Could Chinese & Russian military kick the US forces out of Japan & Pacific?
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This video analyses a hypothetical conflict between a Russian and Chinese Alliance and US and Japanese Alliance. Could the red side's military kick out the US presence from the western Pacific?
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Remember kids, no nukes, no prep, no attrition and no allies. It's just another fun Binkov scenario ;)
That made sense when it was 1v1. But this is not. Why is Korea neutral but Japan isn't arbitrarily. A more realistic war with realistic allies will make a better video.
Now you tell me!!!!
@@anthonydefilippo8526 because the reality is the us military is a behemoth and its naval and air power cannot be challenged 1 on 1 by a single country
Ang kailangan ay magisip ng malaliman kung paan0 mapadali. Matal0 ang Russia. Malagay sila ng missiles sa ilalim ng lupa sa ilalim ng dagat defection Pin copied text snippets to stop them expiring after 1 hour
At sa nasa at bibigyan nila ng warning ang mga it0.. Kapag nagmatigas yung at0mic na ginawa nila n00ng w0rldww2 apat na. D0bli para. Mapasuk0 ang Russia at china. Buburahin nila ang kalahati. Nit0 para humina ang pwersa ng. Mga it0.. It0 nakaplan0. Ng us.
I’m just here for all the incredibly unbiased and intelligent comments.
Sarah u what makes back bone my choice kings
Love all extra yelling
Reminds me my uncle
I loved that Marine who is your icon.
I was on Marine bases helping them out for years in Africa and Iraq. Love the Marines. The army would hunker down when the shells came in. The marines went hunting. Needless to say. They started leaving the Marines alone as much as the could. They feared them.
Its crazy how closely knit Japan and America despite the fact that they were swarn enemies just 70 years ago
It really is. It's amazing what helping rebuild a defeated country can do to relations instead of pillaging every country under your control like Russia did
@@titan1639 SJWs will hate you for saying that.
But joked aside, yeah, your right.
I am from Balkans and ay surly nou wat wars mins in her pure sans i am praud Serbian old land who bigans on 10 sentury bc. And older and how i get toted its in wars sens den.
@@stefanmilosevic2162 I get you’re Serbian and not an English major in university but oh my god I don’t think anyone can read this
no they're just biding their time for when they can get revenge
This is why Japan is rapidly expanding the "Self-defense force".
For self defence of course
@@Gamer_field for attacking china
@@arthureast3912 Well, they deserve it.
@@arthureast3912 the self-defensive offensive
@@arthureast3912 It’s legit in there constitution that they can’t declare war. The only way Japan would fight is if China attacked them first
If anyone attacks Japan, I'l flying there to be part of the defense force. Gotta protect my anime and manga.
J C sure sure
Yeah right. Anime and manga. Sure. More like protecting hentai. Lol.
@@karlobatiao4398 and there will be no bigger glory than dying while protecting hentai tbh
and
Nintendo Sony jo1(jpop )
Ah, a fellow man of culture, I see.
But what about Japan's secret weapon ...Godzilla .
Honestly im here just to see the rage of USA haters
Get popcorn and alcohol, take a shot for every conspiracy comment
Ah, I found the American seating. Time to sit back and slap some ass.
USA IS BAD COUNTRY WHILE CHINA AND RUSSIA GOOD.
Now give me good boy points or I black mail you.
@@echidnanatsuki882 Fact
cApItaLisM iS tHe wORsT sYsTem, cHiNa wIn eAsy
It's been over 100 years and I feel like another Russo-Japanese war simulation would be cool
it would be a very one sided conflict in favor of japan
@@DarkKnight52365 so was the first one
Putin : My name is Putin
Xi Jinping : And my Name is Xi Jinping
Both : Welcome to Jackass
Short answer: No
Long answer: This video
If this war happened, u guys can only find China and Russia in ur history book. Sry? Did u ask me how about the US? It's polishing shoes for the new world leader(Europe).
@@variousbeans5043 lmao funny you said Europe
This video is just a "simulation" using a Risk table game. Not actual real-life accuracy stuff at all.
Considering the fact that the US and Japan have both waged the biggest naval war in the history of mankind and now they are both allies, no China and Russia dont have any chance.
Now imagine how Japan is gonna surrender once the OCS is declared military alliance
Japan is not an empire any more it's as weak as little Britain when it lost it empire
@@princecharming4708 Its the third largest economy in the world
@@princecharming4708 Japan has a military you fool. And Japan is one of them most advanced by far they are ahead of most. You can compare Japanese inocations with European and American.
Thing is the Japanese military can only be defensive hence why they USA is stationed there. It's more a reminder for Japan to honor the agreement they will always be defensive.
@@tylerrobbins8311 actually japan is in decline and has been since the 90s with a debt twice its gdp and a population that is shrinking to 80 million by 2050 its hardly got a bright future and will most likely get gobbled up by china in the next few years and be turned communist like the USA when it collapses and china becomes number 1
People here in the comments don't seem to realize this is a *Pacific* scenario. This has nothing to do with European Russia, Afghanistan, NATO, or anything outside of the Pacific.
So basically... The usual moment when people forget that the scenario has rules it sticks to.
@@massineben7198 Pretty much...
Some people think the army can magically transport to half a world away in seconds.
Doesn't matter. Red still lose.
TheLastCasualty ...Yeah but as soon as 🇺🇸 gets attacked or goes to war, article 5 of NATO gets applied and that states.....(not word for word but here’s the synopsis)...if any NATO nation is attacked or goes to war, the organization as a whole responds with a coalition. That’s why it’s never just 🇺🇸 vs whomever and that’s the advantage of having NATO.
"[USAF General] Hyten said U.S. space weapons programs are designed not to create dangerous debris. Instead, the military is working on counter-communications capabilities that can cut links between ground control and space systems.
Asked if maneuvering satellites and jamming are the only space arms being worked on, Hyten said: "That's not it, but that's all I can tell you."
freebeacon.com/national-security/general-china-space-threat-drives-u-s-space-warfare-buildup/
Any reconnaissance assets coming near US aircraft carriers will be seen by E-2s and other assets and will be electronically or physically attacked. Satellites will be attacked by Electronic Warfare and air breathing recon assets by F-18s guided by E-2s. Neither China nor Russia will be able to maintain a continuous track on fast moving carriers required by their hypersonic or antiship ballistic missiles.
Almost adorable to see chinese fanboys in the comments saying that they could beat americas navy. We could sink the entire chinese fleet in just 1 day
好莱坞看多了吧，你们可以派出钢铁侠横扫中国。还一天。这么厉害，怎么还和中国谈判？自己不觉得可笑吗？
That nation attacked Vietnam after war with US and lost xD
@@deniscare112 he is talking about naval warfare not ground
@@junjin3033 china is not that guy
Is that true, or you just fking around?
The winners in this war: Nobody. The losers: the Ryukyu islanders.
My (Okinawan) great-grandparents lost many of their brothers & sisters in the war, I would never want that to happen again.
I agree with the video. it'd be a blue victory but a higher cost than we'd like. Russian and Chinese would have their entire air force and navy decimated which could be something that they'd never be able to recover from. Interesting to think that this is solely focused on the pacific. Russia would be force to deal with a 2 front war. We still have air force bases in Poland, Germany, Italy and turkey. Plus Army bases too. Russia wouldn't be able to send all of her planes to the pacific theater. And of course other countries like Korea would get involved too. Interesting thought experiment though!
If this war were to happen other allies would join the US such as Britain, France and Australia.
Said Ali China and Russia are literally doing the exact same thing at this moment America is the only thing keeping them from taking whatever they want
Can't squash Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq armies though...
And these countries are not even a superpower, nor technological, numerically and industrially capable nor superior.
Either way, this is a hypothetical scenario.
Omae wa Ima shindeiru yo actually most of those countries were squashed. The Iraq military was one of the worlds largest and it was swept aside in weeks. Defeating a countries armed forces and fighting an insurgency are not the same
True, one note though, I woudnt realy count the bases in Turkey as they tend to refuse their use whenever the hell they like.
The problem I have with this video is like most of the US vs. Videos.
I think one of the key flaws (if you can call it a flaw) is the tendency to assume that these militaries will experience like for like losses, somewhat akin to WW2. When as we often see in the US's various war games, and reality is that modern wars (in Iraq and Falklands for example) do not play out this way. On a battle to battle basis, a single side often claims the initiative early on and snowballs from there. One of the US's greatest advantages, particularly against the RF and PRC that is rarely talked about is their highly networked and sophisticated command and control. This allows them to think and react faster to a changing battlefield environment faster than any armed forces on Earth. Being able to peel back the fog of war and make critical decisions with some level of accuracy is what wins modern wars, more than anything else.
That is a pretty good advantage but what if the us got hit by a emp missile ?
@@generalboyit7867 EMP's of any relevant size, as you know, can only be delivered through the high-altitude detonation of thermonuclear weapons. Likely multiple. Such launches would be just as disruptive to friendly forces as they would to enemy, rendering this option only suitable for defensive use as part of a retreat. More importantly such a launch would be indistinguishable from the offensive launch of ICBMs in a nuclear attack, and due to the short decision loop in nuclear warfare almost certainly trigger a nuclear response. Imagine being the President of the US and hearing that after RU/CN ICBMs were launched all contact with US forces on the Island of Japan was lost. You have 30 minutes to make a decision. What would you do?
@yehoutube That's not a compelling argument, those wars were fought decades ago under very different win/loss conditions and for very different objectives. We're talking here about a primarily naval and air war centered around the ability to competently launch air strikes into non-permissible air space. This is something the US Military is highly specialized to achieve being primarily offensive focused. Vietnam and the Korean War were hampered from achieving their objectives due to the political reality of the time. For example, the US President Harry S. Truman (being generally incompetent) believed that an invasion of China to destroy the forces amassing at the border would lead to open hostilities between the US and USSR. Truman would refrain from risking Europe at all costs, thus his tepid policy in Asia. As for Vietnam the overwhelming reality acknowledged by all sides was that the US could take Hanoi at any moment. Despite the extensive Russian SAM defenses, during the Nixon administration large scale bombing raids into North Vietnam were not prevented. Nor were they preventable frankly. The mismanagement of the war (which shouldn't have even started by the way) is expressly acknowledged as the fault of the Johnson administration and its inability to determine win conditions for the war beyond propping up the SV puppet government. This meant that for the majority of these conflicts the US forces were deprived of the initiative by their own government. In the conventional conflict Binkov presents the neither of the problematic political conditions from Vietnam and North Korea exist, as nuclear weapons are not modeled. Thus, the superior C&C of the US gives American forces a shorter decision making loop and as a consequence, the initiative.
Nah, Japan has Godzilla, they're good.
And Mothdra.
And one punch man
Godzilla, Mothra, National Kid, Naruto and the Power Rangers.
Nobody in the whole planet Earth would beat Japan. They have Sushi missiles and Sashimi drones.
With a scenario of more than a year, economics will become a factor. China's supply of ocean borne raw material and energy is extremely vulnerable, unlike those of the US.
That would mean angering other countries by depriving them of trade with China.
@@ddaazahh8064
Very true, but that is to be expected during war.
And then there is the often ignored, at least by the typical person discussing hypothetical wars, reasons for the hypothetical war.
The simple fact is that a shooting war between teh US and China woul dresult in a global recession, if not an out right depression.
The US would cripple China's economy. Making it more difficult to build more military assets, what ever that might be. China would be in debt like America is lol
@@elleneim7638
In other posts, I have said exactly that. Crippling the economy is less costly than a direct confrontation in Chinses home waters where they have the advantage of landbasd air, missiles, and sensors.
As they say, amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics. Logistically, China is in a hopeless situation. They would be out of oil in a few months, out of food in the same. More locally, their troops on the Ryuku islands would have to bring everything they need when they first land, because they would not get anything more.
Ok, and I’m sure a lot of people won’t see this but. The purpose of the restrictions such as neutrality from other countries and prep time is to try and lower the amount of variables Involved. This video is about a conflict between 4 very powerful countries so The need to limit the scope is important to keep shit from getting very convoluted. It’s a “what-if” scenario based on military statistics and capability, not an end all argument especially because even the examples given aren’t concrete. Plus this is all based on statistics that are open to the public, who knows what secrets the militaries of each government hide too
Yes I don't think many people consider how complicated things like this could be. (Hypothetical scenario:) We just spent ten minutes talking about two countries military capabilities, or about 5 minutes for one. Nearly every single criticism you have would involve about three more countries, opening more possibilities and more countries and we'd spend more time talking about these countries than the actual subject. I also see things like logistics and economy being thrown around. Do you want this video to be 34 hours long? If you want to hear about every aspect about a hypothetical war then go read Red Storm Rising or something but I am grateful for what they've done so far already is some of the most detailed and considerate work I've seen.
But seriously go read Red Storm Rising.
Forward to 2021. SOmeone needs to remind Binkov, if US cant even defeat a few Taliban soldiers with outdated AK 47 running on sandals, what makes you think the US can defeat China and Russia COMBINED? lol. Sorry, but this is a the minimum, laughable.
@@fredh8065 I disagree with this. China and Russia are countries that fight in conventional warfare. The US dominates conventional warfare. But the Taliban is an uncoventionalist fighter. The US is not very good at that. Just look at Vietnam.
@@fredh8065 Guerrilla warfare and conventional warfare are two different situations.
Like any aggressor, they would score some initial success. In the end the USA would destroy them navally and economically. Neither Russia, nor China, would ship a damned thing over the oceans of the world and rail and road can be interdicted selectively from the air. USA isn't dumb enough to fight a land war with them.
Good call
Yeah, would be incredibly stupid to fight a ground war with a nation who could, conceivably, field an army larger than our whole population.
In the real world, that would have far greater consequences, as the Chinese would undoubtedly invade the Korean peninsula, knowing that they're pretty much unopposed and the US presence in South Korea is their most immediate threat.
That would REALLY piss off the States, but what would their reaction be? Now that's a good question.
How would it destroy them navally? just because US has a few more carriers than them? This isnt HOI4
We may do a land war. We won't be alone. There will be many countries on the ground too. Including India which has a large population that China worries about. with our military and allies would win in the end. It won't be our guys just shooting bullets and hope we have enough bullets. Will be using ally soldiers too. Drone strikes, bombers, tanks, etc.
Everyones gangster until a chinese man starts coughing
:D
Lmao 😂
How things have changed. Now we fear americans and europeans
Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Covid-19 turned out to be a Bioweapon, specifically made by the Chinese Communists.
Your uniform sort looks like a Russian staff officer's uniform. So...Putin calls Biden. Putin says "Joe, I just had a dream where I am watching a big military parade on the streets of Washington, DC. People were watching from the streets sidewalks. The people all carried sign that said 'WELCOME, RUSSIAN LIBERATORS!'. Biden told Putin "Vlad, that is amazing! I just had a dream about the same kind parade in Moscow." Putin asked, "What did their signs say?" Joe responds, "I don't know. I can't read Chinese."
THESE are the videos I want. Not silly matchups between WW2 and Modern equipment.
I still dont understand why he does that and puts that much effort in silly videos
辛辣球Bitter Balls
Yea me neither.
Based on Russia’s performance in Ukraine and China’s lack of combat experience the odds seem pretty solid in the US’s favor.
Who else still wants a full worldwide modern WW3 video?
Everyone
Britain would win lol
@@Billyzgstar Maybe in it's region . Ireland , France, Scotland rebellion would be tough but Britain has better will power and joint naval and air power domains. Geography . England safe! That's my assumption I'm probably totally off but it's hypothetical. Hopefully ww3 doesn't happen or if it does just limited nuclear exchange . Everything and everyone believes we should live?? Right??
I can't imagine the number of civilian casualties.
Revenge for the rape of nanking.
Patrick Milewski The hundreds of thousands of Japanese burned alive in US firebombings in 1945 not good for you? Stop being an idiot.
It'll probably be less than you think since both sides would avoid going after each other's mainland, as it's suicidal to do so anyway. But Okiniwans will suffer, no doubt, their great grandparents faced it before.
3-10% fully acceptable
So the main difference is that Red side is mostly a defensive force not really designed to invade, whereas blue is designed for invading.
The U.S. invaded N.Korea , Vietnam , Iraq and Afghanistan and what were the final results ??.....what is the exit strategy ? ....was the cost of blood and treasure worth it ?....it's cheaper to live in peace , something America doesn't ever learn.
Considering UK, Canada, Australia and SK would all join in if we're being realistic, not a chance. The Reds might get some early victories but they would be contained within a year.
What exactly is a Red? A Communist? A Republican? A Cincinnati baseball fan?
It's been nearly 30 years since Russia was Red if you mean Communist...
Guess we're all nuts to take strategy from a talking frog puppet...
@@cs-rj8ru Dude, red as the color that Binkov used in this scenario lmao
Russia and Chinas "capitalism" are not even close to the USA' s capitalism.
I'm not sure they matter. The US can win this alone. Canada definitely doesn't have the power projection to do much in that area.
Hg Giacomello Yes,in Russia all citizens can vote at the presidential elections,unlike China and the USA
80 years ago, us-china-ussr allied together to fight the japanese...
how things have changed in such a short period of time!
China was in a civil war in the middle of a World war. The Soviets were still the enemy but Germany was a bigger threat. Also the Soviets didn't help the US against Japan as much as some reformists believe. Thank you.
@@Predator42ID Yeah, the Soviets and Communist Chinese didn't do shit in the Pacific Front. It was the US and Nationalist Chinese that fought the bulk of that war.
@seth Thomas You are wrong. There were japan forces fighting with the Soviets but nothing big - they were concentrated on the big battle with Germany. After Berlin ... japan was doomed.
Do not get me wrong US did the big hits there.
@@Predator42ID Yes, the Kuomintang and Americans did the bulk of the fighting, but the Soviets did liberate Manchukuo (Manchuria).
The premise isn't worth a video. The US Navy is equal to the next 7 largest navies combined.
The navies of China and Russia would probably remain in port except for subs which would be used to haras the US fleet. The fact that Russian and Chinese territories are so close would mean that they could bring their and based missiles and aircraft into play maybe even limiting US naval activity west of Japan
yes the total number is far bigger but real life isn't a cards game where you just have all your forces in your hand ready to be deployed wherever you wish, US forces are positioned across the whole world and like the video says, repositioning takes weeks/months while the chineses and russians have the fight practically at their doorstep.
Imagine actually believing that the US navy is equal to the next 7 largest navies combined
@@elafl807 More like all the Navys of the rest of the world combined. Imagine that? You don't have to because its true.
@Drew and the US Navy has 20x the amount of missiles as China has "fishing boats"
Make one about a realistic ww3. Both koreas would likely get involved. Taiwan and Australia as well as NATO allies would join the war too
I thought so too. But then leaving it Korea was a pretty good assumption I think as N korea would take advantage of chaos and try moving south, so S Korea would be preoccupied and unable to immediately help. S korea is in a geographical downside in that their capital is within stones throw of N Korean artillery.
Well realistically, I doubt Russia would side with China in a war anyway. China is more of a threat to Russian land than America is.
we will never join the war! It does not benefit us and has nothing to do with us. The Australian people are angry with our involvement in Middle East. It's political suicide for our government to join WW3.
@@aussieboy4090 yeah, I think Americans forget that China is our biggest trading partner.
#1 Korea would not be neutral.
#2 Japan is more powerful than Ukraine.
#3 I expect more than 2 US carriers with full Airwings.
Don't forget about the Philippines as well! While in theory not a huge military super power, they could provide huge support in the war.
@@alexspillman9192 on point.
Australia is bound by a defence we would definitely be there too ....
@@alexspillman9192 Some nukes will send you back to your place
@@Daniel23424 China and russia would get nuked too then
Never ever attack the USA or Japan. The response would be hell on earth.
From Superman & Sailormoon. Just kidding. For sure in real life everybody will intervene. Because there's a possibility that China & Japan's neighboring countries will be affected.
War is not the answer. Only dumb people will do that. 🥰😍😘✌
Random Person Why would anyone want to invade those two? There is nothing of value there. I know Russians are forever talking about being surrounded but nobody cares about Russia and nobody cares about China also. Poor lands for farming and even worse transportation systems. Both countries are toilets.
I think half the people in the comment section are taking this waaaaaayyyy to personally... like guys... chill... this is literally a hypothetical analysis just because its interesting and intresting thought, kind of like the games chess or risk, there isn't any real harm in any of this... like cmon guys, dont get so butt hurt over sombody making simply theoretical videos
Well said dude..cheers✌️🔥🙏
Americans are a bunch of snowflakes. Literally every video they're discussed if they're losing they whine in the comments about how "inaccurate" it is.
@@MrEvan1932 yes you are right
@@MrEvan1932 dude. Noone is saying that at all... dont try and find a way to throw shade on americans just because your country hates them
@Stephen Jenkins ikr. They say were snowflakes and shit, and it honestly gets annoying from how hypocritical it is
There is a major flaw in your strategy, Binkov. According to you, Russia sent most of its Northern fleet, and most of its air and land forces East, to help China, so why wouldn't the United States of America use its Atlantic fleet and Air Forces/Army units, in Europe, to attack Moscow? It would be mostly defenseless.
This is a good point. US keeps a lot of forces in Europe.
@Drew of course we would need NATO. 70% of our forces would be in the Pacific.
I doubt Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Australia and a few other countries would sit by and not help out. There are also significant US Air Force and Army assets in the area as well. Not to mention within 12 hours, B1 and B2's would be showing up to knock out a large part of the opposing surface fleet. Lastly this also implies that the US and allies would be caught completely by suprise. As the build up of forces would provoke an equal build up of forces.
.i can't wait to read all of the comments from...."experts" with no training and no experience and majority, lacking even any military service at all, explain how which militaries are better than the other and explain why and explain exactly how each aircraft performs(because they use flight Sim video games which makes them real pilots) also, Call of Duty video game players explaining how to fight fight ground war and how to use logistics during during a war. Lol Always a ton of these types of people in the comment sections of videos like this.
@@nexpro6118 t. China shill
Make a video about a conventional WW3 scenario (NATO, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand and Taiwan VS Russia, China, Iran and North Korea).
id like to see that, but that would not be a small undertaking. We would probably not see another video for almost a year then.
YESS
The Japanese Navy alone would be too much for both Russia and China. The JDF Navy is the 2nd most capable Navy after the US Navy.
Without US support? They couldn't get too close to either Russia or China who both have large numbers of anti-ship missiles. Japan itself would be safe but the southern Ryuku are basically indefensible. They can certainly break any attempt at a blockade on the Eastern sea though.
are you kidding？？？？？？？
Some other things to consider- 1 China does not report all of the things that they make. China could have a far larger navy than what we know of. Especially in regards to submarines.
That is true that China doesn't report or give accurate stats for pretty much anything. But as for Navy assets that is something that can be more proven to be true since it is very hard to cover-up the building of a navy ship. So while I'm sure that almost all stats from China on their military are lies. The amount of ships in their navy I believe is correct.
@@PhillyPhanVinny problem is that there is an island off the coast of China where they are building subs and launching them out underwater. I remember reading about that a few years ago.
@@PhillyPhanVinny we tried to send a boat close to it and was promptly forced to turn around. That happened at the end of Obama's presidency. Remember that? We were spying on it. Trying to get intel. Surface ships are a different story.
@@PhillyPhanVinny but the way China is doing it now, they can build subs and hide their numbers.
@@christtheonlyhope4578 if they can built multiple hispitals in weeks to combat the viral infections there .. building things to kill humans is easier for them
. Which is bad killing
Our Allies have our Six, no worries there!!
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#AUKUS
And our 12!
9&3! Lol
Hopefully our government in New Zealand will be voted out next election and National will be voted in. When that happens we should strengthen our alliance with Australia and USA.
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USA the rag of the weaknesses of NATO alliance will disappear in a few years the wicked weakness of the USA cannot fight one-on-one with Russia cowards USA NATO jerseys
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They'll never destroy anime
You mean the rising sun of Japan
Let’s be honest guys. I am not American but we all know that TODAY with modern technology and well trained job army instead of draft army the US is by far the strongest nation on the world and militarily spoken unbeatable.
no not really
@@cringeusername9961 but he said in the video that in that scenario there was not going to be any allies
@@goyslop-consumer Yes it is. The US is the dominant military power in the world. It has technology and up to date equipment more than ANY other nation in the world. It has a flexible military command that encourages lower ranking officers to make crucial decisions in split second circumstances, and has a well trained army. China's military is a top down command that can take literal HOURS to carry out an order and an army of poorly armored, poorly trained, poorly fed, conscripts
Guess you haven't seen the 2 moms recruiting video
@@SpaceMonkeyBoi that video was a mockery of everything the usa military stands for. I guaruntee not there isn't a company in the usa army that thinks that way
Iran vs Turkey
Russia vs All other post soviet states combined
U.S vs Mexico
U.S vs Canada
Canada vs Denmark over Greenland
Mexico vs All of Central America
Thailand vs Myanmar
Spain vs Portugal
Brazil vs Argentina
Argentina vs Chile
Mongolia vs Bolivia
Belgium vs Belgium
Afghanistan vs the rest of the world
Canada vs Denmark, let's go lol
When you say Mexico you are really saying the cartels...the cartel is more powerful than the military in Mexico!
@@74superglide While it would be interesting to see what the combined might of the cartels could do, I meant the military, as many people do not really know what it is capable of and not.
@@Mirageknight2133 The battle over that island between Greenland and northern Canada turns into an all out hypothetical bloodbath.
@@Man_0f_Trenches well the police arrested one of El chapos sons and then a shootout began and the cartel outgunned the police and national guard lol 🤣and made them release him!
Do China vs Bats next
Bats win
or us vs flu
Not going to do alot of back and forth here but I don't think most people understand the massive technological differences between U.S. military forces and those of China, Russian (and to be frank MOST of the world). The U.S. has OPERATIONAL Gen-5 fighters that will literally wipe the skies clean of enemy fighters. Rail guns are OPERATIONAL in the pacific theater and laser guns are in the testing phase (this minimizes the threat from land and air based ballistic missiles. Japan and Taiwan has Aegis cruisers and Japan has a STRONG national defense army. The swarm attacks that China will be forced to use will result in MASSIVE casualties for them. The USN will quite literally dominate the seas (sinking or restricting any Chinese surface ships from the seas and the appearance of Virginia class attack subs (which are OPERATIONAL already) will eliminate the underwater threat. U.S. casualties on the Korean peninsula will be high but U.S. response would create casualties on a level we cannot imagine. Make no mistake.... the existence of nukes protects the Russians and Chinese from annihilation... not the other way around.
Jabari Bryant the bear and dragon are the least that US wanted to poke. Any attempt will result in catastrophic event on US mainland.
@@christopherz9612 there are groups all over the world that want to strike us. Unless those 2 oceans shrink or vanish. Our navy and air forces are literally decades ahead of theirs and they won't get close to the homeland.
The only way countries can harm us mainland is with nuclear warheads. It is next to impossible to invade the United States
Christopher Z Any attempt will result in the obliteration of China and Russia. Assured partitioning of both countries and political restructure would occur.
@@christopherz9612 everyone hates China right now plus the US has the most influence in NATO. Israel would join with the us also even if they just attacked Russia
I think that North and South Korea would also be in this war. And Taiwan would also probably join by the US side
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I’m sure India would also join the U.S and it’s allies 🇮🇳
@@TheLoNeDarkWolf999 I'm not it would be hell especially logistically, I'm not sure how well the Indian army could do with massive troop movements in extremely remote areas with poor logistics. Not mention the fact if they did Pakistan would 100% get involved and you know nukes would be exchanged. I think they would sit it out
@@thecommunistdoggo1008 Well India won't join until Pakistan joins the fight. Jai Hind Jai Bharat 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
I know that your videos assume no allies, but come on, I want to see you make an in depth WW3 video
@rob 998 it'd make for a short video
Yes, okinawa would fall so easily because we all know that no one could have survived that bombardment. Right?
I wonder who made that assumption?
This would be such a difficult scenario to display . So many unknowns . Bottom line the US has the most experienced , best trained Navy by far. US ships are faster . The US has far more bombers than Russia and China added together . The US sub fleet is larger and more capable . The US is far more capable of projecting massive firepower . The 800 US bases could pressure Russia by mobilizing on Russia’s western border splitting Russian forces costing Russia billions to support defenses. The US could interfere with Chinese shipping and block oil transports . If the scenario ever started to play out Japan would freak out and rush to support US forces as to defend Japan . It is not possible for Japan to stay neutral their very survival depends on the US prevailing in any war . Plus TIAWAN also depends on the US for survival . The US , TIAWAN and Japan could make China and Russian Navies struggle to gain access to blue water pacific areas .
@felix mendez You again..... Bottom line each side wouldn't want to fight each other, they know it. Both sides would lose thousands of men everyday, their populace would become weary and my not even want to continue fighting. And this is't even counting nukes
@felix mendez They are the just different evil. And America never once said we wanted to dominate the world. If we wanted to dominate the world, we would never have allowed China to get as strong as it is. We wanted to be partners with China. And instead, they exploited us.
@@elleneim7638 Corporate USA sold itself to China, that is the crude reality.
US has 2x as many ships with long range air defences as Ru and Ch combined. And 4x as many aircraft carrier. All of which have better tech,
@@elleneim7638 truth...
As a retired navy veteran that served during the Cold War, I’d love to say hell no, they couldn’t drive us out! Unfortunately with the crowd in charge at the moment, I don’t think they’ve got a pair of balls between all of them, so I’m not confident at all. Don’t get me wrong. The men and women serving are more than capable of doing the job, but somebodies got to give the orders!
Hey there mankov!
Russians askander misiles are 1,500 miles!
Plus there 10s of new hyper sonic maneuverable misiles that Flies and directed in unpredictable directions. And controllable of their direction flying over 10 Hmong speed which impossible to overtake sore in the first six months the Americans will lose all their Airplane carrier ships and that’s the first thing Russia will do. And it might take a month or two. Six months like I said in the beginning. It’s if the USA will keep them on land parked somewhere hidden. Times has changed. Ship carriers Is not a weapon against Russia no more. Even without nukes. Hard work,and team work pays of. Unless they kill Putin the world will become a much more peaceful place. Because Russia always wanted peace and fairness. Who said the Americans will be dictating the world what to do. Will watch and see.
There only one real leader now in the world. And it Putin. No more Churchill or leaders like him
@@shonbatista9118 how much of that tech is real and how much is vapor ware? Also of the tech that is real, how much of it can Russia afford to make? If Putin is the hope of the world, I’m rooting for the comet!
We know why an invasion of Japan would fail....there is the divine wind and Godzilla ready to defend the Land of the Rising Sun!
Didn’t help them last time 😂
Japan technically never been taken by forces, it's one of the only few Asian countries to do so. The only time its mainland was invaded is when it voluntarily surrendered to the US after 2 atomic bombs, so that in a way, doesn't count as a invasion in a traditional sense.
I’m impressed you found eleven more minutes of video after mentioning we have 15 thousand marines in Japan. That alone made my mind up...
Not one word about the most important advantage of the US. The US has the most combat experienced of the whole of china and Russia.
and you still lost to goat farmers and rice farmers 😹👎🏼
@@mrmacias4217 so did the Russians lol
Probably not Russia. China, yes. Russia has been fighting behind the scenes all over the east. Plus they still remember Afghanistan.
@@mattiOTX lmao yeah they got ducked up in Afghanistan but also people forget that we haven’t been fighting actual country’s with government and borders we are fighting beliefs and ideologies you can’t kill that with bullets
@Lion Pro this isn’t even ground though this is mainly naval combat
Or America could just send them a new bat recipe....
As if you eat it yourself?
And send USA nukes ?!!?!??
The answer to the title of this video is NO, no they couldn't.I don't think alot people realize just how overwhelmingly superior the US military is to everyone else COMBINED.They are the sole reason that democracy & freedom are still here.
Once communist dictatorships have the military ability to overthrow democracy & enslave all of humanity under their soul killing stagnation of homogeneity, they will.The freedom loving people of the most creative & constructive society of all time KNOW this & that is why they will always seek to maintain military dominance in hopes of never having to actually use it, but ALWAYS being prepared to do so.
The price of freedom, is constant vigilance.
black star From our perspective anyways
We honestly don’t know what they could be doing. So I’d say we should expect the worst
Is this satire?
@@tedrelton2830 Go read Jane's Defence & see the statistics for yourself.
@@xandercreates6766 I'm basing my opinion off of Jane's Defence & all the encounters that have been reported so far by west vs east.
IE the fact that Russian stealth is not as good not even close, as US stealth.US can still detect the stealthiest Russian planes from alot farther away than they can, & they can only detect old generation US stealth & only when practically overhead.
The newer generations of US stealth are still undetectable by the latest Russian AA S-500 SAM systems radar.That's the very best they got & the Isreali's overflew it in Syria with their F-35's undetected & knocked out their targets.
black star I was talking about both China and Russia
But ok
The Chinese and Russian Navies together would never scratch a single US Fleet (US has 7). The last time the US unveiled any new advanced tech was 1991 for Gulf War 1. The next round of advanced US tech is going to shock the Chinese out of their Mao suits. Also, don’t compare the 3rd US Marine Division with anything China can field. I was a member of the 2nd Division, and I can tell you, no conscript force in the world could make a stand against a Marine Division. Red side, go ahead and push the blue side, think first battle of Tsushima.
US navy would get completely destroyed if they tried to sail near the Chinese coast in a conventional war, there would just be a bunch reefs made with US ships.
@g45 rmr China doesn't invade for political reasons not military reasons but you're obviously too dense to understand the difference
@@mantouism No, it is obvious who is too dense. You've definitely been watching those propaganda programs on an hourly basis in China. Yeah, the ones that come on during the evening "News". China doesn't have ANY tech that is hasn't stolen or copied. Ask the Iraqi Army of 1991 if numbers count for anything? My platoon took hundreds of POWs. If you are arrogant enough to believe Winnie the Pooh and the Communist propaganda, then you are either one of them, or have another reason to hate the USA....my guess, you are either Chinese, Mexican, or a Camel Jockey. And you definitely haven't traveled extensively around the world. If you did, you would have a wider view.
And as for the Chinese Communists not invading Taiwan....they are too afraid of the world reaction when they do. It's not political, it's fear of total communist destruction.
@@mantouism why would the usa even sail near the coast of china? The usa legit would just stall and destroy all of chinas navy with its massive navy until they could invade but yeah both sides would lose a lot, but I can tell you China would lose mister China communist bot.
A war like this benefits no one, even if the usa wins, the only benefit to an entire ordeal like this would be a destroyed Chinese regime which everyone would support.
Russia and the west need to sort out their differences.
Forward to 2021. SOmeone needs to remind Binkov, if US cant even defeat a few Taliban soldiers with outdated AK 47 running on sandals, what makes you think the US can defeat China and Russia COMBINED? lol. Sorry, but this is at the minimum, laughable.
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The only way usa can defeat Russia or China is by their western news(nato alliance help)
add the koreas and taiwan into that scenario, it would the whole thing more interesting
Russia and China would lose much faster
@Tyler Chubb To be honest, I'd say Japan is their primary target while Taiwan as their secondary target since Japan nearer to Beijing, their capital. Thats my opinion tho.
if you add korea. north korea would definitely join the game, China and russia ground force will directly encounter south korean force. The US would definite aid south korea and send more ground troops to fight China and russia. It is hard to say who would win
Georgia the state vs Georgia the country I’ll never give up!
What about Georgia the island?
Basically an attack on Japan is an attack on a well defended fortress.
Basically an attack on a well defended fortress is something that somebody wont do, China wont and cant take Japan.
RUSSIA is not as close to China as some people think.
China can’t do it on their own. Without Russia this isn’t a scenario worth playing with. This is just for fun
Are u sure about that?
@@VasiliyLanov Yes, because China wants Vladivostok.
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor They could take it np back in 199x.
This all ignores that the Chinese do NOT have a true blue water capability, that their carriers are NOT combat capable, that they are boxed in (for now) west of the Ryukus because they simply do not have the capacity to fight the Japanese, much less the American navy. ANY buildup for this kind of operation, to include moving supplies and troops, would trigger an INSTANT response by the U.S. and ships would sortie weeks before the Chinese could move. Any diplomatic connection of militaries by Russia and China would trigger an INSTANT response. This scenario is COMPLETELY unrealistic.
Which is why he stipulated no prep time. The fact is, and Binkov would admit this. The Naval and Air Forces of the United States of America are nigh unbeatable by even their near peers. _It is even unrealistic to have the Russian Federation and China on the same side in this war. _ However without something like that the answer would be easy. The US would blockade China and bomb to destroy their C4ISTAR infrastrucutre, their warmaking industiral capacity, and the infrastructure they need to provide electricity, water, and food to the populace.
Russia and China will be crushed by the USA and Japan military alliance sun Tzu had once said that know your enemy know yourself the Russian and Chinese Forces might think they have upper hand at first but later on American and Japanese fighting forces at the end of the war in pacific in that epic battle based on air and sea reinforcements
Interesting point, both the US and JP have fought on many of those islands already as well -- combined tactics and new toys would make it interesting.
Australia, India, New Zealand, Israel, Saudi’s and now probs England with many more countries would help the U.S
@Timmy Dragonborn so those America has nukes too Timmy
Timmy Dragonborn Russia would bloom off china’s downfall.
You forgot something Trumps new missiles 7 times faster and faster than Russian and Chinese missiles and America can now shoot down drones with laser weapons and Japan has Godzilla in reserve.
edit: ah shit, i didnt read the last line, i just got jebaited
how are trump missiles 7 times quicker than russian and chinese missiles, did you forget about the hypersonic russian and chinese anti ship missiles, are the american missiles mach 35?
@@ansonkwok9295 Are you seriously that stupid? Hes making some weird joke he literally said Japan has Godzilla I cant believe people are that stupid to take that seriously
Japan also has Gundams
@@ansonkwok9295 Well here it from the horses mouth see vid below at 2.30.
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Well, it's 2022 March as a make this comment. After the epically terrible performance of the Russian military in Ukraine, and finding out how corruption led to a lower state of readiness in their military (which is also found in China), I would have to say no. They could never kick the US out of the Pacific.
terrible performance? my dear friend. Russia could wipe out from the world map Ukraine if Putin wants, but that's not the target.
Dude they not trying to destroy Ukraine they trying to take it over not level it.
@@keysersoze1537 don’t be silly, their strategy of taking over wasn’t working so they’ve moved to leveling cities like Mariupol.
@@keysersoze1537 still. Terrible job even at that. russia is nothing compared to a even passive europe. In a couple of years Europe alone would dwarfe russias military and other capabilities. Together with the US, Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea russia and china would face nothing but destruction.
I'm a Chinese American US citizen, I definitely agree that China is corrupt, but PLN is growing very quickly, and have a much smaller area to worry about, so they might be able to remove America temporarily.
To be realistic, in this scenario both Koreas would be involved.
The coronavirus could infect the Chinese military.
Or via versa ? Viruses don't discriminate don't forget !
Shinzo Abe Reiwa You’re correct. But since China is the epicenter of the virus, I thought of the Chinese military as being more likely to be infected.
@@avelus5984 you are so cute! I like you . Your right 😂. China is also running out of mask. Plus A US economic warfare could crush China in crisese such as this!
Short answer: No
Long answer: noooooo
Imagine Taiwan actually just declare independence during all of this
I AM PRETTY SURE TAIWAN AND JAPAN WILL BE CLEAN AT THE FIRST ROUND
Taiwan is already independent. No need to declare it.
welp china would be too busy to do anything at all
Who cares about Taiwan for the west to getting involved a massive new war?????? All these alliances just make spats between single countries becoming another internatonal war - - stupidity i say
Then I must be Ronald Reagan
China is sick for now and needs bed rest so no war yet
@Felix B Chinese should be conquered and dominated by American just like Japan.
@@joshuajoestar6185 Bring it on. When will you sign up for the first wave of the invasion?
@@joshuajoestar6185 And have the culture destroy? Sorry man. It's best for China to change, not to be conquered. They also have a very big influence over the economy around the world.
I don't think Russia and china would be able to do much. Putting troops on Japan is nuts, their soldiers are very well trained.
Russia and china would eat japan alive bro...
@@Bababoy6969 incorrect. I’d recommended looking at both unit effectiveness as well as the time Japan would have to setup defensive positions. An invasion as sizable as this would be seen weeks ahead of time, so the U.S.A. would bolster their support troops in Japan, as well as Japan ensuring readiness of their reserves and mobilizing all possible forces.
@@btr-70 soo u think russia and china whould annouce they are attacking japan.... i think japan would have around 10 to 15 hours to prelare a all out defense
@@Bababoy6969 that would take months of build up and a schedule time because of the weather
@@conductingintomfoolery9163 dude...its not a damn soccer game its a invasion....
Well it's nice to see all the youtube military experts down below that have never served in a military or been in combat that know exactly what would happen lol.
First off as someone who served as an officer in the US army for 11 yrs (2000-2011) with two tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan I will try to give my opinion on what would happen.
Well first off any major attack by China and Russia wouldn't be a surprise to US and Japanese forces. The US would easily notice major troop and equipment being moved around long before the attack happned. So the US and Japanese would be ready for the attack. It would take the Chinese and Russians months to prepare for an attack of that size, if not longer. Secondly you need to remember that Chinese solders aren't very well trained. The biggest threat to US/Japnese forces would be of course Chinese/Russian ballistic missile attacks. But US/Japanese forces would be ready for them and would limit their damage. As far as Chinese/Russian navy attacking US naval ships it would be extremely costly for them because the US airpower and the strength of the US Navy. US submarines would destroy a lot of their landing ships and launch cruise missiles at their bases inland. After a few months the US would have neutralized any threats.
End the end the US might lose a 10 to 20 ships and 50 to 60 aircraft (depending on how many they lost to ground strikes). Meanwhile the Chinese and Russian would have to rebuild their whole Navy and air force.
Russia doesn't have the funds to fight a long and large scale war against the US, plus it doesn't have the military power. China wil always be a regional threat but still lacks the training and equipment.
MississippiRebel do you think the US has the funds to fight a major war against both China & Russia. Your delusional
yes you are right USA is far stronger and bigger player if not biggest aggressor(oil drinker)in the whole world in last 60years how much ppl and country the USA ruined....and this video is stupid Russia / China will use nukes right away...they will not lose whole navy/air force that's stupid that leaves them defenseless...
@@michaelweston409 The scenario he laid out is a defensive one, in which America has the significant advantage on the ocean. On land, China and Russia would be hell to engage on their turf, but no one thinks that's what America would do. And America's economy would survive an all out war much much better than either of those countries, if it came to it.
Michael Weston - I'm just going to assume you're just ignorant and not a complete idiot ok. So tell me again how you know so much lol?
Dragan697 Videos - LOL, unlike Micheal I'm just going to assume you are an idiot. So i'm not going to try an explain to you why everything you said is stupid.
Imagine this, Japan might have something to say about it. South Korea too.
A big flaw in the Chinese island hopping plan is that you're not counting on how effective the air assets on Okinawa will be in the case of an attack. Also the carrier support. F-35 and AV8B aircraft from amphibious assault ships already in the area will also be brought to that fight. There will already be a Marine Corps MAGTF, (Marine Corps Air Ground Task Force), in the area on a six month float on assault ships. This will include infantry elements, artillery, armor, Cobras, fighter, and attack aircraft to support Okinawa. A land attack on the island would have 15k Marines that know the island defending it until that MAGTF. News flash. Roughly 6000 Marines defended Khe Sanh against roughly 36k North Vietnamese, and held it with basic resources, and minimal resupply. That's not including the JDF personnel stationed on the island. Okinawa would hold as long as they needed to.
And of course China will not do anything? All invading forces will be destroyed. First to be destroyed by hypersonic missiles will be the US bases in Okinawa, Guam and Japan.
@@itch4travel missiles with conventional warheads really don’t do much to a large island.
And the entire Chinese invasion fleet will likely be sunk by US nuclear submarines. You simply can’t do a naval invasion when you have no sea control.
Glad you spelled out the details. That one point over Okinawa felt wrong, but thanks for the more precise details.
actually a U.S fleet battle group can take out the whole world Navy combined but everyone is coughing now so...
.. i hope this is a joke
Ngl the British French Chinese japanase Indian and Russian fleets can easily win or at least push the Americans into Their own coasts
@@Real_r we indian want to push away Corona 😂
@@worldmapping4895 tbh i hope it is
I am Japanese.
I don't think the U.S. will allow China to take Japan because it would mean that the U.S. would have wasted its huge military budget and the lives of its soldiers in the Pacific War, the Korean War, and the Cold War.
We wouldn’t leave Japan to dry because they’re our friends, you’re our friend, we’d die for you, because we know you’d die for us in the same situation
Yes, Japan would never be alone in something like this, we will fight by our friends, our Japanese brothers and sisters, We, the Marines had the pleasure of training with the Japanese Army in Hokkaido, great group of soldiers.
I would enlist to defend the land of anime and instant noodles.
@@grimaldo99 and many other countries would support them too
@@looinrims yeah, you nuked Japan twice, do you really believe Japanese will forget about this? They will never forget about it. !! Never!!
It would be a China v. USA/Japan scenario.
Russia would be knocked-out of Pacific battle in about 2 weeks. The US would target choke points of Trans-Siberian railroad (still only 4 tracks) and prevent Russian reinforcements of men & materiel indefinitely. Russian has only small presence in far east and which is mostly defensive in nature. Transfer of offensive forces/weaponry & supplies would not be possible without RR.
Then why does China buy all their navy tech from Russia? Aircraft carriers, air craft, destroyers, submarines, etc. even their domestic are reverse engineered copies of Russian templates.
@Thomas Fairbanks, what does this have to do with Russia being able to prosecute a war in the Pacific?
Hitting that railroad is an incredibly dangerous mission that would require tons of preparation and with Russia putting all resources into war, it would take at most 2-3 days to repair any kind of damage. This is assuming they don't have a well prepared repair team for their railroad during peacetime already.
I never said it'd be easy!
Trans-Siberian railroad is over 5,700 miles long, crosses 16 major rivers and only has 4 tracks (2 going east, 2 west). Even with excellent Russian air defense network, the US would hit the bridges which are only single-tracked using stealth bombers crossing over arctic as well as cruise missiles from Pacific.
And yet you never mentioned Russian Kalibr Cruise missiles and HYPERSONIC antiship missiles Zircon and Kiznal???
Hypersonic missiles is the area where the US doesn't even have a working prototype yet!
Hypersonic missiles are specifically designed to sink aircraft carriers as they're the most valuable target.
If it's to be believed, the US is very likely to loose their carriers within the range of those missiles.
Either they keep them away, or risk loosing them, which would be a disaster for US morale.
US dont even have working stock? Lol. They do.
Hint 1: speed of light a lot faster than mach 10!
Hint 2 they did this Reagan administration! Lmao
I assure you, losing a carrier would cause us to go into overdrive.
Americans don’t lose morale, we just get progressively more pissed off.
The USN is at least 5years ahead of any country when it comes to WAR FIGHTING TECH...you have NO idea .. The USN fought the Japanese and Germans...and WON....Thank very much....China is a joke... Russia is a joke....Hypersonic is old tech.,.
@@billyjoejackson5477 oh my dear, why don't you come here and sit down.
Here, you forgot yo take your medicine.
Didn't your doctor tell you that you have to take them, otherwise you'll be very confused in life dear.
Now, take one as doctor told you and everything is gonna be ok...
@@squee317 hm..
Everyone gets pissed off too as they loose troops.
The US lost 10 000 aircraft in Vietnam and about 50 000 men and had to leave after they realised they can't do anything.
That's colossal waste of life and planes...
But, do you know what the motto of Russian aerospace strategic missiles soldier is?
"After us silence".
Now that statement tells you all you need to know what will happen if those guys on both sides get involved.
Could the brazilian military kick the French forces out of French Guiana?
Probably yes, also depends on what the US Navy does if it supports France then it is a Falklands War repeat.
Brazilian navy would be too busy dancing Samba and drinking Caipirinha.
Brazil may be a member of BRICS, but they are more or less an American ally with Bolsonaro at the helm.
Raw Gameplay brics is just a economic alliance not a military on why don’t you people get that
Yes 100%.
>Chinese bombardment would decimate them before landing
*Nervous April 1, 1945 noises*
let's b real, they probably couldn't even get us out of Taiwan... and we wouldn't even be starting in Taiwan
What about USA vs EU? I feel like that would be interesting
Thats if the EU is stable enough. GB is gone already countries like norway portugal italy and greece will be hesitant as they are also in their processes for looser ties to the EU.
it will have to be a simulation before Jan 31 so that the EU can be at their strongest
LOL how the EU has 0 military worth noting and are far from united
@@Loki1701e the actual political situation is irrelevant.
Because both sides aren't antagonistic towards each other in the first place, so a war in the first place is completely unrealistic.
If the U.S. gov suddenly tolds it's populace that they were going to fight a total war against Europe there'd be a revolt.
So yeah who cares that the EU isn't "stable". Politics aren't taken into account for a reason.
@@nicobruin8618 No, there would be no revolt if the US went to war with the EU. There would be a bunch of media and academia types crying on television, but no revolt, the average American holds most of Europe in contempt, they seem weak and decadent to our eyes. Personally, that's one war I'd happily go down to my recruiting office and volunteer to fight.
So Russia is essentially not that helpful.
side-fish the only thing keeping Russia relevant is their large nuclear arsenal. Their economy and population are shrinking and they realistically can’t compete with any of the great powers
Russia’s Navy is increasingly defensive in nature and posture. Meaning that it will be difficult going forward for the Russians to mount offensive operations anywhere that isn’t directly on their borders.
You were vary generous with the capability of the red and you left out the difference in capability of the submarines
Forward to 2021. SOmeone needs to remind Binkov, if US cant even defeat a few Taliban soldiers with outdated AK 47 running on sandals, what makes you think the US can defeat China and Russia COMBINED? lol. Sorry, but this is at the minimum, laughable.
@@fredh8065 Binkov analysis are usually just a more sophisticated run of Risk table game. In reality, China would do everything to cripple US/Japan C4STAR advantage and effectively make them blind at the offset, as portrayed in the much more realistic RAND wargames.
@@fredh8065 this is different invasion is harder than defending, and US forces are pretty bad at urban and jungle warfare, but in this case its a battle of technology.
Stopping the Russian fleet from being able to transit the Bering Strait falls on the Alaska Air National Guard and the USAF contingent in Alaska and the US Navy in Washington State and California.
Translation, the Russian Navy gets sunk because Washington is the home port of many US west coast carriers, and all of those carriers that are undergoing complex maintenance, their air wings are fully combat capable and are within flying distance.
1st the E-2's find them, then the E-18G's blind them rendering their air defense systems useless, then the F/A-18's and P-3 Orion's slaughter them with a hail of Harpoons.
Bro this sounded like the grown up equivalent of playing with dolls
I live in WA, right in the middle of a handful of naval bases and dozens of local ports. We have half a dozen decommissioned ships within sight of my house that could be overhauled into working conditions as well in the Bremerton port!
@@LancesArmorStriking Why do you think the USAF keeps fighters in Alaska? It's a scenario that's been wargamed a lot, it's one in Larry Bond's Harpoon, there is even one for C:MANO
@@pogo1140
I'm aware. I'm just saying the way you described it, came attached with a giddiness that sounded almost childlike. I guess everyone has their hobbies
@@LancesArmorStriking well, in every iterations of that Russia Alaska transit, I've not seen one where a Russian/Soviet surface combatant ever survived long enough to make it past the Aleutians. Not without the US bases in Alaska, Washington, California and Nevada getting nuked 1st.
you forget the us has a large force in korea that could help
He didn't...they have to move beacuse Korea is neutral. He said it in the vid
@@Alex-ft9jy korea may be neutral but American forces stationed there would not be it's like 28k men
He said no allies I think
@@ZKDu he said: the troops stationed in korea have to move to Japan beacuse korea is neutral...did you listen to the vid?
I must of missed that
I mean the threat of mutual annihalation of the entire Northern Hemisphere is what prevents this entire scenario for better and much much worse.
The thing what is missing here is the army quality factor. There is no question that Japanese-US forces are much more competent and less corrupt. the losses in each battle should be 2:1 at least. China and Russia are just too corrupt. You just need to remember the history.
True but you also need to remember how each faction sees and has seen casualties in their campaigns.
Russian and Chinese forces are happy with a 2:1 loss ratio, while the U.S. is very averse to large casualties because the U.S. population would simply not stand for it, the Battle of the Bulge, Iwo Jima, the Tet Offenisve, Korea and more recently Afghanistan have shown that.
In short the Red side only need to cause casualties before the U.S. pulls back due to political pressure.
@@marcofava But then the end of this comparison would be a complete disaster for the reds. Not what this vid implied.
@@konfunable Again it depends of how you view it.
On the global stage not really, especially because it would show that there are limits to how far the U.S. will go for it's allies, exactly like what happened in Vietnam, whether for aversion to losses or fear of further escalation.
They'd need a few tens of thousands American dead and even just a single Super Carrier damaged if not outright sunk to end the idea of the U.S.A. as a global super power.
On another note the Red Side or any nation for that matter has any incentive in fighting a conventional war with the Blue side and if they do it's probably going to be as a diversionary tactic rather than any winning ambition.
With the Bulk of U.S. forces engaged in the Japanese and South China sea there would be nothing stopping the Red side from incentivising the likes of Iran to try their Hand at the Middle East or expanding their influence in south America.
@@marcofava Totally agree about diversionary tactics. but then this scenario would include all the NATO countries and many NATO allies. That becomes so complicated to calculate that there is no reason to speculate. But one thing for sure, it would end up in blue win in any case. But it could be that it would end up like UK's scenarion after WW2 - win the war, but loose the empire.
@@konfunable True NATO would have to be considered, however you have to remember Japan is not a part of NATO but rather a U.S. Ally under entirely different treaties as such legally speaking NATO would not necessarily be required to respond (sort of like Germany did not need to declare war on the U.S. post Pearl Harbour in WW2) and the Red side would pay a lot of attention not to trigger a full NATO response if their sole interest was knocking the USA out of Japan.
Following that the only other major conglomerate of nations that would get involved I think would be the European Union, but since the U.K. is out and they were the main proponents and supporters for U.S. Foreign policy within the Union they are likely to sit it out as well mostly because out of the now big 3 (Italy, Germany and France) none is too inclined to get into a conflict with Russia that may then encroach on European Soil if Russia gets overly triggered, plus only Italy and France have the naval power projection capabilities to realistically lend any aid that far east, and even then it'd be a logistical endeavour of monumental proportions, when they'd probably pressure the Union in staying out and keeping their forces close to home, because if something of the kind was going down a World War would not be that far away.
But you are right, the U.S. would likely win the overall war as far as casualties and material damage is concerned but it would leave them incredibly weak everywhere else.
In this scenario , Japan is the sleeping giant.
We Americans have learned this from the past: To respect, and to never underestimate, the resolve of the Japanese.
Well, so asleep that they forgot to have sex. Each year there are a million fewer Japanese and declining due to their fertility rate of 1.1. This has certain implications for their defence posture. Not near enough young folk to operate their own expensive hardware. They have no social policy to manage migration. In short in a few generations time there will be no Japan as we know it. They will have over a third of their population non citizen residence; their armed forces will be recruited from the Philippines, China, Nigeria and Bangladesh. If push comes to shove the Japanese will have their hands full controlling their own military. I doubt the US Australia and Canada will want to intervene in Japan: except to remove any nuclear weapons they might try to deploy.
Oh China, Russia and Sth Korea will have similar problems but emerge a generation latter. In short the first and last line of defence with be ICBMs.
The era of Biggles is long over.
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Good hypothetical analysis, but as was stated last in the video, there are other players, an attack on USA would invoke NATO...and Russia does not have the means to fight in 2 theaters real time, Then there is the 2 Koreas, Taiwan, Australia, Thailand, Vietnam, India.... A war of this Calibre would quickly escalate to a proper World war, and once pressed hard enough, one of the sides would most certainly use A-weapons, and then the outcome does not matter.
well the purpose of this video was china + russia vs japan + us, obviously there are other players that could happen but thats not this video
I don't think the next world war will involve nukes. My bet is all nuclear powers would fight it out in nonnuclear nations territory. Much like the Russians and Americans did in the cold war but on much larger scale
when i see videos like this its funny because its always U.S againts 2, 3 countries at once lol...
Shit, if you look at budget and number of vessels/weapons/etc, you need at least three to even it out... And that’s just 3 of the more significant militaries. Military complex is outta control here in the good old USA.
@@richardhall1667 lol
@Aseries Lel sure sure, totally didn't hand them their ass in the cold War now did we
@Aseries Lel last time I checked there hasn't been a second 9/11. Also, tell me one country out of the hundreds who have managed to kill an idea. You cannot kill an idea.
@Aseries Lel don't forget we used planes to give food and supplies to millions of Germans who lost their homes. Don't forget that every country we have bombed has been warned. We gave a choice to everyone, but it's my way or the high way. And if a country doesn't have an army, meaning it doesn't have the capability to defend its people, the US is the last to blame. You forget that our warcrimes are dwarfed in front of Asian and European warcrimes. But those don't matter right? Germany totally didn't bomb the fuck out of civilian centers. Even the British targeted civilians. While here the US targets military bases and concentrated groups of soldiers.
Emus vs. Australia plz!!!
How about no
TheSuperQueen emus would win.
It's fair to say australia has some overwhelming firepower at the moment.
Overestimating the enemy has very few downsides compared to underestimating them.
You put a lot of time onto this. We'll done.
Problem for the reds here is submarines and mines. Simply assuming that Chinese could move their amphibious assault assets over to the first island chain without being sunk doesn't take that into account.
Forward to 2021. SOmeone needs to remind Binkov, if US cant even defeat a few Taliban soldiers with outdated AK 47 running on sandals, what makes you think the US can defeat China and Russia COMBINED? lol. Sorry, but this is at the minimum, laughable.
@@fredh8065 There much more to take into account. Remember Russia got whooped by the taliban aswell.
"The Us does have more A-10s"
all I need to know
...and chewing gum per capita.
Oof. A lot of dum-dums in the comments. This is hypothetical. Commissar Binkov does not include nukes because the answer is always "Whoever has the most nukes" and this is just a fun experiment of military prowess.
Who ever has the most nukes doesn't even matter. No body wants to nuke a country that has nukes. Period. Even Pakistan.
I know the scenario is limited for the sake of simplicity, but there’s no way in hell North Korea wouldn’t take advantage of the chaos to attack the South, and same thing with China and Taiwan.
That would be a terrible mistake on North Koreas part. In a conventional fight the South Koreas military would lay waste to the North Koreans armed forces. The ROK is better equipped and trained than the North.
I'll save you 23 minutes. The US would dog walk China and Russia back to the stone age.