Honestly, one of the best (if not the best) tacoma content pages on the internet. Very relatable and realistic content for the average owner than can't/won't dump 20k-50k into making a truck into a baja racer or overlander.
I put the OT Tune on my 21 TRD OR. I couldn't be happier. My truck is still mostly stock and I have seen a small improvement to fuel economy. But the improved driveability is worth it alone.
Once tuned up, what kind of gas grade do u put in it? Still regular unleaded or premium grade? And do u have to update the Tune software regularly / once in a while, or once it is tuned, it stays like that for good? Tks. Coz im about to get mine done.
@@skippyscage Yes, the tune is an update to the software and remains until it is changed on purpose, the computer is re-flashed to factory settings or is somehow corrupted.
I waited a year to get my 22 OR AC tuned, my truck is stock. The tune was amazing in throttle response and it sure really improved the gear hunting. 1 week after the tune my truck went I to the dealership for the factory oil change, etc and they never mentioned anything about it. I absolutely recommend if your thinking about the tune, don't hesitate
Got my truck tuned by Paul at the PNW expo in Redmond OR yesterday did 360 miles back home and dang what a difference, kept it in drive the whole time no need for s, back home on i5 almost 21.5 mpg on the flats. Very impressed wish I would of done it earlier.
I love my OTT upgrade. 4 months now, and still loving it. Got the middle lower power programming setting/option, which makes the truck feel like it should have direct from Toyota. The transmission shifting is WAY better. The only super minor dislike is the jumpiness in parking lots and slow driving - the petal is much more sensitive and more difficult to not look like a jerk pumping the petal to get attention. :)
I feel such honesty here. No fu*kery! You're here sharing your experience with your decisions and it makes so much easier for me and others to make our decisions. Thank you, great videos!
I got the KDmax tune. The throttle response was aggressive but I tried to get used to it. After 7 months, I started to hate it. I reached out to my tuner guy again. He turned down the throttle response and also installed the latest version of the tune. Now I love it!
@@joshgentry1494 I can’t say I’ve tested that exact scenario but I would say No. It’s damn near perfect now. I’m on the Lite Tip-in and KDmax Pro version 10 tune.
Run a tank of premium & see what it does for you. I definitely see a difference from regular to premium. If you run 285 (33s) & up you definitely need to regear. Even a tune will not compensate needing gears. The setup your running is pretty spot on for a everyday driver thats not going to do hard offroading, best all round setup.
21 SR, 89 octane only, OTT Medium/Spicy, AWE true dual exhaust, S&B CIA, Eibach Pro-truck stage 2R, Wildpeak AT3 275, u-bolt flip, Wheelers bumpstops, diff drop, cab mount chop, aluminum skids. ECT + S2/3 makes it feel like a stadium truck, even on the stock gears. RPMs are lower than what I would prefer during normal driving, and I'd rather not have to constantly paddle up or down to solve the RPM/speed equation, so I'm planning to regear some time next year, probably to 4:88. I love the fact that re-tunes are free and we can tinker with our gears/fuel/tune to get the most out of our trucks- whether you're interested in Smiles Per Gallon or Miles Per Gallon, get the most out of your truck with the OTT tune.
Just got this done at Westcott Design here in Phoenix AZ. I want to punch myself for not doing it earlier. I should have had it done when I put the 5.29 gears in, but the other shop I went to didn't suggest it. The gear change caused the transmission to not shift in time before the fuel cut off happened. This tune fixed this. Cannot tell you how awesome this is. Also, it's like I have a completely different truck. It has great low-end torque now. I have to get used to it, keep spinning my tires. I can totally light them up now, even with larger tires. Ive noticed much better gas mileage too. I have a 3 inch lift with 33's, but not much more. Just some steps, light bars and ditch lights. But I'm getting easy 20 mpgs all around, both highway and city. Simply the best $450 I've ever spent. If you're in Phoenix, go to Westcott. Fantastic experience with those guys. They also fab many items that, to be honest, is going to get me in trouble with my wife 😮😂. My new candy store
I have the KD Maxx tune on my truck and put 8,000 miles on it since getting tuned in November. I was going to trade in my truck before the tune because the driving experience was frustrating on 285s. After the tune the driving experience is much better and now I’m averaging 15-16mpg combined as opposed to 11-12mpg. I had a great experience with the tune.
@@MariaMaria-by6ff I did not get it tuned. Not sure if im used to it or im just easy on the pedal, but for me it pulls fine. If i need to get up n go on the interstate it’s still got enough power. I bought a truck not a sports car.
I love my OTT tune as well. Ive had it for about 4 months now. I recently had my truck supercharged and will be getting the OTT tune for that next week
I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE TUNE YET: (2018 Tacoma 4x4 Off-road) I am/was one of those people. Huge skeptic! I was afraid of my warranty being voided. I was also paranoid of the dealership updating my factory tune when taking it in for service and “undoing” what I paid to have done. I recently hit 50k, took it in for its 50k service…the trucks shifting & response is more horrible than ever. I drive it with the ECT activated all the time which I don’t feel like I should have to do. When trying to accelerate I feel like I’m always having to dog my truck out to get it to go! I’m over it….I WILL be getting the OTT soon. I’ve been following this topic for quite some time. Thank you for making this vid, just solidifies my decision to get it done.
When you get your truck tuned with OTT they will update first to the latest Toyota software. This prevents the Dealership from overwriting the tune by accident. In regards to warranty: the ECU will still report as stock when the Dealership connects their computers.
I’ve tried multiple tunes (manual transmission) and ultimately decided I prefer stock. I do firmly believe a regear is a great choice even on stock tires. I would personally like to see this channel regear to 5.29s and share the results. It would drive great on 265/70R17s with the auto. I did 5.29s on the manual with both stock size and 255/75R17s and it’s been great. Revs high, performs well.
I used to be an engine calibrator for an OEM manufacturer. The OEM vs Tuned calibration file might look similar in name (via PN)…but if a dealer really wanted to dig, they would just do a cal compare to the L&G released software for your model year and what’s on your vehicle. If they see variable differences they might ask questions…I’ve never experienced this myself but I’m assuming this would be the process.
only reason for them to look into it would be if something failed, in which case I would reflash to stock. could probably see the flash in the computer history but I doubt they’d check software if the truck doesn’t look too modified. Now if you blow up a second engine/trans they’re definitely going to look into that lol but these engines are extremely well built. It would take a God awful tune and a moron driver to blow up a tacoma powertrain
Chloe, thanks for the videos. You gave me confidence to get the OTT. It is simply a GAMECHANGER! Love it! Best $$$ I've ever spent! Paul from PNW Tuning is a rockstar...great guy!!!
Just had mine tuned by OTT / Noah in Wisconsin. Couldn’t be happier as it does exactly what was promised. Can’t wait to tow my Intech Sol Horizon in a couple of weeks.
While I can't speak for crawl control (I honestly just don't use it when I'm off-roading), but with this tune specifically, the ECT button actually increases the throttle response even more! So you kind of get an additional setting. I haven't played around with it too much though, so I'd reach out to your local tuner for more specific information, hope this helps!
Hi Chloe! Thank you for this Video. I had my truck tuned a week ago by Q and wow what a huge difference!! I love driving my truck! Thank you for the video of you getting your tune from Q, it really help me finally do the best thing I’ve done to my truck!
Thanks chloe for your time and your down to earth authentic experience , your video and others i found sold me on it so i Just got my 23 tacoma trd 7 k miles done today with OTT hear in alabama . Everything you mention is exactly what my results where withcthe medium spicy with spicy being ECT engaged . I feel ya on the being a little paranoid about costly changes to our gems but thats life for ya , i cant trust my toyota dealer service since i know they lied to me the other day to get my 10k service done at 7k while i had rear axle recall looked at and adking to look into whinning sound coming from possibly rear or trans when letting off acceleration at road speeds . And general driving . After 2 days i eas told its aggressive tires and normal sounds when i know the difference and its obvious its not the tires , so i consider that being bummed off push me out the door , since they rold me that today before went to get tune if i cant trust that response i checked my oil dip stick and my heart sank when i seen easy visually sized metal shavings on the stick from tip to oil level , wiped on paper towel and put back in pull out and even more . I dipped it in on a cold engine atleastc10 times and everytime had shavings of different sizes . I was so over whelmed i started to shed a tear . I checked oil before dropped it off it was just oil now they change it and im getting this on my stick makes me have to believe it was done on purpose , how else can it happen no acceptable excuse . Not sure how to approach but wish me luck i ts destroying my engine everytime i crank i know that much so a 48k financed with service techs lying and putting metal in my engine hear we go , its like a twilight zone of a black hole i just feel threw its so unbelievable but true . Im gonna watch more your videis just to cheer me up czuse thats what its doing for me atm . . Peace and taco love .
Great video. I did this but a bit differently and it DID cost more. I purchased the software and the little orange OBD box so I could program it myself. OrangeVirus Tuning is what I purchased. Now I can program it for the tire size change, for premium fuel, and if I change my gears, I have a tune for that from OrangeVirus and can do it myself. And yes, I agree with all of Chloe's results, and the biggest improvement (for me) was the gear hunting. I LOVE it.
I had Paul install the mild medium OTT tune on my 21 TRD OR a few months ago after driving it stock for the first 30k miles. This is hands down the best $500 I have spent on this truck. Its so much more fun to drive. The off the line throttle response, passing capability and hill climbing power are all seriously improved.
@Dustin421 I don't notice a difference in town driving pretty heavy footed. It seems like I got a little better hwy milage but didn't document it. It is so much more fun that I haven't cared about mpgs yet. Sry.
Hi, Chloe! I love the honesty and professionalism you always show in your videos. I have to say that this one was very helpful to me and came in the right time. I've been doing the research to qet the best tune for my 2022 TRD Sport and last night I was chating with the local OTT tuner. I was 90% convinced after that, but saw your video early this morning and now I'm 100% sure that OTT is the way to go. Thanks a lot and keep that good work. God bless you always.
Great video Chloe on the OTT. You gave an unbiased opinion based on the results of the tune for your truck. I just purchased a 2023 TRD Sport last week and will be getting my trucked tuned in the near future.
I did a YotaWerx tune when my '23 had about 500 miles on it. Today, 10K miles later, no regrets. While it did not solve all the gen3 issues, it definitely improved throttle response and reduced but did not eliminate the dreaded gear hunting. MPG did not change, still poor.
I'm glad you did this Chloe. Your video on using additives was a bit underwhelming... as additives don't really do anything other than maybe help keep the engine clean, maybe help with knocking on older engines, and any performance is extremely negligible, and should be seen right away, not after several tanks. Quoc Pham is a good guy, have chatted with him a couple of times, looking forward to working with him when I get my 4th gen.
Nice review. I'd be more curious about the more long term effects of any tune. Of course, not enough time has passed for anyone to report. But I will say, when weighing the more likelihood of issues impacting the reliability of a vehicle, electronic alterations I'd suspect more over mechanical alterations, tune versus re gearing. There are historical results searchable with Jeeps and negative long term results. Then again, we're talking Toyota here. Overall, the answers I'm hearing are the same: Does it accelerate better? A: Yes. Does it tow better? A: Yes. Does it still gear hunt? A: YES. And being a 5.29 re gearee, I can confirm these answers.
I wish I new about this before purchasing the pedal commander, the commander does what it suppose to do and really happy with it, but it doesn't solve the issue of shifting.
I have a video coming out about this soon. But initial impressions of the Pedal Commander-- I like how while even though the odd stock shifting patterns don't change like they do when you get a tune, the increase in throttle response makes it easier to control because the pedal is more predictable
Got a modified version of the Orange Virus 1.5 93 octane tune w a 3.5” hps cold air intake, 76mm tundra throttle body, and a plenum spacer. Neck and neck w my buddies bolt on Ram 5.7. Took it to the track ran mid 14s w it. Considering precat deletes and e85 next to try and get closer to 13s. still on stock gears. tune is night and day on these trucks. had my truck tuned for almost 100k now NO ISSUES! And i get 21-22mpg average when babying it
Thank you for your video. I was totally stressed about getting this done today. Your input and details gave me the confidence to get it done and it is a big difference with the overall performance. Shifting was my main complaint but the power is great 👍 🙏
As awesome as you are with all of this, i think its safe to say, You have one of the greatest and most caring sets of parents anyone could ask for, Cherish it. Please. For the ones that don't. You grew up with INSANE skills.
Good info & thanks for the 📽️ I'ma get the OTT soon on my '22 TRD off-road 6-speed manual. The truck needs to be tuned to help drive better imo, i can't wait!
Re: Warranty, as far as I understand automotive warranties don't work like other warranties. For most consumer products they can void the warranty if they see you've modified the product, however for an automotive warranty the onus is on the manufacturer to prove that your modification caused the defect.
Remember the warranty only covers defects. If there are any signs that the engine was pushed beyond normal use or any evidence that the ECM was tampered with they are not under any legal obligation to do warranty work. It would be on the vehicle owner to prove otherwise in a breach of warranty lawsuit.
Hi Chloe, I'm the daughter of a mechanic. I share your love of Toyota trucks and off-road vehicles? I love women showing their love for fixing things. Just curious, are you a self taught mechanic? I really believe in supporting each other in being courageous in learning new skills. Thank you! Trish
Thanks Trish 😄 I wouldn’t go so far to say I’m anywhere close to being a mechanic haha, but I’ve learned a lot from DIY and spending a lot of time watching/“helping” other people with their own builds. It’s a fun hobby that has a steep learning curve but is very rewarding!
Good follow up video. My dealership did reccomend the OTT and had business cards on the counter. Have it about 2 months and like it....throttle is touchy and takes getting used too. On cruise control with the radar it searches for gears too much so Brian my OTT guy said use the cruise w/o the radar. Pedal Commander was a no no according to the dealer.
Can you elaborate on why the dealer discouraged a Pedal Commander? It seems far less intrusive than a tune. I've had a Pedal Commander for about a year. It completely changed throttle response (in a very positive way) for my 2021 Off-Road. I love it for both short and long trips.
@@gpclark007 the dealer stated with the PC they had numerous customers coming in with engine codes. I didn't ask what the codes were but other U Tube channel viewers were saying the same thing they were experiencing. If you have the tune and then don't like it you can have the truck recalibrate to stock.
@@scottgorman7166 I see. I've not had any engine code conditions. I would think removing the PC would be easier (anyone can install/de-install one) since it's just sitting between your foot throttle and the original cable. Isn't it just mimicking what your foot COULD do? It's not changing anything on your vehicle. Hey, thanks for the feedback though ... good to know/watch out for.
@gpclark007 when I purchased my tacoma the toyota salesman was the one that introduced me to the pedal commander. As my paperwork was being processed he was showing me online where to purchase the pc.
I always enjoy your videos…great infos…Aloha from Hawaii.. Where we travel on lava roads to get to our fishing spots…where a lift is needed and strong sidewalls…and the fishing is awesome!
You make great vids Chloe. Just a word of advice, I don't think you should use the pedal Commander, I've heard from a few friends that it will give you a check engine light. I've been using Sprint booster for quite some time, no problems with it. Just my 2¢. Good luck trying young lady!
Is CARB-compliance any concern? I don't live in CA, nor do I have a Tacoma. It seems *everything* is "taboo" in CA. I am just a curious resident of another state.
Another awesome video!! Thanks I drive with my Tacoma transmission in S and shift when I need.. maybe its not good for it but so far so good.. Health and Happiness to you.
I’ve almost thought about doing that because the lag in power is horrible. I drive mine with the ECT on all the time and feel like I really have to dog the motor out to get any kind of performance
I have a 6inch lift on my 3rd gen, also have 20’s wrapped around in 35’s Toyo’s at, have a trip to Colorado to visit family, and then to Texas. Don’t care about mpg, but will probably get one done to see if it’ll help with mpg for the travel, but also with the mountains.
Driving an older Toyota Pickup with a mechanical throttle with a manual transmission daily, you really notice the lag in the throttle response in the Tacoma.
In terms of gear ratios one possible reason to want to change is not just the sort of performance that a tune would help with but also to lower them for more control off road. The Tacoma comes with fairly high gears from the factory and this makes it nice for the road but off road lower gears might help. All the usual caveats about your specific situation still apply.
I think Toyota needs to find out what the tune sweet spot is and do this at the factory. Although I'd hate to see these tuners go out of business, it's really not fair to the customer that Toyota has been getting these complaints for so long all while doing nothing to correct it, all while there's a clear solution out there.
I get it’s suppose to come with better tuning from factory, but if you’re not going for a power increase there’s nothing stoping you for using the manual shift in these trucks.
Overall I like you're videos. On this one, I really wished that you had documented the fuel MPG better before and after the tune - that would have been useful.
Chloe, Im seriously thinking about doing this tune also, so thanks for your time making this video. Do you have a list of what settings you ended up using?
Funny, I don't have the tune yet but I get 18 to 19 MPG in the city but a solid 13.5 MPG on the highway. I actually avoid the highway and take back roads to keep my MPG up. I'll be interested to see if the tune fixes my highway MPG.
Same, but I wouldn't mind more low-end torque especially in first and second gear. I am however very nervous about this tune affecting longevity. I want 500k miles and 30+ years over better acceleration. With the stick, it is easy to rev it up a bit more and downshift when you need it. Glad to see another MT in here - they are so much more fun to drive everyday!!
Which level of spicy did you go with? Love my OTT, i'm in the 3rd tank of gas and absolutely love it. I've ran 91 with stock tires just to see how it runs. Id say the mpg is much better since the rpms are more stable, but not by much. The ECT is like 2 tunes in one at the push of a button... Q is the man! Great review CK!
Nice video. If this had existed two years ago, I wouldn't have wasted two years trying to decide if I wanted the tune or not. My tuner is qualified to do Orange virus, kdmax, and ott. I went with ott because when we discussed it, he really wasn't interested in doing any but ott calling it the newest technology. I have a 2018 TRD OR 3.5 liter 4x4 and after owning 6 Toyota trucks and 4 bys previously I was literally hating my 3rd gen. After the tune I'm thrilled! I also agree with pretty much everything you said though my gas mileage went up just over 20% from 14 to 18 if not too much stop and go traffic. Freeway about the same. I think the difference in my case is due to vehicle weight - skids, sliders, winch and bumper, recovery gear, etc. I also have a 2500 plus or minus travel trailer. I did not notice any change in gas mileage when towing, flat or mountainous. Taco mileage just sucks when towing! However the gear hunting is completely gone without the trailer and minimal with it going uphill. So just adding my experience. I also love watching you mechanicing! Now, go hit some trails!
I have offered KDmax and OTT in the past. If you want to have a safe, reliable and proper verified tune on your truck then there is no better option than OTT. Some tune developers don’t even test a tune on the vehicle it is offered for. Thats a big no go for me. With OTT you can rest assured that the people behind it have a deep knowledge about the trucks engine and transmission. They invest in data loggers and analyzing software in order to verify key parameters for a reliable function. Then they take the vehicle onto the dyno for further fine tuning. No short cuts taken.
Personally I would be really worried about tuning my particular truck 2018 TRD off-road 6-ft bed. The reason I would be worried is I get excellent fuel of economy and my transmission does not hunt for gears. I may have an exceptional Tacoma from the factory so I don't want to fool with it. A bad tank of fuel for me is 23 and I often get up to 26 and that's not on the dashboard that's actual miles and gallons calculated. I very typically get 425 to 450 miles on a tank. So I will leave mine alone. Thank you that was interesting to watch 👍
I have a stock 2023 Tacoma and I noticed it did not want to use 6th gear at consistent highway speeds. I live in Canada so at 120km/hr it likes to stay at 5th gear which keeps the rpm to 2k and up on a flat saskachewan road.
Loved the videos about the OTT tune I’m getting a tune today and I’m mainly doing the tune because I got bigger wheels and tires and also for towing my show car. I didn’t see you mention anything about towing do you know if there is any improvements in that aspect?
oh man, when you mentioned your truck is gear hunting in cruise control, that hit a nerve because I have a Tundra and it does the same thing and that kills my gas millage hard. I would love to see if your guy has a tune for the Tundra's, I would be very interested in it for my truck.
When tuners start operating out of brick and mortar shops, then I'll probably give it a shot. What recourse does the customer have should the tune somehow screw up their truck, and the tuner is hundreds of miles away? The claim is that there is no record of this happening, but that doesn't mean it hasn't. If it DOES happen, what then? The idea of tuning sounds great, so why aren't any brick and mortar shops doing it? I'm not trying to be negative, but I'm just posing concerns everyone seems to have. While it looks very tempting I'm still reluctant to fiddle around with my 40K truck.
I’m curious how this tune effects the life of the engine and transmission I want it so bad cuz the shifting is really bugging me but I bought it brand new and I want as many miles out of it as possibl
Honestly, one of the best (if not the best) tacoma content pages on the internet. Very relatable and realistic content for the average owner than can't/won't dump 20k-50k into making a truck into a baja racer or overlander.
I put the OT Tune on my 21 TRD OR. I couldn't be happier. My truck is still mostly stock and I have seen a small improvement to fuel economy. But the improved driveability is worth it alone.
exactly - it's the best upgrade I've done - feels like a different truck altogether
Once tuned up, what kind of gas grade do u put in it? Still regular unleaded or premium grade? And do u have to update the Tune software regularly / once in a while, or once it is tuned, it stays like that for good? Tks. Coz im about to get mine done.
@@peterphucphan6042 I am using 87 Octane E-0 fuel. But was using that before the tune.
@@peterphucphan6042 same grade as you used before the tune - tune sticks for good, unless you get it wiped out on purpose
@@skippyscage Yes, the tune is an update to the software and remains until it is changed on purpose, the computer is re-flashed to factory settings or is somehow corrupted.
I waited a year to get my 22 OR AC tuned, my truck is stock. The tune was amazing in throttle response and it sure really improved the gear hunting. 1 week after the tune my truck went I to the dealership for the factory oil change, etc and they never mentioned anything about it. I absolutely recommend if your thinking about the tune, don't hesitate
Got my truck tuned by Paul at the PNW expo in Redmond OR yesterday did 360 miles back home and dang what a difference, kept it in drive the whole time no need for s, back home on i5 almost 21.5 mpg on the flats. Very impressed wish I would of done it earlier.
I love my OTT upgrade. 4 months now, and still loving it. Got the middle lower power programming setting/option, which makes the truck feel like it should have direct from Toyota. The transmission shifting is WAY better. The only super minor dislike is the jumpiness in parking lots and slow driving - the petal is much more sensitive and more difficult to not look like a jerk pumping the petal to get attention. :)
With OTT changes to the throttle response are free of charge. Get in touch with your tuner and they can lower down the response a bit.
I feel such honesty here. No fu*kery! You're here sharing your experience with your decisions and it makes so much easier for me and others to make our decisions. Thank you, great videos!
Great info on the OTT. The OTT community is great and the tuners are really great people
I got the KDmax tune. The throttle response was aggressive but I tried to get used to it. After 7 months, I started to hate it. I reached out to my tuner guy again. He turned down the throttle response and also installed the latest version of the tune. Now I love it!
Give the OTT tune a try. Compared to KDMAX it has more torque, smoother throttle and better shift points.
The current release is actually better, these tunes are going to be competitive and stair step each other release after release.
Is it still jerky when you turn sharp on another road with a decline hill and ease back on the gas?
@@joshgentry1494 I can’t say I’ve tested that exact scenario but I would say No. It’s damn near perfect now. I’m on the Lite Tip-in and KDmax Pro version 10 tune.
That's what I'm on I didn't notice it untill after 2000 miles
Run a tank of premium & see what it does for you. I definitely see a difference from regular to premium.
If you run 285 (33s) & up you definitely need to regear. Even a tune will not compensate needing gears.
The setup your running is pretty spot on for a everyday driver thats not going to do hard offroading, best all round setup.
21 SR, 89 octane only, OTT Medium/Spicy, AWE true dual exhaust, S&B CIA, Eibach Pro-truck stage 2R, Wildpeak AT3 275, u-bolt flip, Wheelers bumpstops, diff drop, cab mount chop, aluminum skids.
ECT + S2/3 makes it feel like a stadium truck, even on the stock gears. RPMs are lower than what I would prefer during normal driving, and I'd rather not have to constantly paddle up or down to solve the RPM/speed equation, so I'm planning to regear some time next year, probably to 4:88. I love the fact that re-tunes are free and we can tinker with our gears/fuel/tune to get the most out of our trucks- whether you're interested in Smiles Per Gallon or Miles Per Gallon, get the most out of your truck with the OTT tune.
OTT is a great tune. So happy I did it. Thanks Chloe for your original video and update.
Just got this done at Westcott Design here in Phoenix AZ. I want to punch myself for not doing it earlier. I should have had it done when I put the 5.29 gears in, but the other shop I went to didn't suggest it. The gear change caused the transmission to not shift in time before the fuel cut off happened. This tune fixed this. Cannot tell you how awesome this is. Also, it's like I have a completely different truck. It has great low-end torque now. I have to get used to it, keep spinning my tires. I can totally light them up now, even with larger tires. Ive noticed much better gas mileage too. I have a 3 inch lift with 33's, but not much more. Just some steps, light bars and ditch lights. But I'm getting easy 20 mpgs all around, both highway and city. Simply the best $450 I've ever spent. If you're in Phoenix, go to Westcott. Fantastic experience with those guys. They also fab many items that, to be honest, is going to get me in trouble with my wife 😮😂. My new candy store
I have the KD Maxx tune on my truck and put 8,000 miles on it since getting tuned in November. I was going to trade in my truck before the tune because the driving experience was frustrating on 285s. After the tune the driving experience is much better and now I’m averaging 15-16mpg combined as opposed to 11-12mpg. I had a great experience with the tune.
Mine is on a 3.5’ lift and 33’s no tune, i average 19-20 when i park it says 21.4 for my work commute .
@@FivexxXxx5did you ever put a tune on your? I have the same set up 3.5”/33s I’m considering it but I’m pretty green to all of this.
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I did not get it tuned. Not sure if im used to it or im just easy on the pedal, but for me it pulls fine. If i need to get up n go on the interstate it’s still got enough power. I bought a truck not a sports car.
I love my OTT tune as well. Ive had it for about 4 months now. I recently had my truck supercharged and will be getting the OTT tune for that next week
What Super Charger did you put on?
I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE TUNE YET: (2018 Tacoma 4x4 Off-road) I am/was one of those people. Huge skeptic! I was afraid of my warranty being voided. I was also paranoid of the dealership updating my factory tune when taking it in for service and “undoing” what I paid to have done. I recently hit 50k, took it in for its 50k service…the trucks shifting & response is more horrible than ever. I drive it with the ECT activated all the time which I don’t feel like I should have to do. When trying to accelerate I feel like I’m always having to dog my truck out to get it to go! I’m over it….I WILL be getting the OTT soon. I’ve been following this topic for quite some time. Thank you for making this vid, just solidifies my decision to get it done.
When you get your truck tuned with OTT they will update first to the latest Toyota software. This prevents the Dealership from overwriting the tune by accident. In regards to warranty: the ECU will still report as stock when the Dealership connects their computers.
I am a skeptic as well and very green to this matter. 19 4x4 off road here. Did you ever make the jump?
I’ve tried multiple tunes (manual transmission) and ultimately decided I prefer stock. I do firmly believe a regear is a great choice even on stock tires. I would personally like to see this channel regear to 5.29s and share the results. It would drive great on 265/70R17s with the auto.
I did 5.29s on the manual with both stock size and 255/75R17s and it’s been great. Revs high, performs well.
I used to be an engine calibrator for an OEM manufacturer. The OEM vs Tuned calibration file might look similar in name (via PN)…but if a dealer really wanted to dig, they would just do a cal compare to the L&G released software for your model year and what’s on your vehicle. If they see variable differences they might ask questions…I’ve never experienced this myself but I’m assuming this would be the process.
only reason for them to look into it would be if something failed, in which case I would reflash to stock. could probably see the flash in the computer history but I doubt they’d check software if the truck doesn’t look too modified. Now if you blow up a second engine/trans they’re definitely going to look into that lol but these engines are extremely well built. It would take a God awful tune and a moron driver to blow up a tacoma powertrain
@@nbaldo003 They do check when it comes to warranty repairs, I've seen people get declined for warranty coverage when i worked for Toyota.
Chloe, thanks for the videos. You gave me confidence to get the OTT. It is simply a GAMECHANGER! Love it! Best $$$ I've ever spent! Paul from PNW Tuning is a rockstar...great guy!!!
Just had mine tuned by OTT / Noah in Wisconsin. Couldn’t be happier as it does exactly what was promised. Can’t wait to tow my Intech Sol Horizon in a couple of weeks.
How did it effect your towing?
I feel like the Tacoma came from the factory on eco-mode. Definitely going to check this out.
How does this affect ECT button and the crawl control ?
While I can't speak for crawl control (I honestly just don't use it when I'm off-roading), but with this tune specifically, the ECT button actually increases the throttle response even more! So you kind of get an additional setting. I haven't played around with it too much though, so I'd reach out to your local tuner for more specific information, hope this helps!
@@ChloeKuo awesome thanks for the info 👍Great content btw!
The ect is more aggressive but smoother while the stock is rough. The stock ect feels like someone who doesnt know how to shift on a manual.
Hi Chloe! Thank you for this Video. I had my truck tuned a week ago by Q and wow what a huge difference!! I love driving my truck! Thank you for the video of you getting your tune from Q, it really help me finally do the best thing I’ve done to my truck!
You got the special "Chloe" merch too!
@@quocpham921 I sure did!! 👍🏼 so awesome!
@@quocpham921 thank you!!
Question… do you fill up at empty, at half or less and How many miles is the truck giving you since the OTT when you fill up?
Yep, KD Max tune for me two years ago on a 2016 Tacoma TRD sport 4wd double cab. Makes it drive as it should from the factory.
I had my 23 TRD OR turned last week. So far, it's a gane changer, a huge improvement.
I love the passion you show in these vids.
Great info on OTT tune chloe this was a good video I love learning more about trucks on your channel keep up the awesome work 💪😎
Car lover and dog lover here- Can we get more Cody content too? He is great on camera!
PNW Tuning did mine and it drives great now. No more gear hunting!
Thanks chloe for your time and your down to earth authentic experience , your video and others i found sold me on it so i Just got my 23 tacoma trd 7 k miles done today with OTT hear in alabama . Everything you mention is exactly what my results where withcthe medium spicy with spicy being ECT engaged . I feel ya on the being a little paranoid about costly changes to our gems but thats life for ya , i cant trust my toyota dealer service since i know they lied to me the other day to get my 10k service done at 7k while i had rear axle recall looked at and adking to look into whinning sound coming from possibly rear or trans when letting off acceleration at road speeds . And general driving . After 2 days i eas told its aggressive tires and normal sounds when i know the difference and its obvious its not the tires , so i consider that being bummed off push me out the door , since they rold me that today before went to get tune if i cant trust that response i checked my oil dip stick and my heart sank when i seen easy visually sized metal shavings on the stick from tip to oil level , wiped on paper towel and put back in pull out and even more . I dipped it in on a cold engine atleastc10 times and everytime had shavings of different sizes . I was so over whelmed i started to shed a tear . I checked oil before dropped it off it was just oil now they change it and im getting this on my stick makes me have to believe it was done on purpose , how else can it happen no acceptable excuse . Not sure how to approach but wish me luck i ts destroying my engine everytime i crank i know that much so a 48k financed with service techs lying and putting metal in my engine hear we go , its like a twilight zone of a black hole i just feel threw its so unbelievable but true . Im gonna watch more your videis just to cheer me up czuse thats what its doing for me atm . . Peace and taco love .
I enjoy my OTT tune . It should have came factory like that.
Agree!!
Thank you for all of the information you give us, it's so helpful!
Great video. I did this but a bit differently and it DID cost more. I purchased the software and the little orange OBD box so I could program it myself. OrangeVirus Tuning is what I purchased. Now I can program it for the tire size change, for premium fuel, and if I change my gears, I have a tune for that from OrangeVirus and can do it myself. And yes, I agree with all of Chloe's results, and the biggest improvement (for me) was the gear hunting. I LOVE it.
I had Paul install the mild medium OTT tune on my 21 TRD OR a few months ago after driving it stock for the first 30k miles. This is hands down the best $500 I have spent on this truck. Its so much more fun to drive. The off the line throttle response, passing capability and hill climbing power are all seriously improved.
What about ur mpg? Did it help gas consumption?
@Dustin421 I don't notice a difference in town driving pretty heavy footed. It seems like I got a little better hwy milage but didn't document it. It is so much more fun that I haven't cared about mpgs yet. Sry.
Hi, Chloe! I love the honesty and professionalism you always show in your videos. I have to say that this one was very helpful to me and came in the right time. I've been doing the research to qet the best tune for my 2022 TRD Sport and last night I was chating with the local OTT tuner. I was 90% convinced after that, but saw your video early this morning and now I'm 100% sure that OTT is the way to go. Thanks a lot and keep that good work. God bless you always.
Great video Chloe on the OTT. You gave an unbiased opinion based on the results of the tune for your truck. I just purchased a 2023 TRD Sport last week and will be getting my trucked tuned in the near future.
I did a YotaWerx tune when my '23 had about 500 miles on it. Today, 10K miles later, no regrets. While it did not solve all the gen3 issues, it definitely improved throttle response and reduced but did not eliminate the dreaded gear hunting. MPG did not change, still poor.
Meeting w/ Paul today for my 23'TRDOF tune. Pretty excited. Great info. Great Video. Thanks
I'm glad you did this Chloe. Your video on using additives was a bit underwhelming... as additives don't really do anything other than maybe help keep the engine clean, maybe help with knocking on older engines, and any performance is extremely negligible, and should be seen right away, not after several tanks. Quoc Pham is a good guy, have chatted with him a couple of times, looking forward to working with him when I get my 4th gen.
Getting OTT tune soon but If you use the ECT button, it holds the gears longer without a tune.
Just listening to you, I have learned more about the Overland Torque Tune than any place else. Thank you! Now I want this over the Pedal Monster!😈
Nice review. I'd be more curious about the more long term effects of any tune. Of course, not enough time has passed for anyone to report. But I will say, when weighing the more likelihood of issues impacting the reliability of a vehicle, electronic alterations I'd suspect more over mechanical alterations, tune versus re gearing. There are historical results searchable with Jeeps and negative long term results. Then again, we're talking Toyota here. Overall, the answers I'm hearing are the same: Does it accelerate better? A: Yes. Does it tow better? A: Yes. Does it still gear hunt? A: YES. And being a 5.29 re gearee, I can confirm these answers.
Getting a tune was great for me. I got a kdmax 10.0 Pick a tune your truck will love it!!!
I'm wondering if I should do my tundra ,glad to see your results. Twin Turbos, Lag is an issue I feel, not like raw power.
I wish I new about this before purchasing the pedal commander, the commander does what it suppose to do and really happy with it, but it doesn't solve the issue of shifting.
I have a video coming out about this soon. But initial impressions of the Pedal Commander-- I like how while even though the odd stock shifting patterns don't change like they do when you get a tune, the increase in throttle response makes it easier to control because the pedal is more predictable
Got a modified version of the Orange Virus 1.5 93 octane tune w a 3.5” hps cold air intake, 76mm tundra throttle body, and a plenum spacer. Neck and neck w my buddies bolt on Ram 5.7. Took it to the track ran mid 14s w it. Considering precat deletes and e85 next to try and get closer to 13s. still on stock gears. tune is night and day on these trucks. had my truck tuned for almost 100k now NO ISSUES! And i get 21-22mpg average when babying it
Just got the OTT tune, and I love it so far, might need to get used to it for a little bit first but everything‘s been pretty smooth
I love my Peddle Commander. It is one of my first and favorite mods. Super easy install. No changes, for me, in MPG. Win win in mu book. Ymmv. Cheers.
Thank you for your video. I was totally stressed about getting this done today. Your input and details gave me the confidence to get it done and it is a big difference with the overall performance. Shifting was my main complaint but the power is great 👍
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As awesome as you are with all of this, i think its safe to say, You have one of the greatest and most caring sets of parents anyone could ask for, Cherish it. Please. For the ones that don't. You grew up with INSANE skills.
Cody 🐕 kinda reminds me of Snoopy 😀. I'm glad that the tune worked out well 👍. Thank you for the update! Great video Chloe. ♥️🌮🐶🐾
Good info & thanks for the 📽️ I'ma get the OTT soon on my '22 TRD off-road 6-speed manual. The truck needs to be tuned to help drive better imo, i can't wait!
I MET HIM LAST NIGHT HE TUNED MY 2005 4RUNNER V8 4WD AND I SHOWED HIM YOUR VIDEO
Very cool...am totally looking at getting the OTT on my truck now. Thanks
Re: Warranty, as far as I understand automotive warranties don't work like other warranties. For most consumer products they can void the warranty if they see you've modified the product, however for an automotive warranty the onus is on the manufacturer to prove that your modification caused the defect.
Remember the warranty only covers defects. If there are any signs that the engine was pushed beyond normal use or any evidence that the ECM was tampered with they are not under any legal obligation to do warranty work. It would be on the vehicle owner to prove otherwise in a breach of warranty lawsuit.
Hi Chloe, I'm the daughter of a mechanic. I share your love of Toyota trucks and off-road vehicles? I love women showing their love for fixing things. Just curious, are you a self taught mechanic? I really believe in supporting each other in being courageous in learning new skills. Thank you! Trish
Thanks Trish 😄 I wouldn’t go so far to say I’m anywhere close to being a mechanic haha, but I’ve learned a lot from DIY and spending a lot of time watching/“helping” other people with their own builds. It’s a fun hobby that has a steep learning curve but is very rewarding!
Good follow up video. My dealership did reccomend the OTT and had business cards on the counter. Have it about 2 months and like it....throttle is touchy and takes getting used too. On cruise control with the radar it searches for gears too much so Brian my OTT guy said use the cruise w/o the radar. Pedal Commander was a no no according to the dealer.
Check back with your tuner to take the throttle a notch down if you feel it’s too touchy.
Can you elaborate on why the dealer discouraged a Pedal Commander? It seems far less intrusive than a tune. I've had a Pedal Commander for about a year. It completely changed throttle response (in a very positive way) for my 2021 Off-Road. I love it for both short and long trips.
@@gpclark007 the dealer stated with the PC they had numerous customers coming in with engine codes. I didn't ask what the codes were but other U Tube channel viewers were saying the same thing they were experiencing. If you have the tune and then don't like it you can have the truck recalibrate to stock.
@@scottgorman7166 I see. I've not had any engine code conditions. I would think removing the PC would be easier (anyone can install/de-install one) since it's just sitting between your foot throttle and the original cable. Isn't it just mimicking what your foot COULD do? It's not changing anything on your vehicle. Hey, thanks for the feedback though ... good to know/watch out for.
@gpclark007 when I purchased my tacoma the toyota salesman was the one that introduced me to the pedal commander. As my paperwork was being processed he was showing me online where to purchase the pc.
Awesome video! I got my OTT tune because of you LOL
I always enjoy your videos…great infos…Aloha from Hawaii..
Where we travel on lava roads to get to our fishing spots…where a lift is needed and strong sidewalls…and the fishing is awesome!
I'll be honest around town it was alright but on any interstate I absolutely hated my Tacoma. Had OTT for a year now and it's worth every penny.
Very good information and greatly appreciated the map link for a tuner. Only found one in Raleigh,NC. Better than none for sure. Thanks !
When will you release the Pedal Commander vs the OTT tune Video? I am debating this currently
Quoc is the man. He does great work. Lots of folks in the TRSD group speak very highly of him.
I can attest to this.
You make great vids Chloe. Just a word of advice, I don't think you should use the pedal Commander, I've heard from a few friends that it will give you a check engine light. I've been using Sprint booster for quite some time, no problems with it. Just my 2¢. Good luck trying young lady!
cant wait to get my 4 runner tuned on the 21 cant wait to see how it runs
Is CARB-compliance any concern? I don't live in CA, nor do I have a Tacoma. It seems *everything* is "taboo" in CA. I am just a curious resident of another state.
Another awesome video!! Thanks
I drive with my Tacoma transmission in S and shift when I need.. maybe its not good for it but so far so good..
Health and Happiness to you.
I’ve almost thought about doing that because the lag in power is horrible. I drive mine with the ECT on all the time and feel like I really have to dog the motor out to get any kind of performance
I have a 6inch lift on my 3rd gen, also have 20’s wrapped around in 35’s Toyo’s at, have a trip to Colorado to visit family, and then to Texas. Don’t care about mpg, but will probably get one done to see if it’ll help with mpg for the travel, but also with the mountains.
Did you regear it?
Driving an older Toyota Pickup with a mechanical throttle with a manual transmission daily, you really notice the lag in the throttle response in the Tacoma.
In terms of gear ratios one possible reason to want to change is not just the sort of performance that a tune would help with but also to lower them for more control off road. The Tacoma comes with fairly high gears from the factory and this makes it nice for the road but off road lower gears might help. All the usual caveats about your specific situation still apply.
Helpful video. Did you notice any changes in the gas mileage at all?
Q is awesome, super cool dude and couldn't be happier with the end result.
I think it sucks that we need to modify the ECU to make the car better to drive, Toyota should do a recall and install OTT in all Tacomas in the world
I think Toyota needs to find out what the tune sweet spot is and do this at the factory. Although I'd hate to see these tuners go out of business, it's really not fair to the customer that Toyota has been getting these complaints for so long all while doing nothing to correct it, all while there's a clear solution out there.
Chloe, thanks for the great video! Do you know if the OTT tune affects the longevity of the trucks transmission and engine?
I get it’s suppose to come with better tuning from factory, but if you’re not going for a power increase there’s nothing stoping you for using the manual shift in these trucks.
I also had that one minute of severe anxiety when flashing my truck with a tune 😂
Overall I like you're videos. On this one, I really wished that you had documented the fuel MPG better before and after the tune - that would have been useful.
Chloe, Im seriously thinking about doing this tune also, so thanks for your time making this video. Do you have a list of what settings you ended up using?
Thanks for your video. i recently bought a 22 Tacoma TRD Sport. Been watching your video and learned alot from you.
Funny, I don't have the tune yet but I get 18 to 19 MPG in the city but a solid 13.5 MPG on the highway. I actually avoid the highway and take back roads to keep my MPG up. I'll be interested to see if the tune fixes my highway MPG.
After your initial vtdeo on the OTT, I did my research and got their local rep to tune mine Mild/Medium and it made my truck feel like it should.
I've found my 6-speed manual transmission is very predictable on my 2014 tacoma V6 trd off-road 4x4. :)
Same, but I wouldn't mind more low-end torque especially in first and second gear. I am however very nervous about this tune affecting longevity. I want 500k miles and 30+ years over better acceleration. With the stick, it is easy to rev it up a bit more and downshift when you need it. Glad to see another MT in here - they are so much more fun to drive everyday!!
Which level of spicy did you go with? Love my OTT, i'm in the 3rd tank of gas and absolutely love it. I've ran 91 with stock tires just to see how it runs. Id say the mpg is much better since the rpms are more stable, but not by much. The ECT is like 2 tunes in one at the push of a button... Q is the man! Great review CK!
Awesome vid thanks for the follow up! I see you put in 87. Any other 94 lovers out there or am I just throwin money away 😂
Nice video. If this had existed two years ago, I wouldn't have wasted two years trying to decide if I wanted the tune or not. My tuner is qualified to do Orange virus, kdmax, and ott. I went with ott because when we discussed it, he really wasn't interested in doing any but ott calling it the newest technology. I have a 2018 TRD OR 3.5 liter 4x4 and after owning 6 Toyota trucks and 4 bys previously I was literally hating my 3rd gen. After the tune I'm thrilled! I also agree with pretty much everything you said though my gas mileage went up just over 20% from 14 to 18 if not too much stop and go traffic. Freeway about the same. I think the difference in my case is due to vehicle weight - skids, sliders, winch and bumper, recovery gear, etc. I also have a 2500 plus or minus travel trailer. I did not notice any change in gas mileage when towing, flat or mountainous. Taco mileage just sucks when towing! However the gear hunting is completely gone without the trailer and minimal with it going uphill. So just adding my experience. I also love watching you mechanicing! Now, go hit some trails!
I have offered KDmax and OTT in the past. If you want to have a safe, reliable and proper verified tune on your truck then there is no better option than OTT. Some tune developers don’t even test a tune on the vehicle it is offered for. Thats a big no go for me.
With OTT you can rest assured that the people behind it have a deep knowledge about the trucks engine and transmission. They invest in data loggers and analyzing software in order to verify key parameters for a reliable function. Then they take the vehicle onto the dyno for further fine tuning. No short cuts taken.
Great video. Thanks for the information. Can I ask what size lift you are running on your Taco?
1.5” lift all aroubd!
Personally I would be really worried about tuning my particular truck 2018 TRD off-road 6-ft bed. The reason I would be worried is I get excellent fuel of economy and my transmission does not hunt for gears. I may have an exceptional Tacoma from the factory so I don't want to fool with it. A bad tank of fuel for me is 23 and I often get up to 26 and that's not on the dashboard that's actual miles and gallons calculated. I very typically get 425 to 450 miles on a tank. So I will leave mine alone. Thank you that was interesting to watch 👍
What engine is your truck the 4 cylinder?
@@edgarmadrid2343 The 3.5 V6
450 miles per tank you must allways drive down hill to get that ha?
@@jandelahoussaye9834 No It just gets great fuel economy. A bad tank for me is 23
Thanks for the Review. You answered a lot of my questions.
What seat covers do you have chloe?.. they look great!
Thank you Chloe for this excellent video review. Hello from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
I have a stock 2023 Tacoma and I noticed it did not want to use 6th gear at consistent highway speeds. I live in Canada so at 120km/hr it likes to stay at 5th gear which keeps the rpm to 2k and up on a flat saskachewan road.
Loved the videos about the OTT tune I’m getting a tune today and I’m mainly doing the tune because I got bigger wheels and tires and also for towing my show car. I didn’t see you mention anything about towing do you know if there is any improvements in that aspect?
Great video! Thank you. I have a question kinda off topic. How many miles do you pit on your KO2’s before you replace them?
I love the lite tune, My mpg went down after tune 😁. Yeah i dont mind. stock tune is slow
Hi have you had any issues after your tune ?
One question :how much did this process cost? Loved your review. Thanks.
I believe the price may vary depending on the location, but in Texas, I purchased mine for $400!
They went up. It’s $450 now
$400-$500 is pretty standard from what I hear
oh man, when you mentioned your truck is gear hunting in cruise control, that hit a nerve because I have a Tundra and it does the same thing and that kills my gas millage hard. I would love to see if your guy has a tune for the Tundra's, I would be very interested in it for my truck.
When tuners start operating out of brick and mortar shops, then I'll probably give it a shot. What recourse does the customer have should the tune somehow screw up their truck, and the tuner is hundreds of miles away? The claim is that there is no record of this happening, but that doesn't mean it hasn't. If it DOES happen, what then? The idea of tuning sounds great, so why aren't any brick and mortar shops doing it? I'm not trying to be negative, but I'm just posing concerns everyone seems to have. While it looks very tempting I'm still reluctant to fiddle around with my 40K truck.
Great video Chole. Very informative. I know price will probably very depending on location. What does something like this run?
Best to reach out to the closest tuner. The map is linked in her comments.
Most tuners in the states will charge $400-500 but it can vary
I’m curious how this tune effects the life of the engine and transmission I want it so bad cuz the shifting is really bugging me but I bought it brand new and I want as many miles out of it as possibl
What do you think of the new 2024 Tacoma Sport with the manual transmission should make for a nice street truck with a big turbo upgrade 🥵