The way he was told to shuffle was basically what MTG players called mana weaving. Separate the resources and the rest of the deck and shuffle in a way so you get 2 spells 1 land. Curtis also spitting facts about pro's being all sweaty over registration and it being an org issue. If TPCI didnt live in their own bubble and saw issues that happened with Hasbro and the constant issues with Konami regarding the price barrier of entry to those games they would have foreseen the huge growth of the game.
It is crazy how much of a disconnect there seems to be between the community and TPCI. I feel like a lot of what we ask for is very reasonable, but for whatever reason they just don't implement most of it. - Ciaran
I’m only a few minutes in so maybe you all touch on this more in depth, but it’s interesting to me when people say formats are figured out in a few weeks with modern information when a) people have been saying that for over 10 years, and b) it’s consistently wrong So many old formats that see continued play see continued experimentation. Even this upcoming format was expected to have Dragapult dominate, but now Raging Bolt-Ogerpon is debatably the best deck due to its high consistency Goes to show we don’t always know as much as we think we do Edit: Ok he does touch on it again a few more times explaining he is conflicted on the idea. That’s fair.
It is definitely something that evolves, but formats are more "solved" from the get go. Like imagine how different the ICs would be without online tournaments or Japan. It feels like innovation is more-so in how lists are built and when to pull out a deck. In the past people would show up with 10-15 cards different within the same archetype. I agree that there is still tons of innovation, especially with players like Tord. We see innovation on archetypes all the time, but it is rare we see a super unique build like Mewtwo Vunion see success at the highest level! - Ciaran
@@ShiftGearPodcast I guess I just don’t value format diversity that is driven by low public information. If multiple decks can consistently top tournaments off the merits of being legitimately good decks then cool. That’s a highly balanced format. But if each tournament is won by a a different deck because it’s still early internet and information flows at a snail’s pace then the question is raised if those decks are really that good or if it’s more luck. It’s not necessarily a balanced format, more an obscure one. Both of those scenarios can appear very similar but are driven by completely different factors. And side note: of course there will always be luck in a card game. I’m saying more information helps us see which players and decks are really better, and which had a hot streak at one or two events. You say it yourself, refinement happens at all levels. The reason we call it Lost Box is because there are so many tech choices held together by the lost zone engine and decks are rarely 100% the same.
Great episode. I didn't play back then, but have built old worlds decks to play for fun and it's really interesting to hear how a great player was approaching those formats.
The Lyon King 🦁
Curtis was a great mentor for us as kids
great episode, I was always wondering how Curtis Lyon was after looking back at past wrlds formats. its great to put a face to a name
Glad you enjoyed! Curtis is an OG, glad to introduce him to the new generation! - Ciaran
The way he was told to shuffle was basically what MTG players called mana weaving. Separate the resources and the rest of the deck and shuffle in a way so you get 2 spells 1 land. Curtis also spitting facts about pro's being all sweaty over registration and it being an org issue. If TPCI didnt live in their own bubble and saw issues that happened with Hasbro and the constant issues with Konami regarding the price barrier of entry to those games they would have foreseen the huge growth of the game.
It is crazy how much of a disconnect there seems to be between the community and TPCI. I feel like a lot of what we ask for is very reasonable, but for whatever reason they just don't implement most of it. - Ciaran
I’m only a few minutes in so maybe you all touch on this more in depth, but it’s interesting to me when people say formats are figured out in a few weeks with modern information when a) people have been saying that for over 10 years, and b) it’s consistently wrong
So many old formats that see continued play see continued experimentation. Even this upcoming format was expected to have Dragapult dominate, but now Raging Bolt-Ogerpon is debatably the best deck due to its high consistency
Goes to show we don’t always know as much as we think we do
Edit: Ok he does touch on it again a few more times explaining he is conflicted on the idea. That’s fair.
It is definitely something that evolves, but formats are more "solved" from the get go. Like imagine how different the ICs would be without online tournaments or Japan. It feels like innovation is more-so in how lists are built and when to pull out a deck. In the past people would show up with 10-15 cards different within the same archetype. I agree that there is still tons of innovation, especially with players like Tord. We see innovation on archetypes all the time, but it is rare we see a super unique build like Mewtwo Vunion see success at the highest level! - Ciaran
@@ShiftGearPodcast I guess I just don’t value format diversity that is driven by low public information.
If multiple decks can consistently top tournaments off the merits of being legitimately good decks then cool. That’s a highly balanced format.
But if each tournament is won by a a different deck because it’s still early internet and information flows at a snail’s pace then the question is raised if those decks are really that good or if it’s more luck. It’s not necessarily a balanced format, more an obscure one.
Both of those scenarios can appear very similar but are driven by completely different factors.
And side note: of course there will always be luck in a card game. I’m saying more information helps us see which players and decks are really better, and which had a hot streak at one or two events. You say it yourself, refinement happens at all levels. The reason we call it Lost Box is because there are so many tech choices held together by the lost zone engine and decks are rarely 100% the same.
Great episode. I didn't play back then, but have built old worlds decks to play for fun and it's really interesting to hear how a great player was approaching those formats.
It's always awesome to get a peek into how things used to operate. Which old worlds decks have you built?? - Ciaran
10/10 pod. Curtis made my short stint in TCG the most enjoyable time 🙏🏼
Another great episode, all hail the Lyon King 🦁
one of the GOATs from that generation of pokemon TCG
Hearing some of these names are making me visibly age
It brings back so many good memories hearing the names too. Glad a lot of the og players have stuck around or came back! - Ciaran
Curtis’ voice is so nice, if he was a salesman I’d buy what he’s selling
Him and Aneil have voices made for radio! - Ciaran
This one was FIRE
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