Really appreciate the perspective here. Thanks for sharing. I think it does something important in showing some things board games are doing relative to video games, and the reasons that may be the case. It also features a game that's way, way out on the complexity scale compared to a lot of entry level games. That's a nice touch because it illustrates perfectly how far a board game can go in terms of asymmetrical strategy, historical context, and just plain multi-level depth of play. I haven't played this one but I'd love too if I can ever form the bubble in space-time to accomplish it. However, I can totally see why some folks would want to avoid this or (even if they'd love to play it), would never be able to get it to the table. If you're willing (and actually able) to put in the time, and can manage to hook up with people that can see the beauty in this kind of thing, board games like this can offer some truly epic experiences. But yeah, this game is definitely not for everybody.
Trynant Tabletops lol. Yeah... that's deep.. I'm just getting into COIN games and heavy Euro games. I seriously don't know where these gems have been all my life.. Happy gaming...
Good channel. Try this on a "smaller" scale (i.e. 2-players first, it's "easier" to find players). Play Labyrinth, a COIN game, heck even ROOT. There are some good examples of asymmetry in game play before arriving at a game like Virgin Queen.
Late reply I know, but I guess I agree. This video is nearing a decade old iirc (it was originally on my videogaming channel), but since then I've done a full play of VQ with six people (it went well!), COINs abounds (I have about every one of them that's published except a couple of expansions), Root multiple times, heck, I'd say the most asymmetric game I've played had to be Vast of all things. I don't like Labyrinth personally over Twilight Struggle for reasons not worth going into in a reply, but it's a good example of asymmetry. Anyways, I think about everything you've mentioned except Labyrinth was out AFTER VQ so here we are :/ But yeah VQ is in the deep end of the pool, though. Harder to get to the table than ever with the great options that are out these days.
There are *plenty* of board games with this kind of asymmetry. Both 2-player and multi-player. And I don't believe Virgin Queen is an especially complex game. My World in Flames rule book is 86 pages. These games are not for people who need convincing to be taught the games. It's for players who already them selves in advance have accepted that they are interested in playing this game and willing to do the work to learn it.
Really appreciate the perspective here. Thanks for sharing. I think it does something important in showing some things board games are doing relative to video games, and the reasons that may be the case.
It also features a game that's way, way out on the complexity scale compared to a lot of entry level games. That's a nice touch because it illustrates perfectly how far a board game can go in terms of asymmetrical strategy, historical context, and just plain multi-level depth of play. I haven't played this one but I'd love too if I can ever form the bubble in space-time to accomplish it. However, I can totally see why some folks would want to avoid this or (even if they'd love to play it), would never be able to get it to the table.
If you're willing (and actually able) to put in the time, and can manage to hook up with people that can see the beauty in this kind of thing, board games like this can offer some truly epic experiences. But yeah, this game is definitely not for everybody.
come to the dark side....give in
I think my most recent playlist explains where I'm at right now th-cam.com/play/PLhjZx7CRHRrBUozm19Cx85s_sBsTUlbGt.html
How far down the rabbit hole are you now?
I did a solo play of Case Blue and Guderian's Blitzkrieg II on this channel recently. I'd say pretty darn far ;_;
Trynant Tabletops lol. Yeah... that's deep.. I'm just getting into COIN games and heavy Euro games. I seriously don't know where these gems have been all my life.. Happy gaming...
Good channel. Try this on a "smaller" scale (i.e. 2-players first, it's "easier" to find players). Play Labyrinth, a COIN game, heck even ROOT. There are some good examples of asymmetry in game play before arriving at a game like Virgin Queen.
Late reply I know, but I guess I agree. This video is nearing a decade old iirc (it was originally on my videogaming channel), but since then I've done a full play of VQ with six people (it went well!), COINs abounds (I have about every one of them that's published except a couple of expansions), Root multiple times, heck, I'd say the most asymmetric game I've played had to be Vast of all things. I don't like Labyrinth personally over Twilight Struggle for reasons not worth going into in a reply, but it's a good example of asymmetry. Anyways, I think about everything you've mentioned except Labyrinth was out AFTER VQ so here we are :/
But yeah VQ is in the deep end of the pool, though. Harder to get to the table than ever with the great options that are out these days.
@@trynanttabletops8625 I didn't realize how old the video was, but thanks for the reply nonetheless. Glad to hear all of your discoveries since then.
There are *plenty* of board games with this kind of asymmetry. Both 2-player and multi-player.
And I don't believe Virgin Queen is an especially complex game. My World in Flames rule book is 86 pages.
These games are not for people who need convincing to be taught the games. It's for players who already them selves in advance have accepted that they are interested in playing this game and willing to do the work to learn it.
Try Europa Universalis IV.