MEGACITIES: Reality or Fiction? [Architecture in Sci-Fi]
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00:00 INTRO
01:12 MEGACITY ONE | JUDGE DREDD
06:27 NEW YORK CITY | THE FIFTH ELEMENT
12:50 WASHINGTON DC | MINORITY REPORT
14:40 CONCLUSIONS
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As an architect have looked in detail at the causes of collapse of the 3 skyscrapers on 9/11?
In particular building number 7
can you do a video on Neri Oxman and Francis Ford Coppola’s new project “Megalopolis”?
@@PetraKann Airliners full of jet fuel crashed and the burning fuel destroyed the integrity of the steel girders. The building that fell first what the building that was last, but was hit at the mid level of the building. The tower that was hit first was hit at the top and it fell last. It was all about the weight. That 'small' building 7 was so badly damaged, it had to be destroyed.
I hope this was not a question about a controlled demolition of the towers.
You got the lockdown in the Dredd completely wrong. It was criminal gangs controlling the block that turned the lockdown on when the Judges captured someone who knows the leader of the gang responsible for distribution of certain drug in the entire Megacity one that lived inside that block. They just used a system that's designed to protect inhabitants from nuclear blasts that are far away for the entire structure to survive and claimed it was a drill.
Mega City One didn't lock down because of a crime.. it was hacked by the drug dealers and initiated war time protocol
Just to be clear in the 2012 film Dredd they did not lock down the building because a crime had been committed. The gang that controlled the tower killed its maintenance staff, overrode the controls and enabled "War" mode which enabled the blast doors designed for nuclear attack to be lowered.
Exactly.
Doesn't mean that it wasn't possible to do so if you wanted to. The building was clearly designed with that possibility. Perhaps the permit for "war precaution" was easier to obtain than the "crime lockdown" one :)
Poor homeless gateway dude. 😔
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These shorts are extremely effective at getting you interested in the full length videos... she's doing TH-cam right!
That's why I started watching too. 😅
Kind of hard to get it wrong when YT tells you how to do it.
As for the "blurring of private and public spaces" issue, I think that building in Chongqing where a public tram goes THROUGH a residential building, with a station right within the building, is a great case study.
Its China. There's nothing private there
@@vineetmishra2690 There is with vpn, emps, and good soundproofing though!
honestly though yeah nothing's private here.
@@jakedavidheilemann1208why are emps on that list
@@jakedavidheilemann1208also vpn isn’t privacy it’s just choosing who ur sharing ur data with. Someone still knows and can track everything u do
@@vineetmishra2690 there's no privacy anywhere where the internet exists
8:50 even medieval Italy had this in Bologna. There were ~100 towers in the city, some connected by networks of bridges. The rich built the towers as residences to get away from rioting, and then they built the bridges so they could visit other towers without having to go down to street-level.
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One of the things that struck me about _The Fifth Element_ was how those apartments had designated places for tenants to "assume the position" for when police came prowling the halls.
That’s why you exchange the name plates with the guy across the hall,like Major, Korben Dallas, he’s Crazy, unlike Colonels, they’re stupid and Crazy.
I am a meat-popsicle.
I keep referencing the same film all manner of ways! Interestingly you see the same concept manifesting all over the world. No coincidence, if you get trapped where do you go?
Multipass
Those are coming soon
When you mentioned Le Corbusier and talked about his design philosophies, that really reminded me of how cities are built in Cities Skylines. Made me chuckle a bit. It feels so easy to accidentally create something dystopian when you're trying to be neat.
Corbusier was wrong about everything. Just google his grave. That dustbin and sand cigarette end dump on a concrete plinth is the eternal resting place that he chose.
That's the main reason I can't play these games. I live in western Europe where there's pretty much no zoning (except logistics and dirty industry). It's so hard to do something like that in the old Sim City games or in skylines. In addition, rich people in those games want to drive their car even when public transportation is great, which is very American but doesn't hold at all in the Netherlands. Many things in those games feel wrong to me; they don't model what I'm used to.
@@NirielWinxI wonder if its anything to do with the creators of the games. Like if they are American or European and how the game wants you to plan out ur builds
@NirielWinx I think anno is a bit better
The historically Western Obsession to individuate and specialize everything indirectly neglects the power of cohesion when different concepts intersect one another. In a city or living environment, it makes sense to make sure everything necessary for life (homes, stores, offices, etc.) are in close proximity to each other, because within the human experience, proximity and convenience are natural benefits to living well.
About the pod access straight to the apartment, i definitely see this as a way to avoid absolutely every single social interaction outside of your chosen spheres, and your residence becomes a no-location completely cut off society which adds up to social isolation. It could also lead up to buildings built without internal circulation, cars essentially working as an elevator, generating more distance between neighbours.
This was exactly my thought when she explained it, which is why I was surprised that she saw it as the opposite, especially since she supports the idea that mixed use areas are better. I feel like it's pretty commonly understood on channels like this that private transportation is a cause of dystopian environments, but I guess that's not seen as objective as I thought.
@@maxinefinnfoxen Yeah, I wasn't sure if I misunderstood her or what, direct residential exits seems to intuitively be pretty isolating.
I feel like it generally just depends, in similar spaces I’ve seen wonderful communities flourish but it’s definitely based on the “type” of people within them. The average person would become isolated, but only because they choose not to be the arbiters of their own destiny, not because a building allows people who didn’t want to talk in the first place will never see you.
@@ghatesspeech what do you mean similar spaces?????
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Fun fact: Dredd was actually filmed in South Africa mostly in Johannesburg and Cape Town. In the aerial scenes at 1:10 and 1:45 where you see the megatowers of Megacity 1, you can see the actual real life buildings of Johannesburg in between the CGI megatowers that have been overlaid on the city. I really like that you mention an actual building in Johannesburg that closely mirrors the megatowers of Megacity 1 in the Dredd movie.
That's super sick
oh yea I remember that Sylvester Stallone film, I had no idea that it was filmed in Johannesburg, but I thought it was older
Between that and District 9 it's difficult to understand why South Africans are some of the proudest, loudest and obnoxious people to those from other countries.
Really? Johannesburg is so much nicer than it was in the early part of the 20th century. Much more vibrant
@@rphb5870it was the new Dredd not the one with Sly, check it out
I used to think dystopian megacities weren't a possibility in our reality until I heard of places like Kowloon Walled City. It's fascinating how these developments evolved over time and can become problematic. It also makes me wonder if this problem could be solved with proper planning or if we would just end up with a human scale Calhoun Utopia experiment.
Kowloon is the result of BIG (Brother) GOVERNMENT😊
What? Kowloon walled city was the result of absolutely no government oversight. Your thoughts must be pretty twisted to come up with that narrative.
The problem with "proper planning" is the length of time it takes to make a reality, and whether or not the reality will be feasible for the interest of the future generations. Basically you spend 10,20, maybe 30 years of data collection, then another who knows how long to build this environment that curtails any potential problems that could or have happened prior. Well then the landscape(culturally speaking) will be completely different, and likely won't align with the public interests of the time.
@@tablescissors67 Kowloon is becuase of LACK OF ANY GOVENMENT. it was a legal loophole (NO FUCKING TAXES.) because of the british-chinese wars. the reason it died was because the brits left.
Kowloon was a paradise that few wished to leave until the chinese government got involved and forced them to move to the mainland.
Umm, actually... *pushes glasses up * Peachtrees was placed on lock-down by Ma-Ma's captive technician who faked a "Nuclear Readiness Test." Ma-Ma was doing everything in her power to ensure that Kay didn't leave Peachtrees alive, because he knew too much about her operation.
Dredd is criminally underrated. Karl Urban was perfect for the role.
I can't help but think that if it wasn't marketed as Dredd-3D it would have done much better!
@@ryanmackenzie4678 I mean, they needed to market and distribute the film better all around. They screwed themselves over with the poor handling of marketing and distribution.
At least two more movies were deserved.
The first movie I paid for on TH-cam! I watch it to death.
I even made a soap line for my business called Peach Trees. 😂
@@FoxVox piratebay/utorrent still works y'know 😉
Having grown up in/around Calgary, I was excited to see the mention of the skyways, but my first thought was "I wish they were for us regular people too." You absolutely nailed the social aspect of them. They connect to the richest shopping mall and the most exclusive buildings in the city, yet they're not exactly accessible or useful to the rest of us.
You see , they tried to do the same thing in edmonton , but we just didn't care Literally the population is decided bitterly are just going to use this because it's A necessity that we need in the winter. And there is just so many people using .That literally , the companies decided that they can't stop us. And they simply gave up and started just doing their actual job Maintaining the buildings instead of just trying to ensure that only the richest of the echelon get to enjoy the benefits that our city is giving their companies.
If you look at the 5th element scenes in Korbens apartment, the thing that immediately sprung to my mind was, a cargo container. The working people of the city, were basically cargo and their 'homes' were just a place to store them when they were not working. Even the hallways outside if you look closely, resemble one of those self-storage places interiors. Those 'apartments' had all the warmth of a storage locker, and an was intentional look by the set designers. Cornelius's apartment otoh, had a far more traditional look by contrast to Korbens industrial locker.
for anyone who has played CyberPunk 2077, the apartment complex that V lives in, is an exact inspiration from the movie Judge Dredd. So glad that CDPR involved a lot of pop culture
The Megabuildings in Cyberpunk 2077 allow you to travel through them and see what it would be like to live in a fairly dilapidated one (though V keeps their apartment pretty nice in contrast to other apartments you see). It's interesting how they have a mixture of social interaction areas (like the section just to the right of V's apartment block where there are vending machines, food kiosks and a makeshift gym) and storefronts, though clearly janitorial services are lax at best; and in some megabuildings gangs like the Tyger Claws or 6th Street Gang maintain control over several floors. V's megabuilding is across the street from an NCPD precinct building, perhaps resulting in higher patrolling in their building in contrast to others-though it could be argued that the NCPD is just one more gang, despite the game's generally favorable view of police.
@@DevinParker lmao what are you on about?😂😂😂😂
@@ValenThePowerful 🤓
Are you sure? I take it CyberPunk 2077 is based on the game by R. Talsorian, and R. Talsorian's Night City got published way way back, so that the reverse might have been possible -- Judge Dredd has got it from the Night City sourcebook.
v's building is not "an inspiration from the movie"
you would say "the movie inspired v's building"
as someone who grew up in and still lives in a rural area, this sort of thing can be difficult to wrap my brain around existing in. your thoughts on things like making sure to provide natural light make me realize how much i take sunlight for granted. and i feel like "natural" spaces would have to be a must in these structures. parks, gardens, greenhouses. someplace where there are plants and bugs and birds and life other than humans. i know personally if i went too long without seeing a bird or bug i would lose my mind lol. im also interested to see if and how things like flooring evolve to be more comfortable. and things like sound. making sure people have quiet places to go. a futuristic soundproof botanical garden perhaps?
I moved to an urban area after being rural for most of my life and can confirm that going too long without seeing non human life has made some people nuts. And I mean I've heard some UNHINGED things in climate change discussions at work for real. I also get more homesick when I'm stuck inside :(
@@slithra227 Im sure :( I mean hell I get bored and depressed during the winter bc of the absence of life. the randomness of the discovery of nature that a manufactured space cant provide is something difficult to explain. one of my favorite things to do is walk around my yard and the lake near my house and just. look for stuff. bugs i havent seen. see what plants are different this year. i planted a wildflower garden just so i could see all the different bugs that would visit. i could live without it, yeah, but id miss it so much. being surrounded by it.
@@JackTheVulture whatever you do, stay in that rural area for as long as you can. There ain't nothin pretty going on in the cities I promise.
"i know personally if i went too long without seeing a bird or bug i would lose my mind lol."
The reverse is possible too. My sister once came visiting us in the countryside for a weekend and brought a friend. Her friend had never really left the city before and lost her mind over all the bugs, birds, and nature noises in general, she kinda went a little crazy. In the afternoon, same day, my sister's friend decided to travel back home by train because she couldn't take it anymore.
So it really depends on perspective. Someone who has spend most of their time in cities is likely to oppose nature, and those who spend most their time in nature are likely to oppose cities. This contrast in perspective will just become more intense in the future.
@@francookie9353 haha, i plan to! Tho I enioy being near enough to cities to visit. I especially like museums/aquariums etc, luckily im within a day trip of many cool ones! Being able to hop over to Philly to do something is nice. But i like my home base out here.
When Denise Villeneuve finishes with his take on Herbert's "Dune", he is supposedly contracted to film Arthur C. Clarke's "Rendezvous with Rama", depicting a whole "world", with lakes, cities and all, on the inside of a giant cylindrical spaceship. I hope you get a chance to review the movie when it comes out.
We must protect Villeneuve lmao
@DamiLee - you seriously misrepresented the intent and design of the shutters in Dredd. They are Cold War style civil defense protection against external _military_ nuclear attack. Justice Department had zero control of those doors! [1] If lockdown was response to major crime, it would have been initiated the moment the crime was reported/noticed, OR called for by Dredd! Instead, the control room was hijacked and the system used to ENTRAP the Judges. [2] The Justice Department had NO control of the system, where it came to admitting reinforcements (a poor choice for an ostensible tool for controlling civil unrest), whereas the criminals who'd hijacked the system did.
Threw me off guard to hear my home city, Calgary, being mentioned! When I lived downtown there, I'd use the plus 15 bridges all the time. It's a wild and almost trippy feeling to be able to go almost everywhere downtown without going outside once (one of them was attached to my apartment).
I come from edmonton jesus i can go west end to down town in a forest and walk back up to buildings
Hah. I live south of Calgary and remember as a kid whenever we would do trips there the sky ways would always catch my attention. As kids do I just thought that was normal. I later realized it wasn't as common. Interesting seeing what Calgary is turning into with all the "prefab" suburb blocks going in now so quickly.
That sounds pretty cool
I just found out from a different vid of hers that she's based in Vancouver so I'm guessing we'll be seeing lots of Canadian shout-outs!
Fun fact....there are many buildings in Johannesburg and South Africa in general that get hijacked by criminal gangs, in the area of Hillbrow in Johannesburg, almost every residential building has been hijacked by various gangs, crime is a real problem in my country...by the way, your videos are so informative...I never realized that so much went into architecture, keep putting these out.... greetings from a South African
@Sue Sue the government became "native" ofcourse.
or, i prefer to say there is a bantu and venda infestation
When I visited there as a teenager I thought what a gorgeous dystopian city later learned how those great buildings were theashed and never been reclaimed. Don’t know how to feel.
@Sue Sue Now-a-days? Its always been. Only now-a-days it gets the press it always should have.
Its been proven high crime rates are the result of resource deprivation. Spread the wealth and reduce the crime. Trouble *IS* criminals at the top propagandise the public and deceive the world into thinking that crime is the problem and not a symptom of a problem which is *THEM* . I will receive your rebuttals and dispatch them one by one as time permits.
@@abdulhamidozturk Design must fit culture and conditions. This is wisdom. Conditions and culture are variables with the former more in flux than the latter. The success of a structure does not solely rely on its engineering but also on its suitability to the culture and environment it is placed. Drink from the fountain of knowledge so you need not re-invent the wheel.
Hi Dami. I really like your videos. I was a stationary engineer, then an HVAC/R technician, then an HVAC/R Instructor, and now a corporate trainer. I have studied the evolution of buildings. I think my employer missed the bet when they designated themselves as "Comfort Specialists" Comfort is snuggling under a warm blanket on a cold day. I think this field is of existential importance. Our... meaning humanity's, survival will increasingly depend upon our ability to sustain an environment in which we can thrive. It has always been this way, but climate change will accelerate this necessity. I consider myself an Indoor Environmental Specialist. (I made that up...) When we go to Mars, when we go back to the Moon, (or Venus? IO? The Planet Formerly Known as Pluto?) the ability to bring our environment with us becomes imperative. These magnificent buildings are the perfect proving grounds for this idea. Keep up the good work!
I don't think you are what you think you are. You are a member of the old blood mechanics.Those who keep working on the machinery of life so that humanity itself will not die out. It's only now that you've just realized what you are destined to truly do. Welcome to the brotherhood. We will expect great things from you to come in the future acolyte. For if not for us old blood mechanics , the world will truly destroy itself and humanity is doomed. We need to We need to.
Save this planet before we can ever think about looking to the stars. We save the Earth.We save humanity.We save humanity.We save the stars
I think this new digitalisation of the work culture will continue to open up the wish to live outside the cities and work from home. Some places like Stockholm sweden actually see more people leaving the major cities than moving in now
You see the same thing in New York. What we are seeing is a whole class of people disappearing. Working people cannot afford to live there. Real estate is still going up. The wealth gap is the big problem today. We are reaching a point where half the population doesn't matter, because the other 50% have 90% of all the money. But one cannot compare America to Europe. They don't have the same zoning laws. Europe has mixed zoning.
@UnitTrace arcologies, mallplexes, and beavervilles.
Read Snow Crash, that has some excellent depictions of suburban cyberpunk.
Rural is usually a non starter due to nuclear fallout, climate collapse, corp ownership of the land, or any combination of the above.
HANDS DOWN my favorite video from you... your storytelling and editing gets better and better... (also, The Fifth Element is my #1 movie!). Keep up the great work!!!
I second this! Nice work!
I third this! Nice work!
I millionth this
I thought people forgot about it, it surprises me to see The Fifth Element mentioned. As a kid I watched the movie every single summer evening, falling asleep on the sofa with VCR running the tape till the end....
im not interested in being an architect, but you make such interesting videos that i have a new appreciation for architecture. the way you edit and sometimes implement comedy is probably one of my favorite things about this channel. i usually watch your new uploads before school lolol
Like to see her take on the mirrors edge cities. Not all dystopias are grimy and dark.
"if you trust the government..." we're are so screwed.
You brought up a good point of having policies to prevent separation of class because that is something so few sci fi movies have usually for the plot but still. In real life you have thing like redlining that still hasnt been overcome
Hey I designed the manufacturing method that allowed for the tolerances on the sunshade at 16:08! I also did all of the CNC Mill programming for those parts. Its so exciting to see my work in videos like these!
That's awesome ☺️ great work
Great job!
You allowed tolerances for expansion ... that isn't exactly rocket science and made some metal parts, people in workshops and factories do this all the time, untrained youtubers do similar on the daily
@@thomgizziz hey thanks for being a fan of machining TH-cam.
Specifically what I designed was the manufacturing method for the earthquake protection on those panels. The part had a 10 thousandths of an inch tollarance, but the stock material had a 25 thousandths tolerance and variation. What I designed was a system to manufacture hundreds-thousands of these parts over the course of 18 months with rotating staff of machine operators, none of whom were trained machinists.
The cuts I designed into these parts also had to line up with cuts on those parts from another machine to withing 30 thousandths, so I worked with the engineer over that process to design the interface system.
We didn't have the crazy tight tolerances of less than one tenth of a thousand, but this was a manufacturing feat, not a machining one.
@@thomgizziz 🤡
I'm a sci-fi author with a city on my hands; Dami, your thoughts are food to the part of my mind that is continually brining it into being: I'm particularly interested in Old World cities becoming megalopolises, architecture with a thousand plus years separating it, continually evolving and renewing, so thank you kindly for your insights! 😅🥰
I know right. Fuelling my ideas as well. Also, do you have any books out yet. Even stories? Kinda in the same area myself but more of a fantasy writer though. And just starting on my end. Lol.
That’s not the plural of pegapolis
You should go visit Athens! It has been so mind changing for me and it is a huuuuge huuuge city. And within it, ancient history and the history of gods, mythology and some of the biggest philosophers that ever lived
London is nearly 2000 year olds so fits the bill. I loved living there.
Your comment is so beautiful and interesting, and because of it I have to ask, have you seen the old Roman tiered(?) mills that just edged on industrialism many centuries before it was even a thought in anyone's mind? Just before Rome bit off more than it could chew.
I cant think of the resources off the top of my head, but in seriousness I would make the effort to find it for you as I adore complex scifi.
This's a pretty original and unique content, I'm actually amazed. When thought about the implausibility of fictional concepts of future, I never thought about the practical engineering (tho aesthetic topics crossed my mind) and how it would reflect in society's dynamics, so it's a pretty fascinating and surprising content, congratulations
I just love your chats. I often think of these things, and you always effortlessly take my thoughts, and observations to a greater level. Thank you!
Hi DamiLee ! I'm a student in urbanism from Montreal. I just want to let you know that our teacher in Theories of Urbanism asked us to watch your video for his class. This is really, really well done ! I love the visuals, the research you've done and how you manage to explain a lot of stuff in a relatively short time, but it doesn't feel like too much information. I've subbed and will definitely watch some of your other content. Merci et continue comme ça ! :)
The TH-cam algorithm hit me with an absolute MASTERPIECE! So glad to have discovered you and can't wait to just drive in to everything youve already made and continue to make
exactly this myself :) a very happy find ^_^
jeez i appreciate great communication skills
Me too!
Same! I’m an architecture nerd. Finally recommended something I actually want to watch!
I only just found your account today! I am so happy I did, not only was this video super interesting but it was also super relevant to my university painting exegesis/thesis based on dystopias. So not only was your views on the use of architecture informative, but also your recommendation to try Milanote has saved me! I find it really hard to make notes, especially when they intertwine with one another. So Milanote is soooo helpful for connecting videos, articles, notes, artworks etc. all in one place.
So all in all I really love your channel but also this video overall is so insanely cool in so many ways! Lots of support from a new fan from New Zealand! Go Dami!!
One technology that would enable something like a "starscraper" is active support. Active support uses the momentum of a moving liquid through a loop to hold up a building. Think of a fire hose, and how it turns rigid and can hold itself up once water is flowing through it. So long as you increase the velocity of the fluid, you can build higher and higher without needing to think about the strength of the materials. And if the flow of the fluid is interrupted, the building wouldn't suddenly collapse - it would slowly drop as the velocity of the water decreased. If you build with this in mind, you could make buildings that change shape throughout the day - if the liquid pumps were solar powered, your structure would rise in the morning and sink in the evening.
You know Dami's got dope taste in movies when she starts off a whole in-depth video about the building from DREDD. Ain't nobody out there has ever touched on this subject, that's when you know Dami is gonna go BIG on TH-cam. Can't wait to see December Dami! 🙌
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she obviously didnt watch it because as the comment upvoted 2k times above said, it shut down because of the criminal gang controlling the building, not because of a crime.
Found her today and the channel is just amazing. She knows her shit.
Just downloaded Milanotes for my Teaching job, let’s see what happens.
No those are the dumbest grade B Sci Fi films geez dope indeed
As a sci fi writer and enthusiast, I really appreciate that you made this video, it gives me a lot of ideas and understanding how to create the landscapes I want, as well as how to improve ideas Ive been ruminating on
The future looks more gray by year. Just from the perspective that the humanity would eventually replace all remaining nature with urban places. But this video was very educational. I don't know much about architecture in general, but those concepts that affect the community all together was very interesting. I personally never thought how much does a design of a living area could affect the community that lives there. Thanks for sharing.
It only looks gray if you stay in the gray places i.e. big cities. But cities only cover a small potion of Earths' land area. And handle a lot more people for it due to their inherent efficiencies. They aren't what's replacing nature, that's farmland. Agriculture is what's destroying natural environments far more than cities themselves ever have or will. Of course most of that food goes to feed the people in cities, but that's just cos that's where the people are. The cities themselves aren't the ones covering the terrain.
That's because the movies that feature these places are bleak as f***. The directors make it look that way. Even our current modern cities have trees, grass, and other plants all over the place. Even large areas called parks.
This video is remarkable, I came across your account not too long ago, and I have to express how much I love it. I followed after watching the first video. Your uploads are genuinely engaging, direct, and full of knowledge. Technology and nature go hand in hand; we can make a world that can be highly advanced technologically while also being surrounded by flora and fauna without solely thinking of profitability by neglecting basic needs.
It's a shame you missed the Bioshock game series. They had some really cool city concepts - cities underwater and cities floating in the sky.
I sure hope the cities of tomorrow don't evolve vertically, but rather reach some sort of balance between verticality and horizontally. Japan already has trains that can travel at hundreds of km per hour which could help with the potential problem of cities becoming too long.
Anyways, cool vid!
From what I've seen in urbanism videos until now it seems that the biggest issue with very tall building is actually represented by elevators. They aren't efficient in transporting people quickly and in great numbers. Everytime I go and visit a skyscrapper I'm always surprised by the amount of time you spend waiting for an elevator.
Current elevators also can't actually cover that many floors either. I mean, they can go up a LOT but when buildings start getting to a certain size, you're going to need transfers. There are elevators in development that can go from top to bottom of any height, but proving that they're as safe as current elevators (which are insanely safe) is a big hurdle to cross, as well as cost inhibiting factors.
And cost is actually one of the biggest problems of tall buildings. The higher you go, the more ridiculous the cost of pumping water that high. On the tallest buildings, water to the higher levels reaches a ridiculous cost. Not only that but the density of these buildings for the amount of area they take up creates problems for water, sewage, transport, electricity... basically everything.
@@che3se1495 yeah it's almost like too many people is a problem
hell is the company of other people you know that sentiment
@@che3se1495 The limiting factor with elevators is the cables. That’s the same issue that cable cars have.
Two alternates are currently available to bypass that limitation - make the cars self propelled (a vertical rack railway (which also permits sideways travel) or use linear induction motors.
Both options permit multiple cars moving independently in each lift well (basically a vertical railway line).
This makes concepts like an up shaft and a down shaft possible with sidings to load and unload passengers.
That also frees up floor space currently occupied by lifts.
@allangibson8494 Yes, but the cables are integral to the current safety mechanisms, which make elevators so safe. Developments for cableless elevators is going well, but they have big hurdles to meet the same safety standards set by cable elevators. Still much safer than driving.
Seriously, your channel has been so inspiring in regards to the creation of maps and buildings to explore when creating scenarios for my roleplaying game sessions. Knowing how these structures have been thought and the effects on communities has been eye opening for the creation of a living world that makes sense.
I've been watching many videos without commenting, but you managed to bring back my childhood's passion for cartography. That is an achievement. 😆
SciFi can be a great source for inspiration and philosophical thinking. I love how Dami exemplified this through her competence and passion.
As an architect, with a huge passion for film, I’m really digging this. Glad I stumbled across you!
As a non architect BUT an aspiring amateur writer who loved growing up and also playing for years afterwards pen and paper rpgs, and 16 years of them also as DM on groups which means also writtung my own stories and designing all that includes for them , having studied medieval weaponry, medieval societal structures and institutions ( for governing, trading assiciations , guilds...etc) as well religions, systems of occultism and esoterica (for magic of course) and of course architecture for castles up to pyramids (well older civ dungeons) etc as well a lover of sci-fi and cyberpunk subgenre especially i really love the fact we have arived to a point we can discuss in Internet as well get reviews of use of such complicated design efforts in movies and games by professionals who really understand the subject on such topics that 50 years ago would have been quite difficult to reach. Not to discount also the fact that in many cases they serve as examples on studies by universities or student thesis material. A very good and quite intruguing meta use of creativity these days.
I love seeing the increase of videos on youtube talking about the social and environmental impact - and possibilities! - of architecture and community planning.
I just discovered your channel and I'm truly impressed! The video quality is outstanding, your analysis is on point, and more importantly it sparks the imagination. Thank you so much!
I need a behind the scenes of her videos, on her workflow, on what methodology how she plans out her work how she searches for her references! It's crazy how educational and detailed her vids are!! It's a direct synthesis of hours and hours of research and documenting!!!
Oh man, I'm really digging your videos lately. I work in a standard 9-5, and honest, your voice has the best cadance and vocab for me to understand while listening in the background. Keep up the amazing work Dami :D
Yeah, there's something about how she speaks that is mesmerising
I recently stumbled on to your TH-cam channel and I actually like what you talk about like future building either on land or sea it's really well put together.
Another nightmare of a megacity concept is the Hive City from Warhammer 40,000. It's basically an immense structure that keeps building upwards, and new parts are always being built above older parts, with the lower parts being all crumbly and radioactive because all the waste is dumped there, so basically it houses horribly mutated creatures, whereas the rich and powerful live at the top.
I really like this, as a hobbyist comic creator the world the story takes place in is a character itself or a short hand/visual explanation of the society its representing. Batman 89 had such a beautiful Gotham, Cyberpunk has the neon over the crumbling/decaying structures. Look forward to seeing more of your videos.
Very interesting video! I started watching your videos a few weeks ago out of curiousity and I never really thought about architecture before. Since I started watching your videos I look at buildings in a whole new way... for the better! Thank you for expanding my horizons!
That is really great to hear. Thank you so much for watching!
9:20 in Hong Kong is kinda like that where they connect a lot of skyways and sky bridges around the city especially in central, connecting the subway to big mega shopping malls and connecting to offices and residential tower block right above the big malls too, usually also because of being so hot there and humid people
Ponte was rejuvenated a number of years back already. It's been redone and now has security and penthouses. There are weekly tours that run through it.
I live in Jhannesburg and I even have a tour organised for Ponte in September.
I hope you delve into more architecture in scifi like alien cities we see depicted in movies or TV show! Great episode!
That architecture is ugly as hell. An architecture with a style is better.
The sky bridges make a lot of sense in a city made of sky scrapers. The bridges don't just allow people to move, they also brace buildings against each other so the movement of the buildings gets transferred to its neighbors which then transfers it to their neighbors. The entire city acts as a single structure, spreading out the weight of the buildings and keeping them stable.
Yeah, I also feel like a bridged high-rise design would lower the wind forces through the area. Drag on the buildings would slow breeze/force on the higher floors. It might be even more effective if the buildings were offset more like a forest and not in a tidy grid full of wind channels.
Caves of Steel by Isaac Asimov talks all about a dystopian City and indeed is the source of the movie I Robot. Back in 1954 Isaac was talking about moving sidewalks and a fully enclosed underground city. The follow-on novel is the Naked Sun where he talks about an open Society.. Besides being an easy read Isaac Asimov's novels address many of the issues that you are talking about here.
@@theJmanStriketh To me the best way to lower wind forces would be to use a windmill setup so the wind energy is turned into electrical energy. Make it where the windmill only works if the wind is above a certain level and you can have calm breezes in a city without the wind tunnel effects.
I believe structurally connected buildings is impossible to create on a city level, not even on a block level unless the whole block is owned by a single entity.
1. This requires so much of cooperation amongst so many private stakeholders that managing individual projects will become a hell.
2. We are witnessing failed (due to high rent, ghost towns) and collapsed projects and disasters due to poor planning, negligence and corruption on a day to day basis. This is going to stay the way it is till the end of the humanity.
3. Failure of one structure will start a chain reaction because of inter-dependency for stability.
4. Terror attacks, wars will be much more devastating.
I think structurally isolated bridges and skyways may be a good idea just for the convenience of traveling within a neighbourhood. Just like normal roads but at higher levels, owned and maintained by the city/state. Each building just have to keep some provision to attach to these at those levels.
this structure looked most feasible out of those.... soviet blocks already resemble a lot, without skybridges, and lack of daylight in lower floors is big issue, despite I personally want to live near ground floor to get easier access outdoors(I wouldnt call those minutes quality time of life moving from apartment door to main outdoor of building). Those bridges would also open new "real estate" space in upper floors of building, like new balconies/gardens etc for common use, things that are premium in city space like that.
What a brilliant idea for a video. Working with architects and not one myself this is so fascinating and scary at the same time. Thank you very much for this POV. 😊
It's great to see an architects perspective on this kind of thing. Just discovered your channel and really liking your content.
My wife and I were looking to buy an apartment in 2020 and we viewed one where you entered into the middle of a small square courtyard which the building surrounded; and around the entrance to each apartment was from open walkways around the courtyard - I told the realtor that it looks like a prison cellblock; she looked and said "Ohh you're right. It DOES!" LOL
I definitely suggest playing Cyberpunk 2077 and exploring its city. i feel like their take on future cities is far more realistic and grounded while still having insane mega buildings and scifi elements
That's because it's mostly a regular city with the occasional mega building sprinkled in. Also flying cars
wow! I love your channel ! I just found you. I am an architectural technologist that lost the love for the career due to toxic working conditions and for a while I thought I truly hated what I had chosen but you reminded me what and why I love architecture. thank you.
I've been on the Arch in St. Louis, MO and it swayed. Freaked me out. It took me a long time to see the art and science behind architecture. You're very passionate about it.
I lived in Discovery Bay, a 40 story high rise in Waikiki Beach, surrounded by other high rise apartment buildings. I believe it was the second densest population level in the country. I loved it. A short elevator ride and everything I wanted was a short walk away, except a grocery store. Theaters, gyms, eateries of all kinds, a massive mall, a zoo, the beach. Being so high there was nearly no street noise. Lower down the sound would echo from building to building. So, sort of like this video, but smaller. The only negative was in the wee hours of the morning the elevator wouldn't come until there were two requests. Many times I had to rush down the stairs to the first floor.
That sounds horrifying
@@-.-Monsterwas going to say the same. I’d hate it
Hey! I'd like to say I really enjoy your videos, i find it interesting to think the importance user-centric design!! keep these sorts of videos going!
I was a screening of Minority Report with Steven Spielberg and the other directing crew, was the best Q&A I've ever been to. The precrime arrests and the AI that sense crime is an insane concept that we may very well live through
If this technology was used to prevent crime through positive actions like “we predict you will commit a crime; here are the resources you need that will help you overcome the issues that would lead you to crime (mental and physical healthcare, financial support, etc.)”, but we know that’s never what happens. At least not in my country. We’d rather punish people for poverty and mental illness.
@@JeantheSecond Sadly, that's kinda already happening, just after the crime. Some judiciary systems, especially in the US, are more focused on locking up people for as long as possible and "being tough", rather than social rehabilitation. I recommend Jeff Rosen's Ted Talk on Crime.
Minority report reminds me of Venice where the beatiful facades and buldings are mostly build facing the water because gondolas could provide a direct method of transport directly from your house to most places in the cities
I just watched your Mars video, and now this. I’m really enjoying it! Keep it up!
You make really nice and informative videos with super perfect visualizations 😲 I have just watched 2 of your Videos ❤
I'd love to see an analysis of Star Trek's San Francisco architecture in Deep Space Nine season 3 episodes 11 and 12. It shows the main cast going to 2024 where they find the city segregated by class in some very odd ways. Basically, the city tried to hide the poor and disadvantaged away in a separate district, and I thought the way those episodes used architecture was very interesting.
I second this!
Ahhh sanctuary districts, the bane of Gabriel Bell.
as a scifi lover, this is one of the coolest videos I've seen in a while. Please make this a series since there's so many cool stories in movies, novels and manga.
My personal recommendation would be the : Blame! manga
Big fan of Blame! Just when you thought you knew how big the City was, you realsize it is much, much bigger. One thing I could never understand and was never explained.... Where is all the oxygen coming from? How can Killy and the other human survivors just walk around for years exploring the City, if Earth is the only planet with breathable air, how could this be enough to fill a space as big as Jupiters orbit? Just a nerdy observation.
She talks about Blame in this one th-cam.com/video/8go_xBWa_EA/w-d-xo.html
really good vid. Great job mixing actual design, historical context and fictional perspective. Keep em coming!
These videos are soooo good! Very glad i came across your channel !
I write more in fantasy but since my current work relies on a giant port city centered around a giant lighthouse on a mountain range, these discussions on how to build dense urban living spaces is really good food for thought about how to design a believable city.
I have no idea how I stumbled on this video, but I'm sure glad I watched it all the way through. I've always been fascinated with buildings and have enjoyed photographing them whenever I travel, but... I hadn't given very much thought to how architecture influences society and vice versa. So your video made some lightbulbs go on in my head, and I'm grateful for that. Props to you for your thoughtfully presented and well-written work!
This was fascinating! I’m looking forward to going through your channel!
Recently found out about this channel and just can't stop watching) I have degree in economics, but architecture always drawn my attention. Instantly subscribed)
The Sears/Willis Tower in Chicago is actually 9 separate skyscrapers fastened together, which makes it a very sturdy building. The architects claim that a situation like the 911 attack on the World Trade Center, probably wouldn't have made the Sears/Willis Tower collapse. (To me it will always be the Sears Tower).
The World Trade Center buildings, as far as I know, were the first skyscrapers in history to collapse as a result of fire.
@@danityvanityinsanity "Fire".
@@danityvanityinsanity Fire + high speed collision with large jet airplanes.
@@danityvanityinsanity oh yes, the great fire of 9/11. nothing else happened
@@HowardARoark there's some BS there, dunno about this DEW thingy
Wow, this was an incredibly well made video, from the visuals, transitions, sound, research, and commentary. It does a great job of weaving a discussion about architectural concepts, questions about how to organize a community/society, and real-world examples.
I love sci-fi/cyberpunk and I love architecture. These videos are awesome and you do a great job talking about these concepts. 💯✌️
This is a fascinating subject and I loved your take on it; these types of environments can go either way depending on how they are utilised (or not).
I live in a part of the world that already has very similar features to those in this video and there's a bit of a paradox around our concentrated urban living; there are many benefits such as that these huge structures provide many employment opportunities to keep them running, they are oftentimes the only affordable option, better public transport, and in a place where physical space is limited it means more room for open green spaces, parks, meet up spaces, creative/work spaces, malls, etc. and many opportunities to form connections.
However, the downside in my country is that people are isolated from one another because they work too long hours and therefore don't get to the most out of this environment, you have to work hard to maintain any sense of community or social belonging and everyone is always tired. We work long, we do not work smart..!
I remember hearing from a friend with an office in one of the upper floors of the Bank of Montreal building in downtown Toronto that hanging plants swayed pretty dramatically when it was windy. That whole idea freaked me the heck out. I had not thought about how the separate of functions really does result in unsafe spaces/times.
Not to mention earthquake-proofing. Japan seems to have the right idea though - it's in the most seismologically-active region in the world - some of the amateur earthquake footage (I think it was in 2012?) is terrifying. The buildings themselves don't bat an eyelid, but the furniture _within_ the buildings just gets thrashed about like no tomorrow. Also it's a very coastal country, and earthquake+coastline=tsunami.
@@DodgyDaveGTX I recall that tsunami in Japan from 2011 and, while the footage is terrifying, what impressed me is that Japan had a widespread alarm system to alert folks that a tsunami is coming. While there was panic and a horrifyingly high number of deaths, people also heard it and knew *immediately* what was happening. Here in the States a tsunami would never have as quick response, because we don't have the infrastructure on our coasts. I don't even know if we have sensors to detect a tsunami before it arrives?
@@coal.sparks I know personally that many of the coastal communities in Alaska have tsunami alarms, drills, and evacuation routes to get to higher ground. I assume that Hawaii and places on the west coast do as well. Despite those, most other coastal communities in the US are decently safe from a tsunami, as they aren't close to or opposite highly earthquake-prone areas.
What a concept!! You & your team have given a new dimension to present hard to grasp concepts in a short, precise & in concise way so a lay person could understand it easily.
& Also your unique way of analysis certainly help me & akin movie-buffs to view & analyse cinema through a different set of lenses!
Ty🙏🏽🙏🏽
Wow, what a solid breakdown of all these considerations. Truly, you all make some of the best quality content on here. I'm curious to see what happens with legislative regulation because there are so many ways this issue could go "Black Mirror."
As a game designer and story writer this channel is a godsend!
I love it when people misunderstand that Judge Dredd is a satire and not a user manual.
Tell that to Hillary Clinton.
So was Idiocracy, but that became reality.
@@rnt45t1 WTF does Clinton have to do with this??
@@antred11 The Clinton's and the Democrats want to enslave the population in a socialist totalitarian hell hole.
I’m pretty sure she used the movie as an example because it had an interesting concept with regard to its architecture, not because she thinks it’s a realistic representation of the future.
I'm an Architectural Technician in NZ and happened to stumble across your video. Wow! Such great content, even your voice and how you explain & express the content is clear and calming. Keep up the good work, looking forward to watching your other videos. Totally subscribing to this channel.
Im a kiwi too. What do you think of architecture in mew zealand? I feel like its too much function over form and a lot of brutalism in the designs?
it's called acquired accent
Your Kowloon video was done very well, and i would say it's the best video on the topic. You've got my attention and my subscription now, keep making cool informative content ❤
Thank you have a great video. I do not work in the area, but I’ll wholeheartedly say I am enthusiastic about architecture. I lived in Berlin for 8 years and had a friend living in Unité d’Habitation of Berlin. The apartment design is incredible! So many interesting and innovative ideas within the interior design, it was a lovely surprise. I’m glad I was able to truly visit the building, it has definitely stayed with me.
Secondly, many old Soviet city’s have underground walk aways. Kiev (sadly, I’m sure many are devastated), Sofia (Bulgaria) and many larger Russian cities have massive areas underground, linking the subway systems/lines. It is very common in colder cities to use the underground areas, and it is useful/ absolutely necessary in winter. The underground areas normally houses shops, restaurants, supermarkets, public bathrooms etc. I have also seen similar concepts in Berlin and Shanghai. I have also been into apartment complexes in Beijing that are 3-4 stories underground (a friend rented a room 3 stories down for music rehearsal/band practice). As you may expect, the very small rooms or apartments 3-4 stories down are dark, dank, have poor ventilation, but they’re cheap. Regarding the price, many of the apartments or rooms that far down only had access to common/communal bathrooms and water.
Are these underground budget habitations signs of the times?? I’m sad to consider it. I’m fairly certain that I will be gone by the time something like this truly takes over. Good luck to all the young architects/artists/designers/builders/forward thinkers etc; you have a hell of a job a head of you.
Just found your channel and it's really interesting. Most of the time I take for granted the backdrop of the cities in these movies so I really liked the connection you made to real world architecture. Fascinating. Thank you!
I like the idea of the skyways, as well as underground tunnels. I went to a university in Halifax, Nova Scotia that has about half the buildings on the main campus being connected by underground hallways, which were fantastic in winter or when it was raining. I wished it could have connected all of them, but the newer buildings don't have that connection to the old ones. I believe other campuses have connected buildings as well. But it is very limited in terms of what other things are connected to. Like there's a convention centre attached to a hotel, bank, and a couple restaurants, the old trade centre is attached underground to a mall and sports stadium (great for getting food at the mall while at an event), and there's an apartment building that's connected to another large building with offices and restaurants in it. I'd love to see more covered areas as accessibility is a great need, and with snow, ice, and puddles, it can be hard for people with mobility challenges to get around safely.
In response to the Skyway part of the video. You may take reference to Hong Kong’s model for Tseung Kwan O district or Tseun Wan district where they solved the security issue by having commercial activities aka shopping malls/arcades and subway stations and residential towers on top connected the “skyways”. so these skyways essentially are public accessible 24/7, but where they connect the residential towers, each entrance has their own secured access via card or guard etc. But of course this works because Hong Kong summers are hot and these “skyways” provide an air-conditioned environment and weather protection all year round. But it does work if it’s properly planned and executed collaboratively between Government and Private Developers.
So, this is the second video of your I have viewed. I am happy that I found you channel. thank you DamiLee.
Chandigarh in India was designed by Le Corbusier, what you mentioned really is very well reflected here, with most of the sections of the city separated from each other. Though the separation is mostly within small sectors in pockets, other than the industrial area.
You should look at the planet city in the series Foundation. It's described as a city that is designed in layers with a layer on the surface of the planets and multiple layers that go deeper into the planets using artificial skies (basically big screens) in the layers that are underground.
Sounds like Asimov, in hundreds of years, yeah it's possible. But with space elevators possible right now (14 billion dollars) it makes little sense why you would build, having to remove material and deal with the transportation costs of gravity, when you could build in space for much cheaper. Yeah, space megastructures are decades away, but that's it, decades.
@@pneumantic6297 yes, he's talking about Trantor no doubt.
''Foundation'' is not a series, it is a literary saga written by Isaac Asimov. Fun fact: its in the same universe as ''I, Robot'' but thousands of years in the future, where Robots and AI have been banned for a long time.
@@jwenting that's the name yeah! forgot what it was, thanks
@@elian958 Cool! didn't know they were in the same universe, haven't read the books just watched the TV show so didn't want to comment on them
I love the philosophy in this video. Keep up the good work! Love your channel.
Lol. I see you've been looking at Zalem/Tipharies from Battle Angel Alita (GUNNM), or similarly titled live action Hollywood movie.
Great channel and I love how you tackle city planning & architecture topics. Post modernism art meets Sci Fi mixed with architecture... PERFECTION
Really enjoyed this video (and this channel in general) as Dami does a fantastic job connecting and relating real-world issues in architecture and urban planning with how such issues are addressed in movies. Just goes to show how much thought can go into planning a movie’s setting or universe, when most of the audience will treat those elements as mere background material.
I really enjoy learning about the concepts and pillars of the architectural world. Thanks for going out of your way to include the nerdier things like names of design movements, influential people from the field, and how physics affects the concepts you discuss. Absolutely engaging stuff.
Living and working in Minneapolis was great when I was in college. Shopping downtown was fun during the winter because of the skyways. It's true that downtown is changing to suit a more "desirable" clientele. Its not as friendly as it used to be.
im planning to go to school for architecture and urban planning because of the issues I see. AAA I FEEL SO HAPPY I FOUND THIS CHANNEL
This is fantastic. Just dicovering your channel and I'm in love with it. I live in a city designed by Le Corbusier' standards. Built by Lucio Costa and designed by the architect Oscar Niemeyer, Brasilia in Brazil embodies all of the sectional concepts and the lack of liveliness you mentioned. Thank you for your work.
I honestly just discovered this channel, but I am so in love already, this highly analytical and on point pov is like fn amazing