Just a heads up for the future "anti-static" bags are conductive on the outside. The way they work is they are supposed to not let static pass through to the inside by creating easier paths on the outside for electricity to pass. It's pretty high resistance so the chance for shorting stuff out by running a motherboard on the bag is low but not impossible so you should really just use the bare cardboard box without the bag for bench testing.
Hey glad you could overcome this error. Some brazilian tech channels bought these boards and started trying different configs. If you're experiencing the boot loop it might help you deactivating the virtualization before installing Windows and then activating it again after you installed it. I am myself using the i7 version of it.
I have the non ES (retail) variant with the 11850h and have had exactly zero issues. It's been rock solid even using the integrated graphics connected to a 4k TV. I wonder if it's just a roll of the dice with the ES version. It's an odd setup but so far it's worked great and it's always fun to work with these slightly off the wall platforms.
I have the 11900H ES and had to try a lot of drivers to find the one that works, still problems sometimes with the overlay. The mobo says the graphics is UHD but it should be Iris XE. I had to force it on. Not working at all with the latest driver.
I bought the 11800H ES board and it was fairly trouble free. My initial testing was done on the iGPU, and I did have some real issues when it came to synthetic graphics benchmarks even with drivers installed. After adding a dedicated GPU, I've only ever had one crash in the month that it has been my gaming rig.
I really want to finish the Tandy sleeper build but I just haven’t had the time to design a few of the 3d printed parts I still need. Hopefully, I can get it out soon for SepTandy 2023.
FWIW I have two of these boards. One of them I installed proxmox and it's been solid, zero problems. The second I installed Win10 and it installed fine, but the moment the graphics driver was update it boot looped. Adding a discrete card fixed the problem, but I REALLY wanted integrated graphics working. After alot of trial and error I ended up going with Win11, and that worked without issue. It is now my daily driver and has been flawless. Incredible deal.
I eventually got integrated graphics working too ( th-cam.com/video/zc_-TAtnqSM/w-d-xo.html ), but the easiest thing to do is supposedly to disable virtualization during the install then re-enable it after the drivers all get updated. I haven't had a chance to test this out myself but if it works, it's a lot less hoops than anything else I've seen.
Something that has helped me is a Ventoy key with multiple test programs like Hiren's and an OS or five. Windows 11 not happy, then try another OS or Hiren's for a RAM test. Glad you got it working!
Be careful about writing to a Ventoy key from both Windows and Linux. I have a couple of such keys that are now "read only" and no internet advice has come up with a fix in over a year. Most annoying that is. @@JerryTravisSmith
Hola, ese problema de Windows 11 se resuelve desactivado la función en bios: Intel (VMX) Virtualitation Technology Se encuentra en: Advanced→CPU Configuration
Posted a top level comment, but reposting here to hopefully help out! Try using the onboard graphics driver from the NUC11BTMi9 or look for something like version 31.0.101.3790 of the Intel UHD Graphics driver, this is a version the onboard works with, the newer versions cause the device to stop working. You'll also need to edit the group policy or registry in order to prevent Windows Update from installing a newer version of the driver.
At least now I know that I have to prepare a dedicated gpu for my incoming erying build. Just in case if I have to deal the same problem you got. Thanks!
I have the i9 variant and on my case after the PC was finished and windows was installed, it would suddenly shut off as if it was a bad pau or if there was a short in the system. I contacted erying and they suggested to post it with 1 ram stick and GPU installed and in uefi mode. Got it to post a rebuilt the PC. Have not had an issue ever since. On the sellers post it says not to use the integrated graphics in legacy mode
Well, I did the install in UEFI mode and 64 bit, which I'm pretty sure isn't Legacy Mode and it still didn't work without a discreate graphics card or using the specific driver version as noted in the video after this one. I'm going to try an installation with virtualization disabled. Several people have suggested this.
Mine was doing the same i added a 3070ti i had to install win 10 then up to win 11. I had to disable core isolation seemed to work no problem after that
Oh yeah! Stock Intel coolers are trash but it's what I had laying around. I put a Noctua on it once I had everything working. lol I don't recall the customs fees exactly, but I *think* it was around $20.
@@JerryTravisSmith Custom fees are the one bad thing about getting anything on AliExpress that is worth more than a few dollars. You don't know about them until you get that 'mystery charge' on your credit card statement. I usually haven't spent more than $20 total on any order, but 20 cents to 1 dollar on each item seems like a way of nickle and diming people to death.
I've been running this mobo for over a year in my daily driver machine...the 11900H board/ES cpu combo, 2tb nvme SSD, a RTX 4070ti, and 64gb DDR4 "TEAMGROUP" memory. I'm having an issue where my windows installation consistently gets corrupted. At first I thought it was a crappy SSD that was dying, but after buying an enclosure and some new name brand nvmes, I learned they weren't dying...just getting corrupted. Reformatting them allows them to be used. But once I install windows, even on a brand new name brand SSD, it gets corrupted in a few weeks or months and windows will not boot, cannot be repaired, and has to be reinstalled the hard way. The windows memory diagnostic reports no issues. Monitoring temps with cpuz and openhardwaremonitor don't' show anything alarming. I am almost at the point of throwing this friggen board away. Any ideas on what I should test/change to try and see why this is happening?
So basically you need an external GPU in order to first boot windows and then if you want your UHD graphic drivers to work, you need to install a separate specific Intel driver...interesting...
Well some people have said if you disable virtualization you can perform the install with no problems. After installation you can re-enable it and it’s supposed to be fine. I haven’t had time to test that out though. Another commenter said he was going to install Windows 10 with no network connection and then install the UHD driver and perform the driver update block, then upgrade to Windows 11. That seemed like a pretty smart work around to having a discrete GPU for the initial install. I haven’t had time to try that either.
The seller gives a link to their own drivers for the integrated graphics card, all other drivers, including drivers installed by the operating system itself, do not fit there.
I got mine in and i get random crashes in linux. so i tried windows 10 and 11 where i get a bsod even if use a dedicated gpu and disable virtualization. losing my mind. if anyone has some advice im open to trying
@@JerryTravisSmith Very nice. Back in highschool we had basic, C++, and logo programming classes. When I was *supposed* to be doin programming homework at home, it was gorillas on a frankensteined 286 instead lol good times. Also, someone put it as a playable dosbox game on a website online too.
Bro one question have please answer me. I want to know if the rtx 3090 graphics card that was given to me will work on my computer or not? I should mention that I use after effect and 3ds max programs, I don't want a game. My pc details. İntel e5 2689 8 core 16 threat 128gb 1866mhz x79 motherboard psu 850 wat samsung ssd 980 pro 2tb
It should work fine. I think the chipset and CPU might bottleneck the card a bit, but as long as your PSU has enough 4 pin connectors for the 3090 you should be ok. (I don’t know for sure because I always have semi-slow GPUs so I’ve never physically touched an 80 or 90 class card. 😂)
I've spoken to some other Tech tubers. They strongly recommend against using Chinese branded SSDs with Chinese branded motherboards. Both mobo and SSD are both from same source. He should have used a well known brand for the the SSD Nvme drive.
@@Aspiring-Hobo sorry, wrote that late in night. Recommend against, due to the Chinese branded mobo not seeing the Chinese branded SSD from BIOS. From what I learned the well known brands of mobo Asus, MSI, Gigabyte are fine with lesser known brands of SSDs
I think the CPU/chipset implementation on this board is very suspect. Intel probably never imagined something like this would be cobbled together. The drivers are probably like "What are we supposed to do with this? Oh well...here goes!" and Blue Screen of Death! I have figured out easier and easier ways to deal with the crashes during install (check out my other two Erying motherboard videos). But I bought this board because it is weird (mobile chip on a desktop board) as a machine to tinker with. I'm hopeful to get the thing mounted in the old Tandy case very soon!
This board is perfect for that! I really don’t know what I’ll use the Tandy sleeper for…other than being a Tandy sleeper. 🤣 But in my mind that’s good enough.
windows 10 устанавливается нормально на эти платы и потом обновляется до win11, а баг с установкой win11 происходит скорее всего чисто из-за кривого биос
Этот баг только при установки винды, у неё видимо неподходящие дравера в комплекте. Ставишь винду с внешней картой, потом драйвера встроенной графики с сайта Erying и встроенное видео дальше работает без нареканий.
@@JerryTravisSmith yes I did. I finally got it to work. I did the repair of the install and it took about 40 minutes but then bam it all worked. Not sure what the magic was but now it's up running smooth!
@@lepoopysmack Excellent. I’m glad you got it working. It’s so frustrating until you get it lined out. On my board, I did notice when I did a cloud repair, it would get a little further before crashing even with integrated graphics. There is definitely some difference between the USB install and the cloud download install. I assume the cloud install is more up to date while the USB install media creator probably gets frozen at each feature release and doesn’t get the cumulative updates. That’s pure conjecture on my part, but I did actually make it to the OoBE screens with the cloud download.
I noticed something really weird with my repair and the moment everything started working. I was using the RX 5700 the whole time and it displayed out but during the repair the fans kicked on and then everything started to work after that. That was about 10 minutes or so into the repair process. Still super weird but hey at least it's working!
Someone said that this cpu can use 180w power! A great mobile cpu i had never seen! So i bought one 12700h version! The seller said that it is not a es .
Techyescity just reviewed this board himself and said it has the singular worst VRM solutions he's ever seen. And he's all about price to performance stuff. So he's used a lot of jank over the years.
Oh yes! Brian knows his stuff and I agree. This is definitely a super janky board. I’m fascinated by these weird Chinese amalgamations. I have no plans on doing anything serious with it. It seems like the perfect solution for my Tandy sleeper build. If it blows up in a year, I’ll just swap out to something different. 😊
Thats true, mine consumes 125 Wats from the wall using 45W TDP on the CPU.(integrated graphics, 1 nvme ssd, 32GB RAM). When on 85W TDP it uses up to 220W... crazy. under stress testing ofc.
There’s no way I’d do anything mission critical with it. I basically bought it because it is strange and I figured it’d make a funny basis for my Tandy sleeper.
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Just a heads up for the future "anti-static" bags are conductive on the outside. The way they work is they are supposed to not let static pass through to the inside by creating easier paths on the outside for electricity to pass. It's pretty high resistance so the chance for shorting stuff out by running a motherboard on the bag is low but not impossible so you should really just use the bare cardboard box without the bag for bench testing.
This is very useful tips
Thank you
Hey glad you could overcome this error. Some brazilian tech channels bought these boards and started trying different configs. If you're experiencing the boot loop it might help you deactivating the virtualization before installing Windows and then activating it again after you installed it. I am myself using the i7 version of it.
Thanks for the info! There's a lot to learn to get this oddball working well...That's part of the fun! :)
@@JerryTravisSmith Hey no problem. I hope this info might help someone in the future.
I have the non ES (retail) variant with the 11850h and have had exactly zero issues. It's been rock solid even using the integrated graphics connected to a 4k TV. I wonder if it's just a roll of the dice with the ES version. It's an odd setup but so far it's worked great and it's always fun to work with these slightly off the wall platforms.
I have the 11900H ES and had to try a lot of drivers to find the one that works, still problems sometimes with the overlay. The mobo says the graphics is UHD but it should be Iris XE. I had to force it on. Not working at all with the latest driver.
can you overclock it?
@@TituszFekete yeah..
The es versions are fickle.
Better go with the non es.
From the reviews I've seen, they seem to be quite stable.
I bought the 11800H ES board and it was fairly trouble free. My initial testing was done on the iGPU, and I did have some real issues when it came to synthetic graphics benchmarks even with drivers installed. After adding a dedicated GPU, I've only ever had one crash in the month that it has been my gaming rig.
Can you do a review after a year?
Even that nasty old Tandy case deserves better! I'm just playing. Nice video great effort you got her working
I really want to finish the Tandy sleeper build but I just haven’t had the time to design a few of the 3d printed parts I still need. Hopefully, I can get it out soon for SepTandy 2023.
@@JerryTravisSmithHope to see videos of the finished Tandy soon😊 I had an old Tandy 1000 back in the day and loved it
FWIW I have two of these boards. One of them I installed proxmox and it's been solid, zero problems.
The second I installed Win10 and it installed fine, but the moment the graphics driver was update it boot looped. Adding a discrete card fixed the problem, but I REALLY wanted integrated graphics working.
After alot of trial and error I ended up going with Win11, and that worked without issue.
It is now my daily driver and has been flawless. Incredible deal.
I eventually got integrated graphics working too ( th-cam.com/video/zc_-TAtnqSM/w-d-xo.html ), but the easiest thing to do is supposedly to disable virtualization during the install then re-enable it after the drivers all get updated. I haven't had a chance to test this out myself but if it works, it's a lot less hoops than anything else I've seen.
Just for the future, you just Need TP on the copper bit 4:20
Something that has helped me is a Ventoy key with multiple test programs like Hiren's and an OS or five. Windows 11 not happy, then try another OS or Hiren's for a RAM test. Glad you got it working!
Thanks! I need to add Ventoy to my bag of tricks. It looks very cool.
Be careful about writing to a Ventoy key from both Windows and Linux. I have a couple of such keys that are now "read only" and no internet advice has come up with a fix in over a year. Most annoying that is. @@JerryTravisSmith
Hola, ese problema de Windows 11 se resuelve desactivado la función en bios: Intel (VMX) Virtualitation Technology
Se encuentra en: Advanced→CPU Configuration
Hello I have one board similar to that. I connect power the power supply is good but nothing heapends any idea?
Try disabling virtualisation (Intel VMX)!
I intend on doing that the next time I have a chance to work on the board. I've had a few people suggest that to me. Thanks!
I have the same system and had the same problem. It works extremely well with a discrete graphics card.
The plastic MOBO bag, does it not have a metallic coating that could short contacts on board? Just a thought. Idk for sure.
Had the exact same issue and hours later, put in the GPU and no issues since.
Always glad to know it’s not just me!
Posted a top level comment, but reposting here to hopefully help out!
Try using the onboard graphics driver from the NUC11BTMi9 or look for something like version 31.0.101.3790 of the Intel UHD Graphics driver, this is a version the onboard works with, the newer versions cause the device to stop working. You'll also need to edit the group policy or registry in order to prevent Windows Update from installing a newer version of the driver.
At least now I know that I have to prepare a dedicated gpu for my incoming erying build. Just in case if I have to deal the same problem you got. Thanks!
I have the i9 variant and on my case after the PC was finished and windows was installed, it would suddenly shut off as if it was a bad pau or if there was a short in the system. I contacted erying and they suggested to post it with 1 ram stick and GPU installed and in uefi mode. Got it to post a rebuilt the PC. Have not had an issue ever since. On the sellers post it says not to use the integrated graphics in legacy mode
Well, I did the install in UEFI mode and 64 bit, which I'm pretty sure isn't Legacy Mode and it still didn't work without a discreate graphics card or using the specific driver version as noted in the video after this one. I'm going to try an installation with virtualization disabled. Several people have suggested this.
Those anti static bags do not prevent static on the outside and can actually cause it, bad idea to ever place electronics on one of them.
Interesting. I did not know this and have built 6-7 systems this way over the years. I guess I’m just really lucky.
This is a mylar bag and is safe to work on. The kind with conductive ink on the outside is unsafe,
as it will short the board as you put it on it.
They also have a 11th/12th gen mini itx motherboard.
12th gen is quite bad in many ways
Same problem on the one I got IGPU worked in Linux but not in Windows.
What kind of temps have you seen with it?
Mine was doing the same i added a 3070ti i had to install win 10 then up to win 11. I had to disable core isolation seemed to work no problem after that
Just started watching. Your cooler is too small.
Also, can you tell me how much you paid in custom fees?
Thanks!
Oh yeah! Stock Intel coolers are trash but it's what I had laying around. I put a Noctua on it once I had everything working. lol
I don't recall the customs fees exactly, but I *think* it was around $20.
@@JerryTravisSmith Custom fees are the one bad thing about getting anything on AliExpress that is worth more than a few dollars.
You don't know about them until you get that 'mystery charge' on your credit card statement. I usually haven't spent more than $20 total on any order, but 20 cents to 1 dollar on each item seems like a way of nickle and diming people to death.
Little late but.. got the Ike and Tina (”Tiny" for the screwdriver name) Turner reference.
Of course, I'm also old...
You should never the mobo hot on the esd bag as its conductive
I've been running this mobo for over a year in my daily driver machine...the 11900H board/ES cpu combo, 2tb nvme SSD, a RTX 4070ti, and 64gb DDR4 "TEAMGROUP" memory.
I'm having an issue where my windows installation consistently gets corrupted. At first I thought it was a crappy SSD that was dying, but after buying an enclosure and some new name brand nvmes, I learned they weren't dying...just getting corrupted. Reformatting them allows them to be used. But once I install windows, even on a brand new name brand SSD, it gets corrupted in a few weeks or months and windows will not boot, cannot be repaired, and has to be reinstalled the hard way.
The windows memory diagnostic reports no issues. Monitoring temps with cpuz and openhardwaremonitor don't' show anything alarming. I am almost at the point of throwing this friggen board away. Any ideas on what I should test/change to try and see why this is happening?
Have you fixed the error?
honestly i dont see it cheap bcoz comparing with by the price you could buy the combo of core i5 12400f+board (chinese brand) or ryzen 5 with mobo+ram
So basically you need an external GPU in order to first boot windows and then if you want your UHD graphic drivers to work, you need to install a separate specific Intel driver...interesting...
Well some people have said if you disable virtualization you can perform the install with no problems. After installation you can re-enable it and it’s supposed to be fine. I haven’t had time to test that out though.
Another commenter said he was going to install Windows 10 with no network connection and then install the UHD driver and perform the driver update block, then upgrade to Windows 11. That seemed like a pretty smart work around to having a discrete GPU for the initial install. I haven’t had time to try that either.
The seller gives a link to their own drivers for the integrated graphics card, all other drivers, including drivers installed by the operating system itself, do not fit there.
I got mine in and i get random crashes in linux. so i tried windows 10 and 11 where i get a bsod even if use a dedicated gpu and disable virtualization. losing my mind. if anyone has some advice im open to trying
It might as well be the crash board.
Ahh, qbasic gorillas, haven't heard that song in forever.
You're the first person to acknowledge that's what that tune is! 🦍🍌🏫🏢🏦🏦🏨🍌🦍 😊😊😊
@@JerryTravisSmith Very nice. Back in highschool we had basic, C++, and logo programming classes. When I was *supposed* to be doin programming homework at home, it was gorillas on a frankensteined 286 instead lol good times. Also, someone put it as a playable dosbox game on a website online too.
Did you guys change anything from the bios? Unable to install with RTX3080, windows install keeps boot looping and nothing seems to help :(
I did not. But a commenter mentioned disabling virtualization can sometimes stop the boot looping.
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Bro one question have please answer me. I want to know if the rtx 3090 graphics card that was given to me will work on my computer or not? I should mention that I use after effect and 3ds max programs, I don't want a game.
My pc details. İntel e5 2689 8 core 16 threat 128gb 1866mhz x79 motherboard psu 850 wat samsung ssd 980 pro 2tb
It should work fine. I think the chipset and CPU might bottleneck the card a bit, but as long as your PSU has enough 4 pin connectors for the 3090 you should be ok. (I don’t know for sure because I always have semi-slow GPUs so I’ve never physically touched an 80 or 90 class card. 😂)
You should do a Minecraft lets play
that's crash , u just disable uninstall PCI data Acquistion and Signal Processing Controller driver
That’s awesome to know. Thanks!
I've spoken to some other Tech tubers. They strongly recommend against using Chinese branded SSDs with Chinese branded motherboards. Both mobo and SSD are both from same source. He should have used a well known brand for the the SSD Nvme drive.
did you mean recommended against using... If not, what's the reason ?
@@Aspiring-Hobo sorry, wrote that late in night. Recommend against, due to the Chinese branded mobo not seeing the Chinese branded SSD from BIOS. From what I learned the well known brands of mobo Asus, MSI, Gigabyte are fine with lesser known brands of SSDs
@@marcc5768no issues here, at least with the Maxsun and Soyo branded motherboards.
put disable virtual machine option bios, for windows 11
Thank you. I plan on doing that that when I get time to work on the sleeper build again.
Windows 10 work?
Maybe it force install bad driver.
I think the CPU/chipset implementation on this board is very suspect. Intel probably never imagined something like this would be cobbled together. The drivers are probably like "What are we supposed to do with this? Oh well...here goes!" and Blue Screen of Death!
I have figured out easier and easier ways to deal with the crashes during install (check out my other two Erying motherboard videos). But I bought this board because it is weird (mobile chip on a desktop board) as a machine to tinker with. I'm hopeful to get the thing mounted in the old Tandy case very soon!
Mine is going to be a killer HTPC.
This board is perfect for that! I really don’t know what I’ll use the Tandy sleeper for…other than being a Tandy sleeper. 🤣 But in my mind that’s good enough.
Windows 10 installs fine. Only problem is windows 11
windows 10 устанавливается нормально на эти платы и потом обновляется до win11, а баг с установкой win11 происходит скорее всего чисто из-за кривого биос
Этот баг только при установки винды, у неё видимо неподходящие дравера в комплекте. Ставишь винду с внешней картой, потом драйвера встроенной графики с сайта Erying и встроенное видео дальше работает без нареканий.
I have mine paired with a rx5700 and still getting the loop.
Did you install Windows from scratch with the RX5700 installed?
@@JerryTravisSmith yes I did. I finally got it to work. I did the repair of the install and it took about 40 minutes but then bam it all worked. Not sure what the magic was but now it's up running smooth!
@@lepoopysmack Excellent. I’m glad you got it working. It’s so frustrating until you get it lined out.
On my board, I did notice when I did a cloud repair, it would get a little further before crashing even with integrated graphics. There is definitely some difference between the USB install and the cloud download install. I assume the cloud install is more up to date while the USB install media creator probably gets frozen at each feature release and doesn’t get the cumulative updates. That’s pure conjecture on my part, but I did actually make it to the OoBE screens with the cloud download.
I noticed something really weird with my repair and the moment everything started working. I was using the RX 5700 the whole time and it displayed out but during the repair the fans kicked on and then everything started to work after that. That was about 10 minutes or so into the repair process. Still super weird but hey at least it's working!
I Had to completly disable the IGPU in the BIOS. I am using a RX6600 with it now. Funny thing is Linux mint works perfect with the IGPU.
Someone said that this cpu can use 180w power! A great mobile cpu i had never seen! So i bought one 12700h version!
The seller said that it is not a es .
92W in Turbo it consumpting for 128 sec maximum, then throttling happening.
Peux-tu faire tes vidéos en français si c'est pas trop te demander ? Merci.
Same issue with onboard video
I posted a comment with some information, maybe it’ll help you out too!
Try this: th-cam.com/video/zc_-TAtnqSM/w-d-xo.html
Techyescity just reviewed this board himself and said it has the singular worst VRM solutions he's ever seen. And he's all about price to performance stuff. So he's used a lot of jank over the years.
Oh yes! Brian knows his stuff and I agree. This is definitely a super janky board. I’m fascinated by these weird Chinese amalgamations. I have no plans on doing anything serious with it. It seems like the perfect solution for my Tandy sleeper build. If it blows up in a year, I’ll just swap out to something different. 😊
Thats true, mine consumes 125 Wats from the wall using 45W TDP on the CPU.(integrated graphics, 1 nvme ssd, 32GB RAM). When on 85W TDP it uses up to 220W... crazy. under stress testing ofc.
The VRM is basically garbage on this board. Im happy i did not buy it.
There’s no way I’d do anything mission critical with it. I basically bought it because it is strange and I figured it’d make a funny basis for my Tandy sleeper.
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I hope both sides of your pillow are warm
@@junkhunk521 I hope you stub your pinky toes