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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ม.ค. 2018
- This video is for people that are trying to decide if they should buy a "16:10" aspect ratio monitor.
00:38 - PART 1 - Resolution Comparison
Google Chrome, TH-cam, Netflix, Microsoft Word, Excel, Adobe Premiere Pro and Sony Vegas.
03:00 - PART 2 - Gaming Benchmarks
Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite.
04:28 - PART 3 - DELL U2414H (1920 x 1080) vs DELL U2415 (1920 x 1200)
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Alternate Video Titles
16:9 or 16:10, 16:9 and 16:10 - monitor comparison
16:10 - how much bigger is it really?
Best Dual Monitor Setup
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Nice video tips. Wondering if you could help.. I have choice between a dell 2421 16:10 (1920x1200) or Dell 2719 16:9, (2550x1440) and not sure if the 27 inch would give me the same vertical depth if I run the resolution at 1920x1200 ?
Hmm, good question. Maybe someone else can answer that here in the comments.
if i were you id rather choose 2550x1440 (16:9). its hard to explain but i have both monitor, and 16:9 is better
Maybe a bit too late, but the QHD is more resolution, considerable more! You'll be running QHD resolution and not 1920x1200
I have had this monitor for a long time now and I absolutely love it! I could never go back!
I know that it took some time to produce this video, time well spent. I found your presentation to be broad and informative; greatly appreciated. Thank you, Sir.
That's very kind of you to say. I was looking for this information myself, so I knew it was needed. Thanks John.
Thanks for including the Excel comparison. Really helps!
Your welcome ✌🏾
Damn, I love the in depth explanation. You mentioning TH-cam, Microsoft Word, Excel and etc was exactly what I needed to know, without knowing I needed to know..
It was what I wanted to know before I made the video. I learn so much on TH-cam, it's nice to give back.
I prefer 16:10, been using a pair of them for years for everything.
Perfect explanation. Thank You.
Thanks for the awesome info man!
I miss my 16:10, rip.. 16:9 is so much smaller vertically
appreciate yr quick response , thnx!
Super useful, thank you.
thank you for an awesome review!
Aww wow! Your very welcome.
Great analysis. Thank you for great insights and practical use comparison.
Thanks for subscribing ✌🏾
Great review!
As a person that always has been used 16:9 , the 16:10 aspect ratio of my MacBook looks great and have some good advantages !!!
Nice comparison, thank you. I would have liked seeing a photo editing program as well though
Bonus tip (bonus tip) sound effect haha One love and abraços bro bro.
Great comparison which takes into account a lot of different uses. I also edit raws, edit video, play games, consume media and since I'm about to change my monitor I'm still torn on getting a 16:9 and 16:10. I actually love 16:10 to work but in a lot of movies and expecially games 1920x1200 is still not supported(which is unbeliavable considering we're in 2018 and even 90's games often supported every sort of resolution). Gaming with black bars ain't the best
If you use AMD GPU Scaling (I think Nvidia may have a counterpart.) as long as you're not playing Dark Souls, all black bars should be removed.
19200x1200?????????? dude thats as wide as my street
1920x1200 is bliss my dude
Lol clearly a typo, fixed
this video help me a lot, thanks
Your welcome.
Perfect video, thank you
Your welcome 😊
I know this vid is old but its been super helpful for my monitor shopping. Looking at one of the Super Ultrawide 43" 32:10 monitors but wasn't sure about the :10 ratio. Thanks for explaining!
Glad to help 🙂
Nice video. I'm curious about your computer speakers. I have double U2415 side by side and looking for a pair of small HIFI speakers below them.
Excellent video. All examples are very clear and meaningful. Was wondering if you had to choose between 23.8" 16:9 monitor vs 22.5" 16:10 which one would be better for Word/Excel and browsing . Height is equal but the former is 4.4cm wider. Should you cut some width ?
Personally, I would still go with the 16:10. You will see more of the pages. But the text will be slightly smaller.
I managed to grab a Dell U2415, It's only 1920 x 1200 but the quality really is as good as they say., this monitor is cherished as I know how rare it's becoming.
As for 16:9 well consider this...
App makers and windows itself never fully exploited the benefits of a wide screen. All menus and controls should always be on the left / right hand side, never at the top. I know it's possible because Adobe have done it in Lightroom.. Even web browsers got it wrong by putting tabs at the top of an already wide screen, why not on the left or right?
Then look at websites, even after years of 16:9, web developers still don't fully exploit the format, often sites have huge blank bars either side of them.
Very well explained...
Thank you my friend
What a nice fella, take my like 👍🏼
Haha thanks 😁
Thank you sir. It must have taken a fair bit of time to produce this. Much appreciated.
Thanks Shain. Yeah, it took a week.
thanks a lot for the video, there is little information about using this resolution with Office. Regards!
Great video, I'm about to replace my Philips 19" 1366x768 res with this Dell 2415H - life changing :)
Most professional apps you mentioned are designed for Mac OS specially the Adobe apps as they’ve a special relation with and Macs which use a 16:10 so it will work best on that. When you look at the Ribbon UI in Ms office positioned horizontally you know it’s not meant for 16:9. I think it’s opposite for gaming. I like browsing and watching TH-cam on 16:10
Wonderful review. Your review made me purchase the 2415! I now have the same setup as you. Can you tell me the color settings you used on the 2414 to match the 2415? Cheers
Hi mate, I lowered the Red to 92. I think the rest is default. Green 100, blue 100, brightness 50, contrast 75. But your monitors might be slightly different to mind out of the box.
Thanks for well thought trough and made video.
If I could suggest a minor tweak, that In my mind could make it even better it would be that You included the "basic specs and attributes" (physical sizes", connections and menus..."material and finish"..."what ever You find worth pointing out") AND your thoughts/reflections on these "attributes/features".
Now I now that the "specs" can be found "anywhere" but it's still handy to have it "right here". AND more "importantly" I find it more interesting and relevant to hear what an actual user thinks about the "actual physical product in use" and it's "attributes/behaviours/performance", rather than trying to infer it from "spec sheets" or a multitude of different "partial reviews".
Just a suggestion, and again thanks for a great video.
Best regards
You make a good point my friend. Thanks for the constructive suggestion. I'll keep it in mind for my next review.
informative!
I prefer 16:10 because of its larger size and more suitable for my lots of usage like web browsing and working documents
Thanks mate
Eline saglik kardes 👍
Bisey deyil ✌🏾
It's frustrating that 16:10 monitors are becoming the way of the dodo :(
Ultimate video
Thanks man 😁
I feel as though 16:9 was one step too narrow, and I say that as someone with a 16:9 "gaming" 1440p monitor.
If I could go back and change my purchasing decision, I would have gotten the 16:10, and just accepted the black borders when watching videos. I barely ever watch videos in full screen anyway.
Interesting
Greatings Mustafa, please please do the same comparasion with 3:2 aspect ratio display, it would be great if you can do 16:9 vs 16:10 vs 3:2, thanks for the video, you explain things very well
Thanks Abid. I would love too, but I don't know of any 3:2 PC monitors.
@Pythonify That's not a monitor is it?
@@BoraMustafatry acer swift 3 (3:2)
I have dell u2415 and i want to buy a new one for dual screening that will help me on development..What dell should i buy? Is it a big prblem od different sizes between them?
Thanks for the comparison! After watching this video I've bought U2415. This monitor is really great, but I've got a problem - it hurts my eyes. I tried to use f.lux, adjust different monitor settings, but still can't find solution. I'm using it mostly for coding, so I'm reading/writing a lot of text. I really like this monitor and don't want to return it, hope to find the solution.
I want to ask: do you use scaling on your U2415 (maybe 125%)?
Sorry to hear that man... my eyes only hurt after hours of intense editing. I don't use scaling actually, I bought the thing for the extra screen room, but try scaling and let me know if it helps.
Sorry for late reply. Unfortunately, scaling didn't help me. I had to return U2415 back to the shop :( After that I've tried different models from other brands and in the end I've bought 27'' BenQ ew2770QZ. Finally my searches are over. It's a perfect monitor for my eyes.
Thanx to your video i am using for less than a year an HP E24i (16:10, 1920x1200) monitor. It has a super effective 24% matte coating and a contrast of 700:1 for work at night (Brightness=0%, Contrast=0-5%) and 1000:1 during daytime (Brightness= 0%, Contrast= 25-35%). There is no IPS glow - perfect black corner to corner. Colors are awesome in Standard mode without calibration.
I highly recommend it for anyone who wants to preserve their eye health.
I used to have terrible bright light/blue light/PWM/glare sensitivity and now t`s all gone. What worked for me was the use of VGA cable on Windows 7 OS.
This model U2415 was under consideration but I left it for its way too high price in my country and the coating.
I have the following questions:
1. I was wondering if you still use the U2415?
2. Do you still consider 96ppi enough for video and image editing?
I was thinking of buying an extra HP E24q (24 inch, 16:9, qHD) just for photo editing but not sure if the extra dpi is needed. Today all new FHD laptops of 15.6 inches have 140ppi pixel density. At the same time editing imags on 96ppi monitor shows plenty of detail for this "low" pixel density....
Smart phones have often more than 400ppi pixel density but all images on web sites and social media are scaled properly regardless the pixel density of the images published. The only time 96ppi is a disadvantage is maybe when you send an image saved at 96ppi to someone with a FHD laptop screen with 140ppi where the image will be much smaller.
Is this a sufficiant reason to go for a higher pixel density screen when I can easily upscale the image from 96ppi to 140ppi in Photoshop without much damage done on the image. Or should I just downsample the original high resolution image to 140 ppi as a file that needs to be printed on paper and send it over to the folks with 140ppi FHD laptop screens?
3. Does the coating of U2415 is actually 24% haze matte or is semi-matte. Every time someone reviews this monitor (or any other Dell matte monitor) quite visible reflectios pop up whenever a bright thing is in front of the screen, not necessarily a light bulb , even a human face, hand, piece of paper etc. Can you confirm this?
Wow this is the most detailed comment I've ever seen. I don't have time to do the research to answers your questions right now. I'll try to remember to come back to it.
Nice, thanks for tip with win + arrows
Lifesaver right :)
16:10 for the win, its the closest to GOLDEN RATIO (1,618033989) very pleasant, armonic, productive, everything. I am a proud owner of a U2415 and a HP ZR24w the latter is older and has wider borders but is still a great monitor. I hope they release some 3840x2400 monitor some day.
Thanks for sharing
Hell, even some 2560x1600!
Holy Moly that tip with the windows key and arrows just changed my life lol
Hahah glad to help.
Nice video
Hai Mustafa...
Very useful video.
Great comparison.
I have doubts...
1. can we watch videos and moves without black bars on top and bottom on 2415 monitor ?
2. does it suits for external devices ?
Thanks for the compliments 😊
1. Videos and movies would have black bars in fullscreen mode.
2. What kind of devices do you mean?
Thanks for you immediate reply Mustafa.
The external devices means...Keyboards,Monitors,modems,hdd etc.
TFT Central men told that, The U2414H is a better option if you want to use external devices, or just prefer smaller/non- existent borders for your movies, films and games and those are more of a focus for you than general office work.
Yes, that is correct...a 16:10 monitor is meant to make working easier.
If you are a casual user, get a monitor that is better value for money for you.
I am watching this video on an ASUS 16:10 monitor with the resolution of 1680 x 1050
I am watching this on a dell sp2208wfp with the same resolution
U should have more subscribers, Very Nice video
Thanks Gustavo ✌🏾
1280x800 -> 1440x900 -> 1680x1050 16:10 for life :D
😂
1440*900 ftw here
Yay! Me too1
1920x1200 is best!
Been rocking 1680x1050 for many many years, Love my monitor.
I've been using a 16-10 Dell for 10 years and love it. Whenever I have to use a friend's 16-9, it feels cramped/squeezed vertically. 16-10 gives you extra room for toolbars, menus and taskbar rather than having them eat into the screenspace that would be availble with 16-9.
16:9 isn't the problem, it's the resolution of the monitor.
A 1920x1080 is worse than 1900x1200 however that one is worse than a 16:9 of a Quad monitor. (2550x1400), but still a 16:9. Heck a 4K (3860x2060) is 16:9 and still being a 16:9 is worlds better than 1900x1200 (16:10).
I tend to agree
I don't like 16:9 either. I was used to 4:3 and CAD. Then when the 1920s came out CAD was always 1200 /16:10. However, with people working remotely off laptops and desktops with the standard 16:9 and using TVs as monitors, it makes a 16:10 difficult to read on these devices remotely.
Can i set 16:9 in 16:10 monitor on the 4:3 resolution 1400x1050 with Black Barks on the tom and Botton? I want to scale this 4:3 to 16:9 on 16:10 monitor?
I tried a lots of resolutions and aspect ratios for CS:GO. And I considered as best to have a 16:10 monitor and use 1280x960. It still looks good and you have an advantage of stretch.
really good for gaming ?
I play on it often with no problems
@@BoraMustafa thank u so mush اخي
If I'm a Fan Boy of anything, that's for sure a 16:10 (8:5) Aspect-ratio monitors.
Any Users of Legendary Dell U2412M Here? 8~)
my main PC 16x10 2560x1600 I love it, i also have on my 2nd pc 1920x1200 so all 16.10
What 1600p monitor are you using there does not seem to many options to pick from, dose your monitor have a 8ms response time and is it worth it over a 4k monitor?
nice
Although this is a decision video, I'm leaving a comment although I already have one. 16:10. Except mine isn't Dell, but Philips, white model, with a lightframe around it that can light in blue. 1680×1050. It's interesting cause even my tablet's aspect ratio is exactly 16:10 [at 8 inches]. I view pictures often, use music software [sweet, sweet bonus space from the resolution], even watch from time to time 4:3 videos, so they show even bigger for me. & all games are viewed just fine with no black bars for me. When I first got the monitor, I was confused if it was 16:10, 16:9, or 16:8, because I saw that small difference. & I'm really loving the way 16:10 works it all. I pretty much recommend it for all kinds of things, it's nice. Maybe hopefully in the future I could get even the 1920×1200 size as well. I think 16:10 is perfect. Even the colors are all just correct. Perfect. Nothing messed up.
16/10. Get it? 16 out of 10.
Hahaha nice ending. Thanks for your thoughts.
Of course. No problemo whatsoever.
I will never buy 16:9. I find 16:10 so much better to work on. I have no idea why there are so few 16:10 models made :( It should be the standard. But when it comes to gaming 16:10 most of the time has a problem because games aren't designed for that resolution (they are designed for 16:9). What I mean by that is a lot of games I played would cut the sides to fit the view vertically (or stretch vertically if it doesn't cut the sides) which is a big problem when you can see less on the sides. It's sad cause you would think instead of seeing less on sides you would just see more on top and bottom but that isn't the case :( If you want full horizontal view you would have to play in 16:9 with black bars on the top and bottom of your screen which can fell bad.
yeah i feel it to
I did not quite understand.
At a resolution of 1200p the text will look better, smoother? Compared to 1080p?
I can not decide what to choose DELL U2419H or U2415.
Or Dell P2319H - monitor
23 inches with 1080p.
I tried U2419 inch monitor with 1080p and monitor P2319H. But it was at different times. And it seemed to me that P2319H displayed text better.
I need a monitor for working with text. WEB programming - PhpStorm, SublimeText, MicrosoftOffice.
Please help me.
I can not compare them, at the same time :(
The text will look the same. But you'll see more of it on the screen.
you know that the 16:10 portions have black bars on all sides when watching on a 16:10 monitor, also I have 2 16:10 Dell 2208WFP 1680x1050 resolution so I should get better performance.
thank you.
😊🙏
All's I know is is that u can make a 16:10 video and use inshot video editor, change the canvas to 16:9 and u can move the video to 1 side and have a bar the other side in any colour or colour combination u like and have ur socials and that there which is cool
16:10 is best
is u2415 good for reading text pages, text on web pages , pdf ,word docs etc from a distance of about 14 -16 inches? i read in some reviews that text could be blurred /jagged because of 16:10 and 1920X1200 ....thanx for your opinion.
Not for me
@@BoraMustafa I bought the Dell 16:10 and find no problem with text ! thnx for your review and response.
I'm glad you're happy mate
I just wish there were feature-packed gaming options in 16:10. Like the equivalent to my IPS 1440p 120hz 10-bit HDR400 monitor. Give me THAT (or an OLED is even better) in 16:10 and I'll buy TWO 28"-30" models for an over-under dual screen. Or perhaps better yet, a 50" 32:10 version. Heck, if they brought back 5:4 monitors, you could run them in portrait mode and have a 4:2 lower portion for games and a 4:3 upper portion for managing chat and your stream. It would be a 38" diagonal screen that's 30" tall and 24" wide, but still... If you want everything on ONE screen AND a bit of the "ultrawide" experience...
I have the 2415 Ultrasharp is there a difference? I love my monitor as you do.
No difference 👍🏾
Is the left one U2415 and right one U2414H in your video?
The left one looks like a 27 inch monitor
Yeah. Left one is the U2415 👍🏽
@@BoraMustafa And the right one is U2414H? I just want to make sure 🤔
Yeah. Exactly.
Planning to buy 2415 and use as my dual screen on my del 7577 laptop, any feedback for this? Thanks.
Yeah, most laptops can't output higher than their native resolution. Might not be able to go to 16:10. Check what your laptop can do.
Bora Mustafa thanks for your advice sir, how can I check that planning to buy the 2415.
I just looked up your laptop. If it has the GTX 1060 video card it should work fine. Right click on your desktop. Go to display properties. Then check that 1920*1200 is on the list.
Bora Mustafa thank you so much for the help sir.
Which is best for watching movies
This was really helpful video. I wound up going with a 16:10 monitor (Dell U2415), and now I'm wondering if it might actually be too tall. Maybe it's just because I go from a 16:9 at work and then come home to the larger one. Anyone else have a similar reaction to a 16:10?
A had a reversed cituation. So ended up getting 16:10.
@@AliShuktu I’ve come to love the larger 16:10 screen. I don’t think I can ever go back.
@@dsholt
Yeah me too.
After trying 16:10 at work(i worked as graphics designer) i decided to get similar for home.
great
what is the name of the monitor holder. very cool. you can hang two monitors.
may be it is ModernSolid EA-215?
It's the VisionMount VM-GM224U
Also sold under other names
Thanks!
I kind of miss miss the experience in portrait mode :S.
simple thing is
you only want to use it for gaming only ? go for 16:9, the best and normal looking
you wanna do your job and see more ? go for 16 : 10, i personally use 16 : 10 monitor for programming, which is can see around 8-10 more lines of code compared to 16 : 9
What mount you are using for supporting the two monitor?
VisionMount VM-GM224U Gas Spring Desk Clamp Aluminium Dual LCD Monitor Arm with USB Port support
The same product is called something else in other countries. You'll have to research it.
hey man can you give a link to the wallpaper on the left monitor at 0:48?
www.wallpaperflare.com/female-anime-character-wallpaper-ilya-kuvshinov-artwork-red-background-wallpaper-256788
Hi mustafa can you send me the red wallpaper in 0:48 ?
What about movies that were filmed in 16:9? how they will look like? thanks:)
The same as the Netflix show shown in the video. It was 169.
Why not get a ultra wide?
can 16:10 turn back to 16:9?(window)
Use same wallpapers while comparison that would be great
The only thing 16:9 is good for is watching movies/shows and playing games. For anything productive or even web browsing, it's always better to have more vertical real estate rather than width. So given a choice, I would pick my 16:10 any day.
How would you say 21:9 compares with 16:10 for productivity?
I used a 21:9 while working freelance at an office for a few weeks. It depends what exactly you're doing but I found the screen a bit large. It was like sitting front row at the movies. I think I'd eventually get used to it and start using multiple windows on the same screen... I was still finding the second monitor they had useful... So the setup in the video still works the best for me. I understand that buying a monitor arm or finding space for two monitors poses challenges though.
What's the pixel density? Also do they hurt your eye?
A quick google search shows
U2414h = 92ppi
U2415 = 94ppi
My eyes only dry out after long video editing sessions due to not blinking enough.
So I take breaks and eye drops.
Pretty sure that would happen with any monitor.
Awesome thank you. I just got the SE2717hr. But I am not liking the pixel density. I am coming from a mac system. So I debating on sending it back and getting the u2415. But based on a google search there is an approximate 10 pixel density difference. I am not sure how much more that will improve.
Hmm, sorry man. Not sure 10 more pixels per inch sounds like a fair bit though. Have you tried playing with the brightnesa etc of your current monitor?
16:10 is very nice. It's a shame they're not more common
There are still a few around
Which one has better colour calibration out of the box?
I didn't test it. But as I mention in the video I had to adjust the 2414h to match the 2415.
Betwen U2415 and U2417, which one you think better?
Depends on which aspect ratio you want.
Im in the same boat and neither are available for me to view in a store. did you make a decision?
So iphones are 10:16 on IG and I think I have to start editing in that resoltion so my text stays centered
Interesting. I didn't know that
How about width? Is the 16:9 physically wider than the 16:10?
U2414h 21.2 inches wide
U2415 20.95 inches wide
That Supergirl Wallpaper is literally my desktop. What are the odds?
Hahaha small world
buy 16:9 because you see videos in full screen
u2419h vs u2415 which one is good please tell me...???
I don't know dude. Sorry. @Dell send me samples to review please.
would 4:3 be revive agian ? lol.
Man upload these nice wallpapers please, could you?
Dude, I have thousands of them. It would take ages to find those particular ones. Head on over to boards.4chan.org/wg/catalog to collect your own.
@@BoraMustafa Thanks
naber ab
Selam
Unfortunately no is making 16:10 monitors anymore in large sizes, 32"+.
Will a console still be able to display 16.10 with this screen?
My research shows that the image will be stretched taller to fit.
Thanks bro!
Better to use 16:9.
So they are the same width but the 16x10 is taller?
Ya
@@BoraMustafa I see thanks. Everywhere I looked said it was taller but less wide
I just measured it the 1610 is 6mm less wide actually.
The Steam Deck is 16:10