I love your series and your site!!! I love our Lord Jesus and our Catholic Church!!! I love the Eucharist, our Lord's precious body and blood!!! I love our Blessed Mother!!! I love saying the rosary!!! I love my Guardian Angel for putting up with my sorry butt!!! God bless us everyone!!!
So nice to see you here on youtube, John. We greatly appreciate all the things you do for the church. You inspire many people to know and defend their faith. May God give you good health and long life. The church need a person like you. God bless you and your family and take care. ~ from Philippines.
Another question Protestants Can't Answer is - Was Virgin Mary Needed for Our Salvation? I know this to be fact that they can't answer this question, I recently went on a protestant forum and I put this question to them, many wrote back however all went around the question, saying you know the usual that I / we Catholics Worship Mary, then a few days later I was booted of their Protestant forum, they did me a favor lol They could not answer YES, for fear of answering yes, would then make them a Catholic and that Virgin Mary is Co-Redemptrix The could not answer NO! Because they can not hide the Fact that God wanted His Son to be born of Virgin Mary, therefore obviously by the power of God Virgin Mary was needed for Our Salvation.
Pontius Pilot was also needed for our salvation. I don't think that we should worship him. I don't want to be confrontational, and I understand what you are saying, but why do you place so much value on Mary? Why not David? That fact remains that Mary was a human. Jesus should be where our focus is. God put Mary in teh Bible so that we could learn. The same reason He have us Ruth, Esther, David, Esther, Jonah, etc.
If you don't understand the importance of Mary, I wonder you will ever understand the importance of Jesus. You can't equate Mary with Pontius Pilate or David or anyone else.
Autumn Wilson mary was the first and greatest disciple. We learn from her. she is a great role model. Jesus gives her a special place in heaven, as he honors her greatly. she will forever be the mother of God bc of her choice and Gods love for us. mary has no place superceding Jesus in any way but rather helping us sinners turn back toward him. in this sense, she is a spiritual mother. do you know Martin Luther had a devotion to mary up until his death?
Nobody worships Mary, we give her honor as scripture says she will be called Blessed forever, just like in america you are big into given honor to the founders, even building statues of them-We know ur just givin them the honor due them, so as Mary is the Mother of God and as we know death cannot separate us from the love of God, Mary been part of the Mystical Body of Christ is someone whose prayers we can ask for just like we do ask our friends to pray for us. We know they intercede for us as we see both the saints and angels in Heaven bringing the prayers of the angels & saints to Jesus and afterward there is thunder & lighting which is showing us God's response to these intercessions. We know they are intercessory prayers as we read that the prayers of the saints are mixed with those of the angels, so the angels and saints in Heaven are bringing our prayers to the Lamb & also the prayers are mixed with incense and all the singing and liturgy is that of the Mass so John is seen the Mass from Heaven, which is prophesied in Mal 1:11....YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR BIBLE WITH YOU TO MASS SOMETIME AND READ REVELATION WHILE LISTENING TO THE MASS
All these hateful, confusing comments... Jesus established one church, with leadership authority, just to avoid such division. God is not the author of chaos. The one church has imperfect people, i.e. sinners, in it, but it is forever his Body. The beauty and fullness of His universal (Catholic) church has all the means of grace that He intended for us. I will never leave because I believe Him: "and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it." Ignorance breeds Protestants.
Thanks John! You don't know how much we have been learning about our Catholic faith because of your mission. May God continue to bless you so you can reach more Catholics as well as non-Catholics. .
Gal. 2:16, "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified." Rom. 3:28-30, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one." Works based salvation takes away from what Jesus did on the cross...we can never be good enough. WORKS follows the born again believer. This is why Jesus says you'll know them by their fruits..You can't cherry pick scripture,it all has to go together. Those two scriptures are pretty self explanatory.
I don't have a problem with any of those verses. And they do not contradict anything I have said. Question: How do you define "works of the law"? Are feeding the hungry and clothing the naked works of the law?
@solaphyde I've already answered this about v. 18, twice. It's in response to those who oppose faith and works - read the first few words. James is saying it's not either-or, it's both and. He has already obtained his faith. And his faith is being completed by good works.
It seems to me that there is a profound contradiction at play here. Allow me to pose a question: How can the Catholic Church profess to follow Christ, yet partake in the massacre of the Waldensians-individuals whose faith and practices bear a striking resemblance to what we recognize today as evangelical Christianity? Is it not the height of presumption to claim the mantle of Christianity while committing acts so starkly opposed to the teachings of Christ Himself?
Hello greeting from australia, Thank you for this new series of video. I have been listening to you for the past 2 years and have rediscovered my faith. I wish all catholics would spend a few hrs a week to understand the Catholic faith through programs like this one.
Thank you so much for this. You are talking to everyone here. And, yes, even preaching to the choir, because even your average cradle Catholic, would have been stumped on this one. Keep on challenging and sharing your theological insiight with us. We are grateful. *****
@carriebrk Please read Matt 25:14-30 and answer these questions: 1) Why does the 3rd servant get tossed into the outer darkness...because he doesn't have faith, or because he didn't do something with what his master had freely given him? 2) In Matt 19, when asked, "What must I do to have eternal life," does Jesus answer, "You don't have to 'do' anything, just believe in Me and you will have eternal life?" It is not faith alone or works alone, but faith working through love (Gal 5:6).
@RealJesusforAtheists Im getting confused, when you refer to RCC are you saying Roman Catholic Church? Thats what I've been referring to it as, as well as anytime I've seen RCC its ment that. You are refering to The Roman Catholic Church correct?
@RealJesusforAtheists This verse from James is not talking about salvation, its talking about showing your faith through your works. You cant show your faith by your faith, you show your faith by your works. Matthew 7:16 " Ye shall know them by their fruits..."
You did a pretty good job explaining the non-catholic interpretation of James 2. What you seem confused about is the difference in works of merit and works produced by faith. Faith is an attribute just like love, if love produces nothing then what good is that love? It is one thing that my love for my children produces food, shelter and clothing freely. It is another principle when I require something in return. James chapter 2 is teaching that beliefs that have no correlating response are worthless. He is saying faith is useless, (like a dead body) if it doesn’t function. It is one thing to say God has value for the faith that produces works or that works manifest salvation, it is another to say those works produce that salvation. It cannot be both true to say that salvation was totally merited by Christ but the believer must also work to produce that salvation. It is one thing to qualify genuine Faith by a work in kind (as James does), it is another to make salvation qualifiable by works of merit (as Catholics do). The works of faith that believers produce does not help merit salvation, for salvation was merited by Christ’s work along. Genuine faith in the substitutionary sufferings of the Lord Jesus Christ is the reason God delivers believers from the penalty of sin. That viable Faith apart from works of merit saves. The believer does not help earn their salvation, they merely reciprocate in kind to that which is ALIVE within their heart. Works that are done in hope that they contribute to salvation are works of merit. When the catholic church teaches that works have to be preformed for salvation sake, they are teaching that salvation (at least in part) is earned. If a Catholic performs works for salvation's sake, then Christ’s atoning work is not sufficient for them. When a Protestant produces works of faith they are not trying to earn what they already have, they are merely producing the reality of genuine faith within. They unlike the Catholic rest solely in the finished work of Christ. That’s the difference between catholic doctrine verses that of scripture.
@tanksalot84 The purpose as John outlines it is designed to be empowering to the Catholic while being challenging to the Protestant. It's time we ask some questions instead of being the ones who are constantly being asked questions. Through this series we'll have many good, hard questions to ask our Protestant friends.
@toeveryoneananswer You don't seem to get it. Just because something is not mentioned in a passage does not mean it's not included in the salvation process. The people who Paul addressed "not baptizing" were those who claimed some special authority due to the fact that they were baptized by Paul, THAT is why he said he was glad he didn't baptize MANY - though he obviously baptized some.
@CrimsonCatholic I never brought it up assuming you disagree. The point I was emphasizing is that justification is a matter of recieving Christ's righteousness, not merely maintaining salvation. The Catholic position is synergistic (conditional), and I'm arguing that the Biblical position is monergistic (unconditional). You haven't dealt with my argument in that faith cannot be partially useful b/c of verses 17, 26. Paul didn't baptize everyone he could have in 1 Cor 1.
@nathanduf Thank you for joining in... Catholics do not teach Salvation by Works... we believe it is by God's grace alone thats why we are saved through Faith... but to remain saved, we must also do works because Jesus himself commanded it.... Luke 6:37 "Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; FORGIVE, and YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN;"
@CrimsonCatholic And to answer your question James IS talking about true faith and false faith, why don't you read it in context. James 2:14-16 "What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit?"
@toeveryoneananswer The next one should be out in the next day or so. Can't remember exactly which verse I focused on in the next one - I recorded 37 or 38 at one sitting - but I do believe it is also on Sola Fide. I am not at all involved in the process other than the fact that I was the one being recorded. A kind soul has volunteered his time and resources to take care of all the editing, posting, etc. By the way, the one on infant baptism and original sin is my voice, but not my face.
Just to clarify, summarize and not lose my question several pages back: Is Baptism a work? If it is, where does the Bible define it as such (a sola scripturist must necessarily find explicit support in the Bible). If Baptism is not a work, is it required for salvation? If it is not required for salvation, on what grounds does the objection stand? If it is required for salvation, then salvation is not by Faith Alone, because Faith Alone cannot possibly be made to include Baptism. Owned again.
I'm not Catholic, but I'm in agreement on Justification. "Sola fide" is an absurd, man-made doctrine (ironic). The only place "faith alone" appears in the Bible, it says salvation is NOT by faith alone. Good argument. You did a nice job of refuting the idea that faith without works "isn't really faith" as many reformed theologies teach. I'll use that argument myself. Keep the videos coming. I look forward to seeing if there are any questions, I really "can't answer" as a "Protestant."
@toeveryoneananswer Absolute assurance=no doubts! You didn't claim the Apostles taught doctrinal error, you did indeed state that they were not infallible in their interpretations of Scripture and that they did not have an "exhaustive understanding" of Scripture. Which means they were fallible and they indeed could have taught error, right? How do you have any assurance? Will you admit that you could be wrong in your scriptural interpretations regarding salvation by faith alone - yes or no?
Good work, John! (oops, did I just say the 'W' word?) One of the reoccuring themes on protestant radio is the problem of the 'saved' living unchristian lives. Their theology prohibits telling their brothers and sisters that they need to do good (insert the 'w' word here). As for me, I work out my salvation with fear and trembling.
They also respond that they are being saved. This acknowledges the second meaning "saved" and "salvation" have in scripture--the present experience, God's power delivering constantly from the bondage of sin. 1 Cor 15:2 Through it (the gospel) you are also being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.
The Catechism also talks about our response to faith, (sections 161-162 and 1997-2000) which is to go out into the world and do as Jesus would have us do. Which is what we call Charity
@Russell12344 So, you're interpretation of the analogy in James 2:26 is: "Just as the body that doesn't produce a spirit is useless, so faith that doesn't produce good works is useless." Does any Protestant reading this want to agree with this interpretation of James 2:26? The analogy is, Russell12344: faith = body; works=spirit. Does the body "produce" the spirit? No, it does not. The spirit animates the body. So, the analogy is not referring to faith producing works as you claim.
Actually, you haven't answered my question. On Sunday morning, and/or Wednesday night, what is the name of the church you go to, and when was it founded? I will be happy to answer your question, once you indeed answer mine.
John if you wrote a paper on a particular topic and a reporter took one line of your paper and said "this is Johns position on topic x" you would jump up and down and say "one line is not my position, my whole paper is my position". We are to rightly divide scripture not hen peck the verses we like that we think helps our presuppositions.
o.k I ask so many questions to catholic faith. 1)Do Catholics worship Mary? Why do Catholics emphasize Mary so much? 2)n 1 Timothy it says Jesus is our sole mediator, yet we pray to Mary and the Saints. Is that going against the Bible? 3)In Romans, chapter 3, it says that none is righteous and that all have sinned, but the Catholic Church teaches that Mary is without sin…could you explain that in light of Romans 3? 4)The Bible clearly says that Jesus had brothers and sisters, but the Catholic Church teaches that Mary was a perpetual virgin…how can you reconcile those seemingly different positions? 5)Why are Catholic and Protestant Bibles different? Who originally compiled the Bible? 6)Why does the Catholic Church believe in Purgatory? 7)Why can’t non-Catholics receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church?
@toeveryoneananswer Sorry, you've missed the context of James 2. Context: Some folks were misinterpreting Paul's teaching that we are saved by faith. They, like many Prots today, were inserting "alone" into Paul's teaching on faith when nowhere does that word actually appear. James taught them their faith "alone" will not save them. That they are justified by works and not by faith alone. No, works are not necessary to be saved, but they are necessary to abide in Christ (remain saved), right?
@BCDrummer2 technical point: The "canon law" has nothing to do with faith and morals. It is really legislation to run a church. It is more like a speed limit sign rather than arguing on the immorality of speeding. What you really want to consult is the catechism. The catechism is VERY clear on faith & works -- GRACE FIRST, my brother! Amen? See # 150 to 184 to start.
James 2 the whole chapter is excellent to answer this question - especially verse 19: You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe -- and shudder. I think Protestants often mistakenly think that by doing good works, we are trying to "earn our salvation" - anybody else ever been accused of that? If i tried to do that, yes that would be wrong, as we can't "deserve" it. Maybe they think this b/c of the lax Catholics who think they're saved because they're "good people".
@swimthesea I can't remember, swimthesea, have you given your interpretation of James 2:26? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works...?" Is not referring to salvation? Means that you will physically die? Is not really faith? Is indeed dead faith but in no way is referring to salvation?
Also, if (A) faith = (B) works = (C) real faith in the sense of recieving justification then this means that (A) is partially useful or is more then intellectual belief. But that can't be the case since v. 17, 20, 26 also give the negative formula that faith - works = dead faith, and is just as dead as a dead body. It's not said to be partially useful. All this is why the context is that real faith is being shown, hence v.18, "blepeis" in v.22, and "horate" in v.24.
@toeveryoneananswer It does not say confession is a result of anything. Chapter and verse, please. Romans 10:10b "and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." It says you are saved by confessing. You are just arguing with explicit statements of Scripture. I'm happy to continue pointing this out.
@progressfabbrian Last chance: 1) Does Jesus say one must keep the Commandments in order to have eternal life? Yes or no? 2) Does the Bible say one must produce good fruit (good works) in order to remain attached to the vine which is Christ? Yes or no? 3) Does Rom 2:6-7 say that one will be rewarded with eternal life for patience in well-doing? Yes or no? Answer the questions!!!
@swimthesea I know what the analogy compares, and sorry to say, you're interpretation of it is not supported by the text. James is not saying that physical death results from faith without works, he is speaking of spiritual death. 2:25 refers to Rahab being justified, spiritually. James 2:24 is talking about justification - a spiritual construct. James 2:23 speaks of Abraham's righteousness - a spiritual, not physical, concept. Faith is a spiritual construct, not a physical one.
@solaphyde James does indeed teach two types of faith - a living faith and a dead faith. Just like in 2:26 he teaches that there are two types of bodies - a living body and a dead body. It's still the same body, but when the spirit is removed, it is a dead body. Just so faith, which James says is analogous to the body, when it loses its spirit (works) it dies. Same body, just two different states - alive, dead. Same faith, just two different states - alive, dead. The difference? Works.
What James is talking about is false faith, people who say that they have faith in Jesus or believe in Jesus but he says even Satan believes in Jesus and he is not saved. Our justification comes from faith alone, in believing that what Jesus did on the Cross saved us from all sin, and with having TRUE faith (Having faith in what he did and repenting) we become NEW CREATURES in Jesus and then the Sanctification naturally follows after.
@solaphyde You said " Scripture clearly teaches that if we're saved by grace that we don't go on having a hay day sinning because we're new creations." -Oct 26 That is completely contrary to scripture.
@toeveryoneananswer James 2:24 "You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone." Pray and read slowly what this passage talks about. This makes more sense than what you've been forcing all these time... You didn't dare answer my question and challenge to you earlier brother...
@solaphyde James does not imply the formula faith+works=real faith. Answer the question in the video! In 2:26 does James imply that the body without a spirit isn't really a body? NO! It's a dead body. So, faith without works is still faith, it's just dead. And, James quite directly states that we are justified by works and not by faith alone. The last part of the sentence speaking to the fact that we are indeed justified by faith, but not by faith alone.
"Train yourself for religion.. the usefulness of religion is unlimited since it holds promise for both life now and here to come" (1Tim4:7-8) "The mystery of our religion is very deep" (1Tim3:16) "You must aim to be upright and religious.." (1Tim6:11) "We must live upright and religious lives" (Titus:1:12) We must keep religion and doctrine (1Tim 6:3)
@chipk77 "theotokos" was declared because, despite being in common use, some called it heresy. "theotokos" was more than just saying that Jesus was God - Nestorius was trying to pull apart the two natures of Christ, saying that Mary gave birth to Jesus' humanity only. I used to dislike this title too (I'm a revert) but the perceived misplaced emphasis I saw was really a result of my own feelings about Mary. The Basic Gospel Message *is* simple, but the Christian Faith is fantastically rich.
Analogies are flawed. Straight up. Also, I want to thank you for your sincere attempt to purify the faith of Protestants/Catholics by leading us to question our theology and subsequent actions. The flaw here is that you don't take into account the nature of "faith". In Protestantism, we see Faith as synonymous with Trust. To trust in Jesus brings salvation.
@oldlite Do you know what that means? It means you cant show someone your faith by your faith... Hence, I will show YOU my faith by my works. This isn't about salvation. It's about showing your faith by your works as the only way to actually witness to a non believer. The best way to witness to non believers is by showing your works, i.e. (being kind, always helping, caring for them, praying for them, etc. et al.) How hard is this to understand, we should show our faith by our works.
@swimthesea I did not say "the average person cannot read the Bible and make any sense of it." You do confirm, however, the point I was making: If you can't properly interpret what I wrote, what guarantee do you have that you can properly interpret Scripture? I am not "implying" anything, I am stating directly, that every one of your interpretations of Scripture is fallible. Do you agree or disagree? In other words, you could be wrong in any or every one of your scriptural interpretations.
@BCDrummer2 So, your interpretation of James 2:26 is: A body without a spirit was once a living body, but faith without works wasn't once a living faith?" That's what James was really saying? And, the difference between a dead faith and no faith is that dead faith "pretends to be living?" Book, chapter, and verse on that one, please? Thank you for proving my point that this is a Question Protestants Can't Answer, at least, not with an answer that makes any sense.
@swimthesea I agree. However, the Catholic (I'm not Catholic btw) church doesn't teach that you're saved by going to classes and learning knowledge "alone."
@ReasonableCitizen After judging me and attacking my motivations, while not once attacking my arguments, do you claim not to be a "hostile witness?" Again, I am not trying to "score points," I am merely pointing out an analogy in Scripture that totally destroys the Protestant belief in Sola Fide, and totally destroys the lame Protestant response that faith without works really isn't faith. The framework I've "devised," was provided by James. So, how do you interpret the analogy in James 2:26?
@abbesieyes Let's take the example of solaphyde. I have grown tired of his seeming incapacity to understand, and respond directly to, my arguments, so I have cut down on my responses to him and anticipate reaching the point of no response at all to him. Did I censor him, though? No! He is still free to post as much as he wants because even though I have no? desire to engage him any longer, he is still trying to formulate an argument. He is not ranting and calling names.
@progressfabbrian And, also a simple question: Was what he did when he defended Jesus at the cost of inflicting upon himself great personal pain - a work? Yes or no? Indeed his "confession" is his faith in action, but would he have been promised Paradise if he had not acted at that moment? And, for the record, this has nothing to do with deserted islands or any such thing. Finally, since you just stated that, "Faith alone saves." Would you please give me book, chapter and verse for that quote?
@ReasonableCitizen Oh, yes, I am. I am not "restricting" anyone to a simple "yes" or "no" answer, that is a false assertion. I am, however, asking everyone to give a "Yes" or "no" answer, so that: 1) They will hopefully refine their thoughts on the matter; and 2) There is a clear starting point for the explication of their answer. I challenge you to show me where I have said, "Yes, or no, and no more?" And if I'm a "harmless semanticist," or a "pointless legalist," why so worried about me?
If works are not important why does Paul admonish the Philippians to work out their salvation with fear and trembling? Why is Paul worried about being disqualified? He has faith so how can he be disqualified?
@PRmerger08 The point made in this video though is that a popular argument made by Protestants, is they like to say that if your works do not demonstrate your faith then you don't really have faith...and this is inconsistent with Scripture. I think the question that grows out of this is, "is a dead faith a saving faith?"
The question, dear Protestants, if you believe that, "Good works are the fruit of salvation done out of gratitude," rather than an integral part of salvation itself, is this: Can you honestly interpret James 2:26 to mean that having a spirit is merely the fruit of having a body? Because that is, in effect, what you are saying. If works are merely the fruit of faith, then for the analogy to hold, the spirit is merely the fruit of having a body. I don't think so...
The body without the breath is dust/clay. clay/dust + breath of life = living soul (Genesis 2:7) clay/dust - breath of life = clay/dust (Genesis 3:19) When the breath of life leaves a person, the body of that person returns to the earth, it becomes dust. So until decomposition takes it's toll a dead body is really a body.
The whole point of the scripture in James is basically showing that just because someone says they're believers doesn't mean the believe in their heart. Jesus says you will know them by their fruit but your fruit does not save you. If works could save you then why do we need the crucifixion?
Hello, I heard you on Ave Maria Radio.I live in Oklahoma ans listen threw an Android App (my most used app). I need all the help I can on talking to "Bible only " Christians. Living in the Bible belt Catholics are the minority and completely misunderstood. I am a convert and my family is Evangelical talking to them on matters of faith can be hard . I'm looking forward to getting some questions i can ask to get them thinking!
@solaphyde I meant to say at the end: "He would have emphasized that faith + works = justification". In other words, we say faith + works = (real) faith, and the Catholic says "yeah but you also believe real faith = justification". Yes the Protestant believes that, but if James isn't a Protestant why would he assume real faith = justification?! He would have taught faith + works = justification. 1. He rather teaches how we show real faith, v18, 2. talks of Abraham's PAST faith and FUTURE works
Eph 2:4 "But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by GRACE you have been saved..8) for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is a gift of God" We were all dead in trespasses and sin. Only faith in His grace and mercy will "make us alive together with Christ"
@toeveryoneananswer What's missing is a correct definition of faith. Your interpretation of Jn 3 defines faith as merely mental assent. Clearly not what Jesus meant based on the rest of the passage. Biblical faith is active trust. What most Protestants believe in is merely gnosticism. The same question could be asked of you: If we are not saved by works why will Jesus return and judge us by them? Mt 16:27, Rev 20:12. If an interpretation causes contradictions (i.e. yours), it's wrong.
@toeveryoneananswer I'm just reading the Bible. I'm not denying that there are false teachers, but how do you know which ones are false and which ones are true when you have no assurance that your private, fallible interpretations of the Bible are false or true? What it boils down to is this: Is it scriptural for us to have an infallible guide when we interpret Scripture, or is it scriptural that we should all just interpret the Bible for ourselves, based on our own authority?
If nothing we do has any bearing on the afterlife then why will we be judged according to our works? Rom. 2:6 Would the "good thief" have been baptized had he had the chance? Only God knows.
@toeveryoneananswer EXACTLY, you have highlighted the most important part in verse 8... it means if you are not doing works/bearing fruit, then you are cut off from the vine... believing alone doesn't make you God's disciples. being part of the vine doesn't automatically save you. Let me share you verses from John which includes work John 3:19-21...John 12:44-50
@swimthesea You need to read 1 Ptr 3:20-21. Ezek 36:25-27; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; 1 Cor 12:13; Gal 3:27; Col 2:11-12; and, you really need to read John 3:3-5 - if we are not born again of water and the Spirit, we cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
@solaphyde "For he will render to every man according to his works. To those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury." So, even after receiving grace you must respond to that grace by doing good works. Good works is a necessary response to grace. It's how we say "thank you" to God. To be grateful to God.
Hello again, my friend. Faith without works is dead, according to James. But what "works" was he referring to? James believed that followers of Christ were to dedicate themselves to works of the law. The Mosaic Law. There is enough evidence in the New Testament that James was a devout Jew who believed that one who was a Jew should remain dedicated to the Mosaic Law. But also those who were not Jews by birth should do the same if they were to be a part of the church. We see this in Act. 15 when James decided that the Gentile believers who Paul was evangelizing needed to live according to, at least, some of the Mosaic Law. James required them to keep some of the ceremonial laws in verse 20. James tells Paul in Act. 21 that the believers in Jerusalem were, 'zealous for the law'. What law? The Mosaic Law. James had a particular Gospel that was different from that of Paul. James 'technically' taught two different Gospels. One for the Jews and one for the Gentiles. If it's by works of the Mosaic Law that maintains our faith then you've contradicted Paul who said that is not by works of the law that we are made righteous. If we received the Holy Spirit of God without works of the law then it stands to reason that works of the law do not sustain us. Be well and God bless.
@farsight001 Scripture interprets itself. If a texts is misunderstood or is not clear, we find all the texts in the bible that are related. And then we see that the scripture will give an answer it self in the full context. The problem is when people read one text and try to interpret that text, not only without the immediate context, but without the context of the all bible on that topic. We must let the scripture explain itself in the full context.
I love your series and your site!!! I love our Lord Jesus and our Catholic Church!!! I love the Eucharist, our Lord's precious body and blood!!! I love our Blessed Mother!!! I love saying the rosary!!! I love my Guardian Angel for putting up with my sorry butt!!! God bless us everyone!!!
So nice to see you here on youtube, John. We greatly appreciate all the things you do for the church. You inspire many people to know and defend their faith. May God give you good health and long life. The church need a person like you. God bless you and your family and take care.
~ from Philippines.
Another question Protestants Can't Answer is - Was Virgin Mary Needed for Our Salvation?
I know this to be fact that they can't answer this question, I recently went on a protestant forum and I put this question to them, many wrote back however all went around the question, saying you know the usual that I / we Catholics Worship Mary, then a few days later I was booted of their Protestant forum, they did me a favor lol
They could not answer YES, for fear of answering yes, would then make them a Catholic and that Virgin Mary is Co-Redemptrix
The could not answer NO! Because they can not hide the Fact that God wanted His Son to be born of Virgin Mary, therefore obviously by the power of God Virgin Mary was needed for Our Salvation.
Pontius Pilot was also needed for our salvation. I don't think that we should worship him. I don't want to be confrontational, and I understand what you are saying, but why do you place so much value on Mary? Why not David? That fact remains that Mary was a human. Jesus should be where our focus is. God put Mary in teh Bible so that we could learn. The same reason He have us Ruth, Esther, David, Esther, Jonah, etc.
If you don't understand the importance of Mary, I wonder you will ever understand the importance of Jesus. You can't equate Mary with Pontius Pilate or David or anyone else.
Autumn Wilson mary was the first and greatest disciple. We learn from her. she is a great role model. Jesus gives her a special place in heaven, as he honors her greatly. she will forever be the mother of God bc of her choice and Gods love for us. mary has no place superceding Jesus in any way but rather helping us sinners turn back toward him. in this sense, she is a spiritual mother. do you know Martin Luther had a devotion to mary up until his death?
Nobody worships Mary, we give her honor as scripture says she will be called Blessed forever, just like in america you are big into given honor to the founders, even building statues of them-We know ur just givin them the honor due them, so as Mary is the Mother of God and as we know death cannot separate us from the love of God, Mary been part of the Mystical Body of Christ is someone whose prayers we can ask for just like we do ask our friends to pray for us. We know they intercede for us as we see both the saints and angels in Heaven bringing the prayers of the angels & saints to Jesus and afterward there is thunder & lighting which is showing us God's response to these intercessions. We know they are intercessory prayers as we read that the prayers of the saints are mixed with those of the angels, so the angels and saints in Heaven are bringing our prayers to the Lamb & also the prayers are mixed with incense and all the singing and liturgy is that of the Mass so John is seen the Mass from Heaven, which is prophesied in Mal 1:11....YOU SHOULD TAKE YOUR BIBLE WITH YOU TO MASS SOMETIME AND READ REVELATION WHILE LISTENING TO THE MASS
I'll answer you. NO
What a clear, cogent and crisp explanation. Thank you and may God richly bless you John.
All these hateful, confusing comments... Jesus established one church, with leadership authority, just to avoid such division. God is not the author of chaos. The one church has imperfect people, i.e. sinners, in it, but it is forever his Body. The beauty and fullness of His universal (Catholic) church has all the means of grace that He intended for us. I will never leave because I believe Him: "and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it." Ignorance breeds Protestants.
Thanks John! You don't know how much we have been learning about our Catholic faith because of your mission. May God continue to bless you so you can reach more Catholics as well as non-Catholics. .
Gal. 2:16, "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified."
Rom. 3:28-30, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one." Works based salvation takes away from what Jesus did on the cross...we can never be good enough. WORKS follows the born again believer. This is why Jesus says you'll know them by their fruits..You can't cherry pick scripture,it all has to go together. Those two scriptures are pretty self explanatory.
I don't have a problem with any of those verses. And they do not contradict anything I have said. Question: How do you define "works of the law"? Are feeding the hungry and clothing the naked works of the law?
@@johnmartignoni3175 you dont gain righteousness by works..its through faith. faith produces good works..
@solaphyde I've already answered this about v. 18, twice. It's in response to those who oppose faith and works - read the first few words. James is saying it's not either-or, it's both and.
He has already obtained his faith. And his faith is being completed by good works.
It seems to me that there is a profound contradiction at play here. Allow me to pose a question: How can the Catholic Church profess to follow Christ, yet partake in the massacre of the Waldensians-individuals whose faith and practices bear a striking resemblance to what we recognize today as evangelical Christianity? Is it not the height of presumption to claim the mantle of Christianity while committing acts so starkly opposed to the teachings of Christ Himself?
Hello greeting from australia, Thank you for this new series of video. I have been listening to you for the past 2 years and have rediscovered my faith. I wish all catholics would spend a few hrs a week to understand the Catholic faith through programs like this one.
Outstanding!!!!! What a blessing you are to The Faith! May God grant you many happy, holy and blessed years.
Thanks for the video, I have subscribed, posted on my FB page and on my blog. I look forward to this series!
Thanks John, for a brilliant explanation. I am looking forward to your next post. God Bless you.
An immensely edifying video - thanks for sharing.
Excelllent! Keep up the good work, John.
God bless you.
Thank you for this video. I've been practicing Defending the faith and I've had trouble with this issue.
John,
You rock! This will be a really handy tool for dialog.
God's Peace!
Your friend,
Church Militant from CAF
hey i just checked out your channel and saw some of your comments on other videos. LOVE IT. you've got balls brother, good job bro
Thank you so much for this. You are talking to everyone here. And, yes, even preaching to the choir, because even your average cradle Catholic, would have been stumped on this one. Keep on challenging and sharing your theological insiight with us. We are grateful. *****
@carriebrk Question: Do you have to forgive the sins of others in order to be saved...yes or no?
That is my understanding. Thanks for reading and please feel free to open a discussion :)
great job. keep em coming john.
@carriebrk Please read Matt 25:14-30 and answer these questions: 1) Why does the 3rd servant get tossed into the outer darkness...because he doesn't have faith, or because he didn't do something with what his master had freely given him? 2) In Matt 19, when asked, "What must I do to have eternal life," does Jesus answer, "You don't have to 'do' anything, just believe in Me and you will have eternal life?" It is not faith alone or works alone, but faith working through love (Gal 5:6).
@RealJesusforAtheists Im getting confused, when you refer to RCC are you saying Roman Catholic Church? Thats what I've been referring to it as, as well as anytime I've seen RCC its ment that. You are refering to The Roman Catholic Church correct?
Excellent, John, you 'da man!
Keep up the good work! I'm learning to be an apologist myself.
Good John, very good... Keep up the good works... and hope the seeds produce fruits 100:1
I agree. But, that answers the question how?
@RealJesusforAtheists This verse from James is not talking about salvation, its talking about showing your faith through your works. You cant show your faith by your faith, you show your faith by your works. Matthew 7:16 " Ye shall know them by their fruits..."
You did a pretty good job explaining the non-catholic interpretation of James 2. What you seem confused about is the difference in works of merit and works produced by faith. Faith is an attribute just like love, if love produces nothing then what good is that love? It is one thing that my love for my children produces food, shelter and clothing freely. It is another principle when I require something in return.
James chapter 2 is teaching that beliefs that have no correlating response are worthless. He is saying faith is useless, (like a dead body) if it doesn’t function. It is one thing to say God has value for the faith that produces works or that works manifest salvation, it is another to say those works produce that salvation. It cannot be both true to say that salvation was totally merited by Christ but the believer must also work to produce that salvation.
It is one thing to qualify genuine Faith by a work in kind (as James does), it is another to make salvation qualifiable by works of merit (as Catholics do).
The works of faith that believers produce does not help merit salvation, for salvation was merited by Christ’s work along. Genuine faith in the substitutionary sufferings of the Lord Jesus Christ is the reason God delivers believers from the penalty of sin. That viable Faith apart from works of merit saves. The believer does not help earn their salvation, they merely reciprocate in kind to that which is ALIVE within their heart.
Works that are done in hope that they contribute to salvation are works of merit. When the catholic church teaches that works have to be preformed for salvation sake, they are teaching that salvation (at least in part) is earned. If a Catholic performs works for salvation's sake, then Christ’s atoning work is not sufficient for them. When a Protestant produces works of faith they are not trying to earn what they already have, they are merely producing the reality of genuine faith within. They unlike the Catholic rest solely in the finished work of Christ. That’s the difference between catholic doctrine verses that of scripture.
@tanksalot84 The purpose as John outlines it is designed to be empowering to the Catholic while being challenging to the Protestant. It's time we ask some questions instead of being the ones who are constantly being asked questions. Through this series we'll have many good, hard questions to ask our Protestant friends.
CrimsonCatholic - Keep up the honest work
@toeveryoneananswer You don't seem to get it. Just because something is not mentioned in a passage does not mean it's not included in the salvation process. The people who Paul addressed "not baptizing" were those who claimed some special authority due to the fact that they were baptized by Paul, THAT is why he said he was glad he didn't baptize MANY - though he obviously baptized some.
@CrimsonCatholic I never brought it up assuming you disagree. The point I was emphasizing is that justification is a matter of recieving Christ's righteousness, not merely maintaining salvation. The Catholic position is synergistic (conditional), and I'm arguing that the Biblical position is monergistic (unconditional). You haven't dealt with my argument in that faith cannot be partially useful b/c of verses 17, 26. Paul didn't baptize everyone he could have in 1 Cor 1.
@nathanduf Thank you for joining in... Catholics do not teach Salvation by Works... we believe it is by God's grace alone thats why we are saved through Faith... but to remain saved, we must also do works because Jesus himself commanded it.... Luke 6:37 "Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; FORGIVE, and YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN;"
@CrimsonCatholic And to answer your question James IS talking about true faith and false faith, why don't you read it in context. James 2:14-16 "What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit?"
@toeveryoneananswer
The next one should be out in the next day or so. Can't remember exactly which verse I focused on in the next one - I recorded 37 or 38 at one sitting - but I do believe it is also on Sola Fide. I am not at all involved in the process other than the fact that I was the one being recorded. A kind soul has volunteered his time and resources to take care of all the editing, posting, etc. By the way, the one on infant baptism and original sin is my voice, but not my face.
Just to clarify, summarize and not lose my question several pages back: Is Baptism a work? If it is, where does the Bible define it as such (a sola scripturist must necessarily find explicit support in the Bible). If Baptism is not a work, is it required for salvation? If it is not required for salvation, on what grounds does the objection stand? If it is required for salvation, then salvation is not by Faith Alone, because Faith Alone cannot possibly be made to include Baptism. Owned again.
Excellent. I had to draw a picture to really see this. But it is a perfect logic.
I'm not Catholic, but I'm in agreement on Justification. "Sola fide" is an absurd, man-made doctrine (ironic). The only place "faith alone" appears in the Bible, it says salvation is NOT by faith alone.
Good argument. You did a nice job of refuting the idea that faith without works "isn't really faith" as many reformed theologies teach. I'll use that argument myself. Keep the videos coming. I look forward to seeing if there are any questions, I really "can't answer" as a "Protestant."
@toeveryoneananswer
Absolute assurance=no doubts! You didn't claim the Apostles taught doctrinal error, you did indeed state that they were not infallible in their interpretations of Scripture and that they did not have an "exhaustive understanding" of Scripture. Which means they were fallible and they indeed could have taught error, right? How do you have any assurance? Will you admit that you could be wrong in your scriptural interpretations regarding salvation by faith alone - yes or no?
... Oh goody! I'm gonna attempt to answer all of these! This is gonna be fun! : D
I happen to agree with you on this one. : )
Good work, John! (oops, did I just say the 'W' word?) One of the reoccuring themes on protestant radio is the problem of the 'saved' living unchristian lives. Their theology prohibits telling their brothers and sisters that they need to do good (insert the 'w' word here). As for me, I work out my salvation with fear and trembling.
They also respond that they are being saved. This acknowledges the second meaning "saved" and "salvation" have in scripture--the present experience, God's power delivering constantly from the bondage of sin.
1 Cor 15:2
Through it (the gospel) you are also being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.
The Catechism also talks about our response to faith, (sections 161-162 and 1997-2000) which is to go out into the world and do as Jesus would have us do. Which is what we call Charity
@Russell12344
So, you're interpretation of the analogy in James 2:26 is: "Just as the body that doesn't produce a spirit is useless, so faith that doesn't produce good works is useless." Does any Protestant reading this want to agree with this interpretation of James 2:26? The analogy is, Russell12344: faith = body; works=spirit. Does the body "produce" the spirit? No, it does not. The spirit animates the body. So, the analogy is not referring to faith producing works as you claim.
Actually, you haven't answered my question. On Sunday morning, and/or Wednesday night, what is the name of the church you go to, and when was it founded? I will be happy to answer your question, once you indeed answer mine.
John if you wrote a paper on a particular topic and a reporter took one line of your paper and said "this is Johns position on topic x" you would jump up and down and say "one line is not my position, my whole paper is my position". We are to rightly divide scripture not hen peck the verses we like that we think helps our presuppositions.
I'm not sure what you're getting at in the last three lines, but I agree with what you say in the first three lines.
o.k I ask so many questions to catholic faith.
1)Do Catholics worship Mary? Why do Catholics emphasize Mary so much?
2)n 1 Timothy it says Jesus is our sole mediator, yet we pray to Mary and the Saints. Is that going against the Bible?
3)In Romans, chapter 3, it says that none is righteous and that all have sinned, but the Catholic Church teaches that Mary is without sin…could you explain that in light of Romans 3?
4)The Bible clearly says that Jesus had brothers and sisters, but the Catholic Church teaches that Mary was a perpetual virgin…how can you reconcile those seemingly different positions?
5)Why are Catholic and Protestant Bibles different? Who originally compiled the Bible?
6)Why does the Catholic Church believe in Purgatory?
7)Why can’t non-Catholics receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church?
@toeveryoneananswer
Sorry, you've missed the context of James 2. Context: Some folks were misinterpreting Paul's teaching that we are saved by faith. They, like many Prots today, were inserting "alone" into Paul's teaching on faith when nowhere does that word actually appear. James taught them their faith "alone" will not save them. That they are justified by works and not by faith alone. No, works are not necessary to be saved, but they are necessary to abide in Christ (remain saved), right?
@BCDrummer2 technical point: The "canon law" has nothing to do with faith and morals. It is really legislation to run a church. It is more like a speed limit sign rather than arguing on the immorality of speeding.
What you really want to consult is the catechism. The catechism is VERY clear on faith & works -- GRACE FIRST, my brother! Amen? See # 150 to 184 to start.
James 2 the whole chapter is excellent to answer this question - especially verse 19: You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe -- and shudder.
I think Protestants often mistakenly think that by doing good works, we are trying to "earn our salvation" - anybody else ever been accused of that? If i tried to do that, yes that would be wrong, as we can't "deserve" it. Maybe they think this b/c of the lax Catholics who think they're saved because they're "good people".
@swimthesea
I can't remember, swimthesea, have you given your interpretation of James 2:26? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works...?" Is not referring to salvation? Means that you will physically die? Is not really faith? Is indeed dead faith but in no way is referring to salvation?
Also, if (A) faith = (B) works = (C) real faith in the sense of recieving justification then this means that (A) is partially useful or is more then intellectual belief. But that can't be the case since v. 17, 20, 26 also give the negative formula that faith - works = dead faith, and is just as dead as a dead body. It's not said to be partially useful. All this is why the context is that real faith is being shown, hence v.18, "blepeis" in v.22, and "horate" in v.24.
you are awesome! keep it up!
@toeveryoneananswer It does not say confession is a result of anything. Chapter and verse, please. Romans 10:10b "and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." It says you are saved by confessing. You are just arguing with explicit statements of Scripture. I'm happy to continue pointing this out.
@progressfabbrian Last chance: 1) Does Jesus say one must keep the Commandments in order to have eternal life? Yes or no? 2) Does the Bible say one must produce good fruit (good works) in order to remain attached to the vine which is Christ? Yes or no? 3) Does Rom 2:6-7 say that one will be rewarded with eternal life for patience in well-doing? Yes or no? Answer the questions!!!
@swimthesea
I know what the analogy compares, and sorry to say, you're interpretation of it is not supported by the text. James is not saying that physical death results from faith without works, he is speaking of spiritual death. 2:25 refers to Rahab being justified, spiritually. James 2:24 is talking about justification - a spiritual construct. James 2:23 speaks of Abraham's righteousness - a spiritual, not physical, concept. Faith is a spiritual construct, not a physical one.
Great insight. We should all do our own study of scripture. I believe there could be ALOT of people who think they are saved but really aren't.
@solaphyde James does indeed teach two types of faith - a living faith and a dead faith. Just like in 2:26 he teaches that there are two types of bodies - a living body and a dead body. It's still the same body, but when the spirit is removed, it is a dead body. Just so faith, which James says is analogous to the body, when it loses its spirit (works) it dies. Same body, just two different states - alive, dead. Same faith, just two different states - alive, dead. The difference? Works.
What James is talking about is false faith, people who say that they have faith in Jesus or believe in Jesus but he says even Satan believes in Jesus and he is not saved. Our justification comes from faith alone, in believing that what Jesus did on the Cross saved us from all sin, and with having TRUE faith (Having faith in what he did and repenting) we become NEW CREATURES in Jesus and then the Sanctification naturally follows after.
@solaphyde You said " Scripture clearly teaches that if we're saved by grace that we don't go on having a hay day sinning because we're new creations." -Oct 26 That is completely contrary to scripture.
@ReasonableCitizen
Answer the question: Is a dead body not really a body? Yes...or...no?
@toeveryoneananswer James 2:24 "You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone." Pray and read slowly what this passage talks about. This makes more sense than what you've been forcing all these time...
You didn't dare answer my question and challenge to you earlier brother...
@solaphyde James does not imply the formula faith+works=real faith. Answer the question in the video! In 2:26 does James imply that the body without a spirit isn't really a body? NO! It's a dead body. So, faith without works is still faith, it's just dead. And, James quite directly states that we are justified by works and not by faith alone. The last part of the sentence speaking to the fact that we are indeed justified by faith, but not by faith alone.
"Train yourself for religion.. the usefulness of religion is unlimited since it holds promise for both life now and here to come" (1Tim4:7-8)
"The mystery of our religion is very deep" (1Tim3:16)
"You must aim to be upright and religious.." (1Tim6:11)
"We must live upright and religious lives" (Titus:1:12)
We must keep religion and doctrine (1Tim 6:3)
@bamarogue Good point. IrishEyes addressed a point that wasn't even really explored by this video.
@chipk77 "theotokos" was declared because, despite being in common use, some called it heresy. "theotokos" was more than just saying that Jesus was God - Nestorius was trying to pull apart the two natures of Christ, saying that Mary gave birth to Jesus' humanity only.
I used to dislike this title too (I'm a revert) but the perceived misplaced emphasis I saw was really a result of my own feelings about Mary.
The Basic Gospel Message *is* simple, but the Christian Faith is fantastically rich.
Analogies are flawed. Straight up. Also, I want to thank you for your sincere attempt to purify the faith of Protestants/Catholics by leading us to question our theology and subsequent actions. The flaw here is that you don't take into account the nature of "faith". In Protestantism, we see Faith as synonymous with Trust. To trust in Jesus brings salvation.
@oldlite Do you know what that means? It means you cant show someone your faith by your faith... Hence, I will show YOU my faith by my works. This isn't about salvation. It's about showing your faith by your works as the only way to actually witness to a non believer. The best way to witness to non believers is by showing your works, i.e. (being kind, always helping, caring for them, praying for them, etc. et al.) How hard is this to understand, we should show our faith by our works.
@swimthesea
I did not say "the average person cannot read the Bible and make any sense of it." You do confirm, however, the point I was making: If you can't properly interpret what I wrote, what guarantee do you have that you can properly interpret Scripture? I am not "implying" anything, I am stating directly, that every one of your interpretations of Scripture is fallible. Do you agree or disagree? In other words, you could be wrong in any or every one of your scriptural interpretations.
@BCDrummer2
So, your interpretation of James 2:26 is: A body without a spirit was once a living body, but faith without works wasn't once a living faith?" That's what James was really saying? And, the difference between a dead faith and no faith is that dead faith "pretends to be living?" Book, chapter, and verse on that one, please? Thank you for proving my point that this is a Question Protestants Can't Answer, at least, not with an answer that makes any sense.
@swimthesea I agree. However, the Catholic (I'm not Catholic btw) church doesn't teach that you're saved by going to classes and learning knowledge "alone."
@ReasonableCitizen
After judging me and attacking my motivations, while not once attacking my arguments, do you claim not to be a "hostile witness?" Again, I am not trying to "score points," I am merely pointing out an analogy in Scripture that totally destroys the Protestant belief in Sola Fide, and totally destroys the lame Protestant response that faith without works really isn't faith. The framework I've "devised," was provided by James. So, how do you interpret the analogy in James 2:26?
@abbesieyes Let's take the example of solaphyde. I have grown tired of his seeming incapacity to understand, and respond directly to, my arguments, so I have cut down on my responses to him and anticipate reaching the point of no response at all to him. Did I censor him, though? No! He is still free to post as much as he wants because even though I have no? desire to engage him any longer, he is still trying to formulate an argument. He is not ranting and calling names.
@chipk77 What's your main stumbling block with Catholicism? Maybe John could do a video on that topic.
@progressfabbrian And, also a simple question: Was what he did when he defended Jesus at the cost of inflicting upon himself great personal pain - a work? Yes or no? Indeed his "confession" is his faith in action, but would he have been promised Paradise if he had not acted at that moment? And, for the record, this has nothing to do with deserted islands or any such thing. Finally, since you just stated that, "Faith alone saves." Would you please give me book, chapter and verse for that quote?
@ReasonableCitizen
Oh, yes, I am. I am not "restricting" anyone to a simple "yes" or "no" answer, that is a false assertion. I am, however, asking everyone to give a "Yes" or "no" answer, so that: 1) They will hopefully refine their thoughts on the matter; and 2) There is a clear starting point for the explication of their answer. I challenge you to show me where I have said, "Yes, or no, and no more?" And if I'm a "harmless semanticist," or a "pointless legalist," why so worried about me?
If works are not important why does Paul admonish the Philippians to work out their salvation with fear and trembling? Why is Paul worried about being disqualified? He has faith so how can he be disqualified?
Love it!
@PRmerger08 The point made in this video though is that a popular argument made by Protestants, is they like to say that if your works do not demonstrate your faith then you don't really have faith...and this is inconsistent with Scripture. I think the question that grows out of this is, "is a dead faith a saving faith?"
The question, dear Protestants, if you believe that, "Good works are the fruit of salvation done out of gratitude," rather than an integral part of salvation itself, is this: Can you honestly interpret James 2:26 to mean that having a spirit is merely the fruit of having a body? Because that is, in effect, what you are saying. If works are merely the fruit of faith, then for the analogy to hold, the spirit is merely the fruit of having a body. I don't think so...
The body without the breath is dust/clay.
clay/dust + breath of life = living soul (Genesis 2:7)
clay/dust - breath of life = clay/dust (Genesis 3:19)
When the breath of life leaves a person, the body of that person returns to the earth, it becomes dust. So until decomposition takes it's toll a dead body is really a body.
The whole point of the scripture in James is basically showing that just because someone says they're believers doesn't mean the believe in their heart. Jesus says you will know them by their fruit but your fruit does not save you. If works could save you then why do we need the crucifixion?
Hello, I heard you on Ave Maria Radio.I live in Oklahoma ans listen threw an Android App (my most used app). I need all the help I can on talking to "Bible only " Christians. Living in the Bible belt Catholics are the minority and completely misunderstood. I am a convert and my family is Evangelical talking to them on matters of faith can be hard . I'm looking forward to getting some questions i can ask to get them thinking!
@FiberMania Amen! Trouble is, the video didn't really address that point, rather it asked the question of whether faith without works is really faith.
@solaphyde I meant to say at the end: "He would have emphasized that faith + works = justification". In other words, we say faith + works = (real) faith, and the Catholic says "yeah but you also believe real faith = justification". Yes the Protestant believes that, but if James isn't a Protestant why would he assume real faith = justification?! He would have taught faith + works = justification. 1. He rather teaches how we show real faith, v18, 2. talks of Abraham's PAST faith and FUTURE works
Eph 2:4 "But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by GRACE you have been saved..8) for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is a gift of God" We were all dead in trespasses and sin. Only faith in His grace and mercy will "make us alive together with Christ"
@toeveryoneananswer What's missing is a correct definition of faith. Your interpretation of Jn 3 defines faith as merely mental assent. Clearly not what Jesus meant based on the rest of the passage. Biblical faith is active trust. What most Protestants believe in is merely gnosticism. The same question could be asked of you: If we are not saved by works why will Jesus return and judge us by them? Mt 16:27, Rev 20:12. If an interpretation causes contradictions (i.e. yours), it's wrong.
Stunningly Amazing!!!
@calomie You haven't told me anything I don't know about Protestant belief. Furthermore, you haven't answered the question.
@toeveryoneananswer
I'm just reading the Bible. I'm not denying that there are false teachers, but how do you know which ones are false and which ones are true when you have no assurance that your private, fallible interpretations of the Bible are false or true? What it boils down to is this: Is it scriptural for us to have an infallible guide when we interpret Scripture, or is it scriptural that we should all just interpret the Bible for ourselves, based on our own authority?
@JesuVeritasOne
Thanks, Phillipo!
If nothing we do has any bearing on the afterlife then why will we be judged according to our works? Rom. 2:6 Would the "good thief" have been baptized had he had the chance? Only God knows.
@toeveryoneananswer EXACTLY, you have highlighted the most important part in verse 8... it means if you are not doing works/bearing fruit, then you are cut off from the vine... believing alone doesn't make you God's disciples. being part of the vine doesn't automatically save you. Let me share you verses from John which includes work John 3:19-21...John 12:44-50
@swimthesea
You need to read 1 Ptr 3:20-21. Ezek 36:25-27; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; 1 Cor 12:13; Gal 3:27; Col 2:11-12; and, you really need to read John 3:3-5 - if we are not born again of water and the Spirit, we cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
@solaphyde "For he will render to every man according to his works. To those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury." So, even after receiving grace you must respond to that grace by doing good works. Good works is a necessary response to grace. It's how we say "thank you" to God. To be grateful to God.
Hello again, my friend. Faith without works is dead, according to James. But what "works" was he referring to? James believed that followers of Christ were to dedicate themselves to works of the law. The Mosaic Law. There is enough evidence in the New Testament that James was a devout Jew who believed that one who was a Jew should remain dedicated to the Mosaic Law. But also those who were not Jews by birth should do the same if they were to be a part of the church. We see this in Act. 15 when James decided that the Gentile believers who Paul was evangelizing needed to live according to, at least, some of the Mosaic Law. James required them to keep some of the ceremonial laws in verse 20. James tells Paul in Act. 21 that the believers in Jerusalem were, 'zealous for the law'. What law? The Mosaic Law. James had a particular Gospel that was different from that of Paul. James 'technically' taught two different Gospels. One for the Jews and one for the Gentiles. If it's by works of the Mosaic Law that maintains our faith then you've contradicted Paul who said that is not by works of the law that we are made righteous. If we received the Holy Spirit of God without works of the law then it stands to reason that works of the law do not sustain us. Be well and God bless.
@farsight001 Scripture interprets itself. If a texts is misunderstood or is not clear, we find all the texts in the bible that are related. And then we see that the scripture will give an answer it self in the full context. The problem is when people read one text and try to interpret that text, not only without the immediate context, but without the context of the all bible on that topic. We must let the scripture explain itself in the full context.