【HTTYD】→ The Deleted Scene That Could Have Saved the Light Fury's Character 「Fanmade Edit」
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 เม.ย. 2023
- While I loved THW and don't have any serious qualms with it... WHY DELETE THIS?! It's only 2 minutes longer than the original scene! C'mon guys, this would have made the Light Fury more endearing and loveable. This deleted scene probably could have lessened the fandom's backlash on this "plain girly girl" a lot of the fandom despises.
Anyway, I figured after doing the baby bird deleted scene this was a logical follow-up. I love the Light Fury regardless of this scene being cut, but imagine the lessened amount of toxicity there would have been. longing sigh
Though I edited the thumbnail, I own nothing, so please don't attack me YT.
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I wish I knew what happened to them in between the end of that scene and when Hiccup & Astrid found them in the Hidden World
I may or may not be debating writing a short story about that, actually. I'm trying to take up some fanfiction writing for HTTYD. Not sure if many would be interested.
@@TheEnvisFury I would be interested
I have dyslexia so I can't read as well, but I'd love if maybe you made a comic of it! So it's not fully just reading.@TheEnvisFury
I like that idea!
I'm fully on board for a comic or a short story of this.
I LOVE how when she sniffs at his man-made tail fin, she looks confused, judgy, and disapproves of it. Then she flies away and has her head tilted in a "I'm better than you" pompous, elegant way.
When Toothless still acts in his usual dumb cheery playful self, THATS how he wins her over! And she actually likes it! You can see how despite him being "weird" she's charmed by him!
She acts like a noble rich person's cat while he's a goofy stray that got a loving home.
I LOVE how this storyboard/animatic gave her more personality. She tries to act all high and sophisticated but that breaks down when he encourages her more goofy side! Then they play together! It's so insanely cute and it makes their relationship feel so much more genuine and real, rather than the plot forcing them to like each other "just cuz".
It's so sad that the movie really went "This character is fierce, brave, smart, playful, a bit goofy, curious, gentle, sympathetic... and this one is a girl!"
What's wrong with it being a girl?
Nothing, but its a problem when your a main character and that's all there is too you.
@@spider-soniczilla2989 wdym?
@@EmilijaDunja So I'll explain it like this, your character can be a girl or they can just be a girl.
A well written women like any character has character traits you can point out and remember, a "girl" character has 1 trait, they are woman and that is the character.
The "girl" character is often used for love interests to the more fleshed out male lead in movies.
@@EmilijaDunja Nothing, but it's bad when that's all there is. What kind of girl is she? If she can be replaced by a cardboard cutout that's not a good character. And what she did was just sit there and look pretty for most of the movie, an object for Toothless to lust over (the only moment of her own agency was her deciding to save Hiccup, but that's only at the very end). That's the sadness of this deleted scene that shows more of Light Fury's personality - she's playful, talented flier, a bit curious, forgiving and not taking herself too seriously (not being angry at all after being accidentally slapped by Toothless wing), just in general shows more bonding between the two when she reciprocates his advances in all these subtle ways (not pushing him away anymore).
I have decided to gaslight myself into thinking this was actually in the movie and the lightfury isn't just a glittery mass with a single trait called FEMALE
Oh, please don't hate on the LF here. >.> I personally love her design.
That's harsh :(
Don't get me wrong, I love her too! It's just the fact she has barely any personality except for the fact she's toothlesses mate and doesn't like humans @@TheEnvisFury
I completely agree with you. That’s exactly why I made my own AU with a complete redesign of the Light Fury.
Yeah, I looked at the art book and they literally said they were trying to make her look female and non reptilian.
The director explicitly said he wanted Toothless to be a dog, and for LF to just be "sexy female". You can thank him for ruining the movie.
Seems about right
Funny, because toothless was animated after cat-like poses and behavior
Well.... man you people and everyone who don't like the lighfury are harsh like, try making ur own movie see how hard it is, some respect for these pour creaitos. HAVE RESPECT
@@user-bk2gx8lo9q the light fury has a sexy model.
@@user-bk2gx8lo9q I like the movie, but I also understood their review. If you want a good income you gotta produce a good movie that people have high expectations for.
Yeah the entire movie it felt like the Light Fury was "just tolerating" Toothless. A thorough scene like this would've added some dimension to their relationship
Damn right.
She made Toothless look like a beg
I feel like the conversation regarding this scene went a little like:
“And she has personality, they interact with each other in a way that helps to understand the light fury’s character more, she seems stuck up, but she’s really playful and goofy on the inside.”
“Nah let’s make her only personality trait ‘FEMALE’ 😍”
For someone who thought how Toothless just dropped hiccup so quickly. This small but cute scene would have really shown the chemistry that the two had and it would have gave the girl more character. They really had such a missed opportunity for the last movie.
It would be better if they cut out all those stupid and uncomfortable jokes and moments about Hiccup's friend's crush into Hiccup's mom and left this scene
Fun fact: in the original books, Snotlout is Hiccup's cousin. Which makes it really fuckin weird that he likes Valka
THEYRE SO EXPRESSIVE WHEN THEYRE 2D
yes
3D models have limitations due to how the model can warp.
Their getting better, post 2018 DreamWork movies have a better render engine and model set which allows for much more expression then the pre-2018 films. Trolls World Tour had this engine used on it, which is why it was more technically advanced over Trolls and its the best example right now.
@@AngelEmfrbl yeah ofc, 3D has limitations but to see the difference is a wowie!
This is so much more dynamic than what was actually in the movie. It was so much more playful and gave her a real personality and character other than "woman and love interest." It would've been a really good parallel to hiccup and astrid with the goofy man and stoic cold woman dynamic
Why r you obsessed with that dynamic? We already saw it enough times and it would make it a copy of other films. If anything at least it’s a unique character
@firefree5282 I don't know exactly what you mean. Maybe I'm taking it wrong but even though it is a heavily used trope, it would've still made her more than a love interest. The way she's portrayed in the movies is just an overly feminized version of toothless. She should've had a personality just like the rest of the dragons did. In my opinion she was just very mary sue and there was a lot of lost potential there is all
Idk if it wouldve saved her character, but they should have still kept this because it makes their relationship more expanded on.
It's adorable to see the ways they interact and flirt, idk why they didnt use it
Maybe budget?
Why would they take that out? They're properly courting like an animal would! They size each other up, show off skills, and play. She sees he's a good match for her and then shows she's receptive towards him. I would've loved to see this animated, It's far better than a silly little mating dance.
Don't think it would have saved her character, but it would definitely have improved it significantly and would make the relationship seem more genuine because, as is, she comes off as manipulative.
Completely agree, especially after seeing that one scene from the short film as well as this movie's ending.
Could you elaborate on that? What exactly did she do that was manipulation?
Oh look, a deleted scene that could've made the third movie a bit more bearable than the state it is in now
The only reason I think people didn't like the Light Fury was because Toothless suddenly wanted to leave with her. Like, after the years of being so loyal to Hiccup, he was ready to leave in a min for her.
If they had shown a bit more connection like in this. And hi trying to maybe integrate her with *his* life first. Then Hiccup seeing she wasn't going to be comfortable or happy, and the threat they were under, that is when he tells Toothless to go and it's ok.
Her character itself is fine, it's how they introduced her and didn't show this playful side of her, is what ruined her.
Agreed. I haven't seen the movie in a while and don't remember how it exactly went down, but I felt like both Hiccup and Toothless were too ready to leave each other.
"Toothless suddenly wanted to leave with her". Ever heard of this little thing called "animal instincts"?
This would have made it so much better, actually giving her some personality besides "I'm pretty and don't like people"
They deleted ALL the good scenes and I'm mad about it.
This woulf have been awersome, especially since we don't have a flight scene with Hiccup in this movie for some reason (unlike the other 2), this could have been an acceptable replacement.
WE COULD HAVE HAD DRAGON FLIRTING
W E CO U LD H A VE HA D
D R A G O N
F L I R T I N G
I know ;-;
Bonding scenes are like, the heart of httyd, which makes me sad this scene isn't in the movie at all. they actually seem so cute together here too.
For me, the light fury didn’t feel like a real breathing character. They just felt like an obstacle to teach toothless about their abilities and lessons. And that sucks! I want to like this character, tell they feel something. And I know this scene wouldn’t it do a lot of justice, but MAN is it all that I need, please she feels like a card-board cut out-
That’s because they cared more about her being a plot device rather than her own character.
I'm still mad that they didn't even give her a NAME. The writers were like "Oh she doesn't have a name to emphasise how much of a wild untamed creature she is" Screw you, we could have gotten Toothless and Gummy, not Toothless and nameless Light Fury.
toothless and toothfull (im sorry)
@@1ynn_0toothless and toothlots
Gummy is such a cute name to give her
She doesn't have a name because she doesn't have a rider. It makes perfect sense not to humanize her that way, because she literally is the dragon that Toothless left Hiccup to become.
@@reachinghigher4259I don’t know if I would say it would “humanize” her, but I agree that giving her a name would essentially lay a claim on her that humans don’t actually have.
I feel like the big problem with the Light Fury isn't even necessarily how little personality she has, but just the sheer lack of screentime she gets. She's in the film for what, 10, 15 minutes? No matter how much personality she was given in those scenes, it cannot compensate for simple lack of time. She could be an incredibly endearing and charismatic character with an interesting and meaningful relationship with Toothless, and it still wouldn't really work because a relationship with 15 minutes of screentime is never going to feel more important than one with more than ten times as much screentime that we've been following almost a decade. What this film really needed was to drop scenes and subplots to give more time to not just the Light Fury as a character, but her relationship with Toothless.
Yeah that's my main ick for her. And how Toothless just seems to ditch Hiccup, for her. Even when she nearly kills him like twice where in the past movies he was insanely protective of him.
Just felt like everything they went through was for nothing :/
@@T_E_G It's like they made him prioritize a potential romantic relationship over a platonic one (which I think is a bad message) he could have at the very LEAST been angry, but no, he's still puppy dog mode. This is supposed to be the same toothless that fought an ALPHA for his best friend of SIX years and in response to a woman he knew for a minute for trying to kill his best friend he just nervously smiled at her.
I just wish she was more expanded on, and Toothless felt more emotions toward her than head over heels.
Hiccup literally told toothless to go with her, and he came back a few years later.@@T_E_G
Nothing could save the LF, this movie was doomed from the second she attacked Hiccup multiple times and toothless did nothing. This was ths most out of character shit ever
Thank you!
Yess!!!! This movie is the WORST of the trilogy
I would’ve been happier with the decision to break up toothless and hiccup if they added this in the movie. Gave her actual personality.
In the final version she feels so robotic, like every interaction with Toothless is to test him to see if he’s “fit” kinda like birds and animals in the wild. I mean... makes sense ofc, theyre animals, but with the lengths they’ve gone thru to humanize Toothless with his demeanor, the light fury really could have used some of the same treatment and this deleted scene represents that so well. She just wasn’t likable enough in the film to warrant breaking up one of the most iconic, special duos in animated film history!
But she lived wild amongst dragons and toothless was more humanised being around the village. So it makes sense she had less of a personality and more of an 'animal instinct'
@@tsundereyoongi3869even if that makes sense in universe it doesnt really make her a more likable character. the irl reason toothless behaves like he does is because hes a central character so he does have to emote more for the audience to sympathize/relate with him. if they wanted to have people to be nearly as attached to the light fury as they are with toothless they should have given her more moments in the story to showcase that she has a unique personality other than “doesnt like humans” and “is interested in toothless”
@@tsundereyoongi3869 i guess but that’s not an excuse for poor characterization. Toothless had more personality than her when he was wild
YOURE TELLING ME THAT THEY HAD A WALL-E AND EVA MOMENT READY TO GO AND THEY DIDNT PUT IT IN?!?!!?
As a light fury hater (I'm sorry lovers) I've got to agree... I would actually like her way better with this scene!
That's what I always thought!
Agreed. I hate the fact that any scene that gives her a shred of personality ended up getting cut. It’s almost like they were afraid to give her too much character. This scene would have made her so much better and would’ve made her relationship with Toothless feel less forced.
honestly i hate the lightfury, for the whole franchise the entire message was basically that hiccup and toothless need to stay together, that they're family and all that- LF shows up, hates all of toothlesses past and convinces him to leave home 💀 idk if its natural, she has no personality and has literal hearts on her head - this whole movie was just a cash grab with a desire to sell merch of a 'pretty girl dragon'
YEP. Exactly how I feel it's so stupid, AND in Gift of the Night Fury, Hiccup builds a tail and Toothless actually smashes it. He had NO desire to leave before pretty girl dragon.
I think it was supposed to be about growing up and eventually having to part ways with your bestfriend... but the issue is that the bond between a human and an animal is far more co-dependent than "bestfriends" are... the alternative is... well maybe it was a metaphor for accepting the death of your pet, nature taking away from you and you just... having to accept it.
Oml bro stop hating...i honestly hate you
Weirdly enough I tolerated the light fury FAR more than I tolerated toothless. She at least had no understanding of their relationship, and she had reasons to dislike humans. Toothless on the other hand was a slobbery mess the whole time and it's really hard to believe he would leave hiccup forever so quickly like that, even if hiccup wanted the dragons to leave. There was no proper set up for it.
Also if all female dragons of that kind are white and all males are black, how are theri kids mixed black and white with spots? If Dragons are intelligent how come she didn't warn him of the trap she was a part of?
there are a few singular moments that i think we really needed. the light furry was always very prim and snooty, and toothless was always enamored with her. but we never got to see the light furry fall for toothless
okay but like its so disappointing they deleted this scene. the light fury was actually given a personality rathr than just being a mate for toothless
Sadly DreamWorks didn't do this scene...it's fanmade
@@kikirinhaa ah even worse 💀 even the community knows better
@@thehangedzai I don't understand, they did such a great job with puss in boots, but neglected such and amazing movie with great potential
Think you guys are forgetting that Toothless is only so fleshed out and full of personality because he isn't overly feral and rather human in expressiveness. The lightfury is more of a traditional feral that lacks all the silliness of Toothless and that is protrayed by her being more cold and aggressive. Y'all seem to forget that she was kept in a cage for an unspecified amount of time, didn't have good human interaction to imitate and become friendly off of like Toothless did, and also ISN'T TOOTHLESS. You all act like she should have become jolly and lively as if she and Toothless didn't come from two completely different backgrounds. May I remind you that Toothless's first experience with a human doing anything to him was a scrawny teen who ends up his best friend, meanwhile, again, the lightfury was clearly abused and was not domesticated. You guys trying to compare Toothless to the Lightfury is like comparing a domestic dog to a wolf. One clearly has more personality than the other, while the other will obviously behave like an animal with not much personality. The lightfury suddenly becoming all sweet and extra playful with Toothless would honestly by logical standards just make 0 sense since, unlike Toothless, she's experienced a lot of bad sht and terrible human interaction. Sge probably lacked a lot of the curiosity and social nature of all the other dragons we've seen as well because of the captivity.
@@JAUBAnimated but I've seen real life creatures that are feral that have more personality then her, and let's not forget that toothless was feral once and wasn't flashed out like she is
I think the lightfury in its entire concept was just. Bad. Having another nightfury would’ve been perfectly fine, there’s plenty they could’ve done to differentiate her from toothless
Not to mention there’s really no way to save this movie in general. The ending is just awful and undermines the whole meaning of the first two
YES. THANK YOU. So much this. I hated the ending SO MUCH. It was so terrible and I am so relieved that I'm not alone in my utter hatred for HTTYD3 as a fanatic of the franchise otherwise.
Agreed I hate the 3rd ending because we're saying that one stoic died for nothing 2 that hiccup and toothless would willingly separate when that contradicts the movies, the holiday special and the show not even mentioning valka who decided to stay away from civilization and her child to be with and protect the dragons doing as well seems out of character to the extreeme and lastly the 2nd movie literally already has a hidden world and the dragons already knew about both and saying they now decided they'd stay in hiding forever for some reason seems plot device like also the show and special about hiccups kids highlight the stupidity because they bring back the dragons meaning why in the world would we separate the friendships and bonds between the dragons and their riders for 10 years for nothing as well as berk has made a lot of enemies and survived most of them directly because of the dragons so now dragonless anyone finds them their sitting ducks as well theirs no way there is enough space for all the dragons that exist in the httyd universe as well it ends with them defeating the bad guy and convincing toothlesses girlfriend to trust hiccup to then go OK we solved all the problems but all the dragons need to go in permanent hiding because other vikings still want to kill them which has always been the case, plus if all the dragons go into hiding and most records show dragons as the enemy then everyone will still think they're the enemy plus toothless has a prosthetic tail fin the idea of it surviving 10 years in the wild is ubsurd.I love this franchise but I hate that ending I always find it stupid when we have a fantasy setting and we take away that key aspect a movie series about dragons loses the dragons a movie or show about magic looses magic why would you get rid of the key selling point.
Night fury with blue eyes.
Bro I left the movie theater feeling empty, that series was my hyperfixation for years since I was 10 and watching this at 19 ruined the magic for me. I haven't rewatched the third film because no matter what mental gymnastics they came up with with this one I can't excuse half of the shit that went on. The lighfury is boring, the bad guy was decent but could have been better, we went back to square fucking one, the hidden world if you actually think about it is a shit solution
Not to mention the horrid design of their offspring. As a newbie (color) genetics nerd, the babies having spots just to "mix" the colors from both parents are literally kindergarden ideology and I expected more from film makers 😭 Had it been a female nightfury the babies would not be a hard choice, they'd just be black as well.
This bonding scene would have been beautiful!
The contrast between Hiccup and Toothless, were Toothless bonded with Hiccup by imitating a drawing which could be seen as an animal trying to have human aspects!
And then this one, where Toothless is reconnecting with his animal side/dragon's instincts by doing silly things with the Lightfury
i love that the last part of the scene where they interlock feet and spiral downwards mimics the mating ritual of bald eagles, who interlock talons and spiral downwards towards the ground from a high height, basically a game of chicken to see if a potential mate is worthy
I never thought her character was that bad, but seeing how many times they could've twirled together, it would've made the movie much more memorable!
That should NEVER have been deleteddd
It was fan made
@@caramelcopcat It says "Property of Dreamworks, don't duplicate" at the top lmao, pretty sure it's not fan-made
@@caramelcopcat its official, Im dumb.
i still fully believe that the movie would have just been so much better if the lightfury had been a female night fury. she could still serve the same purpose but it would make more sense that his actual species could help toothless figure out how to turn invisible instead of a sub species
I know the message of this movie was supposed to be “make the world a good enough place for dragons” but Toothless abandoning his half-a-decade long friendship with Hiccup for a girl dragon he’s known for a day and half made me think dragons didn’t deserve Berk , not the other way around.
It's not that much the mate but more the fact that it has become dangerous for dragons to live outside, in two years they fought Drago and Grimmel, both tried to use dragons as weapons to become more powerful. It's also very clear in the third movie that toothless is almost like a dog and not like a friend anymore, he plays fetch with his prostetic leg and acts more human than before.
Berk is pretty much the only good place for dragons and it's a good thing that they go live in the hidden world, even if it's frustrating to see them separating.
I can feel you but i believe Toothless didn’t just give up five years of friendship for a girl. Berk is a utopia and hiccup don’t know if Berk will still be friendly with dragons. They don’t know how the dragon hunters will harm a dragon or attack this island. Human research on dragons has become too deep and it may be dangerous. That dragons might become pets, slaves, or even food to throw can only leave his kind to withdraw from the cruel history of humans.
Personally it would've made more sense for Toothless to leave because the Dragon's were viewing him as Alpha, and he needed to take responsibility for that position. and Unfortunatly with Hiccup that wasn't possible. The Hidden World is not a place for people- but instead they made it all about the Light Fury, which is infuriating and feels disingenious to the build up across both the 1st and 2nd movies.
Linking everything to "go, be with her" at the end of the movie is just tiring imo.
I found an in-universe explanation they could have used. The lightfuries are primarily water hunters but (insert reason for fast flying capability).The missing scales and rounder features to reduce drag and vortexes (the thing planes create at their wingtips that costs efficiency) underwater, the sparkly skin because it attracts fish. Something like that. (Still would've liked another nightfury better tho)
I agree, I myself made a few lightfury ocs with a few small tweeks, like I gave them colorful scales(usaully pastels) explaining it with it helps them both blend in underwater with coral and that it help attract mates, gave them sharper teeth used for catching slippery fish underwater, for me the lightfuries design felt bland and uncreative, I love sparkles and girly stuff just as much as the next girl, but sometimes you gotta draw the line with eye candy and a good character
Literally would have taken the writers five seconds to come up with this, but they couldn’t even be bothered.
i absolutely hate that this was deleted. i hated the light fury she had no personality and was clearly just the hot untamed girl dragon, this would have changed everything and made her so real. what a shame corporate greed said no
this wouldve made the connection to each other be more felt by the audience, we werent shown any bonding between them and they just kinda tossed the relationship at us
I think the film makers decided to delete this scene because of how long it'll take to animate the cloud moving thanks to the wing flaps and all, but that's just my opinion, either way this scene is beautiful, gives the Light Fury a much better character than just being as a mate to Toothless
still tho it would had added more personality to luna(the light fury) while also showing people going on dates and something doesnt go to plan its ok even if its embarrassing i love luna truly i do but people are right that we didnt see really much personality every screentime she got as well she behaved the same way really this scene added to personality what kind of female she is not just toothless lover or the scared light fury
Why are the comments so fresh ?? So aint the only one who JUST got this at their recommendations
HELP SAME 😭😭
The same
Same
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I've been wondering why the comments have exploded too. XD
Why is it that the deleted scenes are always some of the best
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what couldve saved the light fury, was actual light fury lore in the movie
😂 right?
Like we have with Toothless? lol We know what he's capable of in terms of strength, sure, but we have no idea where they come from, how they adapted, where they live, where they breed - the only NF lore we got in this movie was that they mate for live and can't survive in extreme cold. So... I kind of find this a weak argument. At least we know Light Furies seem to be permanent residents in THW, since we saw three of them besides the female.
AND THIS SOUNDTRACK WAS NEVER IN THE MOVIE ? IM CRYING
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this lol 😂 like why tf is El Dorado Music in this??
This would make more sense why Toothless wanted to be with her...
Just all these showed a whole falling in love scene, or is it just me?
She seemed genuine when she chuckled out of joy when toothless did the thing and all... idk, is it just me?
I thought so too, it just gave a bit more emotion to her. I think she's fine in the movie, but this just would have been extra points. XD
Really I just made this thinking some people who thought she lacked something could see what she was fully supposed to be like, and hopefully lessen the hatred for the poor girl. And I want to see this in HTTYD's original animation style. Woulda been SO pretty to see these things, just think of the colors!
Honestly my problem with her is that her introduction was so fast and sudden, and there was no build up to her, they could have made another movie of in which grimmel could have hinted at her apearance in a new movie toward the end, maybe even hiding her shadow in a scene, but it seems like dreamworks just wanted to get the triology over with, i mean look at nine realms, it looks like to me that they just gave up but wanted a good ending
Hear me out. Everyone is confused as to why this was cut as if it didn't fit into the movie due to it being to much work/time. But having spent a lot of time thinking about THW and the light fury I think this had nothing to do with time and everything to do with intentionally removing this scene because it didn't match how they wanted to portray the light fury (God, I hate having to say "light fury" over and over again, screw them for not giving her a name!) So when looking at her in the movie she always carries herself with grace, she's always poised and she barely shows strong emotions (except for anger maybe). Overall she is kind of aloof and she reminds me of a noblewoman in medieval time whoose job was to look pretty, sit still and not show many emotions. The light fury was intentionally not allowed to show raw joy or be goofy or carefree. Every single one of her movements had to be controlled and elegant. That's why I think this scene was cut. That's also why many people don't like her character, there just isn't too much to like, you don't feel with her or relate to her because she just seems distant, unemotional and cold. I just really dislike the whole movie's portrayals of female characters but the light fury is definitely the worst as she was wronged the most by the writer and director (and don't even get me started on her design because I could rant all day about how it doesn't make sense and was so painfully obviously made to be ""GURRLLL" and nothing else)
That, and all her hatred for the in-laws. Yes, she clearly has human-trauma from her time in captivity, but there's NO WAY she could not smell Hiccup all over Toothless, and visa-versa. She should have known in about half a second: no pain-smell, no fear-smell...bonded? That was his brother by another mother, and frankly, when anyone you're dating treats your loved ones like that hoity-toity little glitter-marshmallow did, it's a definite mood-murderer. _That_ is not the kind of gal/guy you bring home to meet the fam!
I love when random people on the internet put words over feelings I didn't understand myself- thank you so much
@@alexisgrunden1556true, especially that we've seen Hiccup calm down and bond with dragons who were hurt by humans before, even worse than LF, he's natural at that. And Toothless not doing a thing to tell her she's wrong just because she's the only dragon he could love? Toxic to me.
She literally has hearts on her head and she has pink sparkles. Cuz "GIRL".
@@xiesie_xiesie You are most welcome! 😂 And yeah; dude even managed to calm down a raging Skrill and forge a temporary truce with the Screaming Death, FFS! Lil Miss Sparklebutt should have been cooing and purring within a half an hour, tops! And I agree; Furies are fast, agile and highly intelligent, and however good a hunter he might be, Grimmel the Grisly is just one man. There's literally *_no phsyical way_* he could have scoured and searched every last nook and cranny in the world to eradicate ALL of the Furies, in all of their species/sub-species. It's literally not possible. So there HAVE to be more of them out there!
Toothless, darling, sweetheart...it's time for a divorce. Ditch the b*tch, and get your human to bring the fam. It's time to go on another adventure, and you _know_ Your Human will happily help you in this!
The biting the tail/spinning thing was so cute!! They really should've kept that, it would've been much more interesting for them to explore their relationship as feral and tamed animals than for them to do the typical male vs female characterization they always do. LF being curious of Toothless' prosthetic is not only adorable, but realistic!
the movie didn't sit right. it needed more meaningful and silly pure stuff like this scene. just exploring things naturally
i've seen no one else point this out but at 4:47 they probably based that scene off of what eagles do as a courtship ritual, bald eagles lock talons with their mate in flight and spiral down towards the ground! they also sometimes do this when fighting over territory, sometimes never letting go and falling to their deaths but that part is not as important. just a small fun fact!
That is so cool
Director: “Wait wait wait the they deleted that scene?! SHE WAS SUPPOSED YOU BE PLAYFUL!”
LF: I could’ve been playful?
Director: I EVEN ANIMATED IT SO IT WOULD BE KEPT!
Toothless: SHE COULD’VE BEEN PLAYFUL?!
(This is what happened in my head as I watched this)
I have no problem with the light fury. Her being a love interest dong really seems bad. I think my problem is come on, this scene was so cute, plus the music sounds more fitting for them hanging out together. They could've kept it
So... we all got recommended this now?
...yeah
Yup
lmao yes
Yep.
Funny huh?
This adds so much personality to her, rather than just a wild female that takes toothless away from hiccup
If only they added this in the movie
I don't think it would have made her more of a character necessarily, but it would have definitely done so much more than what we got. Here, she at least seems to have more of a personality and this 5 minutes gives us more insight into their bonding and what her personality is actually like, since it was quite rushed in the movie. This would have been so much more than what we got.
I hate deleted scenes
they always add so much, and yet some dumb f decides they donnt belong to the movie
this wouldve saved her character (if we can even call it that) so weelll!!
shes playfull, witty and a girl that knows what she wants in a man. when she denied to hold his wing and later on did, seeing how toothless could become invisible, my heeaarrtttt!!
NOT TO MENTION THE FALLING PART!!!
oh my god thats amazing, it resembles the courtship baldeagles perform to find the best mate. its like a challenge, they hook tallons and plunge down from great heights. the later the mate frees themselves to save their skin, the better the relationship or something like that
I thought that was them fighting over a female but uh oh well?
I love the LF, and it’s logical for a matured male to seek a mate. It’s a biological feature that makes sense. But dragons also show great emotional intelligence, which makes me wish these scenes weren’t cut to show that the LF isn’t just pretty but also full of sass and overall just a nice character in general
SO YOURE TELLING ME WE COULDVE GOTTEN FIRST FLIGHT TOOTHLESS AND HIS GF EDITION AND THEY DELETED IT???? WHOS IDEA WAS TO DELETE THIS?!?! WHO HAS SINGLE HANDEDLY RIPPED AWAY A PIECE OF ABSOLUTE GOLD RIGHT FROM THE HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON FRANCHISE. im. So fucking mad about this is. This is the worst thing to happen to HTTYD right after the 9 realms
The scene was probably cut for pacing reasons, but it really shouldn't have been. Watching these two orcas of the sky in a full courtship flight would have really brought some magic back to a movie that was sorely lacking in it.
Orcas of the sky, that's hilarious. Love it. XD
@@TheEnvisFuryThink about it:
They're extremely smart, on the edge of full sapience while still being animals
They're very social. Toothless was TERRIFIED when he was first shot down and given a chance to fly on his own, flatly rejected it.
They're apex predators even though they aren't the largest dragons by far.
Their aerial courtship massively reminds one of cetacean courtship, just faster because air over water.
They can be temperamental and deadly effective in defending themselves, but do not attack humans without cause.
They really did remind me of orcas in a lot of ways.
@@ArchTeryx00 I don't disagree, it just sounded amusing. Also , "edge of full sapience while still being animals"? I hate that argument.
@@TheEnvisFury Awkwardly worded, I do admit. But what would you call something like that? Orcas, iRL, are a real edge case (as are Sperm Whales). So is Toothless. He acts instinctively some of the time as animals do, but he also has many of the hallmarks of human-level abstract reasoning. Being "an animal" isn't a bad thing - we all are - but I guess it comes down to how much ROM vs. RAM a critter has. How much is preprogrammed instinct, and how much is learned behavior? We're still researching that with orcas, but they have features no other animal on the planet save us have, like culture. In Toothless' case, that question was handled with a whole lot more grace and complexity than with most critters in animated fiction, and that's what drew me to the series in the first place.
@@ArchTeryx00 Orcas and corvids are definitely the best examples, I just dislike the way animals get cast aside because, as you said, we're all animals.
I never meant to argue your point about the intelligence and other aspects of orcas, just yeah, wording is everything online as there is no "tone of text" lol
There were so many ways they could have done this movie well.
It’s such a disappointment to see the way it turned out.
It’s also INFURIATING bc I fucking LOVE the light fury’s design but it’s insufferable bc she was just designed to be a “female dragon”
This added SO much to the Light Fury’s personality! They truly shot themselves in the foot by cutting this! 🤦♀️
I really don't understand why they deleted this. It's absolutely amazing and adorable! This scene would've really showed Toothless's and the Light Fury's relationship and how strong/true it actually is. I have decided to live in a lie and say that this scene was actually in the movie. I love the third movie, but I just wish they would've kept this scene in.
Same
The grabbing each others tails reminds me of bald eagle’s courtship dance where they lock talons and drop from the sky only to break away at the last minute
I will never understand why they removed this. She has such a fun and quirky personality! Hell, SHE HAS A PERSONALITY!
Everything here is so cute and I feel like msot people would've liked to see this in the movie
Y’all forgetting the mating dance and everything isn’t how they typically would have called to each other this scene being proof but since toothless never got to interact with dragons of his species he was copying other dragons mating rituals which is why she looks at him all weird. Yes this scene is awesome but the fact they thought about toothless probably not actually knowing his species mating rituals he was copying his friends which were different species.
But this scene could be a significant change to his copying. Instead of copying other species, this scene could slowly highlight him learning from his own (sub)species
There was no saving this movie lol.
@@AS_IETSIST Exactly, like unlocking something core to his species, what makes him leaving humans for dragons more reasonable, he learns who he truly is. Not to mention he wasn't raised from an egg, he was at least a teen when he was captured and was hanging with plenty dragons before Hiccup, makes no sense he wouldn't know how to mate.
@@InternetNonsenseSpeaking as a human, who's been around humans for my entire 30+ years, I still cannot human correctly to save my life so it makes sense Toothless would know less if his more recent life events were done around non-dragons.
I think even if I was allo and wanted to screw, I still would not know how to and I've never switched what species I live with. XP
@@Roadent1241 Toothless isn't a shut-in and Internet addict, constantly exposed to pornography to become sexually dysfunctional as humans of today, he isn't even a sole captured dragon. Even pets we raise from infancy catch on fast on what mating for their species is. No sense why he would be stunted.
HTTYD 3 felt bloated with so many random plot points. I keep seeing all the deleted scenes and wishing we got those instead of half the random things in the movie
This makes so much sense! Eagles will do a similar free fall of love where they lock talons and dive.
I imagine that this was mostly cut due to time restraints. Which is a shame because it is so beautifully storyboarded.
I don’t think it would have “saved” her but it would have made here soooo soooo much better than she was left and gave her more personality and character that the really flat “female love interest” than we got. Another thing the would have helped save he was her ORIGINAL DESIGN!! I love her original design so much but what we got is so so flat and why is it covered in glitter??? They could have harnessed fire but the only got ashes of what could have been great!
The only thing I didn’t like in the movie was that toothless was so eager to leave hiccup for her, like I know he’s a dragon and he’s never had that before but cmon, hiccup has gone thru so much more with toothless. It was really obvious that the studio just wanted to finally end the series
Yep, definitely understand that. Felt kinda..weird tbh
And then instead of leaving the series they milked the shit out of it yet again which doesn’t make sense to me
Well now they’re making a live action version so obviously they weren’t in a hurry to end the series lmao… it’s all money 💴 and greed.
@@Kelsey1987moreso they wanted to milk it for money without coming up for a new plot.. so they made a plot to end the movies so they could live action them.
The reason I think Light Fury doesn't feel more than a female put to distract Toothless as it seems to be. Is because the movie was rushed as fuck. They tried to put everything in a 1hour and a half movie. I didn't even understood well the whole story. It was for a 3 hour movie. The rushing affected the whole world building, even the villian.
i found this insanely sad cus Grimmel's character idea was AMAZING it legit had the potential to be better than drago which is near impossible for sure, and frankly i think because the movie was a tiny bit of a flop it didnt really let me end my obsession? which is now making me desperate for them to make something again but BETTER (i am aware of the live action one coming i stg it better be good or i will grind dreamworks bones into a bloody powder and make a dreamworks movie about it)
this should have definitely have been in the movie, this scene just shows more of the bond between them instead of them just being instantly in love because its a male and female. It also gives the light fury some actual personality other than just being a wild dragon that doesnt trust humans and only acts as a love interest for toothless
I honestly don't think it would, they should have added more bonding moments yes but more spread out imo. This character showed 0 unique traits other than "oh, new dragon with new behavioral and biological traits" I didn't see anything unique to her compared to Toothless! She didn't seem to have anything she cared for or any sort of personality, even if you eatch the movie on its own you can tell what these two are, Toothless is bubbly charismatic and shows clear personal "goals" he wants to achieve while her is just the cute-sy supportive character who has nothing going for her but this plotline. The movie had plenty issues in general but that part just rubs me the wrong way a ton
HTTYD 2 feels more like the 3rd movie because it showed more of that "hidden world / sanctuary" inside a massive ice spire, but the actual 3rd movie felt rushed i couldn't even remember what the nightfury's place looked like, and the vikings leaving their homeland made the story ending incomplete instead 😭
This whole sequence is so cute, not sure it would’ve saved the movie but I would’ve cared about the chemistry with Toothless and The Lightfury a little more. This reminds me of Spirit and Rain in a way.
I appreciate how they make them do the mating sky dance that a lot of birds do. It’s mostly a raptor thing I think but they hold their feet together and dive.
Another raptor thing is that the females are bigger and stronger than the males. Which is. Another thing that would’ve been nice. Instead of dainty stereotype toy selling design with a heart shaped tail.
Well, on the subject of the Light Fury being more dainty than Toothless, you COULD say it's because they're two different (yet closely related) species; for example, in this scenario, Toothless is a Pigeon and the Light Fury is a Dove.
@@acrazyweeb7225 I am willing to accept this explanation so I can cope
@@acrazyweeb7225 well canonically they are two separate species! in the scenes in the hidden world, you can see a considerable amount of light furies, which implies that - since grimmel was hunting night furies specifically - the light fury was a different species, as it could reproduce on its own. if that's not enough evidence for you, in the final scenes of the movie, toothless and the light fury's offspring are a mix of black and white, which would not happen if the female night fury is white and the male is black!
I was very annoyed at first when I saw that the design for the light fury was so different to the night fury, but seeing as they’re two separate species (obviously close enough to breed and to share many physical attributes, but not the same) it made me feel a lot better about it all
in my mind, it's a little like a golden labrador retriever and a black labrador retriever. they’re essentially the same dog, but with a small difference between the two
I just realized that they changed her noises in the final product. LET HER SOUND LIKE A DRAGON DAMN IT!
this would have given more insight to the light fury that I would have loveddd its like an extrovert and introvert and gives more to her than ohh la la captured edgy light fury. It shows why they are so compatible, they both have that playful nature to them but toothless is way more outgoing with it
I think it wouldn't have saved the character, but would have shown in more detail why they love each other. Their movements in the dance, the touching of their wings, the communication without words. That should have been added to the movie about dragons!
I like the movie, but I need more dragons!)))
this is what hhtyd was always meant to be, cute dragons flying around with beautiful scenery and meaningful character building
pretty much every important scene in the first movie, where characters really developed, or relationships were explored more, was in the sky
hiccup and toothless only really got each other after they flew together, same with hiccup and astrid, and every other character with their dragons; it’s like, the whole point
"Property of DreamWorks - do not duplicate"
Screw that someone animate it rn.
I love this so much. It captures the same love that is between Hiccup and Toothless and their exploration of such wonder and freedom. This makes the separation they endure make more sense on an emotional level in my opinion.
I think her character was fine, personally, but i still think this scene should've stayed in the movie, it shows more bonding between her and toothless which would've made their union less.. Idk the word but its more like "awe, they like each other" and excluding it is like "wow.. She's the only other one so they gotta reproduce right..?"
Same I mean she was abused by humans so she was scared no one took time except Toothless to gain her trust 🤷♀️
It was a 5 minute scene, im sure they could have implemented this... I like seeing her fun and playful personality
It can take hours to animate even as little as 30 seconds depending on how detailed the movies are, they probably cut this beautiful scene so they could meet the deadline they set for themselves after already postponing the original release date :)
@@toonie_playzz maybe but even so, it would have been a lot nicer with it in
while the “point” of the original scene comes across in the full movie (which is why i imagine this was cut) i feel like the more extended version wouldve been warranted to show the connection between these two characters. I have other issues with httyd3 and the light fury so its inclusion wouldnt magically make me love or even like the movie but it wouldve made the light fury and toothless’ bond feel a little more genuine
it was insanely sudden and yeah as cute and as awesome an idea it was, it was NOT THAT GENUINE, ngl i cant help feeling it couldve been better if she wasnt in the trailer at all somehow? (or maybe if they just yk did better) granted that wouldnt have made much sense but if they focused on grimmal tryna finish his night fury killing streak and left the light fury as a surprise maybe i wouldve loved the movie, i gotta be honest tho the scene where all dragons left had me bawling despite what unfortunately the majority of the movie lacked
These scenes would have shown us much better of the day fury and her silly playful side and her interaction with Toothless, but unfortunately this scene was cut, giving the scene already in the film little interaction between these two.
If they had added a couple more interactions between the Light Fury and Toothless, I would have enjoyed their relationship in the film even more. Although they are so cute and beautiful
you mean Toothles ?
@@Wendigolover95 Forgive me please, I don't speak English. I use a translator.Yes, I meant Toothless, thank you very much for noticing my mistake
np fella :}@@DekSho
I wish they added this it shows a lot more of her personality
In reality we know that Toothless wouldn't have fallen in love with her normally. The only reason he did was because 1st of all, plot needs a plot, and he knew he was the last Night Fury, and he needed to save his speices.
The light fury just doesn't fit Toothless's personality literally at all. Especially after you watch the Httyd shows, like race to the edge.
And the Light Fury is a subspecies, there's more than one in the Hidden World, and its an adult and a juvenile, which could only mean the Light Fury is the female of that pair. She fr ditched her own species. It just doesn't make sense. 3rd movie is a 6/10 for me
Well just like any other animal, most animals will mate when given the chance, so it makes sense that toothless was so drawn towards her. It’s just in animal nature, instinct.
@@MegamindsjuicycheeksAfter all, no idea hie long nightfures live for and how old he was by the first httyd, but if he hasn't found a mate in however long his life has been. Either way, he finally sees something somewhat close to him after so long, no wonder he inmediatly went for her, it's his instict hidden deep inside him to find someone he can pass his genes forward with, even if her personality is overbearing.
And she might have been mateless because of said overbearing and playing hard to get personality, so when this deseperate male with no one to match chooses her, she jumps into the oportunity to pass her own genes too.
Sad but... pretty natural
I would have LOVED to see the Light Fury reacting to Toothless' new tail fin!
Ikr!! Has a wild dragon it would have made a lot of sense!
Gosh, that scene made me actually like the two of them together
Our problem is that shehad no character development
I hate her
But only cause it was like “here’s a girlfriend for our boy who was happy with his found family”
I really dont care if httyd 3 was longer cause of this. Its adorable.
I like this because she is the one who initiates the intertwined free fall which real birds of prey do in courtship. Shows that she really did like him instead of only playing hard to get.
Right at the end when they lock feet and spiral down I think this is probably a reference to the “death spiral” eagles do when they find a mate… I wish they kept that and the rest of the scene in 😭😭😭
We now can see more into the light fury's character that she can be playful when she is out of the hidden world when her job is the queen! 😃
I feel highly disappointed this wasnt in the movie...sure it doesnt really enrich the film in any meaningful way but toothless deserves a romantic fly around just like astrid and hiccup... Kind of a missed opportunity
Light fury deserved more time to get to know her character