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But Can it Run Linux - Erying i9-11900H pt. 2
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Some viewers had questions about the Erying i9-11900H Motherboard I covered in a recent video, so I jumped back in to test Cinebench R23 performance, see if it could run Linux, and how it would function as a homelab workstation. The results speak for themselves.
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1:18 Welcome Back
1:36 Memory Speed
3:36 CPU Cooling
5:06 Turbo/ Overclocking
8:28 Linux Support
9:26 Virtualization
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Do one more video on this, but do plex or emby or jellyfin, and let's see if that i9-11900H has any limits, and if so, what are they because I think I'm going to wait for the 12th or 13th generation.
I went ahead and got the same MB/CPU after watching your first video on this, and got it delivered yesterday.For some reason the BIOS splashscreen won't wake either of my monitors so I can't get into the BIOS -.- Or I get in, but can't see what the hell I'm doing XD So instead I went ahead and downloaded Intels tuning software and it keeps a sustained powerdraw of 89Watts, 1440 ST and 13600MT in R23 with no signs of "turbodrop". ST would propably be higher IF I could set XMP in BIOS, but this is still a serious bang for buck deal even at stock RAM speeds.
XTU 2 reports the CPU as non OC btw, so can't do any other tweaking than setting the sliders to unlimited inside the software.
Couple of things I noticed tho is that the RAM slots are fairly close to the CPU so I had to rotate my 240 AIO block 90 degrees because the tubes overhung the RAM slot in a way even low profile sticks won't fit, and I definitly need to get some fanhead splitters.I even tore apart an old laptop and reutilized the wifi card WITH the antenna, managed to get the whole Lenovo backplate with the internal antenna inside the cablemanagment cover, hidden WIFI DIY approved :'D Cheers!
Would you be tempted to test their i9 13900h version of the board?
It is on sale due to blackfriday
did you every get the hard drives to passthrough in proxmox or dose it still not work
I got mine in 2 days ago and I am beyond stoked, it also set my 32gb patriot kit to 3200mhz. Love this thing!!!!!
Which patriot kit exactly? Curious to see if it has JEDEC 3200.
@@OTechnology Patriot Signature Premium DDR4 32GB kit
if 2 m.2 occupy do SATA III still work ?
@@Roman9441 I honestly do not know, I have a 500gb nvme boot and 2tb nvme as storage. when I get home I will try and confirm.
@@jeffcrowe4899 Thank you
it can run erying
Thanks for following up your previous video and answering (amongst others) my virtualization question in this one. My Erying i7-11850H is in the mail already. I wish they had an official website. I look forward to your review of the new i7-12700 or i9-xxxxx when they come out soon!
As soon as you made your video, they increased the price to $320 on aliexpress.
Yeah I've just check it to and now the "i9" is 320$, the "i7" is 220$. Bummer.
You are not looking at the correct model: the "0000es 2.6G i9" is still at less than 200$
@@ccrisinel oh is it? That make sense though now I notice he test the ES cpu not the real i9.
Correct. 0000 ES i9 is $190. You can also snag the 0000 ES i7 (11800H) for $140. Still 8-Cores/16-Threads.
And to think that I was looking at these two weeks ago while hunting for cheap X79s, and decided to skip thinking they'd stay down like that.
You need to contact them about getting upgraded VRM heatsinks. The ones you have will get over 100C. They redesigned them and you can buy them for only the cost of shipping.
Awesome video as always :) The company who makes this also makes an improved vrm heatsink for it. Definitely check it out if you plan on keeping those vrms cooler.
I went ahead and ordered the 11800H ES version. At $155 shipped for 8c16t, same cache, and just a tad lower clock speed. It was an offer I could not refuse.
Yeah I did the same a few weeks ago and I'm actually using it. Seems the best choice for the cost compared to the i9.
Got the i7 11800h version for $140 shipped. Fingers crossed it will last more than a couple months... gonna pair it with a 5700 xt and see how it goes. Great video!
Yup same here. Excited. This gonna replace my old school TR. Big difference in power draw.
"will last more than a couple of months" 😂
And? Did it last?
@@hexidev yes. Still works fine !
@@CamronLocke great then I will get an pair of one of their 13th gen mobo :)
Talk about timing. I was literally sitting in front of the one I got in the mail yesterday trying to figure out the turbo unlock. Thank you
This thing sounds like a perfect setup to run my Minecraft/NAS server. That old 3770 I’m running is running pretty warm even with a decent cooler on it.
Awesome Videos. Your two vids about this made me go for the 11980HK ES version. Very excited.
Sorry to be a pain, but could you make an exact guide to what you did to get 3200mhz to work, alongside sleep mode working.
I want mine set exactly like yours 😂
sadly these were all sold out mere hours after your last video on this board lol
Check the links in the description. I've got a couple other sources linked, as well as some of the 11800H models, still available for ~$140.
I'm glad I bought one in December
John Clayton says:
"While I missed out on the board from the last video, my procrastination paid off and they released a board with the i5-12500H...Alder Lake, and Xe graphics with 2 codec engines will be a nice upgrade for my media server!"
@@thepezfeo Do you have a link?
@@ThePiprian Search for "ERYING motherboard" on Chinese sales sites.
it would be nice to have a "step by step" guide on overclocking the cpu and also to explain some of the entries of the bios.. so that we can all proceed to adjust our own overclock on those China boards...
hey Jeff, I have the same motherboard with the i9-11980hk. its fully unlocked and you can adjust everything with throttlestop and intel xtu. also all the options you can adjust with throttlestop and xtu you can set them in the bios
Thanks for taking another look at this setup and answering the communities questions!
While I missed out on the board from the last video, my procrastination paid off and they released a board with the i5-12500H...Alder Lake, and Xe graphics with 2 codec engines will be a nice upgrade for my media server!
Liar
@@trixniisama I saw the i5-12500H mobo listed recently, but they are probably already sold out. The wifi is integrated with antenna ports on the IO shield area instead of having the expansion slot that could be used for other purposes. That, concerns about the P + E core support for virtualization, and the drive for instant gratification convinced me to pull the trigger on an i7-11850H non-ES board. My TrueNAS Scale is about to get a serious and power-consumption friendly upgrade from my old i7-3770k.
Coincidentally mine arrived not 10 mins into your vid :P
What a cute little thing haha. I'm much more accustomed to HEDT platforms but this should be fun!
Oooooooooooh Thank you 😁, This video helped me lock my 11800h to 4.2ghz by raising the power limit to 75w like you did.
thanks for this vid! I just got this mobo/cpu combo a month ago and have been struggling to find time to test these things and learn. interesting about the virtualization problems...i wonder if there will eventually be a fix for that. on that note, were you able to find out any information on Erying as a company? I couldn't find anything when searching, thinking there may be updates out there that could solve issues
As I'm watching your video, I'm drinking Birra Morretti lager beer, with a Glen Moray single malt chaser. Interesting content as usual mate.
Just a small remark about the link to the i7 version in the description: the 6c/12t ES CPU linked are not related to the 11800H, as the 11800H is also an 8 core/16 thread CPU with a slightly lower boost clock than that 11900H. There was an 11800H based ES model as well, but it seems to be sold out like the 11900H models.
Also be interesting to see total power draw at the wall numbers
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Awesome thank you so much for the follow up, it answered some questions, though I must say mine came two days prior and having virtualization enabled left me in a boot loop the second it'd hand over to OS.
But further question, have you tried direct die cooling?
I just ordered the unlocked i7 version($163.25 shipped). I cant wait to play with something that can potentially oc.
Mayby it will replace my 3700x in my secondary pc.
Update. Got it. Works great. @stock with 3200mhz ram its roughly on par with my 3700x. but with some tweaking i was able to get it running 4.6ghz ghz all core (100mhz over the single core turbo boost). And now it’s considerably faster than my 3700x. And in some games like borderlands 2 it gives my 5800x3d a run for its money.
I might be missing a setting in the bios, but
Ive found that the cpu clocks are tdp limited.
Its similar to overclocking an amd gpu. Where you have to lower voltages to free up tdp headroom to increase frequency which really limits overclocking potential
I bought one last week and I should receive it at the end of the month. can't wait to try this thing.
Congrats on 300k!
They have 12th Gen ones up now. Non engineering sample full SKU apparently. Looks interesting.
Where at? I haven't seen them.
how much were they? Is it worth the difference?
Can you give the link bois?
Yes please a link
If they can knock out an ITX version....TAKE MY MONEY!!
seeing that motherboard combo I see a good value for reviving an old optiplex I have for a nice home theater center.
can you please answer the question about AMT? I see some setting for it in the bios, does it support AMT KVM for remote mgmt? I would love this for the homelab if it did.
I bought the 11800h ES variant of this board and was offered a "more powerful" BIOS from the seller. This more powerful BIOS has lightning bolts as it's background, rather than the standard blue and grey BIOS. I later tested PCI-e passthrough and was successfully able to pass through both the Intel IGPU for transcoding to a VM, as well as passing through a Radeon 6700xt to a windows VM as a virtualized gaming machine. Both worked flawlessly, but only when I made sure that Proxmox did NOT use the GPU on boot, and also disabled resizable BAR in the bios. I've not experimented further with this yet but it's not a totally lost cause!
Dude, I've fighting the world to make it work, I've tried aboslitely everything but in vain .... can you please give me those settings of yours so I can use them, I have the same board as yours and using the lighting bios. thanks a lot, I'm waiting for your answer.
It took me a while to find your blog, found the tutorial, I'll try to follow through :)
share a backup of you bios on the cloud?
I am currently running mint and its been stable as can be, not a single issue.
Still running 24/7 for a year and still not a single issue. Have gamed, 3d modeld, rendered, created music, tons of stuff. Best money I ever spent
I'm trying to bring down my power envelope across all my machines, one of these just running at stock sounds like a great idea.
Recently got mine, paired it with a RTX 3080 and 32 gb ddr4 RAM, however only got my RAM to 3100mhz, not a big deal for me anyways. Really stoked about this motherboard, works great and paired with the RTX 3080 it is really smooth in games
Does CPU get bottlenecked with RTX 3080? I'm a 3D artist, heavily use Unreal Engine and Blender, will this CPU set fit me?
@@liweilin6649 I would not say the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU, depends on the task, however. This CPU performs about the same, if not better, than a i9 9900k, one of the best desktop CPUs when the RTX 3080 came out. For me it has been great!
sure someone has probably already pointed it out, but you can turn on CC subtitles to auto translate to english in the settings tab now.
@craft computing Can you recommend a gpu to match this motherboard: cost efficiency vs cpu throttle limitations?
Just ordered one to act as my high clock and per-core performance server in my homelab. Managed to grab the ES model for about $160 after tax (got very lucky with coupons)! I'd love to see a 1 or 2u build with this maybe using a dynatron AIO server CPU cooler?
I wonder what's the idle power consumption (from the wall)?
What's the power draw at the wall for this board on idle and under load?
You forgot to talk about QuickSync. There is a full G12 Intel GPU on this with good support in Linux. I am planning to use mine as a transcoding machine.
Do you think it could be good for passthrough?
This part with Intel Deep link on ARC could be a good cheap video editing workstation.
You should see if you can get ahold of one of the Moore Threads GPU's (either the MTT S3000 server GPU with 32GB of VRAM or the MTT S80 consumer GPU with 16GB of VRAM) the latter featured in the new Linus Tech Tips video. I think you could probably figure out how to squeeze more performance out of that Chinese GPU than they could, and it is kinda right up your alley.
OMG someone else still uses AS5. I like the ways it cures, it means its permanently cured, and any overclock you put on is likely to get better temps over time, not worse like most TIM
Dude, the spinning fan on the cooler, makes it look like smoke is coming from the CPU. I'm here thinking: why is that guy not smelling/seeing the smoke?!
Edit: cool video, though.👍
For PCIe passthrough, could it be a IOMMU group issue? May need to set kernel option pcie_acs_override as mentioned on Proxmox wiki.
I have problems enabling hyper v, virtualization is enabled in bios but when i try to enable hyper v on restart windows restart indefinitely.
I don't know what to do, help me please!
please note that on store page they warn that VT-x feature on ES combos is not guaranteed to work and some users report it is not working so it's a lottery if you're planning to use it as a VM host
Is there any option for bifurcation of the x16 PCIe slot? 8x4x4 would make for some interesting options
As far as I could tell going through all the weird PCIe submenus I saw nothing about bifurcation sadly. I am sure the bios configures this somehow but without the expertise to really pick apart the bios and make a custom bios your not going to simply do so sadly.
Would this be suitable for running Unraid? If possible, with 9201-16I HBA in IT Mode. Any help would be appreciated.
Nice video! Also about PCIe, can you check if it has PCIe splitting? Another thing, have you ever experimented with using a m.2 PCIe splitting card with some of those m.2 to SAS adapters, for an expandable "native HBA"?
Am on the edge to get one of those, but the seller is clueless about PCIe bifurcation.
Try asking on the subreddit: "/r/eryingmotherboard"
Hi Jeff, I had bought this motherboard after watching your review... but I did not trust the stock UEFI it shipped with.
Not sure if you've ever heard of coreboot (opensource firmware), but I had decided to port it to this motherboard.
I'm certain that it will fix VT-d issues you've had, so I thought you'd might be interested to have a look once I finish it :)
were you able to get vt-d working?
@@lukequinn2639 Actually yes, despite bugs I still haven't fixed, IOMMU/VT-d is working. I successfully passed trough an RX6600XT to Windows 10 VM running in KVM :)
@@elly3713 Great job! Can I find your work somewhere? Thanks
Great video, as always!
I have seen that Erying is also selling now a i7-12700H with 14 Cores 20 threads - this could also be a very interesting solution.
Anyway, thanks for the in depth analysis of this board. Nice videos
Liar
@@trixniisama There are listings for both the 12700H and 12500H on AliExpress, pretty easy to look it up
@@eribetra So easy that they are impossible to find. Just typing 11800h is enough to get those motherboards in the first results.
@@trixniisama You can find them pretty easily at the ERYING official store, the i7 version is their 2nd listed item in their landing page.
@@eribetra We clearly do not see the same thing then. There are no 12th gen parts available anywhere in Erying's store.
Hi,
Do you have a link to the CPU Heatsink & Fan you mention please?
Tried google'n but for the life of me I could'nt find it.
Thanks.
What was the cooler you used? I couldn't catch exactly what you said. Thanks again for the awesome information!
Could you please post your ACPI and RC ACPI settings? I can not get this system to sleep correctly on Pop OS or any other Linux OS. Thanks!
I have a laptop with an 11800H in it but only a 65W RTX 3060. Debating between grabbing one of these boards and building a system or just grabbing an eGPU enclosure. Any thoughts?
The listings for the boards with the engineering samples has a disclaimer that there are varying problems with virtualization. I am looking at the i7-11850H non-ES for that reason. It looks to be not that much slower than the i9 for almost $100 less for the i9- non-ES board. I don't want to risk virtualization issues. Does anyone have recommendations for an 8 port sata PCIe x1 card? I have been looking at an 8 port NAS case for over a year now that will support mATX.
You mentioned that HBA would be a no-go. Do you think something like a Dell PERC flashed with IT mode would work?
I’m just thinking abound for everyone but is PCIe bifurcation supported on these boards? That would really lighten some of its limitations seeing as it is PCIe 4.0 x16 why can’t I have a network card and hba on that one slot?
Got one after your first vid, and with a bit of tweaking on power liits, 2x16GB 32000 kit and i niw have a very nice speedy game server which our Minecraft Vault Hunters and SAtisfactory server absolutley LOVE.
@CraftComputing Do either or both of the NVMe slots support Optane?
Want more videos on this mobo. The manufacturer announced they are coming out with intel 12th gen in spring.
Btw vincent the other guy that has videos on this board is portuguese not spanish 🤣
I don't speak that either...
idle power draw? pretty please with cherry on top. Good work Jeff.
Do you know if the built-in network card can be passed through, via VT-D/IOMMU, in e.g. Qubes OS? GPUs are usually hard to pass-through, especially NVidia ones, maybe an AMD GPU might work? Qubes OS doesn't really support GPU pass-through, though, but being able to use the network card in a VM would make using Qubes OS possible.
Running a low power server on one of the 11400h boards at $140 would have been awesome. Too bad they are over $200 now. ☹ these things are pretty darn cool though.
thats pretty nice. ties with my 6800hs while sipping a little more power. may consider for my sff desktop
You did mention adding it to the rack.... does that mean you are going for a custom 6U with two boards side by side due to the heatsinks? That would be interesting as they do seem like they could be side by side, unfortunately in a tall configuration.
I plan on doing a pair of 2U chassis.
can someone tell me what cooler mounting hardware i need, im about to buy the one with the 11700H
I would love to pick one of these up to build a new homelab with! My i7-3770s is really starting to get old and more cores for more VM's would be very handy
I am in the same boat. I have my old i7-3770k running TrueNAS Scale right now, and this much more performance with a lot less power draw is interesting.
I've got a i7-3770 too. Really difficult to justify upgrading as much as I've been itching to, was watching yt vids comparing game performance between generations and there really isn't much in it between 3rd gen and current. Much bigger gap in non gaming performance, but think that's mostly down to the thread count. Think I'm going to wait for the faster next gen NVMEs to come out and the price of 4tb drives to fall a bit and then do a build with a 24t cpu.
The 12700h version 14 core 20 thread will be great for a vm server, with 64gb ram
have a link for that cooler?
I hope erling keeps the Frankenstein boards coming for years to come. No reason to throw good ES cpus out for no reason when they are perfectly good for many people out there.
I kinda want to buy one just to try to direct die cool it with an aio and see how far i can push the clocks.
How much ram can the board support? I'm thinking of using one as an ESXi 8.0 server...
apologies just read 128gb! cracking :)
Keep the Linux content coming!
i got direct die cooling going with a 240mm rad on the 11980hk and i hit 5ghz all core with good temps
it also says it supports ecc cuz its the same chip as the W-11955m
Have you, or anyone else tried using this in combination with a P4 using vGPU as mentioned as a workaround for the lack of pass-through support? I did not have any luck despite the fact that everything looked as if it was going to work fine, drivers would not install because they could not see the card in Windows. Anyone have any success/suggestions?
How many Watts can be lowered knowing that the default is 45w, it is interesting for a NAS but will it be possible to lower it to 15w?
what about virtualization on non ES versions of the board?
Can you test it with a highend gpu for 4k gaming?
how is the vrm temp?
I ordered the i7-11800 and recieved it and that is all the good news I have. Unit powers up when AC cord is connected, all fans speed up for 10 sec then speed down, then up again, also no video out. Started trounbleshooting and found if the 8 pin CPU is NOT connected the fans stay on and but still no video out from all ports. Going to try a graphic card tonight and see what happens.
How does the intel compare to the Minisforum AMD 8 core box?? Or Beelink SER7?
Timestamps are not in sync? Great video!
Aliexpress now has some of these sellers making notes in their sales ads about this motherboard combo that they do not support virtualization.
Maybe a video with one of these using Proxmox and passing through/sharing the Intel UHD to Plex in an LXC container....
there are actually variants of this mobo with 11600h, 11800h, 11890hs, 11900h, 11950h, some of which are supposedly (at least, are marketed as) non-engineering samples
You convinced me to get this board. Which m.2 slot is PCIe 4?
For cooling, try use a Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut 32x32mm, place it instead of thermal paste between crystal and cooper. It is a thermal pad, reusable, and dont degrade over time. 14$ costs.
Just as an FYI: I accidentally ordered from a duplicate listing not from the company bc of how awful the search function is so it's not going to surprise me if I get a box of rocks instead of a motherboard and have to dispute the order. Be careful with making sure you use the listing he linked.
Honestly i would not dispute it until it arrives. I had really ZERO trouble ordering from China, but i never ordered obvious scams. Just a different seller, probably absolutely the same unit if it arrives as it should.
Yeah some sellers like to change their accounts every few weeks.
Take a video as you unbox the package. Aliexpress does not release your payment to the merchant until you confirm you received it (or some time delay - I think it's like 90 days if you dont confirm then they just get the money).
Update: I got mine in and it all seems to be in the correct shape. Boots up and handles a stress test fine.
@@FastDeathbycat Good to hear. Enjoy your efficient gaming CPU/mobo combo and good luck with the bios settings
I got question if 2 m.2 occupy do SATA III still work ?
Haha one thing i like about heat spreader is it protect the real CPU nothing to worry about bent the pin or socket lolz but I know this CPU is solder but i feel it safe compare to LGA 1700 / AM4 / AM5
Well AM4 give me stuck sometime even i'm careful XD
did you try Plex or Jellyfin with iGPU transcoding on this mobo?
thats is to show how probly the laptop division on amd and intel are just the true monsters in the room
This is very interesting but I have to compare it to say a Ryzen 5500 and motherboard available in the states for ~$190. Obviously this doesn't have the same memory limitations. Does anyone else have thoughts on this?
Just had one of these delivered today! unfortunately I dont have any ddr4 around to put in it yet..
I was going to buy this but I had to replace my monitor instead. Hope they get restocked later on.
why didnt you try to "delid" the processor? I'm sure without the copper shim the temps will be a lot better
The cpu performs very well, runs extremely good with rx 5700xt with rebar on, just so awesome.
Here's an update: I've been playing with mine for a while now, its rock solid, not had any USB issues but I have disabled a few things in the BIOS that I wont use, like the serial port, IGPU, and anything else that I dont need, am using 32GB of kingston fury beasts, it runs rock solid and without crashing @ XMP1 (3200) using gear1 plus a bit of a bump to Bclk of 102.46 cpu is running stable no crashes when pushing so i know I havent got near its limit it plays Star Citizen effortlessly @1080 and it leaves the 8750h in my laptop in the dust! there is one small downside thats the temp the VRM runs at, some knowledgeable people say its fine but I'd rather not take a chance so printed a fan duct to keep them cool and the jobs a goodun! cinebench r23 cpu temp maxes out @ 61c with the 'cpu slug' in place using an old phobya uc-1 waterblock, d5 pump and a giant nova extreme 1080 external radiator thatI managed to shoe horn into my old core X9 case several years ago .. the psu I'm using in a Corsair RM850 which the fan doesnt come on as there isnt enough load from this system.
Sadly with all the coverage, the board / CPU combo prices have spiked. US$330 to get one here to New Zealand from aliexpress.
You are looking at genuine i9s. You need to look at the Engineering sample boards which are still cheap.
@@staples4335 I had to search - the links above don't work for me. Care to post a link?
@@Rod_Knee I posted you a link already. Seems the replies on here are playing up. Not all are showing up.
@@staples4335 Ah, yes I've noticed that sort of thing happening. YT playing silly games. Thanks regardless, and have a good one.
Could someone confirm that the x16 slot actually supports 16 lanes? The Erying 12700H info sheet on AE (if you can trust it) says only 8 lanes are supported.
12th gen splits up pcie lanes differently. While 11th gen laptops get 16x pcie 4.0 to their GPUs, 12th gen only gets 8x 4.0 lanes to their GPU. If I’m not mistaken the trade off is 12th gen gets 2 full 4x 4.0 NVME slots and like 12 extra lanes of 3.0.
So in short it’s an intel thing, not erying.
@@Warren_Elrod thank you!