Seabass Fishing in the Long Island sound with my dad (from kayaks)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- It was the weekend of the annual bluefish tournament of 2023 so we did go out with intention of looking for bluefish but really didn't waste time roaming around. Instead we hit up some deep boulders first and then trolled over to some shallower ones. We found black seabass at all depths on this trip. Although it was a grind on the kayak, there were some major highlights and surprises along the way, and we both had a great time out on the water!
My setup:
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Reel: daiwa KGLT2000D-XH • Daiwa Kage LT 2000D-XH...
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wow!!! Great double netter 2 monstas, Keep it up, looking forward to this Fall.
Thanks! yea that was pretty sweet, lol. Looking forward to fall as well!
Blessings from Jamaica
G'day mate. I've been watching you for a while from Australia so you're doing well. keep up the good work these vids make my nights worth!
that is awesome! thank you so much for telling me and sticking around all this time 😄
There is no better way to "Honor your father" than what you showing in this video. You are setting a great example for future generations. God Bless!
I appreciate the encouraging words Soly!
Local follower. CSH and Pt. Lookout. Great videos!
awesome to know, thanks!
Love the light tackle action
It really makes it so much fun. Im impressed my dad was using fully artificial, casting up current and jigging on his own with light tackle by the end of the day
I’m on the CT side of Long Island and I’m having the hardest time finding keeper sized sea bass from my outback. Good content.
thanks, it's almost more of a psychological game of where hasn't anyone else tried yet than anything else, that and a little luck with bait maybe - keep looking I think you'll find em!
Peter, a Seabass on a 3MPH? troll is a first for me. Never seen it. Nice to see the larger ones feeding vigorously if you are over the right spots. That usually doesn't happen for me until October. Not sure if you bleed your Seabass but the filets are amazing when done (I did a side-by-side comparison). It is better than filet mignon. Greetings from Gio, Western Long Island Sound.
Gio! Wasn't that crazy?! He wanted that spoon bad to be able to swim all the way near the surface and chase it at 3mph! I'm with ya, its typically not until October that the seabass really get going and yes I always bleed them. Bleeding makes a very big difference for all fish IMO.
killing it with seabass bro nice ones
thanks man 🤙
Another great trip. Love the videos with Pops, you guys have a blast out there together, and a double limit of Sea Bass, awesome.
thanks Matt, it really was a great time out there on this one
Good fishing outing with your Dad! Enjoy these days.
Thanks Will, it really was a great time 🙏
You cannot ask more than that, hunting sea bass with Dad
agree completely!
Awesome double up. Also, Awesome stuff fishing with ur dad. . The memories we live for. Tight lines!
Thanks! lol those are the best moments when your doubled up out there on good fish. tight lines 🤙🤙
L I M I T is a limit ! ! !
Hi Peter, Another highly productive fishing trip with your dad. I really enjoyed it. Thank you!
at 23:30 how do you determine according to traditional sonar view whether the bottom is a big boulder or some steep slope?
Thanks, I guess it can be hard to tell the difference with traditional sonar only. And it depends on how fast your moving what you see on the sonar but almost always when your moving quick enough you will see the hard red return up off the bottom and a sharp gap from that to the bottom. I think I've been wrong in the past where what I though was a boulder was actually wreckage of some kind but this area in particular is mostly sandy and there really isn't much contour, I know its boulder because I have put down my underwater camera on them
@@PeterRanieriII LOL, An underwater camera is the ultimate tool to find boulder. Good to know that.
7:45.....
They CAN see it or feel it. I have caught trout on black lures in pitch black no moon midnight conditions. IDK how. But they can.
I'm with ya Francus 100% they definitely can see in the super dark water. My best guess is that they can see with very little light and all they really focus on is the silhouette the prey makes. kind of like a darker grey object on a lighter grey background
Mr Sea bass
mr sea bass
They have an air bag inside right on spine above stomach
Oh yeah your right now that I think about it when I gut them. Is that what pushes out their stomach? I def want to learn the best way to help them get back to the btm
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Fish swim bladder venting is the term.
Pete, it seems that the sea bass are becoming more abundant for some reason. I had 6 keepers up to 22 inches on saturday and 3 yesterday up to 21 inches, all about 3-4 miles east of where you were fishing in this video.
dang Miles nicely done once again! Do you think its a recent thing that the seabass are plentiful out here? It almost seems like theres schools of them that moves around out here
are you working that shoal ledge or the shallower boulders?
@@PeterRanieriII before this week I was only finding about 2 keepers each time i went out and they were on nothing shallower than 115 foot boulders. They seem to have come in schools recently but are super spotty. Saturday we had 1 keeper at 115 ft and another keeper come off about 15 feet from the surface, then nothing. Moved to a 70ft boulder and had 5 keepers with multiple come off halfway up. Yesterday we couldnt even sniff a bite in 115ft, and someone was on the boulder i had fished previously and he had at least 2 keepers when i asked how he was doing. I tried a bunch of structure near that spot in about 70 ft and ddint get any bites. He left an hour or so later and i hopped on that rock and had 2 keepers in 45 minutes, then on the way back to the harbor i stopped at another 70 ft spot in Mount Sinai and had a 21 incher after 3 drifts. It seems they're schooled up in super specific spots so they might be hard to find but when you find them you should crush them. If that guy wasn't on the rock i wanted to fish who knows how many more keepers i wouldve had yesterday. But everything i am fishing is boulders i havent fished any ledges for sea bass.
@@milesk14 thanks for all the intel Miles, I appreciate it. I think your absolutely right about how they are spread out and not on all the boulders but once you find a good school of them its game on. I've been meaning to try those 115' boulders, you may see me out there one super calm day haha
@@milesk14 I think that was me yesterday.. did u have alot of weaks last weekend?
Peter
wow great darn fishing
I am curious how is it that you caught mostly only Bass
I mean I would have guessed that the usual assortment of fish would have hit those lures, like Fluke. Robins Bluefish Striped Bass, etc
or did you edit out??
also
i see what you were saying in our previous discussion about this location vs the other one
now I am definitely able to see myself moving to either of these two fishing grounds
Thanks Steve, its true we mostly caught sea bass. I think we only caught 1 porgy and maybe 2 searobins, and 1 spider crab. Not really sure why it was that way but I think the porgy and sea robins were only in the shallow area we fished the second half. And since they were tailbiting the larger profile certainly helped me avoid them and eventually thats why my dad switched away from gulp as well. Smaller jigheads and gulp would have definitely caught Porgy in that 20' area we were...we didnt bring any bait on this trip thats also why I think. the seabass are def more plentiful out here than in the western sound, and I hardly ever see keepers like this in 20' of water
Glad you are finding seabass in the sound. Orient point has been pretty lame so far, mostly midgets.
Good to know Robert, thanks. I guess they are just moving around a bit and happen to be over where I am for now
2:28
That's what she said.....
Then she switched to 12:11 hee hee hee.
😂
Wasn't your kayak yellow? I'm soooo color blind it took 3 months and waivers to get into the U.S. Army.....So maybe it was grey.
Dad has the flag today.
lol yes my Hobie compass is yellow - When I fish this area which is close to my parents' house I usually leave mine at home and use his 10.5' Hobie passport bc its just so much easier to launch since it stays on the beach. Yeah, he was the flag man this day.
Peter
I wanted to ask you a while back but kept forgetting to
so I am wondering about how much you love , like your kayak, are there cones
you always look very stable
I am worried about one thing when it comes to stability
I have gained weight thanks to no gym ( covid) and went from 215 to 235
I bet you are about 175-185
I bet that difference could mean whether or not my fat ass capsizes one day and you do not
right
I mean I would obviously not make the mistake that your dad did, thanks in part to his mistake taught me to think about that
no I am thinking about when a wake from a big boat surprises me and I cannot turn the kayak in time
then again I am reassured and believe that this will not be an issue in the sound as it is , say for Mr skinner and anyone fishing in the Great South Bay
so as long as I stay with the Sound I believe it will not happen,
for example from all your vids I rarely even see another boat, let alone a close call from a wake
from some scumbag
pardon my french
lol
lol ok, I will try to answer best I can. I think I honestly prefer fishing from the kayak than a boat in most situations. This may change as I get older, not sure. I'm only 165lb after a big meal (im pretty short) but I think you could still use a kayak at that weight, I would just reccommend a higher weight capacity kayak than this one (hobie passport) as it should help the stability if the kayak isnt near its weight capacity. You just need to start with baby steps, i didnt even leave the back bay my first year on a kayak. I then slowly pushed my limits more and more fishing the sound further and further out. I don't fish the inlets during the summer mainly because of the boat traffic, and I will typically fish areas that I know there wont be many boats (mainly for peace and quiet but also for safety). So in summary you just need to get out and try it, learn as you go and start in a calm area to get your bearings. I'm still learning as I go too!
Peter, thank you for those guidelines learn as I go and start small, wow you stayed in the back back your first year SMART
baby steps, right,,,,,,,,,,,
and about my 235 , I wonder if your dad weighs close to that, and so if he does I see that the kayak can handle it but I will also take your advice looking into higher capacity yaks
so here is a question could you tell me a few stories if there are any , of when you had some close calls
if you did, and how you saved yourself
like maybe the weather started out calm but then got nasty and you had to high tail it home
and I will definitely follow your advice about not fishing inlets during the summer months
and i will learn to find the areas of less boat traffic, excellent
and here is the worst scenario , which actually happened to Elias V, and others, namely
what do you do when the pedal system malfunctions / BREAKS
and lastly
so the way to find spots is to just go out and read the fish finder , for ledges/ drop offs /Boulders
and then use the GPS to mark them for the future
I noticed that John Skinner is very high on the spot lock trolling motor, whatever it is called
do you see yourself ever adding this to your yak
as you probably have seen , Skinner reports how it makes a world of difference
I forget if he uses it on his yak, but it seems to be worth it to keep you where the best place is@@PeterRanieriII
@@stevetautog880 I think you and my dad are about the same weight so yeah it def can work its just I dont load his kayak with much gear at all because he's closer to the capacity. Also 12' kayaks just have more room for bigger people, so maybe a 12' one with a little more room and capacity is ideal. I had 2 close calls where I felt uncomfortable, both wind related causing the waves to just be too much and going with the waves as I returned, you start "surfing" the waves and this is a very unsettling feeling and is how the bow of the kayak can catch the trough of the wave and you will roll or flip forward. It never happened to me but I felt very close to it happening so just dont risk it when its too windy. This is around the 13-15mph mark in the open sound for me, thats why I try to only go out under 10mph.
you should always have your paddle as a back up incase the pedals fail. This is also why I like having a motor as a 3rd source of propulsion. The way I find spots is 3 main things I look for: boulders, ledges, current. I try to research the maps days before and plan out a trip based on the currents, then yes when I find a succesful area I will mark it on the gps and return, but I do try to explore as much as I can as I find this is how I learn things much quicker. I would love to add a spot lock trolling motor to my kayak but for now its not in my budget so I will stick with the traditional anchoring method. Besides I really only feel that anchoring is necessary for blackfishing. everything else you can drift for and even fluke you can adjust the drift as you want with the pedals. it would be nice to not move after catching a fish but its not essential.
thank you for al the feedbak
yes agree a 12ft or more would be a better spec for my weight
also i want to tell you A FUNNY SAD STUPID story
so back in 2014-15 I discovered and enjoyed dozens of vids by Elias V
and I thought I would be moving back east within the year,,,, ( I lived in the Stony Brook area for 21 yrs)
Elias was using a paddle, this was before the advent of peddles
so STUPID Me ( how was I supposed to know)
I went and bought a kayak from a company whose claim was that it was the newest cutting edge , lightest material ) not rotomolded)\ I am
blanking on the damn name of the company it is sitting in the garage going on 7 damn yrs,
because i failed to move,, but also because it is a paddle yak
but when i got it I was in freakin heavan
all i had to do was make the move to the new house
suffice it to say I was very happy and psyched to enjoy years of fishing and I tricked it out with all the rod holders and many other holders etc
and set it up with all the things i would need to save my gear in the event of a capsize,,
I even put reflector tape all around it as I planned on even doing night fishing,
also at that time the only fish i wanted was striped bass, which is so totally ironic because now I no longer like eating that fish,
and am looking to a lifetime of Fluke Seabass Robins Blackfish and Weaks and maybe keeping a striped bass to eat and feed to my cats
lol
back to the story
so my move east got delayed whole other story
and then here is the sad part
I discovered that if a boat's wake is coming at me and i have to turn quickly i was toast
I don't know why but I neglected to have a RUDDER system
I had them install the whole fishinder stuff
and I even also bought to stabilizers so I would feel safer, ( although I believed that the attachment to the yak would possibly just break under stress
but I'll never know
so then the invention of the PEDDLE yak occurred which made turning a piece of cake in an emergency ( wake)
and i was so STUPID to have just wasted the entire time and money( 3-4K)
I will get back to you with the name of the company
but it was truely light
it is14 feet and only 50 lbs
but is it now a complete loss
nevermind that I am still in Queens
but even if i did travel far to fish I would then have to make sure I picked a spot where there was no crazy boat traffic
thinking aloud I could probably ask you about places to launch
and make sure i go on a weekday ONLY and maybe I could do it
but, again thinking aloud, having to paddle AND fish is a f'ing joke of a chore
compared to peddling
so haha this beautiful lightweight yak will, it looks like , live its whole life and then die in my garage having never even seen its damn maiden voyage
right lol
chalk it up to a loss shit happens
how the heck was i supposed to know that the peddle yak was about to be invented
I was watching and learning every thing that Elias did
and the same with Skinner I was studying his every move, and he ALSO WAS using just a Paddle
so that is the story
hey on a different point you mentioned that you have no problem using a anchor system to keep you over the fish
so of course as you know if there is current , or if the current suddenly develops this can be a recipe for a capsize
again I am you know this, I am just saying that i have been made aware from watching vids of this potential nightmare
@@PeterRanieriII
ok so the name of the kayak company is Eddyline
and for some reason I forget what I chose to NOT go with their fishing' model but went with he carribean 14
I remember after the fact thinking I was so stupid to have not gone with the fishing model
but ha ha ha same problem BOTH are Paddle yaks
Season open here closed their , it makes no sense because politicians are in charge of it ! You think your license/permission slip is to protect fish na it doesn't companies are still dumping in the waters Sooo ! We all have a god-given right to recreational fish for fun food therapy, let's help abolish the recreational fishing licenses
the saltwater license is free though, I think they just want to get an idea of how many people are recreationally fishing marine waters, no?
Peter, agree about the salt water registration. In my view, the procedure of state regulator deciding the legal size , limit number and opening season of fishing is not transparent. Salt water fishing regulations are changed at least once a year, but I never know any hearing are setup. Do you any any idea how NYS DEC you determine fishing limits every year?