I waited for a few reviews of this device and then decided to instead go with the 3+, so that's what I got a few weeks ago. The sticks and analog triggers are cool, but I felt the 16:9 screen had more uses for me than being stuck with a 4:3 only device. Black bars on 4:3 games don't bother me, the start and select button placement that everyone complains about I actually like (though it would be nice if they were two separate buttons instead of a rocker style button.) So now I have a system I can do all of what this one can plus play PSP really well, do GBA bigger, and I can use it to stream from my pc, Xbox, or game pass as well as android native games. Still this device is cool and for anyone looking for a device in this price range that has to have a 4:3 screen this is a great way to go. I agree, though I do hope those sticks make it onto other devices in the future.
im debating now between the 2 myself i just want to know can either download and run old school runescape thats my question and i havent seen anything on yt showing this is it possible?
@@kevOzilla There is an android version and it and I just checked on the Google Play Store, and it says it is compatible with my 3+ so I would assume it is going to work just fine. Now, with that said, I don't know if it has controller support or if you would have to configure it with the touch screen controller configurator or not. It is not a game I have much experience with to be able to help any further, though.
Just got an RP2S. You could say I just downgraded from an Anbernic RG505, but it’s an improvement over the widescreen handhelds in some ways IMO (no disrespect for your choice!). Price is a major factor for me. It feels like I’m working a minimum wage job right now, cutting corners and cooking instead of eating out almost everyday, etc, so my fun budget is limited but I still need entertainment to unwind and projects to occupy myself. The RP2S is just inexpensive and high value. I got lucky, a coworker was basically able to buy my RG505 at original price so I was refunded the difference (food for a week and a half!). Second, design. I don’t really think one bar is more comfortable than another slab in the hand, but my fingers appreciate triggers and a stacked button design more than the somewhat confusing in-line shoulders, and the thumbsticks are nice like the original Dreamcast analog stick (which wasn’t padded, but superior to the N64 and PSX sticks because they had Hall effect sensors, just like the RP2S). This size will also fit in my pocket, actually able to coexist in my front jeans pocket back to back with my phone. The best device is the one you have with you, right? I want to try the PSP library, but honestly widescreen on a small screen is kind of confusing to me. Lastly, and this may be a larger benefit compared to the RG505 than your RP3+, but I really like the idea that I can “dock” the handheld to a TV for an impromptu couch gaming/multiplayer experience. The RP3+ can do this too, but the RG505 cannot, and again the RP2S is cheaper and more portable, and the analog triggers will actually make using this as a Dreamcast emulator/ Modern Console streaming endpoint much better (tho Bluetooth controllers are also an option). PSP and GBA will be fine on a monitor or TV too, though GBA text is big enough that probably that won’t be much of an issue. Anyway, just ranting, probably to myself. Hope we both enjoy good games!
Was looking into buying a rp3+ but stumbled upon a flash sale of the 2s. So ended up buying it for 67 dollar including shipping. Your video makes me excited for it to arrive
I already have a RP3+ but I got the 2S since I've been looking for more performance out of my MM+ and RG35XX recently. RP3+ will be for GBA and PSP mostly and the 2S for any system/game with a 4:3 aspect ratio that it can play. I will also be able to sync my saves with my RP3+ (with Syncthing). It will be so much better than to pull out SD cards all the time to move game saves.
@ImsoloTURK The RP3+ can only play a small number of PS2 games (i.e. dark cloud) and haven't had much luck with wii. Google " RP3+ community compatibility sheet". There's settings there
I hadn't really considered getting on because of having the Retroid Pocket 2+ but I am a little tempted, it looks more comfortable and joysticks seem better from your review. Thanks for the video, love the color choice.
I still don't regret getting the 405m honestly. That half of an inch bigger screen makes a big difference IMO and by the looks of it, it seems easier to pocket too. The only gripe I've got with it is its weight, I wish they'd offer a plastic version (I happen to prefer the haptics of plastic too nowadays honestly, doesn't get as smudgy as metal if that makes sense)
Funny how opinions diverge. The big no for the Anbernic for me was the non stack shoulders. But I agree a 4" screen would be better. Still in love with my RP2S 😊
I really hope they make a successor to the 2s, it wouod be awesokw if they kept everything the same but upgraded to a 4 inch 4:3 or 3:2 or 1:1 screen id be happy with any, and that dimensity 900 from the rp4
I got mine 3 days ago and I been using it for game cube psp and ps2. It takes some time but if you are dedicated to finding everyone's settings you can get it running.
Hey Joey, I’ve been watching the channel for a while now. I always wanted to play games like Luigi’s mansion, but I had no money and if I was to get a handheld it would have to be in the $100 range so I finely decided to get a retroid pocket 2s!
Thank you for the review! I’ve been waiting for someone to compare it with the PS. I was waiting for this review but you just solidified my decision. My poor RG35XX is gonna be jealous now.
I was torn between the 3 plus and the 2s, i was leaning towards the 3 plus till i saw this. Now this seems better put together. If i could get a good deal the rgb30 would be a third choice.
Great review! I've been interested in owning a pocketable retro handheld for a while now, but couldn't justify any big purchases since I already own a Steam Deck that I love. It plays everything I want, it just doesn't fit in my pocket. With the recent Aliexpress sales, I decided to pick up an Anbernic 35XXH for $46 which is a really solid price that packs in a a good amount of performance. The biggest reasons I went with it were because of how small it is while including thumbsticks, and while being vertical. I just got it yesterday and started recording an unboxing when I noticed the screen was glitched with flickering vertical lines, both in game and on the home screen. So, I've decided to send it back and pay a little more for better quality and better performance with the 2S. I'm extremely excited for it because I love the form factor and because of the price to performance ratio. The only thing I wish was that the triggers were a little slimmer so it would be easier to fit in and out of my pockets, but I'll adjust to it. The hardest part is waiting. Can't wait to see what the future holds in these handhelds as they get more powerful, pocketable, and affordable!
It's been over a month, what are you playing more? ... Considering a RP2s over a RP4 to compliant an ROG Ally, mainly for travel, however the lack of capability for new systems (PS2) is making it a tough choice. The Oden 2 just seems so much larger/heavier/expensive for it to be a contender for me personally. Any thoughts?
I love that these handheld Android gaming devices are getting better and better each year. I was going to get one but I decided on the steam deck because paying an extra like 250 bucks was worth it to me.
For those having issues with taking the sd card in n out, you can also just connect the device to your pc via usb C to usb C cable and both internal and SD card show up. I like using the “programable” button as the analog switch button on PlayStation and in some emulators that I cant combine buttons, I use it as a Fast Forward button :D best of wishes to all!
I'm watching because the algorithm recommended it just now and I'm passively in the market for an affordable handheld. Watching your and other's reviews I realize that coming into this hobby through "slapping a controller on an Android phone" has kind of spoiled me. I expect everything to run games as good as a new $75-$100 prepaid phone and then I get disappointed when they inevitably barely top out at PS1. This Pocket 2S seems to be the rare handheld that is both competitive on price and performance with low end phones while giving all the neatness and convenience of being an all-in-one unit. IRT Dreamcast games; my knowledge is basically sports and racing games. Here's a few that I liked; but, aren't ever really used in emulation showcases: "F355 Challenge" is a very faithful port of Sega AM2's Ferrari arcade cabinet. Just because it was an arcade game doesn't mean it was an arcade racer. Far from it. It was about as tough a simulator as the 1990s could make and the graphics are gorgeous upscaled. It took full advantage of the analog triggers and is one of my favorite racers ever. It's also on PS2. It could be just me; but, I don't think that version looks as good. It has a chase cam though. The Dreamcast version didn't because the arcade version didn't, as far as I remember. "Metropolis Street Racer" was the first entry in the 'Project Gotham Racing' series and was a Dreamcast exclusive. It had the kudos system from the later games and a decent selection of cars. The graphics were incredible and the physics were fine. "Tokyo Xtreme Racer" is 'Need For Speed' or 'Fast and Furious' in Tokyo. You've probably played these games on other platforms; but, the Dreamcast versions are very enjoyable. "Sega GT" is 'Gran Turismo 1' with better graphics and floatier handling. It you can make peace with the handling then it's a fine game with tons of CarPG content to offer. "Sega Sports 2K2" are all legitimately great, with the possible exception of the baseball game. Both football games (pro and college) and the NBA game are amazing. Sega's college football game actually modeled my local college stadium. It's a second tier D1 bowl school that always got a generic stadium in EA's NCAA games. Their hockey game is outstanding except every goalie plays like Manny Legace after drinking a whole case of Mountain Dew. Fun fact; 'NHL 2K2' was developed by Treyarch, the 'Call of Duty: Black Ops' dev. The 2K Sports are also some of the toughest games to run on the system because of, I presume, all the physics calculations. "Air Force Delta" is 'Ace Combat' at home. That's very unfair, I guess. It has nice graphics, solid gameplay, and a variety of planes. I sucked at it then and I suck at it now; but I still enjoy revisiting it because it has a certain charm to it. Now off to check out your RP3 video. PS: I thought it was amusing that while you were showing off the screen bonding issue by repeatedly pressing on it, the game playing on-screen was talking about "increasing damage". Intentional joke or happy accident?
Way better looking than the last device you reviewed, that bulky one. Horizontal just seems to work better for dual analog stick devices in terms of aesthetics. I might pick this one up. How much easier/ more challenging is it to set it up including cover art vs the RG35XX??
My RG35XX died. Like totally. No idea what happened. Was going to buy an H as I own a deck but then the lack of PSP and not all N64 library works... So I got one of these. I was considering the 405m at a point but then checking the differences between the T618 and T610 I was feeling a bit like it was not worth to fork out the extra cash. A bit like your conclusion. If you got flawless PS2 and GC on the 405m... Maybe... But if there is a game I really want to play I can always use my deck and this runs pretty much everything else (including Mario Sunshine :D) so yeah. 2S it is.
Thanks for the excellent review Joey. Very helpful and easy to understand. I just ordered one. I realized my Miyoo Mini Plus was too uncomfortable to use with any games that required triggers. I'm excited to play GBA, SNES, PS1, and N64 comfortably. I'll keep my Miyoo around for GB, GBC, and NES if I want something smaller and more portable than this new 2S. Cheers.
I appreciate the informative video. I have watched a ton of videos on a handful of devices over the last few days and your channel has been the one I have enjoyed the most. I am finding this whole retro handheld scene to be overwhelming and honestly a bit frustrating. I wanted to trade up from my comically small miyoo mini because I basically never use it, but its hard to figure out if I am throwing good money after bad here.
Glad you got the best color, just need to replace those skittles buttons. I am super excited to see this kind of performance to price. Definitely seems like the budget standard going forward.
Hand cramp is real. No only is the screen way too small for me, the bigger issue is my hands cramping with small devices. Anything longer than 10 minutes and my hands have had enough. If the screen is under 5"... its not for me and never will be. To each their own
Hey, I get it, everyone has their preferences. I will say I didn't get hand cramps here, but I could see why someone would. I'm very susceptible to hand cramps.
Anbernic added that fan for a reason. I’m unsure if it actually helps, but if you’re playing demanding games, your screen is eventually going to pop out. Finally happened to my RG405M today. It can play PS2 games at a cost.
By the way there is a retro handheld that plays n64 dream cast and bellow flawlessly the GameCube emulation needs some work though but it is for only 74 dollars it’s called the rgb30
It's an excellent device. But the screen size doesn't fit for me since I play mostly psp, ps2, ds, 3ds and streaming. The rp2s seems to be perfect for GBA, GB, GBC, SNES and neo geo games.
I went with the RG405M instead. I own many retro handhelds and several from retroid themselves. They make great hardware but imho all of them had flaws that make it less fun to use over time. For me the rp2+ was a game changer. So much performance on such a small package. I played it non stop for a month and thought it was going to be the end game.... But then things started piling up. The dpad is just too stiff. Too hard to press. The buttons are tiny. After the second month I shelved the damn thing and havent touched it since. I had a similar experience with the rp3+ and after the honey moon period I still use it as its not as flawed as the 2+ but its not a device I love personally. I had the 2s in my cart and even bought it but refunded it. I just know retroid is going to piss me with something I picked the 405m instead because anbernic imho has the best dpad and face buttons in the space. The added 0.5" of screen make a HUGE difference in text legibility and eye strain as well. Honestly I dont think I can go back to a 3.5" device other than like a mini plus or 35xx for portability sake. The 2s has huge bezels. They really should have found a 4 inch screen. Anyways I am very happy with the 405m so far. Only had it for about a week and im harassing anbernic to send me new sticks since mine make the famous clicking sound. Other than that the damn thing just feels GOOD to play. I booted alien hominid on the ps2 and it was just a Joy to play. The added screen space also makes psp and other 16:9 systems at the edge of playable. Psp is worth less on a 3.5" screen imho and its such a good system. So yeah the 2s has an amazing price but for my money the 405m was the better purchase. I wish there was a dpad on top plastic variant though...
The right trigger on my RP2S sunk in. After a bit of inspection apparently the spring had snapped. I decided to swap both L and R trigger springs for PS4 dualshock springs but although it did do the trick, I am concerned and a bit disappointed with the quality of the device.
Appreciate all the work you put into making this video. With all the devices out there, I'm finding it so difficult to find the right one for me. Really I primarily want to play Pokémon rom hacks, but I also love Simpsons hit and run and Mario Kart double dash. Gah, there's too many options at the moment 😅
@@JoeysRetroHandheldsFirst world problems, right?? It's not a bad thing that there's so much competition because it means these companies keep innovating and giving us the best prices! I'll get one eventually 🤞
This under $100 thing needs to stop I just ordered the 4gb ram model and it was $146 even if I would have gotten the 3gb ram model it was still going to be $130. So no one is buying this under $100. Under $100 what is looking good is the R36s the rg35xx.
Hey, thanks so much for the review dude! I'm just jumping into the world of retro handhelds(seems like a great time after researching releases this year) & have been doing a lot of research in just the past week or so. Reddit, Discord, TH-cam Reviews... Watched quite a bit of your videos along with a few other channels to glean info & perspective. I wanted to ask you. Do you think this would run N64 ROM Hacks well? Like SM64, Zelda, and Banjo 🤔 There's some very very good hacks of those N64 games that I've played & streamed with my 8 year old laptop. If it can run 'some' GC, PS2, Wii, 3DS, I would like to think it could run N64 ROM Hacks 🤔 But idk; wanted to know if you had any ideas/thoughts 👍 Thanks in advance! 🙏 I'm looking to pick one up as a surprise for one of my childhood friends I've been friends with for over 20 years 😎 We've both played lots of video games over the years & hopefully he'll think something like this is cool! And then probably getting one for myself too. I think he'll really like it! I was looking at this device and watching & waiting for the different reviews to come out, with people's thoughts on the RP2S. Besides the screen size being a bit small doesn't seem like it has many qualms... Also, did you test out the micro HDMI out on a TV/Monitor? And if so how'd you like it 🙂 I read it displays 480p in 3:2 aspect ratio or something, compared to the 4:3 of the device's display.
Hey! Thanks for the comment. It should play N64 romhacks just fine, can't think of any reason it wouldn't since it plays every other N64 game already. As for the hdmi out, that's something I didn't test since it's not something I'd use personally, but I think RetroGameCorps did IIRC.
Of course! Alright, sweet. I was thinking so too. The ROM Hacks are a little more taxing than native N64 hardware can handle at times/a bunch not being console compatible. But I figured this was enough of a leap in power to emulate & run them just fine. Guess I'll find out if I pick one of these up and configure + test it. Based on your mainly portable use case for smaller screen devices, I was assuming you wouldn't be using the micro HDMI out much. But just was wondering if you tested it at all. I think I saw 2 others test it 🤔 So I can go off those for a "console" experience, unless I see even more from other reviewers. Thanks again, and have a good one man!
Have you by any chance come across the R35S? Seen them fluttering about online for like £50-60 and they look excellent. A similar device to the 35XX and miyoo mini plus. It's a really decent little handheld for a bargain price.
Hey Joey love the content brother keep it up!!! As you get more and more handhelds in for testing would you consider running geekbench on each of them to show their performance scores?
I'm NGL I REALLY hate this Form-Factor it's basically a Brick with Buttons on it. After my dreadful experience with the Original Retroid Pocket 2 my hands start to cramp up everytime I touch a Handheld with this Form-Factor. They could have at least tapered or more preferably rounded off the edges to make it more like a Candy Bar. However they just continued the Flat Brick with Buttons design. 😕
I remember long ago seeing you comment something similar about the original RP2, so to complete the cycle I'm here to give a similar reply where I mention I love it (still use the old one!) and add that I'm excited to finally have a model with the d-pad in the correct location
Wait i saw a menu that says screenshot and record, you mean we can record our gameplay ?? If so how many seconds and can we share to twitter directly?????
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds That's understandable. High praise for the PS though if its still in your mind as these new devices keep dropping every week haha! Thanks for the reply :)
I dont think start and select buttons should be a viable or necessary nitpick. The pocket 2s start/select is just fine, nothing amazing and criticism is valid but thats not gonna factor into anyone's decision about buying these devices..
Hi all, is there any console in the market with as good buttons but with a bigger screen ? I'm new to this kind of product and tempted to get my 1st one. I never got one between my hand, but the most important factor to me is the quality of button/sticks and it seems they are great in this one (especially the sticks and R2/L2). I'm also looking for one that has TV output to have the true feeling that I'm actually playing Nes, Snes etc., so it's a deal breaker for the anbernic 405M.
I just saw it was 300$ so yes😬, unless there's a great discount during black friday. My max is 150$ but I could be tempted going a bit above if I see an incredible device
Hey, one question, is it possible to connect 2 of these and play multiplayer games with somebody else? maybe is a stupid question haha, I just want to know
I waited for a few reviews of this device and then decided to instead go with the 3+, so that's what I got a few weeks ago. The sticks and analog triggers are cool, but I felt the 16:9 screen had more uses for me than being stuck with a 4:3 only device. Black bars on 4:3 games don't bother me, the start and select button placement that everyone complains about I actually like (though it would be nice if they were two separate buttons instead of a rocker style button.) So now I have a system I can do all of what this one can plus play PSP really well, do GBA bigger, and I can use it to stream from my pc, Xbox, or game pass as well as android native games. Still this device is cool and for anyone looking for a device in this price range that has to have a 4:3 screen this is a great way to go. I agree, though I do hope those sticks make it onto other devices in the future.
im debating now between the 2 myself i just want to know can either download and run old school runescape thats my question and i havent seen anything on yt showing this is it possible?
@@kevOzilla There is an android version and it and I just checked on the Google Play Store, and it says it is compatible with my 3+ so I would assume it is going to work just fine. Now, with that said, I don't know if it has controller support or if you would have to configure it with the touch screen controller configurator or not. It is not a game I have much experience with to be able to help any further, though.
ok thank you so much for that! most likely ill have to config i will go with the 3+ thanks again pal@@DonaldWyman
Just got an RP2S. You could say I just downgraded from an Anbernic RG505, but it’s an improvement over the widescreen handhelds in some ways IMO (no disrespect for your choice!).
Price is a major factor for me. It feels like I’m working a minimum wage job right now, cutting corners and cooking instead of eating out almost everyday, etc, so my fun budget is limited but I still need entertainment to unwind and projects to occupy myself. The RP2S is just inexpensive and high value. I got lucky, a coworker was basically able to buy my RG505 at original price so I was refunded the difference (food for a week and a half!).
Second, design. I don’t really think one bar is more comfortable than another slab in the hand, but my fingers appreciate triggers and a stacked button design more than the somewhat confusing in-line shoulders, and the thumbsticks are nice like the original Dreamcast analog stick (which wasn’t padded, but superior to the N64 and PSX sticks because they had Hall effect sensors, just like the RP2S). This size will also fit in my pocket, actually able to coexist in my front jeans pocket back to back with my phone. The best device is the one you have with you, right? I want to try the PSP library, but honestly widescreen on a small screen is kind of confusing to me.
Lastly, and this may be a larger benefit compared to the RG505 than your RP3+, but I really like the idea that I can “dock” the handheld to a TV for an impromptu couch gaming/multiplayer experience. The RP3+ can do this too, but the RG505 cannot, and again the RP2S is cheaper and more portable, and the analog triggers will actually make using this as a Dreamcast emulator/ Modern Console streaming endpoint much better (tho Bluetooth controllers are also an option). PSP and GBA will be fine on a monitor or TV too, though GBA text is big enough that probably that won’t be much of an issue.
Anyway, just ranting, probably to myself. Hope we both enjoy good games!
Was looking into buying a rp3+ but stumbled upon a flash sale of the 2s. So ended up buying it for 67 dollar including shipping. Your video makes me excited for it to arrive
I bought one 5 days ago! Even more hyped to get it after this review! Thanks for the rundown
U think u could help me with the right link to buy the rp2s
I already have a RP3+ but I got the 2S since I've been looking for more performance out of my MM+ and RG35XX recently. RP3+ will be for GBA and PSP mostly and the 2S for any system/game with a 4:3 aspect ratio that it can play. I will also be able to sync my saves with my RP3+ (with Syncthing). It will be so much better than to pull out SD cards all the time to move game saves.
hi there. i have rp3+ too. is there any special settings for ps2 and wii ? i dont get decent performance
@ImsoloTURK The RP3+ can only play a small number of PS2 games (i.e. dark cloud) and haven't had much luck with wii. Google " RP3+ community compatibility sheet". There's settings there
I hadn't really considered getting on because of having the Retroid Pocket 2+ but I am a little tempted, it looks more comfortable and joysticks seem better from your review. Thanks for the video, love the color choice.
I still don't regret getting the 405m honestly. That half of an inch bigger screen makes a big difference IMO and by the looks of it, it seems easier to pocket too. The only gripe I've got with it is its weight, I wish they'd offer a plastic version (I happen to prefer the haptics of plastic too nowadays honestly, doesn't get as smudgy as metal if that makes sense)
Yep, shouldn't be a regret at all, this just is a better option for those that don't have the 405M yet. (and can deal with the screen)
Funny how opinions diverge. The big no for the Anbernic for me was the non stack shoulders. But I agree a 4" screen would be better. Still in love with my RP2S 😊
I really hope they make a successor to the 2s, it wouod be awesokw if they kept everything the same but upgraded to a 4 inch 4:3 or 3:2 or 1:1 screen id be happy with any, and that dimensity 900 from the rp4
I got mine 3 days ago and I been using it for game cube psp and ps2. It takes some time but if you are dedicated to finding everyone's settings you can get it running.
How long did it take to arrive?
whats the best way to finf optimal settings?
Hey Joey, I’ve been watching the channel for a while now. I always wanted to play games like Luigi’s mansion, but I had no money and if I was to get a handheld it would have to be in the $100 range so I finely decided to get a retroid pocket 2s!
Awesome!
Thank you for the review! I’ve been waiting for someone to compare it with the PS. I was waiting for this review but you just solidified my decision. My poor RG35XX is gonna be jealous now.
I was torn between the 3 plus and the 2s, i was leaning towards the 3 plus till i saw this. Now this seems better put together. If i could get a good deal the rgb30 would be a third choice.
Great review! I've been interested in owning a pocketable retro handheld for a while now, but couldn't justify any big purchases since I already own a Steam Deck that I love. It plays everything I want, it just doesn't fit in my pocket. With the recent Aliexpress sales, I decided to pick up an Anbernic 35XXH for $46 which is a really solid price that packs in a a good amount of performance. The biggest reasons I went with it were because of how small it is while including thumbsticks, and while being vertical. I just got it yesterday and started recording an unboxing when I noticed the screen was glitched with flickering vertical lines, both in game and on the home screen.
So, I've decided to send it back and pay a little more for better quality and better performance with the 2S. I'm extremely excited for it because I love the form factor and because of the price to performance ratio. The only thing I wish was that the triggers were a little slimmer so it would be easier to fit in and out of my pockets, but I'll adjust to it. The hardest part is waiting.
Can't wait to see what the future holds in these handhelds as they get more powerful, pocketable, and affordable!
Oo you're going to love it! Report back when you get it with thoughts :)
It's in the mail and it's my first budget handheld.
It should be great!
It's been over a month, what are you playing more? ... Considering a RP2s over a RP4 to compliant an ROG Ally, mainly for travel, however the lack of capability for new systems (PS2) is making it a tough choice. The Oden 2 just seems so much larger/heavier/expensive for it to be a contender for me personally. Any thoughts?
I love that these handheld Android gaming devices are getting better and better each year. I was going to get one but I decided on the steam deck because paying an extra like 250 bucks was worth it to me.
Yep mine has a dodgy display also. Its not just you bud. Awesom video👍
Mines just came in I LOVE THIS THING!
For those having issues with taking the sd card in n out, you can also just connect the device to your pc via usb C to usb C cable and both internal and SD card show up. I like using the “programable” button as the analog switch button on PlayStation and in some emulators that I cant combine buttons, I use it as a Fast Forward button :D best of wishes to all!
Thanks for the compatibility spreadsheet!
I'm watching because the algorithm recommended it just now and I'm passively in the market for an affordable handheld. Watching your and other's reviews I realize that coming into this hobby through "slapping a controller on an Android phone" has kind of spoiled me. I expect everything to run games as good as a new $75-$100 prepaid phone and then I get disappointed when they inevitably barely top out at PS1. This Pocket 2S seems to be the rare handheld that is both competitive on price and performance with low end phones while giving all the neatness and convenience of being an all-in-one unit.
IRT Dreamcast games; my knowledge is basically sports and racing games. Here's a few that I liked; but, aren't ever really used in emulation showcases:
"F355 Challenge" is a very faithful port of Sega AM2's Ferrari arcade cabinet. Just because it was an arcade game doesn't mean it was an arcade racer. Far from it. It was about as tough a simulator as the 1990s could make and the graphics are gorgeous upscaled. It took full advantage of the analog triggers and is one of my favorite racers ever. It's also on PS2. It could be just me; but, I don't think that version looks as good. It has a chase cam though. The Dreamcast version didn't because the arcade version didn't, as far as I remember.
"Metropolis Street Racer" was the first entry in the 'Project Gotham Racing' series and was a Dreamcast exclusive. It had the kudos system from the later games and a decent selection of cars. The graphics were incredible and the physics were fine.
"Tokyo Xtreme Racer" is 'Need For Speed' or 'Fast and Furious' in Tokyo. You've probably played these games on other platforms; but, the Dreamcast versions are very enjoyable.
"Sega GT" is 'Gran Turismo 1' with better graphics and floatier handling. It you can make peace with the handling then it's a fine game with tons of CarPG content to offer.
"Sega Sports 2K2" are all legitimately great, with the possible exception of the baseball game. Both football games (pro and college) and the NBA game are amazing. Sega's college football game actually modeled my local college stadium. It's a second tier D1 bowl school that always got a generic stadium in EA's NCAA games. Their hockey game is outstanding except every goalie plays like Manny Legace after drinking a whole case of Mountain Dew. Fun fact; 'NHL 2K2' was developed by Treyarch, the 'Call of Duty: Black Ops' dev. The 2K Sports are also some of the toughest games to run on the system because of, I presume, all the physics calculations.
"Air Force Delta" is 'Ace Combat' at home. That's very unfair, I guess. It has nice graphics, solid gameplay, and a variety of planes. I sucked at it then and I suck at it now; but I still enjoy revisiting it because it has a certain charm to it.
Now off to check out your RP3 video. PS: I thought it was amusing that while you were showing off the screen bonding issue by repeatedly pressing on it, the game playing on-screen was talking about "increasing damage". Intentional joke or happy accident?
Amigo! Great video a buy one and i just cant wait to play NG4 and Ps0ne!
Saludos desde Mexico
Way better looking than the last device you reviewed, that bulky one. Horizontal just seems to work better for dual analog stick devices in terms of aesthetics. I might pick this one up. How much easier/ more challenging is it to set it up including cover art vs the RG35XX??
Cover art automatically sets up in retroid launcher or daijiso
I love my Retroid pocket 3+. sorry to hear you didn't like it. Its a great handheld.
..but I got the Flip and I like that... video on that soon :D
Just ordered one via your affiliate link - hope it helps, and thanks for the fantastic video!
Appreciate that! Enjoy the device, it's awesome.
My RG35XX died. Like totally. No idea what happened. Was going to buy an H as I own a deck but then the lack of PSP and not all N64 library works... So I got one of these. I was considering the 405m at a point but then checking the differences between the T618 and T610 I was feeling a bit like it was not worth to fork out the extra cash. A bit like your conclusion. If you got flawless PS2 and GC on the 405m... Maybe... But if there is a game I really want to play I can always use my deck and this runs pretty much everything else (including Mario Sunshine :D) so yeah. 2S it is.
Retroid is selling this at crackhead prices! If you only have a 100 to spend then this just blows everything else out the water at that price.
Thanks for the excellent review Joey. Very helpful and easy to understand. I just ordered one. I realized my Miyoo Mini Plus was too uncomfortable to use with any games that required triggers. I'm excited to play GBA, SNES, PS1, and N64 comfortably. I'll keep my Miyoo around for GB, GBC, and NES if I want something smaller and more portable than this new 2S. Cheers.
I appreciate the informative video. I have watched a ton of videos on a handful of devices over the last few days and your channel has been the one I have enjoyed the most.
I am finding this whole retro handheld scene to be overwhelming and honestly a bit frustrating. I wanted to trade up from my comically small miyoo mini because I basically never use it, but its hard to figure out if I am throwing good money after bad here.
Appreciate that praise! It really depends what you're looking for, but it's super hard to think of a reason this device wouldn't make sense for you.
Glad you got the best color, just need to replace those skittles buttons. I am super excited to see this kind of performance to price. Definitely seems like the budget standard going forward.
Where's the ban button..
i am watching it to see if i want to buy it
I'm in once I get 100% gamecube + PS2. Hopefully Retroid 4 will do it!
It won't be cheap. 😐
Like seeing other gamers take on this, I got 2 of them last week. The 2 + was my first all in one handheld, I can't wait to see the differences.
I have one. I really like it so far.
If they had put those sticks and the guts of the RP2S inside a 353PS shell it would be the perfect device for everything up to the Dreamcast.
YES
Salt and Sanctuary works great on the RP2S for Switch
Any other switch games you know of?
"Getting that out of the way to prove that I'm not in Retroid's pocket" get out bro 🤣🤣
😂
Great quality review as always! 🎉
Thanks Archi!
Interesting choices for ps2 games.
I appreciate you using something other than GoW for the test
I’m really enjoying my RG35XX H but if they release a new version of the 2s I’ll definitely consider picking it up.
Hand cramp is real. No only is the screen way too small for me, the bigger issue is my hands cramping with small devices. Anything longer than 10 minutes and my hands have had enough. If the screen is under 5"... its not for me and never will be. To each their own
Hey, I get it, everyone has their preferences. I will say I didn't get hand cramps here, but I could see why someone would. I'm very susceptible to hand cramps.
yep depends on ur hand size, and how flexible your hands are, I cant grip narrow handhelds that well either.
You can get grips for this to make it much bigger and more comfortable.
Anbernic added that fan for a reason. I’m unsure if it actually helps, but if you’re playing demanding games, your screen is eventually going to pop out. Finally happened to my RG405M today. It can play PS2 games at a cost.
I think I’ll get this just because of how cheap and powerful this is great review:)
By the way there is a retro handheld that plays n64 dream cast and bellow flawlessly the GameCube emulation needs some work though but it is for only 74 dollars it’s called the rgb30
Pretty well isn't perfect. IMO saying the RGB30 can play N64 and DC is the same as saying the RP2S can play GC and PS2.
It's an excellent device. But the screen size doesn't fit for me since I play mostly psp, ps2, ds, 3ds and streaming. The rp2s seems to be perfect for GBA, GB, GBC, SNES and neo geo games.
Thanks for this review
Good review as always!
if this had the rgb30s screen it would be the goat handheld
I went with the RG405M instead.
I own many retro handhelds and several from retroid themselves. They make great hardware but imho all of them had flaws that make it less fun to use over time.
For me the rp2+ was a game changer. So much performance on such a small package. I played it non stop for a month and thought it was going to be the end game.... But then things started piling up. The dpad is just too stiff. Too hard to press. The buttons are tiny. After the second month I shelved the damn thing and havent touched it since. I had a similar experience with the rp3+ and after the honey moon period I still use it as its not as flawed as the 2+ but its not a device I love personally.
I had the 2s in my cart and even bought it but refunded it. I just know retroid is going to piss me with something
I picked the 405m instead because anbernic imho has the best dpad and face buttons in the space. The added 0.5" of screen make a HUGE difference in text legibility and eye strain as well. Honestly I dont think I can go back to a 3.5" device other than like a mini plus or 35xx for portability sake.
The 2s has huge bezels. They really should have found a 4 inch screen.
Anyways I am very happy with the 405m so far. Only had it for about a week and im harassing anbernic to send me new sticks since mine make the famous clicking sound. Other than that the damn thing just feels GOOD to play.
I booted alien hominid on the ps2 and it was just a Joy to play. The added screen space also makes psp and other 16:9 systems at the edge of playable.
Psp is worth less on a 3.5" screen imho and its such a good system.
So yeah the 2s has an amazing price but for my money the 405m was the better purchase. I wish there was a dpad on top plastic variant though...
By the way just so you know the rg405m has had some major screen issues like the screen falling out or breaking.
@@aishacsive had to replace the screen of my rp2+ and rp3+. Welcome to china?
Yaay I just bought this ❤
Great video, you deserve a sub!
So it's good to PSP, which at that point either the screen is too small (PSP) or the running of the games becomes unoptimized.
The right trigger on my RP2S sunk in. After a bit of inspection apparently the spring had snapped. I decided to swap both L and R trigger springs for PS4 dualshock springs but although it did do the trick, I am concerned and a bit disappointed with the quality of the device.
Awesome review! Hopefully, you will also do an in-depth setup guide for this. Cheers!
great review
Yet an another review to hype me up until it ships to my house
I got a RP2+ used off eBay with a ton of games, but Dolphin makes all my GC games crash
Appreciate all the work you put into making this video. With all the devices out there, I'm finding it so difficult to find the right one for me. Really I primarily want to play Pokémon rom hacks, but I also love Simpsons hit and run and Mario Kart double dash. Gah, there's too many options at the moment 😅
So. Many. Options. Haha
@@JoeysRetroHandheldsFirst world problems, right?? It's not a bad thing that there's so much competition because it means these companies keep innovating and giving us the best prices! I'll get one eventually 🤞
At some point, just dive right in!
which is you recommended for 1st console that i will buy . RG405v , RG405m or RPS2? Thank you more power
Good choice on Rayman 2
Looks great. I just don't think it does enough different from 405m for the buy.
If you have the RG405M then yeah, if you don't, this is the better buy so far.
What Retroid performance setting did you use for N64? Balanced, Performance, or Extreme cause I'm planning to play N64 and Dreamcast on Performance
This under $100 thing needs to stop I just ordered the 4gb ram model and it was $146 even if I would have gotten the 3gb ram model it was still going to be $130. So no one is buying this under $100. Under $100 what is looking good is the R36s the rg35xx.
Can't account for every single region and country. It's $114 shipped in NA for the 3GB.
Hey, thanks so much for the review dude! I'm just jumping into the world of retro handhelds(seems like a great time after researching releases this year) & have been doing a lot of research in just the past week or so. Reddit, Discord, TH-cam Reviews... Watched quite a bit of your videos along with a few other channels to glean info & perspective.
I wanted to ask you. Do you think this would run N64 ROM Hacks well? Like SM64, Zelda, and Banjo 🤔 There's some very very good hacks of those N64 games that I've played & streamed with my 8 year old laptop. If it can run 'some' GC, PS2, Wii, 3DS, I would like to think it could run N64 ROM Hacks 🤔 But idk; wanted to know if you had any ideas/thoughts 👍 Thanks in advance! 🙏
I'm looking to pick one up as a surprise for one of my childhood friends I've been friends with for over 20 years 😎 We've both played lots of video games over the years & hopefully he'll think something like this is cool! And then probably getting one for myself too. I think he'll really like it!
I was looking at this device and watching & waiting for the different reviews to come out, with people's thoughts on the RP2S. Besides the screen size being a bit small doesn't seem like it has many qualms... Also, did you test out the micro HDMI out on a TV/Monitor? And if so how'd you like it 🙂 I read it displays 480p in 3:2 aspect ratio or something, compared to the 4:3 of the device's display.
Hey! Thanks for the comment. It should play N64 romhacks just fine, can't think of any reason it wouldn't since it plays every other N64 game already. As for the hdmi out, that's something I didn't test since it's not something I'd use personally, but I think RetroGameCorps did IIRC.
Of course! Alright, sweet. I was thinking so too. The ROM Hacks are a little more taxing than native N64 hardware can handle at times/a bunch not being console compatible. But I figured this was enough of a leap in power to emulate & run them just fine. Guess I'll find out if I pick one of these up and configure + test it.
Based on your mainly portable use case for smaller screen devices, I was assuming you wouldn't be using the micro HDMI out much. But just was wondering if you tested it at all. I think I saw 2 others test it 🤔 So I can go off those for a "console" experience, unless I see even more from other reviewers.
Thanks again, and have a good one man!
I want this device with the screen from the PowKiddy X55
the reason animal crossing works so well on so many handhelds is because its literally just emulating a n64 game
Still uses over 6GB of RAM compared to others.
Have you by any chance come across the R35S? Seen them fluttering about online for like £50-60 and they look excellent. A similar device to the 35XX and miyoo mini plus. It's a really decent little handheld for a bargain price.
Yep, ordered mine a few weeks ago! Should be arriving this week. We'll see!
do the joystick caps come off? That drove me nuts on the previous model
Hey Joey love the content brother keep it up!!! As you get more and more handhelds in for testing would you consider running geekbench on each of them to show their performance scores?
Hey! Thanks! That one I might stay away from, personally don't find them useful to be honest and more techtuber in nature than I want to be.
You should play the greatest hidden gem game on the 64, Buck Bumble!
I have the miyoo mini plus, is it really worth getting this too or just use my iPhone or iPad for n64?
Hard to make that decision for you.
So mad rn last week i just bought the powkiddy x55 and this seems better 😭
Yep that happens a lot lol
citra canary using vulkan backend runs at full speed btw way better than dolphin mmjr
I'm NGL I REALLY hate this Form-Factor it's basically a Brick with Buttons on it. After my dreadful experience with the Original Retroid Pocket 2 my hands start to cramp up everytime I touch a Handheld with this Form-Factor. They could have at least tapered or more preferably rounded off the edges to make it more like a Candy Bar. However they just continued the Flat Brick with Buttons design. 😕
Get a grip, figuratively and literally.
The one is a lot more rounded. Especially at the triggers. It’s pretty comfy to hold, with and without the sticks
I remember long ago seeing you comment something similar about the original RP2, so to complete the cycle I'm here to give a similar reply where I mention I love it (still use the old one!) and add that I'm excited to finally have a model with the d-pad in the correct location
A larger screen would have helped this and other problems.
@@FoughtimorI might try the RP2S, but can't find a niche for it right now.
So if I wanted to play Windwaker and Fire Emblem, Path of Radiance, what would be the best device for me???
The new upcoming Retroid Pocket 4!
Wait i saw a menu that says screenshot and record, you mean we can record our gameplay ?? If so how many seconds and can we share to twitter directly?????
I'm curious if you still bust out the RG353ps for 2D stuff because of its comfort, or if you shifted to just do all of that on the RP2s as well?
Hah, I was going through this dilemma a weeks ago. I don't have a winner still, I sort of go through both. 2S usually wins because of cloud syncing.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds That's understandable. High praise for the PS though if its still in your mind as these new devices keep dropping every week haha! Thanks for the reply :)
Oh yeah, I love the PS/P models, they're so good.
Would you recommend that over a Powkiddy RGB30?
Always, yes.
Does it have a microphone?
So the 2S came out after the 3 Plus? Or have I misunderstood that?
It just seems like a bizarre naming scheme.
It did yep, lol
I like it but I hate the loud buttons. Miyoo Mini Plus got better buttons
I dont think start and select buttons should be a viable or necessary nitpick. The pocket 2s start/select is just fine, nothing amazing and criticism is valid but thats not gonna factor into anyone's decision about buying these devices..
You'd be surprised what factors into people's buying decisions and start and select button issues is 100% a viable criticism.
So it's been a month, which are you playing more? ;)
Working on that video!
Hi all, is there any console in the market with as good buttons but with a bigger screen ?
I'm new to this kind of product and tempted to get my 1st one. I never got one between my hand, but the most important factor to me is the quality of button/sticks and it seems they are great in this one (especially the sticks and R2/L2).
I'm also looking for one that has TV output to have the true feeling that I'm actually playing Nes, Snes etc., so it's a deal breaker for the anbernic 405M.
Is the Odin 2 out of your range?
I just saw it was 300$ so yes😬, unless there's a great discount during black friday. My max is 150$ but I could be tempted going a bit above if I see an incredible device
Then unfortunately this is sort of the best option in that price point.
Where did you get the case??
th-cam.com/video/wSL65QZGprc/w-d-xo.html
What about sega Saturn?
Hey, one question, is it possible to connect 2 of these and play multiplayer games with somebody else? maybe is a stupid question haha, I just want to know
Hey, retroarch net play would be what you'd want, if you want to look into it. It should be possible.
Does anyone know where I can buy a preloaded SD card?
are l2 and r2 analog or just on and off.... do any of these devices have a analog l2r2
Should watch the video.
baba is you has an android version, many android games can be played.
Nice.
Is there a 4.5"+ version of this? Looks perfect but I think I'd need a bigger screen.
17:20 that little dude f***ed you up
I lost my skills in my old age.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds 😆 speaking of old, what retro handheld would you say is the best for old skool 8bit NES?
Honestly anything, NES works on anything and everything. Cheapest I'd go would be the Miyoo Mini Plus.
Hey there, I´ve got 2 questions that I hope you could answer. Is this the same handheld as the 2 plus and is the 3+ better than the 2s/2+?
This is so random but could i play pokemon rom hacks on something like this or a miyoo mini plus
Either yep, I did a video on Pokemon romhacks on the Miyoo Mini Plus a few weeks back.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds watching it rn thanks!! for the limitless content I've been doing oil changes just binge watching your vids at work lol
Hahah, awesome! You're welcome.
Why it seem like the screen was getting amaller lol
Will it run goldeneye 007 and some of the sports games? Madden, nba, nfl blitz, nhl hitz, etc..
Is it better then the RG35XX H?
Yes, and it isn't even close.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds Oh wow...I might have to snag it then and return this RG35XX H
disagree about grip pads - they'll degrade and get nasty over time
How long did it take to arrive with 4px
10 days.
Ok thanks so much! Definitely recommending you to my friends and family!
Hows it compare to the rgb30?
2S is better in every way.
@JoeysRetroHandhelds the screen seems like it might have been better has usbc for fast charging and seemed decent over all.
I really like the official grips on the 2s which sold me on it. The rgb30 I really do like though.
How well does this run Mario Kart Double Dash and Smash Melee?