If you use a NEMA 6-30, it doesn't require a neutral wire. If you use a NEMA 14-30, the neutral is needed for coded (even though the mobile connector does not use it). Use the appropriate wiring for the outlet you choose.
@@ngouviet420 From what I have seen, ground and neutral should not be using the same bar on a subpanel. I would check with an electrician in your case. waypointinspection.com/neutrals-grounds-subpanels/
Great video! Is there a difference between the red (hot) and black (hot) going on any particular side of the outlet? Just left or right, not to be confused with the neutral or ground.
@@seanrozenberg1570 I'm adding a 20A mini-split HVAC unit and wanted some extra headroom since I already had two NEMA 14-50 in the garage. I found that I mostly only need to charge at 24A anyway.
There are 3 options for the NEMA 14-30 outlets: $12 Leviton30 Amp Industrial Flush Mount Shallow Single Outlet @ homedepot; $44 BRYANT Receptacle: Industrial, Single, Flush Mount, 30 A, 125/250V AC, NEMA 14-30R @ Grainger; $140 HUBBELL WIRING DEVICE-KELLEMS Receptacle: Industrial, Single, Flush Mount, 30 A, 125/250V AC, Black @ Grainger. Which one should I go? Thank you in advance!
I would only use 10/3 if the distance is short. I always bump it up to the next gauge, 8/3 for extra headroom and continuous charging that EVs require. For your situation, is the 10/3 already installed?
I have a pre wired 240 V box not hooked up. It was there for a dryer but our laundry room is inside. The wires are 8 awg aliminum. Will this be sufficient for a 14-30. ?? Thank you.
Is there much if a difference between a 14-50 and 14-30? Im planning to use this with a standard range + model 3 2021 and I heard those are limited with the charging. Mainly due to the 14-50 adapter being sold out.
Since you have a SR+, the max charging is 32A. So the difference between a NEMA 14-50 and 14-30 is 8A. This is adding 30 miles/hour and 22 miles/hour or range, respectively. For normal driving of 30-60 miles a day, it's not much of a difference in charge time, especially if the car is parked overnight.
@@MTNRanger this is really helpful! I think I’ll go with the 14-30 But if the local tesla store has the 14-50 in stock it might be worth getting it since the electrician said same price for 14-30 or 14-50
it doesn't heat up any more old dryer, nor does new dryerheat up, i wondered if breaker panel is full breakers it is too many breaker? for 200 amp box. i got measure all breaker ad upt o, then see if more than 200 amp box gives.@@MTNRanger
ye even old dryer has heat new dryer has no heat smell , old tries work but heating element is crapped new dryer not any heat from dryer on highest heat settings @@MTNRanger
Amazing video and great guide! For my installation, I need to run it outdoors and my garage is about 50 feet away. I’m thinking of running it above ground and in a conduit. I live in illinois so I would experience all the seasons. Is there a specific type of wire I would need to purchase?
Most places require electrical wire to be buried outside. That and the depth depends on local code. I would check to see what is legal in your area first. For example during my garage construction the service line had to be 36” underground.
Nice video with best explanations.
what was that thermal sensor at about 14:55?
great video by the way!
Thanks. It's a dual use (people/object) thermometer: amzn.to/3zk2WOx
@@MTNRanger thank you, just bought it... versatile, great overall reviews, and reasonably-priced + nice design as bonus
is it true that you can leave the neural out for the tesla charger? just hot, hot, and ground?
If you use a NEMA 6-30, it doesn't require a neutral wire. If you use a NEMA 14-30, the neutral is needed for coded (even though the mobile connector does not use it). Use the appropriate wiring for the outlet you choose.
@@MTNRanger what if my sub panel only has the neutral ground bar.. do i just put both the green and white on this? thank you bro your the best!
@@ngouviet420 From what I have seen, ground and neutral should not be using the same bar on a subpanel. I would check with an electrician in your case. waypointinspection.com/neutrals-grounds-subpanels/
After you charge your vehicle do you have to unplug from the wall OR do you just take the nozzle charger out of the car?
It’s best to leave the EVSE plugged into the wall outlet.
@@MTNRanger Thanks for the info.
Great video! Is there a difference between the red (hot) and black (hot) going on any particular side of the outlet? Just left or right, not to be confused with the neutral or ground.
Red and Black are both hot and it doesn’t make a difference if it is left or right.
@@MTNRanger Thanks! Also, why did you downgrade the breaker from 50AMP to 30AMP?
@@seanrozenberg1570 I'm adding a 20A mini-split HVAC unit and wanted some extra headroom since I already had two NEMA 14-50 in the garage. I found that I mostly only need to charge at 24A anyway.
There are 3 options for the NEMA 14-30 outlets:
$12 Leviton30 Amp Industrial Flush Mount Shallow Single Outlet @ homedepot;
$44 BRYANT Receptacle: Industrial, Single, Flush Mount, 30 A, 125/250V AC, NEMA 14-30R @ Grainger;
$140 HUBBELL WIRING DEVICE-KELLEMS Receptacle: Industrial, Single, Flush Mount, 30 A, 125/250V AC, Black @ Grainger.
Which one should I go? Thank you in advance!
The Bryant 9430 from Grainger is the best deal. The same model at other places costs a lot more. Get that one.
Can you not use 10/3 since it’s rated for 30amps and 240v? Thanks
I would only use 10/3 if the distance is short. I always bump it up to the next gauge, 8/3 for extra headroom and continuous charging that EVs require. For your situation, is the 10/3 already installed?
I have a pre wired 240 V box not hooked up. It was there for a dryer but our laundry room is inside. The wires are 8 awg aliminum. Will this be sufficient for a 14-30. ?? Thank you.
8 AWG aluminum is cutting it close (equivalent to 10 AWG copper). Copper would be perfect. How far is the box to the panel?
@@MTNRanger thanks so much for the reply. About 6 feet.
@@thews9237 That close you should be fine.
@@MTNRanger thanks so much!!
Is there much if a difference between a 14-50 and 14-30? Im planning to use this with a standard range + model 3 2021 and I heard those are limited with the charging. Mainly due to the 14-50 adapter being sold out.
Since you have a SR+, the max charging is 32A. So the difference between a NEMA 14-50 and 14-30 is 8A. This is adding 30 miles/hour and 22 miles/hour or range, respectively. For normal driving of 30-60 miles a day, it's not much of a difference in charge time, especially if the car is parked overnight.
@@MTNRanger this is really helpful! I think I’ll go with the 14-30
But if the local tesla store has the 14-50 in stock it might be worth getting it since the electrician said same price for 14-30 or 14-50
my 30 amp,125/250 volt, 14-30R, 3-pole, 4-wire , my 4 prong plug 30 amp electric dryer is wired to 30 amp outlet is not working why?
Im looking to install this for my bmw i3, correct my if I’m wrong…
*14-50 nema receptacle
*6 gauge wire
*40 amp breaker
How much did your electricity bill go up a month when charging ?
On my 3rd year, I calculated that I spend $37/month on my electricity bill to drive roughly 1000 miles.
my 30 amp,125/250 volt, 14-30R, 3-pole, 4-wire , my 4 prong plug 30 amp electric dryer is wired to 30 amp outlet is not working why?
Was there something (like a dryer) previously using this outlet? If so, if you plug it back in, does it work?
it doesn't heat up any more old dryer, nor does new dryerheat up, i wondered if breaker panel is full breakers it is too many breaker? for 200 amp box. i got measure all breaker ad upt o, then see if more than 200 amp box gives.@@MTNRanger
ye even old dryer has heat new dryer has no heat smell , old tries work but heating element is crapped new dryer not any heat from dryer on highest heat settings
@@MTNRanger
@@blizte3 I would have an electrician inspect the outlet. It could be any number of reasons (bad breaker, bad wiring, bad outlet, etc).
did dryer was miss wired plug
ground was not done to 4 prong
@@MTNRanger
Amazing video and great guide! For my installation, I need to run it outdoors and my garage is about 50 feet away. I’m thinking of running it above ground and in a conduit. I live in illinois so I would experience all the seasons. Is there a specific type of wire I would need to purchase?
Most places require electrical wire to be buried outside. That and the depth depends on local code. I would check to see what is legal in your area first. For example during my garage construction the service line had to be 36” underground.