@Sun Wu-Entai 90 That is true Piccolo vs Krillin was one of my favorite fights of the series. Also Kami and Piccolo were pretty even. I always wondered how that fight would have played out of Kami didn't try the evil containment jar.
@Jerry Smith Yes it was, I just watched the fight. Yamcha got rekt, it wasn´t even fair. Tien recieved the full impact of Yamcha´s kame hame ha like it was nothing. I think it was the first time we saw someone doing that. th-cam.com/video/Ov6opsfWuiI/w-d-xo.html From 4:13
I think their point is how it was more "realistic" than now. But hey, it's dragon ball, it escalates all the time, would make 0 sense to go back. They're among gods now, no just martial artists.
What do you mean "when smurfing wasn't really a thing"? You say that like it existed, but it was unpopular. It didn't exist at ALL, this is from the 80s.
What I love the most about this, is how Roshi willingly gives up and just walks off the ring, completely shattering Tien. That was the first big move that led to Tien abandoning the ruthless ways of the Crane school.
Watching Tien's fighting style here, you can see he was overwhelmed with hatred for some reason back then. He is and will be one of my favorite characters of all time.
It's due to his Master's training. The Crane hermit was a loser, he trained Mercenary Tao. To be a merciless killer that thrives on breaking people, literally. Master Roshi was actually much stronger than Tien here, even Tien knew Roshi held back his full power; but Roshi thought Tien would change if he held back his full power & let him win.
@@brantleyfoster021 - That's is simply not true. After the fight, Roshi and Tien had a talk, and at first Tien assumed that Roshi gave up because he had seen for himself that none of his student could beat Tien. Roshi then calls him a fool, and tells him that he gave up because he realized that none of his students would get a big ego just from winning that tournament, and that he was worried for nothing. And then, while he was leaving, Roshi said *"but you're right about one thing, had we kept fighting, I would have lost."* Tien then thinks to himself "he admitted defeat? No dignity..."
I think most people can figure out Tien is stronger than Master Roshi. Same for the next Tournament, Goku was going to beat his opponent and same for Picolo.
No, he loss to Tien and Roshi in this tournament. And Goku had to be disqualified when he used his cloud in tournament. If You talking not about tournament so Goku lost a lot of times - he lost first time to Yamcha, Tao, King Piccolo, Raditz and ect.
Evaldas Strikeris Woah man, chill out. It seems you like to initiate agressive arguments. I never said Goku has never lost a match. He's lost many times (some due to handicaps but others were fair) Anyway, that is why I said technically in Goku vs Tien, Goku did beat Tien in combat, but the truck helped Tien. However, I believe the original comment was not even about how many times Goku had won or loss.
@@TenshinhanIsKing Was gonna say, literally everyone in the community likes DB more than DBS lol Not that DBS is bad but DB was the OG and a lot of people believe DB fell off when Z ended
Notice that Goku was the ONLY one who didn't count out Tenshinhan at all even when Master Roshi did. This episode showed Goku's evolution from student to master.
@@saiyanfang1047 it’s not filler it’s anime canon since goku tells yamcha krillin and Jackie chun that he encounter tien before and we even got the flashback of tien fighting goku in the canon episode when goku tells them what happened.
for those who sleep on Tien need to know this isn't even the full fight...Tien mastered the kamehameha wave after seeing it once with his third eye. This is 1 of my favorite Dragonball fights all-time tho
The way they handled the end was genius and very respectful to Roshi. The plot demanded that Goku fought Tien in the final round but for that to happen Roshi had to "loose". I was very satisfied with the ending of this fight up in the air as Roshi stepped down and forfeited. Seeing Roshi loose by defeat would just seem....wrong. But this was perfect.
I get what y'all are saying in the comments with the "back when so and so, power levels, martial arts" yadda yadda, but can we all just take a minute to appreciate how hard Roshi and Tien went in on eachother, martial arts or not? Like seriously, back and forth going for straight kill shots and then beating the absolute piss out of each other in a way that can only be described as the reason "slobberknocker" exists as a term. Good fuckin' shit, both characters.
This is why fights like this and Piccolo vs. Android 17 are some of my favorites, because eventually they ditch the fancy martial arts and just go to absolutely beating the shit out of each other.
Fearless 512 martial arts matters in super for sure,if you saw goku vs caulifla he was able to beat on her for a while just using his skill and not raw power which is what she was relying on
Federal Bureau of Investigation haha no, super doesn't even care about martial arts. Just have a higher power level, spam punches ki blasts etc etc and then the character pretty much wins fight, no skill or barely any technique whatsoever.
Federal Bureau of Investigation Mostly it was Power Level. If u notice carefully, LSS kale(controlled) and SS2 califra were certainly beating Goku SS2 until he went SSG and overpowered them. So basically Goku had to be of exact power level as those 2 so that he can keep up with them, even using transformation like SS he can increase his Speed, strength and endurance as well. So basically higher PL means u are more better. This was there in Z as well. Freeza, cell and kid buu had higher PL than Goku hence he had so much difficulty in defeating them. So that's why SS was invented becoz in Z, everything was on PL and speed. But don't get confused with ASS since it had a increase in PL but decrease in speed and mobility. So if u see DB had the same PL theory as well when piccolo was introduced.
("I've never encountered a fighter this agile and skillful! Whoever he is, he's a greater teacher than the Crane Hermit.") ("This kid's astonishing! He effortlessly takes and answers my attacks. This endurance-level is simply superhuman.")
@@pingaspearce9403 precisely, Goku's major lifelong flaw is that he constantly underestimates his opponents cruelty and persistence to said cruelty. This causes him to lower his guard when he thinks the fight is in some form of intermission when in fact his foe is winding up for a cheap shot
I appreciate DB so much now that I am older. DBZ up to Freiza was amazing but watching DB just reminds you of how much great material just got left behind in DBZ.
I watched Dragon Ball years ago, but decided to start from the beginning whilst I let the dub of Dragon Ball Super build up episodes (embark on Goku's full journey). It's been great watching it again, and after just finishing this fight I'm reminded how cool these face offs where. Yamcha Vs Tien was also really intense. Dragon Ball's fights were generally more technical and what we get later on. I also forgot how much of a dick Tien and Chiaotzu was.
Can we just appreciate that Roshi uses a 50% version of his MAX Power technique, that means he has complete control over how much power he's putting out at almost all times and I feel like that should be talked about and praised.
@@wilcowen6284 Roshi was stronger than Tien here. But he didn't use his full power like Tien wanted, he confronted Roshi about it after Roshi lost to him on purpose & Roshi admitted he would've lost to him. Tien knew that he would've lost to Roshi though, if Roshi had've used all his power's.
@@wilcowen6284 He was, he had already destroyed the Moon year's earlier & had trained extensively here. He didn't use his full power as Tien noted. Plus Tien lost to Roshi in DBS at full power. Roshi is the strongest human on Earth, well until Uub appeared.
I think he means that this was just purely for proving one was great at MArtial arts and on a fairly tame level since it was earlier in the Dragonball Series. "Normal" people actually could waltz into a tournament and give Goku, Krillin, Roshi, etc. a run for their money. The fights were tense because usually you wouldn't know who would win when people like Tien showed up. The Tournament of Power has way too much at stake to just enjoy the fight for the fight. Its not simply a spectacle, but rather an all-out war to keep your own universe safe. Of course we all knew that 7 would win and that everything would go back to being just Peachy afterwards. It's much more predictable. And more about overpowered blasts being the norm rather than something special like the Kamehameha was back in Dragonball.
@Merciless Freak I enjoyed Super 17 Black Frieza Vegeta moments Goku moments Roshi hype asf.. I understand that Vegeta and Goku must become more powerful and face characters with overwhelming power themselves.. If not taking Super so seriously its really enjoyable as a fan of DB. To each their own
@Merciless Freak if every fight in the ToP was mediocre to you except for UI Goku vs Jiren then I can't help but think you didn't watch the ToP or otherwise have really weird and inconsistent definitions for what constitutes a good fight.
After I saw that master Akira Toriyama had taken a photo with the kung fu legend "Jackie Chan" I finally felt nostalgic again and looked for the figure of Jackie Chun
This and Piccolo vs. Android 17 are some of my favorite fights because after a while the martial arts are dropped and they just move to beating the absolute shit out of each other.
after watching dragonball you realize Z did a huge disservice to every character in dragonball and made the show... more lame in a way. Its really why the creator and others never seem to recreate Z because they miss dragonball it self not Z
Despite now goku being billions of times stronger, roshi will always be his master. Out of respect but mostly because you can always learn something out of these old codgers and turn to them for wisdom and moral guidance, thats what makes the OG dragonball so iconic
This might be the last fight where martial arts matter in all of Dragonball. The rest of the series is either Goku or Piccolo physically overpowering people with their superior alien abilities and then in Z its all about who has more ki
roshi going easy on him so goku can have a rival and he can get back to chilling on his island lol. 0:50 is proof, tien really had no chance if roshi was serious.
Not really because they just brought a tournament back but dragon ball today is all about transformations, energy attacks, and flying, I’m really tired of characters getting these random transformations when they need it like at least dbz kept continuing to hype up the super saiyan transformation before it happened using Vegeta
I agree but I like z and dragonball equally. Z introduced stronger enemies, gohan's ssj2 transformation and future trunks ssj transformation. Man those were sad amd hit alot harder than their dads. But I wish it still had the dragonball essence and tien, piccolo, yamcha and krillin can come back to the fights instead of just hanging in the background. Same goes for gohan and trunks. Even goten. They were wasted and the spot light is always on vegeta and goku and that can be a problem.
It’s not really out fault. Dragon Ball had a few attempts first here in the US but because of the violent nature of the show and it’s sexual innuendo, it was heavily edited and place in crappy early morning time slots so it never took off and never went past the Emperor Pilaf saga at first. The same would hold true for Dragon Ball Z’s first run as well. It wasn’t until DBZ went to cable on Cartoon Network’s Toonami when it would finally take off. After the success of DBZ, then they went back to finish original DB. So we were always exposed way more to Z then original DB. Not by choice but how it turned out.
I’m glad that super made Rossi relevant again. I sort of want him to do a 100 year training in the time chamber for 100 days and end up as strong as a super Saiyan or higher. Also, I want old kai to unlock him, tien, krillin and Yamcha where they adopt animal symbols and hit their spiritual forms.
I am happy that they made him relevant, but unhappy at how they boosted him up while shitting on Tenshinhan. Dragon Ball is very popular. The fans would love a reboot of the series. While Goku should be kept at a leading protagonist and it should be fight focused, there should be more focus on adventure and mystery, and other characters should be more developed. Also they have to establish a much more rational magic system with clear power scaling and limitations to power. There should be no beings capable of destroying planets without seriously hurting themselves or dying in the process. Power levels should not be measured and just being the strongest should not make one the best fighter. Techniques, strategy, and tactics come into play. A very physically strong fighter can be beaten by a weaker fighter who has more endurance and can bend air, fire, and water better than the stronger fighter can, while also summoning demons to assist him (though with likely grave consequences for doing this last bit).
Roshi mentions this a few times, at least in the manga. That he could probably beat Tien. He said that he wanted to disqualify himself so Goku and Krillin understand that there's always people stronger than them, and to not just focus on trying to beat "Jackie Chun".
he only had so much Problems in the first Tournament because he used like half of his Energy for the Kamehameha to destroy the Moon . Goku never wasted this much Energy and Roshi still won
A full power kamehameha wouldn't do anything but destroy the field. It's disadvantage is that it's easy to dodge, that's why Roshi only used it on static objects like a burning castle or the moon.
I don’t know, how many tournaments have you won? I don’t know, how many planets have you blown up. None, how many Goku’s have you beaten?! Can I fight now?
Dragon ball went from serious martial arts fights with blood and gore to power rangers There is no reason to downgrade to no blood when there is anime like attack on titans
What I love about some of the more recent DBS arcs is they gave Tien and Yamcha people to actually fight. All they have to do is stick some lower tier henchmen on and give these fuckers some actual screentime, they're good characters going to waste
Back when fights were purely about techniques and Martial arts skills. Not power levels or transformations and literally defeating every villain by blasting them to smitherines in some way shape or form
Im actually really surprised the ref didnt call a illegal choke hold like that. I mean killing isnt allowed. Tien was probably trying to make Master Roshi tap out.
People saying that martial arts isn’t a thing in super anymore, Whis mentioned in the TOP that goku has an advantage in his base against ssj2 caulifla because of his skills as an martial artists
Tien’s path to the Finals was difficult. He faces Yamcha, Roshi, then Goku? Those are some tough matchups. Respect.
Tien beaten Goku in the finals
Yeah all 3 of those fights were tough. You could argue that Yamcha hurt him the most when Yamcha said he didn't speak pain.
@Sun Wu-Entai 90 That is true Piccolo vs Krillin was one of my favorite fights of the series. Also Kami and Piccolo were pretty even. I always wondered how that fight would have played out of Kami didn't try the evil containment jar.
Yamcha wasn't even a challenge for Tien. Tien was toying with him most of the match. As soon as Tien got serious, he obliterated Yamcha easily.
@Jerry Smith Yes it was, I just watched the fight. Yamcha got rekt, it wasn´t even fair. Tien recieved the full impact of Yamcha´s kame hame ha like it was nothing. I think it was the first time we saw someone doing that.
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From 4:13
Why everyone keeps saying Master Roshi when it's clearly Jackie Chun?
I’m unsure if you don’t know that they’re the same guy or that you just want to call him Jackie Chun cause it’s DB
@@safimiyo it's like sniper king and ussop are not the same. That person is Jackie chun
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen them in the same room together.....
You may just be on to something!
@MPDeity
Read my reply again but slower
@MPDeity
Then why'd you woosh it if you didnt read it?
I actually miss when martial arts mattered.
Monolith Gaming ik and skill and technique actually played a role.
good times those were
I think their point is how it was more "realistic" than now. But hey, it's dragon ball, it escalates all the time, would make 0 sense to go back. They're among gods now, no just martial artists.
Dragon ball and dragon ball z are completely different series. Take it or leave it.
Yeah, boys, you tell him! *You're not allowed to miss anything*
Master roshi using a smurf account back when smurfing wasn't really a thing
Snake47 lmao
Basically, lol.
MASTER SMURFI
What do you mean "when smurfing wasn't really a thing"? You say that like it existed, but it was unpopular. It didn't exist at ALL, this is from the 80s.
Smurfing?
When roshi was one of the toughest around.
Dimebag Darrell watch the last episode of dbs
Ryan Black ik ive seen. The creators are fucking dumb. Roshi is a man or fighter of many techniques.
Ryan Black When Tien was THE Toughest.
Dimebag Darrell he still is
Still one of the top 12 fighters on earth.
This Jackie Chun was a real power house, damn shame we never saw him again after this tounrament
He would have one shot Jiren in the tournament of power
@@Joker-ru7zl Neither are touching monaka. Monaka one shotted Hit, even Jiren couldnt do that
Or maybe in the Cell Games where he can attempt to stop Cell.
@@Joker-ru7zl Heck he would have been a WAY better choice than master roshi
What I love the most about this, is how Roshi willingly gives up and just walks off the ring, completely shattering Tien. That was the first big move that led to Tien abandoning the ruthless ways of the Crane school.
You mean Jackie Chun
@@jubjubbird56he's roshi
@@mrtrollnator123 no way! He looks totally different and has a different name! Besides, roshi is totally bald!
@@jubjubbird56 he superglued the hair to his head and look at his eyes they're the same also THE MFING NARRATOR TELLS YOU THAT HES ROSHI U DEAF
@@jubjubbird56Plus, Jackie Chun isn't nearly as handsome as Roshi!
Watching Tien's fighting style here, you can see he was overwhelmed with hatred for some reason back then. He is and will be one of my favorite characters of all time.
Sure his atonement for the guy whose leg he broke to only ask for the dragon ball was character development.
@@MrVariant a
Yaas 🙌
It's due to his Master's training.
The Crane hermit was a loser, he trained Mercenary Tao.
To be a merciless killer that thrives on breaking people, literally.
Master Roshi was actually much stronger than Tien here, even Tien knew Roshi held back his full power; but Roshi thought Tien would change if he held back his full power & let him win.
@@brantleyfoster021 - That's is simply not true.
After the fight, Roshi and Tien had a talk, and at first Tien assumed that Roshi gave up because he had seen for himself that none of his student could beat Tien.
Roshi then calls him a fool, and tells him that he gave up because he realized that none of his students would get a big ego just from winning that tournament, and that he was worried for nothing.
And then, while he was leaving, Roshi said *"but you're right about one thing, had we kept fighting, I would have lost."*
Tien then thinks to himself "he admitted defeat? No dignity..."
another reason why i like dragon ball more than Z is you never know who is going to win the fight
I think most people can figure out Tien is stronger than Master Roshi. Same for the next Tournament, Goku was going to beat his opponent and same for Picolo.
But Goku lost to Tien and Roshi. And it was surprised
Only 2 fights...and one of them Goku technically won his 1st fight against Tien, there just happen to be a 3rd party involved for plot reasons.
No, he loss to Tien and Roshi in this tournament. And Goku had to be disqualified when he used his cloud in tournament.
If You talking not about tournament so Goku lost a lot of times - he lost first time to Yamcha, Tao, King Piccolo, Raditz and ect.
Evaldas Strikeris Woah man, chill out. It seems you like to initiate agressive arguments. I never said Goku has never lost a match. He's lost many times (some due to handicaps but others were fair) Anyway, that is why I said technically in Goku vs Tien, Goku did beat Tien in combat, but the truck helped Tien. However, I believe the original comment was not even about how many times Goku had won or loss.
XD 1:21 roshi just lets this dude run up to him, do a front flip, and kick him in the face 30x lmao
Scripted
Vageta does it all the time. Lets opponent know you can take it
Rob Dias name “all” those times.
Roshi? That's obviously Jackie Chun.
It's an arial feign into a high knee stunlock
Unpopular opinion, but this fight is SUPER underrated. Even with all the love it gets, it doesn't get all that it deserves IMO.
Wow you’re so brave for stating such and “unpopular” opinion 🤓
This is one of the best fights in the franchise no doubt! Any true DB fan would agree.
@@TenshinhanIsKing Was gonna say, literally everyone in the community likes DB more than DBS lol
Not that DBS is bad but DB was the OG and a lot of people believe DB fell off when Z ended
@@TenshinhanIsKingnobody cares
@@Xoilen you care
Notice that Goku was the ONLY one who didn't count out Tenshinhan at all even when Master Roshi did. This episode showed Goku's evolution from student to master.
He fought Tien earlier before the tournament
@@psp785 filler
Roshi named Goku as a master before the training time skip
@@saiyanfang1047 it’s not filler it’s anime canon since goku tells yamcha krillin and Jackie chun that he encounter tien before and we even got the flashback of tien fighting goku in the canon episode when goku tells them what happened.
@@Tradetek1 if it's not in the Manga then it's not canon.
For me, this character interaction (fight) is the most influential in the entire series. Roshi is a teacher to anyone who could learn.
I love Tien's English voice. It's so soothing and relaxing
i heard he is the english voice for kurama in yu yu hakusho as well. who has an amazingly soft voice.
1:21 when you play fighting games against new players and they spam the same button.
Pretty much
Lol this comment is underrated.
Made me laugh good point
😂
Me in dragon Ball legends
It feels nostalgic and great to see that dragonball is still living after many years
for those who sleep on Tien need to know this isn't even the full fight...Tien mastered the kamehameha wave after seeing it once with his third eye. This is 1 of my favorite Dragonball fights all-time tho
The way they handled the end was genius and very respectful to Roshi. The plot demanded that Goku fought Tien in the final round but for that to happen Roshi had to "loose". I was very satisfied with the ending of this fight up in the air as Roshi stepped down and forfeited. Seeing Roshi loose by defeat would just seem....wrong. But this was perfect.
saying "kamehameha wave" is like saying "Bacon&eggs with eggs"
Brian Griffin lose* Dumbass!!
@Sir Garde no in Japanese it means turtle destruction wave. Like kame school means it's the turtle hermit school
@ not really
I like how at the end they're both like "f*ck defenses, I'll just go for the offense now".
Back when DB was mostly martial arts and less supercharged energy attacks with aliens and power levels
And the fights could be more detailed. Like actually watching a martial arts fight.
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I get what y'all are saying in the comments with the "back when so and so, power levels, martial arts" yadda yadda, but can we all just take a minute to appreciate how hard Roshi and Tien went in on eachother, martial arts or not? Like seriously, back and forth going for straight kill shots and then beating the absolute piss out of each other in a way that can only be described as the reason "slobberknocker" exists as a term. Good fuckin' shit, both characters.
Couldn't have put it any better myself
true
that being said, this was back when martial arts mattered and there wasn't so much power level creep.
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This is why fights like this and Piccolo vs. Android 17 are some of my favorites, because eventually they ditch the fancy martial arts and just go to absolutely beating the shit out of each other.
Never heard of the term slobberknocker lol
back when martial arts mattered and not just having some high power lvl where you can withstand any attack
Fearless 512 Because having lightning fast hands and a strong tongue that can kill with pressure points is so damn real.
Fearless 512 martial arts matters in super for sure,if you saw goku vs caulifla he was able to beat on her for a while just using his skill and not raw power which is what she was relying on
Man since Tao Pai Pai power levels became a thing. This is older than you could remember
Federal Bureau of Investigation haha no, super doesn't even care about martial arts. Just have a higher power level, spam punches ki blasts etc etc and then the character pretty much wins fight, no skill or barely any technique whatsoever.
Federal Bureau of Investigation Mostly it was Power Level. If u notice carefully, LSS kale(controlled) and SS2 califra were certainly beating Goku SS2 until he went SSG and overpowered them. So basically Goku had to be of exact power level as those 2 so that he can keep up with them, even using transformation like SS he can increase his Speed, strength and endurance as well. So basically higher PL means u are more better. This was there in Z as well. Freeza, cell and kid buu had higher PL than Goku hence he had so much difficulty in defeating them. So that's why SS was invented becoz in Z, everything was on PL and speed. But don't get confused with ASS since it had a increase in PL but decrease in speed and mobility. So if u see DB had the same PL theory as well when piccolo was introduced.
AYO TIEN GAVE THIS NIGGA 40 QUICK ASS KNEES YO IM CRYING LOOOOOL
("I've never encountered a fighter this agile and skillful! Whoever he is, he's a greater teacher than the Crane Hermit.")
("This kid's astonishing! He effortlessly takes and answers my attacks. This endurance-level is simply superhuman.")
"You know what? I was wrong. This got SO much dumber."
"Agreed. Sure is a lot of not killing Goku going on right now. You know what would fix that?"
@@No_One_Important"Is it killing Goku?"
I assume you’re all talking about 1:37?
HA I got that reference
@@MikuIsMine A good old round of killing goku
A good example of raw talent vs experience
1:07 so ironic everyone had there guard down except goku
Do you know what ironic means?
@@jimbobob9273 he's correct it's ironic
Since Goku never has his Guard up
@@pingaspearce9403 precisely, Goku's major lifelong flaw is that he constantly underestimates his opponents cruelty and persistence to said cruelty. This causes him to lower his guard when he thinks the fight is in some form of intermission when in fact his foe is winding up for a cheap shot
@@jimbobob9273do you? Op clearly does because Goku is never ready.
Why do we never see Jackie Chun again? He was so cool
I appreciate DB so much now that I am older. DBZ up to Freiza was amazing but watching DB just reminds you of how much great material just got left behind in DBZ.
What? Left begind
This is one hell of a great fight! The newer stuff doesn't have this same charm to it.
Back before you could just scream ''I gotta save my friiiiiieeeeends!" and your power level goes up.
Dragon Ball fights were way more vicious
I watched Dragon Ball years ago, but decided to start from the beginning whilst I let the dub of Dragon Ball Super build up episodes (embark on Goku's full journey). It's been great watching it again, and after just finishing this fight I'm reminded how cool these face offs where. Yamcha Vs Tien was also really intense. Dragon Ball's fights were generally more technical and what we get later on.
I also forgot how much of a dick Tien and Chiaotzu was.
0:11 Sure, when HE does it, he looks like a martial arts God. When _I_ do it, I look like a spaz.
Yes.
Indra
you really see the action. that's why DB is so great and classic
Can we just appreciate that Roshi uses a 50% version of his MAX Power technique, that means he has complete control over how much power he's putting out at almost all times and I feel like that should be talked about and praised.
You pulled that statistic right out of your fucking asshole shut the fuck up you bitch you don't know what the hell you're talking about!!
When Master Roshi mean something and still relevant.
Did you watch super
@@rileyfreeman3778 this is like him going toe to toe with jiren its not really the same
@@wilcowen6284
Roshi was stronger than Tien here.
But he didn't use his full power like Tien wanted, he confronted Roshi about it after Roshi lost to him on purpose & Roshi admitted he would've lost to him.
Tien knew that he would've lost to Roshi though, if Roshi had've used all his power's.
@@brantleyfoster021 no he wasnt
@@wilcowen6284
He was, he had already destroyed the Moon year's earlier & had trained extensively here.
He didn't use his full power as Tien noted.
Plus Tien lost to Roshi in DBS at full power.
Roshi is the strongest human on Earth, well until Uub appeared.
I love many moments from DBZ and Super but DB original is just so much more adventurous and full of wisdom.
2:00 when you agree with your homie to not block
I miss these types of tournaments with actual challenges that Goku and friends had to face not just each other
Sooo what the TOP is?
I think he means that this was just purely for proving one was great at MArtial arts and on a fairly tame level since it was earlier in the Dragonball Series. "Normal" people actually could waltz into a tournament and give Goku, Krillin, Roshi, etc. a run for their money. The fights were tense because usually you wouldn't know who would win when people like Tien showed up.
The Tournament of Power has way too much at stake to just enjoy the fight for the fight. Its not simply a spectacle, but rather an all-out war to keep your own universe safe. Of course we all knew that 7 would win and that everything would go back to being just Peachy afterwards. It's much more predictable. And more about overpowered blasts being the norm rather than something special like the Kamehameha was back in Dragonball.
@Merciless Freak I enjoyed Super 17 Black Frieza Vegeta moments Goku moments Roshi hype asf.. I understand that Vegeta and Goku must become more powerful and face characters with overwhelming power themselves.. If not taking Super so seriously its really enjoyable as a fan of DB. To each their own
@Merciless Freak if every fight in the ToP was mediocre to you except for UI Goku vs Jiren then I can't help but think you didn't watch the ToP or otherwise have really weird and inconsistent definitions for what constitutes a good fight.
@Merciless Freak yep most fights were stupid just like you and your whole family
Then tien gave up on his fancy moves and started repeatedly kneeing this man in the stomach
Dragoball just had a much better feel than the later series.
Fantastic fights, great usage of its cast... it was amazing
Back in those days before Tien was known for his roasting skills!
Them muscles popping
After I saw that master Akira Toriyama had taken a photo with the kung fu legend "Jackie Chan" I finally felt nostalgic again and looked for the figure of Jackie Chun
I love how their reaction times to each other's techniques are inversely proportional to the speed of their own attacks...
The time where fights are brutal,epic and nostalgic. The time where Dragonbal was awesome and very badass. I love so much this time!@!!
Remember when Tien was cool and a threat?
I don't miss anything of this because i keep watching it. DB was the best.
Ah, back in the days when every character in the show had great value to them and not just the usual like 4 or 5 (sometimes less).
Yeah. That's True.
>Clowns on his opponent
>Calls him misguided
>Refuses to elaborate
>Leaves
Awesomeness, keep up the great videos sir. l love all these fights
This and Piccolo vs. Android 17 are some of my favorite fights because after a while the martial arts are dropped and they just move to beating the absolute shit out of each other.
Ah yes, the times where side characters could at least stand up to the main villain of the arc.
When they both kicked each other in the gut, kneel down and started rolling got me 😂😂😂😂
Tien should have stuck with crane style, would have had more depth as a character.
Maybe but we will never know
why does master roshi always say boo when he fights
Son Goku Cuz He Is Scared *LOL*
Because he actually is the real demon Buu. His essence is trapped in Roshi.
No he says boob coz hes a pervo...🙎
I thought cuz he tried to b intimidating but hes is too goofy to do That 😂
Tien mattering? It’s been a long while
Dude this whole tournament was crazy - it wasn’t all just about Goku like it all kind of is. Though Roshi vs Goku at the end was awesome
Jackie chan (master roshi ) threw that jacket on bulma on purpose 😂😂 how many of u agree? 😂
One of the best fights of the ENTIRE franchise.
Damn I forgot how brutal this fight was
I have watch this episode this is master roshi..
after watching dragonball you realize Z did a huge disservice to every character in dragonball and made the show... more lame in a way. Its really why the creator and others never seem to recreate Z because they miss dragonball it self not Z
Watch Japan doesn't like Tien by Plague of Gripes
The way this show evolved is still crazy to me…
Master Roshi just had to take his gi off to show he is serious lol
It’s funny how it landed on Bulma too XD
It’s not Master Roshi. Clearly it’s Jackie Chun.
THIS FIGHT IS THE TRUE DEFINITION OF LEGENDARY
Despite now goku being billions of times stronger, roshi will always be his master. Out of respect but mostly because you can always learn something out of these old codgers and turn to them for wisdom and moral guidance, thats what makes the OG dragonball so iconic
Now this right here is a true example of catching hands
This might be the last fight where martial arts matter in all of Dragonball. The rest of the series is either Goku or Piccolo physically overpowering people with their superior alien abilities and then in Z its all about who has more ki
For an ancient old man, Roshi is sure badass when he focuses up.
roshi going easy on him so goku can have a rival and he can get back to chilling on his island lol. 0:50 is proof, tien really had no chance if roshi was serious.
Roshi himself stated that Tien might have beaten him at full power
You know you're a legend if your name is being used by an anime character.
1:45 a real van Damme punch
You know everyone says they miss the martial arts, but am i the only one that noticed super tried to bring it back
lmao what????? you gotta give examples bc i don't see that shit at all. they brought a tournament back, they did not bring back actual martial arts..
Not really because they just brought a tournament back but dragon ball today is all about transformations, energy attacks, and flying, I’m really tired of characters getting these random transformations when they need it like at least dbz kept continuing to hype up the super saiyan transformation before it happened using Vegeta
And look at Tien now...
What a fall from grace.
At least he's not Yamcha
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Dragonball is so underrated compared to Z.
This is all thanks to the Western audience of course😅.
As a kid I was one of few who liked the OG Dragonball more than Z.
I agree but I like z and dragonball equally. Z introduced stronger enemies, gohan's ssj2 transformation and future trunks ssj transformation. Man those were sad amd hit alot harder than their dads. But I wish it still had the dragonball essence and tien, piccolo, yamcha and krillin can come back to the fights instead of just hanging in the background. Same goes for gohan and trunks. Even goten. They were wasted and the spot light is always on vegeta and goku and that can be a problem.
It’s not really out fault. Dragon Ball had a few attempts first here in the US but because of the violent nature of the show and it’s sexual innuendo, it was heavily edited and place in crappy early morning time slots so it never took off and never went past the Emperor Pilaf saga at first. The same would hold true for Dragon Ball Z’s first run as well. It wasn’t until DBZ went to cable on Cartoon Network’s Toonami when it would finally take off. After the success of DBZ, then they went back to finish original DB. So we were always exposed way more to Z then original DB. Not by choice but how it turned out.
Not even one Ki Blast. Those things where rare back in the day, special stuff.
this was legendary fight
I’m glad that super made Rossi relevant again.
I sort of want him to do a 100 year training in the time chamber for 100 days and end up as strong as a super Saiyan or higher. Also, I want old kai to unlock him, tien, krillin and Yamcha where they adopt animal symbols and hit their spiritual forms.
I am happy that they made him relevant, but unhappy at how they boosted him up while shitting on Tenshinhan.
Dragon Ball is very popular. The fans would love a reboot of the series. While Goku should be kept at a leading protagonist and it should be fight focused, there should be more focus on adventure and mystery, and other characters should be more developed. Also they have to establish a much more rational magic system with clear power scaling and limitations to power. There should be no beings capable of destroying planets without seriously hurting themselves or dying in the process. Power levels should not be measured and just being the strongest should not make one the best fighter. Techniques, strategy, and tactics come into play. A very physically strong fighter can be beaten by a weaker fighter who has more endurance and can bend air, fire, and water better than the stronger fighter can, while also summoning demons to assist him (though with likely grave consequences for doing this last bit).
Back when the characters were surprising and the battle was good and the days when krillin and goku were addorable
DB, when technique was key, attacks really hit home, and when martial arts were thought of over measuring peoples power kevels.
Roshi > Tien. Roshi never was 100% max 75% . He didnt even use his full Power Kamehameha
Roshi mentions this a few times, at least in the manga. That he could probably beat Tien. He said that he wanted to disqualify himself so Goku and Krillin understand that there's always people stronger than them, and to not just focus on trying to beat "Jackie Chun".
he only had so much Problems in the first Tournament because he used like half of his Energy for the Kamehameha to destroy the Moon . Goku never wasted this much Energy and Roshi still won
A full power kamehameha wouldn't do anything but destroy the field. It's disadvantage is that it's easy to dodge, that's why Roshi only used it on static objects like a burning castle or the moon.
Claussanta 86 Tien never went full power on him either. He didn't use the Four Witches Technique, the Dodon-Pa, or the Kihoho.
no way he didnt use his Lightning Suprise Attack for example ( Goku could only escape because he went Giant Ape and Power x10 )
Chun's hair is so perfect. It almost looks fake.
I don’t know, how many tournaments have you won?
I don’t know, how many planets have you blown up.
None, how many Goku’s have you beaten?!
Can I fight now?
Dragon ball went from serious martial arts fights with blood and gore to power rangers
There is no reason to downgrade to no blood when there is anime like attack on titans
Back when tien was a killer
What I love about some of the more recent DBS arcs is they gave Tien and Yamcha people to actually fight. All they have to do is stick some lower tier henchmen on and give these fuckers some actual screentime, they're good characters going to waste
Bad guy Tien is more active than good guy
Back when fights were purely about techniques and Martial arts skills. Not power levels or transformations and literally defeating every villain by blasting them to smitherines in some way shape or form
Tien: Hey, there's a letter here for you from Bein Choked
Roshi: Who's Bein Choked?
Tien: YOU ARE! *strangle*
SpitefulCrow lol that’s really good😂😂
Lol, most underappreciated comment on TH-cam.
Im actually really surprised the ref didnt call a illegal choke hold like that. I mean killing isnt allowed. Tien was probably trying to make Master Roshi tap out.
People saying that martial arts isn’t a thing in super anymore, Whis mentioned in the TOP that goku has an advantage in his base against ssj2 caulifla because of his skills as an martial artists
no like old db used actual martial arts tropes n shit
When there was actual fighting in the db universe
They need to bring back his 4 hands why didn’t they think of including that in the dragon ball fighterz🥲 so cool
it's okay I didn't want to see the end anyway
I like how Roshi is seen to have missing teeth at the start of the fight and then have a full set during the middle of the fight with Tien.
Roshi was shocked
Man I wish we could've had Jackie Chun in the TOP with roshi. They would've been so cool together
0:43. "Tien use Fury swipe!"
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@@irontomato3835 Ay, just like in Mystery Dungeon.
Back when power levels where bellow 100. Old times. Good times