Turkish gun manufacturers make superb modern combat handguns of high quality at affordable fair prices. I like all three pistols, being Canik my personal favorite but I have nothing against SAR or Tisa. People that reject or despise Turkish made pistols have no idea of how good they are because they haven't care to even try something different than Glock. Their loss!
@@DCopp I own a Tisas 1911a1 Tanker, and I love that pistol! I've met some people that were like "Your gun is Turkish?" Like it's junk. Turks have been making quality firearms for CENTURIES! They conquered much of the Middle East and all of SE Europe with firearm technology mostly. It was their cannons that took down the "impregnable" walls of Constantinople in 1453...
@@DCopp I want one too! And a Browning High-Power, and a PSAK 47, and...hell who am I kidding, I'd have to be rather wealthy to own all the guns I want, like a 9mm Luger. **DROOLS**
Big Glock and cz guy here. I bought a sar bp6c 6-7 years ago when they came out (polymer cz75 clone) I think it was 279 bucks. Put a couple thousand rounds through it and sold it for more than I paid a few years laters. I bought a zigana px9 during the pandemic for 309. I actually did a 1K round review here on TH-cam. There wasn’t any info on them at the time. I just saw a gen3 version the other day and plan on picking one up due to the optics cut, Glock sights and flat faced trigger. I like they kept the p226 mags on the gen3’s
The Turks are really making some great hand guns would you say they are giving US made handguns a run for there money I have several different makes and they all work flawlessly, I came across a few things that were adaptable but after a few test rounds that problem was eliminated doesn't take long to adjust to. And the best thing is the affordability,plus they have great names for each 👍
The Zigana PX-9 G2 is costing 1400 USD here in Brazil, despite all the import taxes. The CZ P10c is over 2k USD. We're seeing some Glocks Gen3 for 1500 USD but these Tisas really look interesting. And the Stöeger STR-9, which is made in Turkey too. I was expecting the brazilian-made licensed version of the slovenian Arex Delta Gen2 to be around 1200 but they're charging 1500 too. So I'm really wondering which one should I aim for...the Sarsilmaz SR9 looks interesting too. Canik sadly didn't show up here yet.
I have 2 Caniks ( TP9SFX, and Rival Darkside) and I have the Sar 9x Platinum edition. I must say they are definitely exceptional pistols. I have heard about Tisas pistols also being very well made but I haven't shot with one yet. It does look as if the US markets are starting to take notice of Canik and Sar because I have seen an uptick in their prices the past year. Tisas is probably just behind due to them being newer in the market but I'm sure that they too will be appreciated for their quality here in the near future. I'm very happy with my Turkish pistols and I actually enjoy shooting with them more than my glock.
@@DCopp Great video by the way. Very informative and I think more people will learn just how awesome these Turkish pistols really are in the very near future.
I bought a Sar B6 about 3 months ago. I’ve put about 1k rounds through it with no problems. I paid $199 for the thing. I’m blown away by its accuracy, build quality, and reliability. I bought a 19 round extended CZ75 mag and a standard 17 round CZ75 mag and both run flawlessly. It’s my EDC. I love it.
@Snake Doc, Thanks for the video, nice job! One suggestion would be to include the trigger pull for each gun. I agree Canik's are great values and also have lifetime warranties. It looks like the Zigada and SAR only have a 1 year warranty...
Your rankings SAR9 #1 / TP9SF #2 / Zigana PX-9 #3 .... Very much appreciate your video presentation. Currently I can order a SAR9 for $249.99 and get a $30 rebate. Would you say that is a no brainer purchase?
the PX9 is my nightstand gun as well. haha. I was surprised at just how good it was when I got it. I really didn't expect much at that price point but my god, they made a good firearm straight out of the box - and with how light the trigger is on mine, I'm pretty happy that it came with a manual safety. I do agree if I could change anything about the Tisas it would be that very bottom of the grip, I eventually ended up putting the small size grip panels on it to combat that a little bit - at some point if I ever run out of other projects or I get super creative and need a break from the other projects I may end up molding my own back panel for it - but again, for the price it's really hard to beat.
enjoyed this video. i have a tisas px9 on order. i have tisas 19ll. best value on a great firearm. my favorite is the canik. i have 3. small, medium and large. my best gun without a red dot the tp9sf elite.
Have/had them all and I live both in the US and Turkey. 1. Stoeger 2. Canik 3. Sarsilmaz 4. All the other polymers have a long way to go. But they'll get there. My $0.02
Excellent review video sir! I expect more people will watch this soon since the Tisas gun was featured in an NRA magazine recently. You really hit all of the points a fella should on a gun review. The only thing I can add to the convo is that I recently dry fired a SAR at a local gun shop on sale for 349$ the trigger in my opinion is lacking, but of course they need to be broken in. I do have a question for you though since you are an expert and have experience getting a milled sight relief cut. Does the loaded chamber indicator on the Canik prevent you from being able to do the milling for the RMR red dot? Thanks for your time and great video!!
I have a Sar K2p and just purchased the tisas zagana px9 g2. Found out the K2p fits the holster that came with the px9 better actual no rattling. Just wanted to put that out there as a FYI. Great vid Doc. Also got a Fobus Standard Holster RH Paddle SP11 for the k2p but the Px9 fits it better.
yup. these people didn't work on their own cars. They didn't spend money that they had to save from their jobs on it either. They ARE mostly kids or they're settlement recipients who spent their money to have shops do their work for them and it means nothing to them to throw a rod or bust a camshaft after 60 seconds of flooring the gas with their F***in car in park. Real car enthusiasts don't do that kind of S**!. Real car enthusiasts know their vehicles, they don't destroy them and they certainly don't go around intentionally trying to annoy everyone because most real car enthusiasts are doing their own work, funded by their own money and because of that they have a sense of respect for their own property and their own integrity.
to add to this: I feel the same way about the fake Jeep people who shove 35's under their jeeps, strain the driveline to it's absolute breaking point, shim the wheels out until it barely drives a straight line and then run the headers straight out the back and screw with the idle control because now it won't idle at anything under 3k rpm....okay - you want your jeep to run like absolute Dog$##^, I guess that's your perogative but stop trying to convince us all that we're not REAL off-roaders if we don't want to do the same thing to our cars.
I have a large hand and prefer the px-9 over the canik or sar. It gives you the feel of a full sized pistol but with a much shorter barrel and easier to conceal compared to a larger pistol. That's just my opinion. Works better for me.
I had the Canik awhile ago,loved the trigger but didn't like the way it felt in my hand. I saw a Tisas PX9 Gen 3 the other day at a range I go to shoot and buy USED GUNS. I like what they did to the grip and the trigger. I'm thinking about POSSIBLY maybe getting one, it's $399.99 which I thought wasn't too bad considering the shop has a indoor range and they give a 30 day FREE RANGE TIME with a weapon purchase which is GREAT. BECAUSE OF THAT I'VE BOUGHT QUITE A FEW WEAPONS FROM THEM OVER THE PASS 20YEARS.😁👍
Not trying to be _that_ guy who shows up in every comment section to "well actually" you BUT... Much like JMB's magazine disconnect safety in the GP-35 (Browning hi-power), the manual thumb safety was more often than not, an afterthought. Many of the designs put forth for military trials were *required* by those conducting the trials to have more than one mechanical safety. Which, in my mind, is probably why the thumb safety mechanism on some of his designs are so diminutive and sometimes seem slightly out of place. 🌈🌈🦄🦄⚔🛡🇺🇸
If something works and the patent expired, why not use it? Most firearms are generally a copy of someone design like John Moses Browning or improved variants of Johann Nikolaus von Dreyse needle bolt action rifle.
There are 2 models of the PX-9 one has the manual thumb safety and a curved trigger and the other is manual safety delete with a Canik Elite style flat faced trigger. I have handled both and have to say the one with the Canik style trigger shoe does have a better pull, break, and reset; not a SF Elite, Mete, Rival, or Combat Executive grade action but pretty darn close. Now all these 3 companies need to do is make a 10mm model and it's a wrap.
My New SAR9T I just bought fell apart field stripping it and slide would even come off the gun never even been fire. SAR9T use cheap polymer roll pin falls out gun when pull frame levers down on the gun for field stripping. Once polymer roll pin comes out your SAR9T disables your trigger until put back in gun. So want really cheap made handgun gun fall part can not field strip get SAR9. If your smart you buy Canik.
@@Sukhoj72 Yeah, but its a moot point now since the official pronunciation for the US market is now "Kanik". All their reps now pronounce it with a hard C.
So..... I was at a pawn shop and held a sar2000.... Omggggg it felt amazingggg . The slide was buterrrrrrrrrrrry smooth. Idk how they got it so smooth.
I hope you get your hands on a Girsan Regard... if you like Beretta 92 series, you're gonna LOVE this!! Girsan is another awesome company their guns are pretty bad ass!
Great guns, and you're telling me the one I don't have is better than the two I do have. Girsan and Stoeger want to know why they are stepchildren in your Turkish roundup? Hogue XD grips made my PX-9 a chunky soft shooter that feels great in the hand. My Tp9 sf elite has a huge slide stop, so that criticism does not apply to the whole line. Side note, my Taurus G3 takes the PX-9 mags (P226 pattern) and TP9 mags (with no Last Round Bolt Hold Open). However, my only failure with the G3 was with a TP9 mag in it.
Turkish gun manufacturers make superb modern combat handguns of high quality at affordable fair prices. I like all three pistols, being Canik my personal favorite but I have nothing against SAR or Tisa. People that reject or despise Turkish made pistols have no idea of how good they are because they haven't care to even try something different than Glock. Their loss!
*Tisas. Thanks for commenting!
its plain and simple hubris.
@@DCopp I own a Tisas 1911a1 Tanker, and I love that pistol! I've met some people that were like "Your gun is Turkish?" Like it's junk. Turks have been making quality firearms for CENTURIES! They conquered much of the Middle East and all of SE Europe with firearm technology mostly. It was their cannons that took down the "impregnable" walls of Constantinople in 1453...
@@kevinstachovak8842 I like Turk guns too. I am trying to find another Tisas Zigana F right now. They seem to be nowhere.
@@DCopp I want one too! And a Browning High-Power, and a PSAK 47, and...hell who am I kidding, I'd have to be rather wealthy to own all the guns I want, like a 9mm Luger. **DROOLS**
Big Glock and cz guy here. I bought a sar bp6c 6-7 years ago when they came out (polymer cz75 clone) I think it was 279 bucks. Put a couple thousand rounds through it and sold it for more than I paid a few years laters. I bought a zigana px9 during the pandemic for 309. I actually did a 1K round review here on TH-cam. There wasn’t any info on them at the time. I just saw a gen3 version the other day and plan on picking one up due to the optics cut, Glock sights and flat faced trigger. I like they kept the p226 mags on the gen3’s
Thanks!
Yup
The Turks are really making some great hand guns would you say they are giving US made handguns a run for there money I have several different makes and they all work flawlessly, I came across a few things that were adaptable but after a few test rounds that problem was eliminated doesn't take long to adjust to. And the best thing is the affordability,plus they have great names for each 👍
The Zigana PX-9 G2 is costing 1400 USD here in Brazil, despite all the import taxes. The CZ P10c is over 2k USD.
We're seeing some Glocks Gen3 for 1500 USD but these Tisas really look interesting.
And the Stöeger STR-9, which is made in Turkey too. I was expecting the brazilian-made licensed version of the slovenian Arex Delta Gen2 to be around 1200 but they're charging 1500 too.
So I'm really wondering which one should I aim for...the Sarsilmaz SR9 looks interesting too.
Canik sadly didn't show up here yet.
My first handgun was a sar9. I switched to Canik because the magazines are interchangeable and better triggers.
Agreed
Glad you made the comment about your kids and the safety. I wish more people would think like you.
BOUGHT 2 TISA ZIGANA 3 MONTHS APART, LOVE THE GUNS.
I have 2 Caniks ( TP9SFX, and Rival Darkside) and I have the Sar 9x Platinum edition. I must say they are definitely exceptional pistols. I have heard about Tisas pistols also being very well made but I haven't shot with one yet. It does look as if the US markets are starting to take notice of Canik and Sar because I have seen an uptick in their prices the past year. Tisas is probably just behind due to them being newer in the market but I'm sure that they too will be appreciated for their quality here in the near future. I'm very happy with my Turkish pistols and I actually enjoy shooting with them more than my glock.
I do too
@@DCopp Great video by the way. Very informative and I think more people will learn just how awesome these Turkish pistols really are in the very near future.
I really like my G17 Gen 5, but somehow I mostly carry a Tisas 1911A1 Tanker. I really adore that pistol
@@kevinstachovak8842 you're a dying breed. I'd never carry a 1911 over a Glock.
Canik sfx Rival my new favorite pistol. Very nice
I bought a Sar B6 about 3 months ago. I’ve put about 1k rounds through it with no problems. I paid $199 for the thing. I’m blown away by its accuracy, build quality, and reliability. I bought a 19 round extended CZ75 mag and a standard 17 round CZ75 mag and both run flawlessly. It’s my EDC. I love it.
I have the TP9SF as well as the PX9... both are exceptional firearms. Looking at picking up a SAR soon. And yes, I own several Glocks.
Sweet
I've been looking to pick one of these up and am stuck between these two, would you prefer one over the other and is the TP9SF worth 80$ more?
@@hunterhansen87 which two?
@@DCopp Tp9sf and px9
@@hunterhansen87 both are good. The Canik is better IMHO. I just sold my PX-9 and replaced it with an XDm 4.5 9mm. The Canik trigger is glorious!
@Snake Doc, Thanks for the video, nice job! One suggestion would be to include the trigger pull for each gun. I agree Canik's are great values and also have lifetime warranties. It looks like the Zigada and SAR only have a 1 year warranty...
1. Canik
2. Tisas
3. SAR
@@DCopp Much appreciated!
Thanks for the tip on the 320 magazine bodies !
Your rankings SAR9 #1 / TP9SF #2 / Zigana PX-9 #3 .... Very much appreciate your video presentation.
Currently I can order a SAR9 for $249.99 and get a $30 rebate. Would you say that is a no brainer purchase?
Yes
@Kevin Allies I bought a SAR9 and have now received it. I agree! It is a great pistol. Especially for the price I paid.
the PX9 is my nightstand gun as well. haha. I was surprised at just how good it was when I got it. I really didn't expect much at that price point but my god, they made a good firearm straight out of the box - and with how light the trigger is on mine, I'm pretty happy that it came with a manual safety. I do agree if I could change anything about the Tisas it would be that very bottom of the grip, I eventually ended up putting the small size grip panels on it to combat that a little bit - at some point if I ever run out of other projects or I get super creative and need a break from the other projects I may end up molding my own back panel for it - but again, for the price it's really hard to beat.
me 2 with a light love turk guns
Great video. I have all three. They are excellent pistols.
Hello! Of the 3 which is your favorite?
@@livingthedream335 also please indicate which one should title groups
The custom cerakote color of the Sar9 slide gives off RoboCop vibes… 🤙
enjoyed this video. i have a tisas px9 on order. i have tisas 19ll. best value on a great firearm. my favorite is the canik. i have 3. small, medium and large. my best gun without a red dot the tp9sf elite.
Which one is better for smaller hands? I'm going with the Sar9 and the Optic comes for $389for all n love the colors. My first handgun lol
I ve used more than 200 handguns and PX9 is by far my favourite pistol ever
Good job on the pistols...
Have/had them all and I live both in the US and Turkey.
1. Stoeger
2. Canik
3. Sarsilmaz
4. All the other polymers have a long way to go. But they'll get there.
My $0.02
Thank you, great presentation.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent review video sir! I expect more people will watch this soon since the Tisas gun was featured in an NRA magazine recently. You really hit all of the points a fella should on a gun review. The only thing I can add to the convo is that I recently dry fired a SAR at a local gun shop on sale for 349$ the trigger in my opinion is lacking, but of course they need to be broken in. I do have a question for you though since you are an expert and have experience getting a milled sight relief cut. Does the loaded chamber indicator on the Canik prevent you from being able to do the milling for the RMR red dot? Thanks for your time and great video!!
Girsan is the another turkish made pistol
Correct. I have a few
@@DCopp How do they stack up against these?
@@wesleycristman3278 I've had some good Girsan guns on my channel
I have a Sar K2p and just purchased the tisas zagana px9 g2. Found out the K2p fits the holster that came with the px9 better actual no rattling. Just wanted to put that out there as a FYI. Great vid Doc.
Also got a Fobus Standard Holster RH Paddle SP11 for the k2p but the Px9 fits it better.
Where did you get the k2p?... Classic
yup. these people didn't work on their own cars. They didn't spend money that they had to save from their jobs on it either. They ARE mostly kids or they're settlement recipients who spent their money to have shops do their work for them and it means nothing to them to throw a rod or bust a camshaft after 60 seconds of flooring the gas with their F***in car in park. Real car enthusiasts don't do that kind of S**!. Real car enthusiasts know their vehicles, they don't destroy them and they certainly don't go around intentionally trying to annoy everyone because most real car enthusiasts are doing their own work, funded by their own money and because of that they have a sense of respect for their own property and their own integrity.
to add to this: I feel the same way about the fake Jeep people who shove 35's under their jeeps, strain the driveline to it's absolute breaking point, shim the wheels out until it barely drives a straight line and then run the headers straight out the back and screw with the idle control because now it won't idle at anything under 3k rpm....okay - you want your jeep to run like absolute Dog$##^, I guess that's your perogative but stop trying to convince us all that we're not REAL off-roaders if we don't want to do the same thing to our cars.
I have a large hand and prefer the px-9 over the canik or sar. It gives you the feel of a full sized pistol but with a much shorter barrel and easier to conceal compared to a larger pistol. That's just my opinion. Works better for me.
Canik has other smaller offerings as well as a 4" model the TP9DA
You don't have to push back the slide in order to take apart the tp9sf.
Correct. Most people assume they have to, because they haven't read the manual. You just pull down the levers and push the slide out.
I had the Canik awhile ago,loved the trigger but didn't like the way it felt in my hand. I saw a Tisas PX9 Gen 3 the other day at a range I go to shoot and buy USED GUNS. I like what they did to the grip and the trigger. I'm thinking about POSSIBLY maybe getting one, it's $399.99 which I thought wasn't too bad considering the shop has a indoor range and they give a 30 day FREE RANGE TIME with a weapon purchase which is GREAT. BECAUSE OF THAT I'VE BOUGHT QUITE A FEW WEAPONS FROM THEM OVER THE PASS 20YEARS.😁👍
Awful price
Funny I was wondering when Canik would bring out version that takes Glock mags. They are a great pistol.
I like having Manual Safeties, for which make No Apologies.
Obviously, John Browning also thought that they were a good ideas as well.
Not trying to be _that_ guy who shows up in every comment section to "well actually" you BUT...
Much like JMB's magazine disconnect safety in the GP-35 (Browning hi-power), the manual thumb safety was more often than not, an afterthought. Many of the designs put forth for military trials were *required* by those conducting the trials to have more than one mechanical safety. Which, in my mind, is probably why the thumb safety mechanism on some of his designs are so diminutive and sometimes seem slightly out of place.
🌈🌈🦄🦄⚔🛡🇺🇸
If something works and the patent expired, why not use it? Most firearms are generally a copy of someone design like John Moses Browning or improved variants of Johann Nikolaus von Dreyse needle bolt action rifle.
There are 2 models of the PX-9 one has the manual thumb safety and a curved trigger and the other is manual safety delete with a Canik Elite style flat faced trigger. I have handled both and have to say the one with the Canik style trigger shoe does have a better pull, break, and reset; not a SF Elite, Mete, Rival, or Combat Executive grade action but pretty darn close.
Now all these 3 companies need to do is make a 10mm model and it's a wrap.
I GOT THE ZIGANA PX9 AND IM TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD THROW A COMPENSATOR ON IT.... RAIL MOUNTED OR THAT MASS DRIVER
My New SAR9T I just bought fell apart field stripping it and slide would even come off the gun never even been fire. SAR9T use cheap polymer roll pin falls out gun when pull frame levers down on the gun for field stripping. Once polymer roll pin comes out your SAR9T disables your trigger until put back in gun. So want really cheap made handgun gun fall part can not field strip get SAR9. If your smart you buy Canik.
This is the first bad thing I have heard about a sar9
The C in Canik is actually pronounced J - Janik just in case you want to say it the way they would in Turkey :)
Isnt it more like a Ch, like in Chai?
@@Ali-7676 It's more like Djanik
@@Sukhoj72 Yeah, but its a moot point now since the official pronunciation for the US market is now "Kanik". All their reps now pronounce it with a hard C.
@@Ali-7676 Yes, you're right. Just wanted to point out how normally pronounced as in Turkish
@@Sukhoj72 Thanks man. My TP9SFx is by far my favorite handgun in my collection...so reliable, so accurate, so smooth.
So.....
I was at a pawn shop and held a sar2000.... Omggggg it felt amazingggg . The slide was buterrrrrrrrrrrry smooth. Idk how they got it so smooth.
My B6 (check my vids) is smooth too
@@DCopp I've been looking at those online actually... 🧐🤔.
Checking out the video now
Very good reviews 👍👍👍👍.
Thank you for making a this video , good job. I'd like to know where can I get the replacement manual safety for my sar9?
Replacement or removal?
@@DCopp removal .
@@mariolnunez6691 Instructor@defensiveconceptsmi.com
SAR9 !!
If the light protrudes beyond the muzzle, it's a good thing (in case of a contact shot)....jesayin. Good video.
I hope you get your hands on a Girsan Regard... if you like Beretta 92 series, you're gonna LOVE this!!
Girsan is another awesome company their guns are pretty bad ass!
You need to watch my other videos
I don't believe that such a thing as a "Trigger Safety" Exists.
It's a drop safety. Sig learned that the hard way with the P320...
The trigger safety is ALWAYS keeping your finger off the trigger until you have acquired your target.
@@jameswarner3450 the trigger safety is a drop safety. That's what the problem was with the p320
Can I get a link to the light and sights for the PX9?
I like the SAR9
Great content
Great guns, and you're telling me the one I don't have is better than the two I do have. Girsan and Stoeger want to know why they are stepchildren in your Turkish roundup? Hogue XD grips made my PX-9 a chunky soft shooter that feels great in the hand. My Tp9 sf elite has a huge slide stop, so that criticism does not apply to the whole line. Side note, my Taurus G3 takes the PX-9 mags (P226 pattern) and TP9 mags (with no Last Round Bolt Hold Open). However, my only failure with the G3 was with a TP9 mag in it.
Dopey you had that on the Sar9, but chose to remove it. Why waste the time and effort to do that?
Dopey?
You need to check out the Gen 3 PX-9
Amazing
I have it
Have you found any hostlers for the px9?
Holsters, yes. I use one for an XD9 and a Safariland 578 GLS wide standard
I cant seem to find a light that fits on my 2 PX9 G1. Im not sure if i got lemons or not. Ive stopped trying to buy lights for them.
Try Olight PL mini
@DCopp is that like the Valkrie mini? I've tried the Valkrie mini and it doesn't fit.
@@joeltowle2737 no. The PL has a sliding rail
@DCopp the olight mini Valkrie has a sliding rail too. I love it so much my other pistols have them too.
Carregador da sar9 serve na canik?
EKOL ES P92 🙏🏼🇹🇷
Where did you get the pin to replace the manual safety?
I made it from a bolt
i just say Canik, Tisas 45 is nice
I just bought another tp9sf tonight. Stay tuned!!!
@@DCopp how much ?
@@DCopp I want the Tisas 9 mm with optic setup
@@DCopp doc just got back from the shop the Tara 9 mm broke in the store, no b.s. would not hit DA worked at first
@@chillios2222 montenegro is no Turkey! Lol
Why the hell are you people so scared of a safety on a gun
Redundancy can get u killed
@@DCopp A safety wont get u killed so please
Did you ever get the sad to run right
SAR9
@@stevenhess5528 yes. I lapped the slide to the rails, thoroughly cleaned it, and lubed heavily. It runs good again.
Excellent, if you can, pm me with the safety pin. Thanks.
@@stevenhess5528 email me at Instructor@defensiveconceptsmi.com
Number wone Tisaş☺🥰
No Girsan ?
I have lots of Girsan vids
u didnt talk about px 9 barral
What about it?