Police don't fix crime -- social support systems do. Redistributing some funds from police to social support systems should show a relative decline in crime rates.
@@deutschlandbrauchtmehrausl2214 "Police are white supremacists" How do you figure that? "a majority of them are white" In majority-white nations that is not surprising. "and need to be defunded completely," How do you stop already violent aggressors? Social workers? "a social system would fair much better." What do you base this claim on?
@@jacobmatthews6527 Its obvious and clear that a social worker would be much better in deescalating violent situations. Cops are white supremacists and that is a fact based on how they behave like Neo-Nazi groups socially. “Majority white nation” Thankfully only 30% of kids under 15 are fully white.
@@deutschlandbrauchtmehrausl2214 "Its obvious and clear that a social worker would be much better in deescalating violent situations." I specifically used the phrase "already violent". Social workers may do impressive work, but they do not possess forcefields that stop bullets or knives. Even if social workers were to be deployed, they would still need to be escorted by police for their own protection. "Cops are white supremacists and that is a fact based on how they behave like Neo-Nazi groups socially." Could you be more specific? Which behaviours? How prevalent are those behaviours? How have you determined those behaviours stem from white supremacist ideas? "Thankfully only 30% of kids under 15 are fully white." 1. That does not change the fact that majority-white police forces are expected in majority-white countries. 2. Your use of the word "thankfully" makes it seem you are a racist. Just know that I noticed that.
Going from the opening of this video. I thought it would take a less linear angle on violence. It looked like it would address how people are manipulated to violence. But it then descends into largely gang violence in poverty stricken areas. Violence isn't a disease, it is a tool of manipulation. It isn't a disease that minorities in cities suffer from. What of the cop that shoots an unarmed black man, or stomps down on their neck until they die? Is that a disease, or is that events of western society that manipulate the cop into believing that is justified. What of the ex-president, that spitefully manipulates followers to storm the capitol, 5 people die, and he gets cleared of any responsibility, as he always does with any charge. What of all the violence he incited/manipulated while in office. Manipulating protest groups to violence, then saying, "See, they are the bad guys, they are terrorists!" Manipulating supporters to violence as well. When soldiers go to war, under some idea, which may or may not be the actual reason, to kill people of another country, they never met and really have no idea who they actually are, and vice versa with those people. Both sides have been manipulated into believing the other side are the evil ones Violence is a tool of manipulation, to distract people from evolving.
I don't want totally poo poo something that has been shown to have great results, but I don't think this framework covers the entirety of violence. I believe for long term success, including economic solutions would go the last mile. If a group of people are having a hard time making ends meet, violence can be a tool to try and alleviate some of that hardship. Is it a good tool? No, it is most certainly an overall bad one, cause as stated in the video it just continues to hurt the community as a whole, by violence creating more violence. This hypothetical means there will likely be a certain % that just continue to use violence in this way due to poor opportunities, despite the great and wonderful efforts by so many. Pushed long enough within that economic depression/repression, individuals utilizing violence as a tool for alleviating said hardship will no doubt point out the hypocrisy of those getting paid to say "calm down" to those who think/feel they cannot afford to calm down because they feel the opportunities afforded to them don't allow a way out of it. I fear, over enough time, the very real merits of the system they are implementing here will be eroded/challenged by the fact people still feel trapped in their economic hardships. That said, maybe they ARE keenly aware of this, and just didn't talk about it in the video, because frankly the economics issue in this country is a HUGE systemic problem that will require major and massive efforts by all in order to correct them. I'm curious how they deal with that issue, as I'm sure it comes up.
Yes. Direct violence is almost always ultimately driven by poverty, or an otherwise unjust and nonunderstanding society. It is unfortunate that in these many cases where people turn to violence because of their desperation, they almost always target their peers. The only valid target would be the owning class, because their greed is what directly causes the poverty of others. However in these dire situations that people find themselves in, they are often driven to only think for their own survival, rather than the survival of their community. The only way for justice to come out of this is if any violence that does happen is directed towards the owning class, but that will require furthering mutual understanding, education, empathy and the fulfillment of the basic necessities of individual survival. Some of these, this programme does help with.
This is amazing. I wish America didn't invest so much money into our prison/legal system. I see this as a goal that could be accomplished in a couple of years ideally. I mean if you really think about it people are dying daily for gods sake. This could save countless lives but as they said we're so invested in punishing violence instead of treating it that it's getting us nowhere.
Defunding* (in case an onlooker didn't understand) Fully agree! This is true violence prevension. The police industry often exacerbates violence rather than preventing or solving. Fantastic documentary
3:12 It's not compelling that the same power laws are seen in disparate data sets. I think his conclusion is correct (violence is contagious) but this supporting argument has no scientific value.
Interesting video. Makes me hopeful, that at least there is an approach, that has a noticeable and undeniable effect on this particular type/cause of violence. Maybe the title isn't ideal, though, since I at least, rather expected a video linking violence to mental illness from it. Just mentioning it, because I can see, that it hasn't gotten a great many views, so far. Maybe something a little more 'clickbaity' would be in order, to attrakt more attention from potential viewers.
This is great. But.. This story mentions multiple times critical violence makers such as police violence & shootings & bullshit incarceration. However, it says nothing about any solutions for these problems. While addressing community violence is absolutely a nobel & worthy endeavor, something _MUST BE DONE_ about police violence and the miserable injustices of our judicial system. -- Of which I, like countless others, have been, & continue to be, a victim on many occasions. If the system continues to fail me, then why should I reward the system with cooperation and benevolence? I didn't start the fire. I certainly _DID NOT_ keep the fire going by trying to be a "good citizen" for so many years while being treated like garbage.
To an extent, but that's kind of the point. It's about ending chains of violence. The Cure Violence movement and the Interrupters work on huge numbers of individual cases. It's a whole network of people who all work on individual issues. Stating that this is an individualistic portrayal is like stating that doctors and hospitals are individualistic portrayals of disease.
@@RhizometricReality you’re right - this doesn’t address systemic and economic issues, which contribute to the violence these guys are trying to prevent. However, complex problems need to be approached from multiple angles, and this is one of them.
@@TheGoodStuff this is the most covered issue tho. Everyone knows interpersonal violence is a problem. And there's a whole industry around trying to resolve that, with its own problematic functions.
No one's hampered the police in 50 years. Police take up the majority of most county budgets. Police don't fix crime -- social support systems do. Redistributing some funds from police to social support systems should show a relative decline in crime rates.
This deserves a Nobel peace price..
Seeing this kind of stuff works really gets me seeing a better future
Police don't fix crime -- social support systems do. Redistributing some funds from police to social support systems should show a relative decline in crime rates.
Police are white supremacists a majority of them are white and need to be defunded completely, a social system would fair much better.
@@deutschlandbrauchtmehrausl2214 "Police are white supremacists"
How do you figure that?
"a majority of them are white"
In majority-white nations that is not surprising.
"and need to be defunded completely,"
How do you stop already violent aggressors? Social workers?
"a social system would fair much better."
What do you base this claim on?
@@jacobmatthews6527 Its obvious and clear that a social worker would be much better in deescalating violent situations.
Cops are white supremacists and that is a fact based on how they behave like Neo-Nazi groups socially.
“Majority white nation”
Thankfully only 30% of kids under 15 are fully white.
@@deutschlandbrauchtmehrausl2214 "Its obvious and clear that a social worker would be much better in deescalating violent situations."
I specifically used the phrase "already violent". Social workers may do impressive work, but they do not possess forcefields that stop bullets or knives. Even if social workers were to be deployed, they would still need to be escorted by police for their own protection.
"Cops are white supremacists and that is a fact based on how they behave like Neo-Nazi groups socially."
Could you be more specific?
Which behaviours?
How prevalent are those behaviours?
How have you determined those behaviours stem from white supremacist ideas?
"Thankfully only 30% of kids under 15 are fully white."
1. That does not change the fact that majority-white police forces are expected in majority-white countries.
2. Your use of the word "thankfully" makes it seem you are a racist. Just know that I noticed that.
@@jacobmatthews6527 Deutch's comment about the US police industry being a white supremacist institution is an objective fact. It's in the definition.
Violence begets violence.
Going from the opening of this video. I thought it would take a less linear angle on violence.
It looked like it would address how people are manipulated to violence. But it then descends into largely gang violence in poverty stricken areas. Violence isn't a disease, it is a tool of manipulation. It isn't a disease that minorities in cities suffer from. What of the cop that shoots an unarmed black man, or stomps down on their neck until they die? Is that a disease, or is that events of western society that manipulate the cop into believing that is justified. What of the ex-president, that spitefully manipulates followers to storm the capitol, 5 people die, and he gets cleared of any responsibility, as he always does with any charge. What of all the violence he incited/manipulated while in office. Manipulating protest groups to violence, then saying, "See, they are the bad guys, they are terrorists!"
Manipulating supporters to violence as well. When soldiers go to war, under some idea, which may or may not be the actual reason, to kill people of another country, they never met and really have no idea who they actually are, and vice versa with those people. Both sides have been manipulated into believing the other side are the evil ones Violence is a tool of manipulation, to distract people from evolving.
agreed
I don't want totally poo poo something that has been shown to have great results, but I don't think this framework covers the entirety of violence. I believe for long term success, including economic solutions would go the last mile. If a group of people are having a hard time making ends meet, violence can be a tool to try and alleviate some of that hardship. Is it a good tool? No, it is most certainly an overall bad one, cause as stated in the video it just continues to hurt the community as a whole, by violence creating more violence. This hypothetical means there will likely be a certain % that just continue to use violence in this way due to poor opportunities, despite the great and wonderful efforts by so many. Pushed long enough within that economic depression/repression, individuals utilizing violence as a tool for alleviating said hardship will no doubt point out the hypocrisy of those getting paid to say "calm down" to those who think/feel they cannot afford to calm down because they feel the opportunities afforded to them don't allow a way out of it. I fear, over enough time, the very real merits of the system they are implementing here will be eroded/challenged by the fact people still feel trapped in their economic hardships. That said, maybe they ARE keenly aware of this, and just didn't talk about it in the video, because frankly the economics issue in this country is a HUGE systemic problem that will require major and massive efforts by all in order to correct them. I'm curious how they deal with that issue, as I'm sure it comes up.
Yes. Direct violence is almost always ultimately driven by poverty, or an otherwise unjust and nonunderstanding society. It is unfortunate that in these many cases where people turn to violence because of their desperation, they almost always target their peers. The only valid target would be the owning class, because their greed is what directly causes the poverty of others. However in these dire situations that people find themselves in, they are often driven to only think for their own survival, rather than the survival of their community. The only way for justice to come out of this is if any violence that does happen is directed towards the owning class, but that will require furthering mutual understanding, education, empathy and the fulfillment of the basic necessities of individual survival. Some of these, this programme does help with.
This is amazing. I wish America didn't invest so much money into our prison/legal system. I see this as a goal that could be accomplished in a couple of years ideally. I mean if you really think about it people are dying daily for gods sake. This could save countless lives but as they said we're so invested in punishing violence instead of treating it that it's getting us nowhere.
I'm really blown away by this idea. I think I'm going to have to learn more about it.
Please make a video how this relates to prisons in Finland. Awesome video and channel
Watching this brought me to tears. Defending the police doesn't mean you want anarchy. These folks are doing REAL good work. They must feel so proud.
Defunding* (in case an onlooker didn't understand)
Fully agree! This is true violence prevension. The police industry often exacerbates violence rather than preventing or solving. Fantastic documentary
This is great. Thanks for putting it together and sharing it.
This is a very interesting approach to reducing violence. Its success so far makes me very hopeful for the future. Thank you for making this video!
This is amazing!
God bless you Gary
3:12 It's not compelling that the same power laws are seen in disparate data sets. I think his conclusion is correct (violence is contagious) but this supporting argument has no scientific value.
@@zUJ7EjVD illustrative rather than evidential? Okay. It illustrates a stupid thought process that has no scientific value.
Interesting video. Makes me hopeful, that at least there is an approach, that has a noticeable and undeniable effect on this particular type/cause of violence.
Maybe the title isn't ideal, though, since I at least, rather expected a video linking violence to mental illness from it. Just mentioning it, because I can see, that it hasn't gotten a great many views, so far.
Maybe something a little more 'clickbaity' would be in order, to attrakt more attention from potential viewers.
Something probably worth mentioning is that people suffering from mental illness are more often the victim of violence than the ones being violent.
This is great. But..
This story mentions multiple times critical violence makers such as police violence & shootings & bullshit incarceration. However, it says nothing about any solutions for these problems.
While addressing community violence is absolutely a nobel & worthy endeavor, something _MUST BE DONE_ about police violence and the miserable injustices of our judicial system. -- Of which I, like countless others, have been, & continue to be, a victim on many occasions.
If the system continues to fail me, then why should I reward the system with cooperation and benevolence?
I didn't start the fire.
I certainly _DID NOT_ keep the fire going by trying to be a "good citizen" for so many years while being treated like garbage.
Wytys fault
comment to boost the algorithm
5:30 from the inside out. Because it worked
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You didn't consider talking to criminologists more?
Do you have a point you would like to share with us?
Violence is always a choice.
This is a very individualistic portraying of violence
To an extent, but that's kind of the point. It's about ending chains of violence.
The Cure Violence movement and the Interrupters work on huge numbers of individual cases. It's a whole network of people who all work on individual issues.
Stating that this is an individualistic portrayal is like stating that doctors and hospitals are individualistic portrayals of disease.
@@FilledCircle this fails to address systemic and economic violences
@@RhizometricReality you’re right - this doesn’t address systemic and economic issues, which contribute to the violence these guys are trying to prevent. However, complex problems need to be approached from multiple angles, and this is one of them.
@@TheGoodStuff this is the most covered issue tho. Everyone knows interpersonal violence is a problem. And there's a whole industry around trying to resolve that, with its own problematic functions.
@@TheGoodStuff Idea channels What is Violence is a great entry point
How hard is it to figure out that hampering the police is why crime is rising
No one's hampered the police in 50 years. Police take up the majority of most county budgets. Police don't fix crime -- social support systems do. Redistributing some funds from police to social support systems should show a relative decline in crime rates.
Pretty hard? This sort of simplification of issues is what gave us the war on terror - which absolutely gave us more terror
People turns to crime when their needs aren't meant. That why poverty is the biggest predictor of crime.
Crime has been high
You really thought you did something huh eugene
So many ads it's unwatchable, disliked and unsubbed 👎🏼
10:00 "i axed the probation officer" - how did he get away with that?
No but your videos are.
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