pilots are trained to stay calm in an emergency. Usually, there is enough time to run the checklists and if there isn't, a set of critical memory items are part of the training.
Southwest again??? These engines need safety straps on the outside to contain failures just like Top Fuel dragsters! Excellent pilot performance. Great work as usual VAS !
One big hearty toast to pilots, ATC, crew, passengers- well done everyone.
"...in case you wanted to make a video..."
In case!?! 😂
Thank you photo-contributing follower, for this freshest of all content. 😊
Excellence. No other words needed. Pure excellence!
Watch out for all the FOD!
Call in the runway sweep!
Nicely done to de pilots.
Fly safe!
Otherwise another plane would eat the FOD, and leave behind FOD of their own for the plane behind them, in a never-ending cycle.
I am so proud of all of those professionals involved in this. Thanks for the safety of our system
That's the way ALL pilots and ATC should be. Awesome professionalism!!!!
This is so professionally done. Kudos to the crew and ATC. I fly the 737 and have done the the checklists for a flaps up landing are extensive. Great job.
From what I understand - the MCAS's fatal flaw can oonly kick in once flaps up? Of course, the odds of that happening EXACTLY when the aircraft is having another emergency failure are probably low, but OTOH some failures can increase the chance of other failures, ?
kudos to the brother-in-law and the wife of the subscriber, and the subscriber for sharing the vid
I spent 35 years in Air Traffic. Real professionals on both sides of the microphone here. Great example of a skilled, composed, and intuitive air traffic controller working with a first rate aircrew. Great job ATC!
And the hits just
keep on comin'!
Good job, Victor, et al!!
SUPERB JOB BY EVERYONE! ATC!!! SWA PILOTS.... THE BEST!!!
Bad ass job by the pilots. Great CRM & coordination by ATC. That’s amazing teamwork.
FYI, its been majorly windy here in Denver for the last two days with west winds gusting to the high 80s. 26 knot crosswind landing - nice.
Excellent example of professionalism by both parties here. Well done, gents.
Some of the best US comms on any recent video. Nice job to all involved👍
Absolute top notch professionals, both ATC and pilots! Well done.
Putting out a video a day after (or even day of) is impressive, well done!
The crew did a great job....
Great communication all around
Professionals doing what they're trained to do. Excellent cockpit resource management and ATC aircraft guidance and ground management.
I admire the professionalism.
I can't believe you got this posted so fast! Awesome 👍
You can never 'not believe' something from VASAviation
@@VASAviation Apparently! First the earthquake stuff now this 😂
What professionalism from both Flight crew and ATC.
Got this posted quickly and pretty accurately. Subscribed for that effort
Some of the best ATC pilot interaction I've heard. Great job to everyone involved.
The cowling skin detecting near the back of the engine doesn't seem to indicate an area where bird strike would occur. The access doors on both sides are peeling in landing. Perhaps they weren't latched?
I had the exact same thing happen in a Learjet years ago coming out of Denver Centennial at 2 am. Climbing out, felt a "thud", then vibration. Landed a few minutes later and noticed the cowling was popped off very similar to this. A bird struck underneath the cowling and the force of a bowling ball hitting it at 250 mph popped it upwards like a biscuit can. I still have photos of the damage and it clearly shows that it was hit, yet the shit company I worked for tried to blame it on latches being open, which we never messed with.
Cannot blame Boeing this time.
Great. Thank you for posting this.
Everyone was calm, collected and in charge. This is a perfect training video/procedure.
Someone is going to be in deep ___ for not making sure the cowl latches fastened correctly.
I heard they combed the runway after and I quote “we ain’t found shit”
I am always blown away by the professionalism of the pilots and ATC in situations like these. Huge shoutout to the follower too who submitted the video!
I'm surprised the Flight Attendants didn't know the difference between cowling and leading edge slats. If the pilot knew his cowling had blown off I wonder if he would have still chosen to use thrust reversers? The TR deployment caused the inboard cowling to blow off.
outstanding controller!
Wow. Everyone seemed to be so on top of their game, both ATC as well as the flight crew. The pilots clearly letting ATC know of their capabilities and limitations, ATC being calm and helpful, getting everything on the first read instead of further increasing the pilots' workload, eventually resulting in a safe landing.
Probably also a good call not to extend the slats/flaps due to the damage around the leading edge of the wing. I find it interesting though that they chose to use reverse thrust on the right engine. It probably was a weighing of risks of putting stress off the brakes on a high-speed high-weight landing (lowering the risks of bursting a tire, having a fire) vs. not wanting to further damage the engine cowling that is however already pretty much damaged anyway and not that essential of a part. I wonder if those were the issues they discussed in the flight deck.
Also a testiment to how robust today's aircraft are and how they can still get safely on the ground despite having received damage around its most sensitive area.
Professionalism at its finest both flight crew and ATC.
Wow that footage is nuts, thank you for sharing that. Communication with tower/pilot was excellent, not much to be said other than that.
Hope they are okay 👍
Kudos to the crew, calm and collected throughout. Extremely professional
What a perfect and professional handling of this by all parties involved!
Wow... Happened this morning, produced and stream this afternoon.
Great aviation teamwork as always.
Can't blame Boeing for this one at least.
Nice work by SWA pilots and contoller.
Well that runway needs a FOD inspection! Glad to see that everything worked out nice job by the crew and ATC.
Holy cow - glad everything turned out ok and I wasn't in that window seat. Good job pilot and ATC.
Holy cowling! 🙂
@@eco2geek. Lol! Yikes! 😳
Very nicely handled 🤓
We make the 737 fuselage in Wichita. This one is not on us folks. 😊
Mechanic forgot to latch the cowls
flew into witchita kiab recently to drop an aircraft off for the company . Saw Quite a few fuselage wrapped up . Good gig you guys got over there .
But, the MSM will still blame Boeing.....similar to the 737 pilot that drove off the taxiway into a mud hole.... a wheel falling off on takeoff.... It's all Boeing's fault.
@@justing42 Will still be blamed on Boeing naturally, because that's the kind of media environment we're in right now.
Most of that will buff right out. Great job crew!
Absolute PROFESSIONAL crew period!