Sukhoi was basically built for air superiority while Rafael was built for precision ground attacks while having the ability for air to air combat. Just add R-37M missile and N035 Irbis radar to SU-30MKI and it will become invincible in front of any Rafael
After, super Sukhoi upgrade. 1,Astra mk-2 (160+km) 2. Uttam AESA Rader (better then refal) 3. New Electronic. 4. New cockpit , This time mki could be comparable ❤️
@@L.K.P_😂😂 sahi kaha bhai, iaf ko kadi tapacharya karni hogi ye upgrade pane ke liye. Phir bhagwan drdo prasanna honge our iaf ko ye upgrade ka vardaan denge.
@@yixinmei5854 bro but Su 30 mki has thrust vectoring nozzle it so it can easily dodge missiles at a close range without using chaff and other counter measures in visual range it’s the king , in bvr Rafael is the better fighter
In BVR, Rafale can only carry 2 Meteor BVRAAMs. Thus, in BVR combat, once Su-30MKI dodges 2 Meteors from Rafale, the Rafale will be at the Flanker's mercy. Then it will be 10 longer range BVRAAMs (10 Astra Mk1) on the Su-30MKI vs 8 shorter range BVRAAMs (8 MICA EM + 3 1,390 Kg Fuel Tanks). Once the Astra Mk2 is integrated with the Su-30MKI, the Rafale won't be as dominant in Long-Range BVR combat, as it is now.
But su30mki's pilot and wso on 2bd seat gives it added advantage. As WSO could focus on weapons and pilot can focus on flying....with good coordination this combo could be deadly
Sir as per my understanding I think angle of attack is the angle between cord line of the wing to the relative wind direction. FPV or flight path vector is the assumed or projected position of the aircraft relative to the horizon in vertical path profile or horizontal path profile. It is displayed in primary flight display to help pilot to land in runways
@@RCLepchaguess we don't operate R37M it's an air to air hypersonic AWACS killer really good missile we always buy weapons which don't make any sense kitna accha mauka hota agar 2019 mein the sukhoi's locking on paki Saab AWACS with an R37M 🤷🏽♂️
Very detailed analysis. Though as many pointed out SU-30MKI needs upgrades as most of it's technology is of 2000s standards. Whereas Rafale F3R and F4 are a lot newer.
@@boejiden7093 SU-30MKI has several non Russian components including the mission computer, EW pods, helmet sights, towed decoy and more. There's a very detailed analysis of this aircraft on this channel itself. Regarding the whole chips issue it is severely overhyped. This war has proved it. Russia continues to produce more and more weapons despite sanctions. Other countries which over came chip supply issues include Iran who achieved a very successful drone program and North Korea who continues to make better ICBMs every year despite being under sanctions for decades. This proves one of two things either these countries make chips of their own or they have stable methods to smuggle chips out of west.
During the 1st Airforce day of Rafale(just inducted), I saw Su30 & rafale were using every opportunity to fly together outside their routine. Su30 were following Rafale easily whereas rafale were giving their best to out manuver Su30
@@L.K.P_ Not all flanker but Su 30 flanker has special maneuver capabilities. Su30 only lacks a good AESA Radar & good BVR WVR missiles & electronic counter measures.
Only two contries can test both types India & Egypt ....but they won't give their conclusion cause its quite bothering for the air forces..... But Egypt decided to cancel a new SU 30 acquisition and have ordered more Rafale....
Always knew that Rafael is the better and more potent fighter aircraft between Su-30 mkI and Rafael, but never thought that Rafael will literally own Su-30 mkI with such ease. If Su-30 is IAF's backbone then it should really upgrade it to another aircraft with Rafael like or more capable aircraft. Great video by the way. Thankyou ❤
one thing you missed about the radars, there is difference between search range and track range.. in this category mki will be the winner since its radar can search upto 400km+. AESA radars usually have less search range.
Great episode👍🏼 Will be eagerly waiting if & when you decide to make a comparison between Su-30 MKI Upgrade (Super Sukhoi) and Rafale in future. I believe Dassault is working on upgrading French Airforce/Navy Rafale fighters to Rafale 4.0 or Rafale 5.0 version which they will probably offer their clients like India too to upgrade their export version Rafales to similar advancements. An episode on the same (ie. what do these upgrades entail?) will be most welcome too. Love your channel, thank you👍🏼
I think because of the higher t/w ratio, su30 mki has better kinetic energy generation. And because of flying wing design it has lesser air drag compared to delta wing rafale. So, within vidual range i think su30mki will dominate.. But after we integrate with aesa, better avionics and mwr, su30's bvr capability will increase significantly. And there were rumours that iaf trying to integrate meteor with its su30. If that happens and after induction of astra mk2, i guess its bvr capability can match with rafale. But main problem will be rcs. If our super sukhoi program again initiated (i lost update if ita still going on or abandoned), its rcs will also reduce. So, we have all the instruments to make our backbone formidable. Lets hope we do
Our su 30 have become outdated, IAF needs to hurry regarding its upgradation. It doesn't have missile approach and laser warning system, but Chinese fighters are equipped with these and they also have better radar and avionics compare to oue back bone su 30.
Rafale is better in bvr as well as within visual range fight. I've experienced this in DCS. Many times, it also dominated f22, which is regarded as the best of the best.
A few years ago during real training the Rafale (old version) had beaten the F-22, which upset the USA enormously. They tried to hide this fact, but eventually the videos came out and they had to admit that "well ok it happened" But that doesn't matter, we're all allies👍👍
@@boejiden7093 we already know almost everything about it. T/ W ratio, radar details, engine details, missile package, payload capacity, range it will carry. The only things left are radar cross section, which we can estimate to be slightly smaller than Rafale, turn radius and angle of attack, which we will get to know as soon as the prototype is tested.
@@DocPrakhar it doesn't matter, the plane itself doesn't exist thus we would be comparing imaginary numbers against real performance numbers of an aircraft. it's stupid, point less and a waste of time
@@RohanSingh-zc4bm have you ever bought a car. Or even a phone? People typically look out for the next model, when it is around the corner for launch to compare if they are getting a good deal. Considering India might have to buy 114 Rafale under MRFA soon (which are great but very expensive), it would be nice knowing about another option in detail, should you choose to wait out the deal for a better one.
It doesn't matter which fighter you're flying... It's up to the pilot skills...We can shot down F16 with Mig21... So it completely shows that our pilots are the Best of the Best... Jai Hind🙏😎
Air to air fight:- Radar : Su-30-0, D.Rafale- 1; BVR : Su-30-0 , D.Rafale-1; Within visual range: Su-30-1 ,Rafale-1 ; Conclusion- Su-30 mki needs huge upgradation with fly by wire sustem, AESA RADAR, BVR missiles, digital display etc, then compare Super Sukhoi to Dassault Rafale.
Su30mki still have chance to dominant air space if we go for Indian payloads and uttam aesa radars .... su30mki ka main role samne aakr airspace ko defense krna air dogfight and attack role me hai
Su-30MKI was better than Rafale FR1 and perhaps more comparable to Rafale FR2. Rafale FR3 is simply too much for Su-30MKI unless the MKI is upgraded with Super Sukhoi package. As of 2024 ...most advanced fighter in the IAF is Rafale, followed by Tejas mk1A and then Su-30MKI
Fantastic topic for discussion. Much appreciated. SU or any other soviet aircraft have superior manuverities and agile in nature which is very good in dog fights. But its a technology of past. Raffle on the the other hand have lesser RCS with berrer avionics and some stealth features. But the aviation vision is fast moving forward to Stealth technology.Faster you spot enemy targets and able to lock on to it is the key of success. Therefore 5+ Generation machines in the only way forward. I am very sceptical about the AMCA project as DRDO have a great record of 25 years or more average delay. But our begger neighbours are announcing Chinese stealth fighter inclusion very soon. So we got to do something very fast to maintain our air superiority in the region ASAP.
Su-30mki doesn't have missile approach warning system?, as per my research Su-30mki has radar warning system (dhruti) and dual colour missile approach warning system
I think absence of LWR, MAWS makes Su 30 mki is weak. Not only that, due to open air intake, engine blades are clearly visible which is very negative for su 30 mki. It can be easily detected with IRST and passive sensors. It has high RCS also.I am curious to know that what are actual possibility of within visual range combat? It's not about only between Su 30 mki and Rafale... But with all F15 ex, F35, eurofighter typhoon, Su 35 and Gripen. By the way, I am interested same comparison with super sukhoi...
Rafale is no doubt excellent fighter, but being old SU30 is still in a league of it's own. If only India gets SU 57 to replace SU30 it's gonna be advantageous to India. Good details in video. ☝️😎
WVR WW1 aur 2 k jamaneh ka tactics tha ab BVR hi chal raha hain. Isiliye Technology Advancement required hain. Fire and Forget technology ko improve karna chaahiye. Countermeasures ko ignore karneh wala system hona chaahiye Missile mein.
Waiting for the Super Sukhoi upgrade. That will make the Sukhoi way more capable then Rafale for the BVR combat. That thing is huge, imagine how many T/R modules you can fit in it!
Can we conclude following ? In 26th Feb 2019 type scenario: Rafale is going to be preferred choice as attacker due to Omnirole capability. In 27th Feb 2019 type scenario: Rafale is going to be preferred choice as defender due to great BVR capability. So if not today, SU30 MKI going to be obsolete in/after next 2-3 years as most battles are going to be BVR ?
Su-30mki has some technology which are Decades old while Rafale F-3 standard is quite new. I think after Super Sukhoi upgrade Su-30 will be better than Rafale F-3
@@MrShadw-qn5gp SU-35 also participated in our earlier MRFA competition and IAF choose Rafale over SU35. Super Sukhoi upgrade is nothing but injecting SU-35 capabilities in SU30MKI. So if Su-35 itself is not chosen over rafale then Super Sukhoi has no chance against rafale.
@@HarshVardhan010783 India also pulled out from FGFA program does this means Su-75 has no chance against Rafale. Su-30mki can be compared with Rafale F-2 standard. If the Su-30 can get new engine and avionics and AESA radar it can become equivalent to Rafale F-3. Su-30 have highly Frame with 3D thrust vectoring nozzles. So it'll be king in close combat. Edit :- We've a large fleet Su-30s and Indeed Russian jets are behind in BVR capabilities but it can become WVR beasts. All i would say is IAF knows what they need. Rafale is better but Su-30s are not Obsolete
@@MrShadw-qn5gp Even if Su-30 can get new engine, avionics and AESA radar, all these features can't reduce its huge RCS. Plus it can't beat Rafale in BVR. So as an indian, i also hope Su30MKI has a better future after upgrade, but can't ignore the fact that close combat is going to be a rare situation in upcoming future. All countries are working towards long range missiles and BVR is going to take more than 90% future air-combat warfare.
Amazing Technology! A Passive Radar! IAF is soooo incredibly innovative that they put a large RWR in the Radom. Or maybe defense matrix doesn't understand difference between a Passive electronically scanned array Radar and passive sensors like Heat seekers.
Sukhoi can be upgraded with electronic warfare suit like spectra and also with stealth coating and better missiles then it will rule the sky............
I think rafale wins because it,s modern aircraft. It has better radar ,letest countermajor system, low radar cross section and carry top level missiles.
To, Defence Matrix Media. Sir, thanks to your video for comparison between Su-30 Mki & Rafel. However, india is want's of fighter jets and manufacturing better & lethal for 4th & 5th generation fighter jets. You may kindly initiate to guide for information and procuring strong & Smartest engines ,Like Mig-41 engines which can be flyover 1lakh above fts, So what do you think about it ? Mig-31 or 25 also have quite well and better experience . India can do better and smooth if gained this engines from Russia, So can you help to India for obtaining this engines from Russia. ? Thank you.
Su30mki class have a distinct property at full air to air load its performance is not affected much but Rafale performance at full load degraded sharply.
This is what I love about comment section..so many engineers,Former IAF officers, scientist,missile experts,etc
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The more someone is at higher position the more boundations he becomes have.
Sukhoi was basically built for air superiority while Rafael was built for precision ground attacks while having the ability for air to air combat. Just add R-37M missile and N035 Irbis radar to SU-30MKI and it will become invincible in front of any Rafael
This is just fake news.
The rafale was designed around 5 topics first was air to air. Air to ground is 4th.
Ye baat bhaiii ! Aisi videos mangta hai. This fighter "Versus" this. Alag hee thrill hai 🔥
Didn't skip 1 second very captivating video, explained with simplicity.
After, super Sukhoi upgrade.
1,Astra mk-2 (160+km)
2. Uttam AESA Rader (better then refal)
3. New Electronic.
4. New cockpit
, This time mki could be comparable ❤️
40 million years tak toh ho jana chahiye upgrade 😂
@@L.K.P_😂😂 sahi kaha bhai, iaf ko kadi tapacharya karni hogi ye upgrade pane ke liye. Phir bhagwan drdo prasanna honge our iaf ko ye upgrade ka vardaan denge.
It doesn't have spectra EW and much bigger Radar and IR signature.
@@boejiden7093 sir F35 do na aap do na app do na 🤣
@@L.K.P_ Jaise ki paisa Tum bhar rahe ho aur woh bhi panipuri bech kar.
In within visual range sukhoi is king, in BVR its rafale
Bro rafel is better in both because it can pull 9gs and it has better high off bore side missiles
Yeah in nutshell this is absolutely correct
@@yixinmei5854 bro but Su 30 mki has thrust vectoring nozzle it so it can easily dodge missiles at a close range without using chaff and other counter measures in visual range it’s the king , in bvr Rafael is the better fighter
Wait for super Sukhoi 😎
Yeah Su 30 has trust vectoring engine it can easily escape for enemy missile...
In BVR, Rafale can only carry 2 Meteor BVRAAMs. Thus, in BVR combat, once Su-30MKI dodges 2 Meteors from Rafale, the Rafale will be at the Flanker's mercy. Then it will be 10 longer range BVRAAMs (10 Astra Mk1) on the Su-30MKI vs 8 shorter range BVRAAMs (8 MICA EM + 3 1,390 Kg Fuel Tanks). Once the Astra Mk2 is integrated with the Su-30MKI, the Rafale won't be as dominant in Long-Range BVR combat, as it is now.
I don't know about Indian Rafale or exported versions of Rafale, but French Rafale can carry 5 meteor with single drop tank.
Check your facts
Very good explanation. Love it!!!
Make more non biased video
But su30mki's pilot and wso on 2bd seat gives it added advantage. As WSO could focus on weapons and pilot can focus on flying....with good coordination this combo could be deadly
Superb comparison. Covered lots of points in a very organized way. 👌
Sir as per my understanding I think angle of attack is the angle between cord line of the wing to the relative wind direction. FPV or flight path vector is the assumed or projected position of the aircraft relative to the horizon in vertical path profile or horizontal path profile. It is displayed in primary flight display to help pilot to land in runways
Comparison was so good! Conclusion Sukhoi needs Uttam AESA Radar and more long range A2A missiles similar to Meteor! For rest Rafale is best! 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Definitely Astra mark 2 and 3 is the solution
R37M would be a good long range missile
@@RCLepchaguess we don't operate R37M it's an air to air hypersonic AWACS killer really good missile we always buy weapons which don't make any sense kitna accha mauka hota agar 2019 mein the sukhoi's locking on paki Saab AWACS with an R37M 🤷🏽♂️
@@L.K.P_ Astras are still being tested and further ones are development and yea R37M would have been a good AWACS killer.
@@L.K.P_ baat toh yebhi chal rhi thi ki we can modify brahmos variants into AWACS killer
Very detailed analysis. Though as many pointed out SU-30MKI needs upgrades as most of it's technology is of 2000s standards. Whereas Rafale F3R and F4 are a lot newer.
@@boejiden7093 you're misinformed.
@@boejiden7093 SU-30MKI has several non Russian components including the mission computer, EW pods, helmet sights, towed decoy and more. There's a very detailed analysis of this aircraft on this channel itself. Regarding the whole chips issue it is severely overhyped. This war has proved it. Russia continues to produce more and more weapons despite sanctions. Other countries which over came chip supply issues include Iran who achieved a very successful drone program and North Korea who continues to make better ICBMs every year despite being under sanctions for decades. This proves one of two things either these countries make chips of their own or they have stable methods to smuggle chips out of west.
Great video.. Back to the Matrix special. Want more videos like this.
Good demonstration on the both the Fighter aircrafts of IAF.
Both are great kings of Sky, Rafael and Sukhoi 30 MKI.
No doubt that su 30 mki being an old age fighters still perform good without upgraded to super sukhoi
Still no kills just a showpiece for exercises and world record in crashes lol
@@L.K.P_ it literally dodged an amraam bro 😒😒
@@L.K.P_ it has one of the lowest crash rate btw ,
@@L.K.P_ lol bro check your facts
A powerful AESA (uttam upscaled) radar and meteor class missile will really overcome the rcs disadvantage of the big old flanker.
Nice video bhai👍🔥
During the 1st Airforce day of Rafale(just inducted), I saw Su30 & rafale were using every opportunity to fly together outside their routine. Su30 were following Rafale easily whereas rafale were giving their best to out manuver Su30
True Flankers are really good even without much upgrades
@@L.K.P_ Not all flanker but Su 30 flanker has special maneuver capabilities. Su30 only lacks a good AESA Radar & good BVR WVR missiles & electronic counter measures.
Hello Defense matrix, how much does your own radar emissions play part in giving away your position?
Only two contries can test both types India & Egypt ....but they won't give their conclusion cause its quite bothering for the air forces.....
But Egypt decided to cancel a new SU 30 acquisition and have ordered more Rafale....
CAASTA. like Indo the cancel Su35 to buy F15EX platform or rafael
Su's are inferior
Bhai thank you for this video, kindly do this type of content frequently.
Always knew that Rafael is the better and more potent fighter aircraft between Su-30 mkI and Rafael, but never thought that Rafael will literally own Su-30 mkI with such ease.
If Su-30 is IAF's backbone then it should really upgrade it to another aircraft with Rafael like or more capable aircraft.
Great video by the way. Thankyou ❤
Considering it's a 3 decade old aircraft is still performing very well
@@NamasteTractors True... I think they should focus on Super Sukhoi project more..
one thing you missed about the radars, there is difference between search range and track range.. in this category mki will be the winner since its radar can search upto 400km+. AESA radars usually have less search range.
Sabse acchi baat ye hai ki rafale aur su 30mki dono same team ki taraf se khelte hai❤❤❤
Great explanation & comparison 👍
Excellent technical explanation...my friend. Keep it up.
I LIKE IT 🎉😊
Great episode👍🏼
Will be eagerly waiting if & when you decide to make a comparison between Su-30 MKI Upgrade (Super Sukhoi) and Rafale in future.
I believe Dassault is working on upgrading French Airforce/Navy Rafale fighters to Rafale 4.0 or Rafale 5.0 version which they will probably offer their clients like India too to upgrade their export version Rafales to similar advancements. An episode on the same (ie. what do these upgrades entail?) will be most welcome too.
Love your channel, thank you👍🏼
what about dcmaws on su 30mki
Very good analysis, leave ground attacks for Jaguar & Stealth Bombers.
Just One Qn, What's "Off Bore" ???
Sir yaha apane thrust vector control ko jyada consider nahi kiya hai.
Kiya hai, Dogfights mein Instantaneous turn rate ko discuss karte hue, whain par kaam ayega TVC
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I think because of the higher t/w ratio, su30 mki has better kinetic energy generation. And because of flying wing design it has lesser air drag compared to delta wing rafale. So, within vidual range i think su30mki will dominate..
But after we integrate with aesa, better avionics and mwr, su30's bvr capability will increase significantly. And there were rumours that iaf trying to integrate meteor with its su30. If that happens and after induction of astra mk2, i guess its bvr capability can match with rafale. But main problem will be rcs. If our super sukhoi program again initiated (i lost update if ita still going on or abandoned), its rcs will also reduce. So, we have all the instruments to make our backbone formidable. Lets hope we do
Even in Within visual range sustain turn rate & missiles like Mica & Asram is big factor over Russian missiles.
Amraam Dodger su 💪💪
@@surojeetchatterjee both have nearly same sustained turn rate and hobs capabilities
Sir great info provided by you please make more comparison videos of guns,missiles,Aircraft ,Army combat suit etc.
Beautiful video...waiting for part 2.
In cars its always driver. Is it still same case in fighterplane
Great video ....thanks sir 👍
Sir please bring this type of videos for other aircrafts too , it will be really helpfull
Very nicely explained, good job done
We missed videos like these!!!!
Good analysis
Very detailed video. Good info. Thx
Why do we not make a naval version of su30mki to complete the requirement
And why do we not buy more su30mki as we can see that mrfa is not happening?
Our su 30 have become outdated, IAF needs to hurry regarding its upgradation. It doesn't have missile approach and laser warning system, but Chinese fighters are equipped with these and they also have better radar and avionics compare to oue back bone su 30.
I guess Sukhoi's is our fleet backbone still they lack Aesa Radars 🤦🏽♂️
Rafale is better in bvr as well as within visual range fight. I've experienced this in DCS. Many times, it also dominated f22, which is regarded as the best of the best.
A few years ago during real training the Rafale (old version) had beaten the F-22, which upset the USA enormously.
They tried to hide this fact, but eventually the videos came out and they had to admit that "well ok it happened"
But that doesn't matter, we're all allies👍👍
Can we compare these 2 to Tejas mk2 as well?
@@boejiden7093 we already know almost everything about it. T/ W ratio, radar details, engine details, missile package, payload capacity, range it will carry. The only things left are radar cross section, which we can estimate to be slightly smaller than Rafale, turn radius and angle of attack, which we will get to know as soon as the prototype is tested.
@@DocPrakhar it doesn't matter, the plane itself doesn't exist thus we would be comparing imaginary numbers against real performance numbers of an aircraft. it's stupid, point less and a waste of time
@@RohanSingh-zc4bm have you ever bought a car. Or even a phone? People typically look out for the next model, when it is around the corner for launch to compare if they are getting a good deal. Considering India might have to buy 114 Rafale under MRFA soon (which are great but very expensive), it would be nice knowing about another option in detail, should you choose to wait out the deal for a better one.
Su 30 Upgrade Su 35🫡🙏👍👆🖕☝️🤟✌️👌
Good Analysis
what a great explanation of within visual range dog fight 😯
It doesn't matter which fighter you're flying... It's up to the pilot skills...We can shot down F16 with Mig21... So it completely shows that our pilots are the Best of the Best... Jai Hind🙏😎
Air to air fight:-
Radar : Su-30-0, D.Rafale- 1;
BVR : Su-30-0 , D.Rafale-1;
Within visual range: Su-30-1 ,Rafale-1 ;
Conclusion- Su-30 mki needs huge upgradation with fly by wire sustem, AESA RADAR, BVR missiles, digital display etc, then compare Super Sukhoi to Dassault Rafale.
Su30mki still have chance to dominant air space if we go for Indian payloads and uttam aesa radars .... su30mki ka main role samne aakr airspace ko defense krna air dogfight and attack role me hai
Make a video on Rafale vs J20....
Give Su-30s a SM2 level upgrade & K-77M missile & it'll give Rafale a run for it's money
Su-30MKI was better than Rafale FR1 and perhaps more comparable to Rafale FR2.
Rafale FR3 is simply too much for Su-30MKI unless the MKI is upgraded with Super Sukhoi package.
As of 2024 ...most advanced fighter in the IAF is Rafale, followed by Tejas mk1A and then Su-30MKI
36+114 Rafael and Su-30 into 150 Super Sukhoi is the best option for keeping china at bay .
We really need Indian DCS community.
We want such types of video comparison between iaf aircraft ❤❤❤❤❤
Awesome mind blowing blog
Make a Vedio on J10 CE vs SU 30 MKI in air to air battle
No comparison
@@mangeshchalan8786 why??
I know the category is different but still....
@@F_W_AYMAAN seriously !!! Even j-16 is a cheaper knock-off of Su30 and Su-30mki has unmatched capability among all of it's variants
@@Shivam-kz2dg J10 CE is more superior than SU 30 mki in terms of BVR....
Fantastic topic for discussion.
Much appreciated.
SU or any other soviet aircraft have superior manuverities and agile in nature which is very good in dog fights.
But its a technology of past.
Raffle on the the other hand have lesser RCS with berrer avionics and some stealth features.
But the aviation vision is fast moving forward to Stealth technology.Faster you spot enemy targets and able to lock on to it is the key of success.
Therefore 5+ Generation machines in the only way forward.
I am very sceptical about the AMCA project as DRDO have a great record of 25 years or more average delay.
But our begger neighbours are announcing Chinese stealth fighter inclusion very soon.
So we got to do something very fast to maintain our air superiority in the region ASAP.
Sukhoi rafale se thoda kam hai par emotion jude hai us sey, The Amraam dodger 💪💪
Explain every Indian fighter jet with weapons
Su-30mki doesn't have missile approach warning system?, as per my research Su-30mki has radar warning system (dhruti) and dual colour missile approach warning system
I think absence of LWR, MAWS makes Su 30 mki is weak. Not only that, due to open air intake, engine blades are clearly visible which is very negative for su 30 mki. It can be easily detected with IRST and passive sensors. It has high RCS also.I am curious to know that what are actual possibility of within visual range combat? It's not about only between Su 30 mki and Rafale... But with all F15 ex, F35, eurofighter typhoon, Su 35 and Gripen. By the way, I am interested same comparison with super sukhoi...
Su30mki me aap khud modifications kr skte hai khud ke payloads add kr skte hai but Rafale lags there.....
Sukhoi beast hain to Rafale class hain.🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Within visual range is an obsolete topic in today's era. So the aircraft which can perform only within visual range can be considered obsolete.
I have seen IAF pilots doing Cobra with the SU30 MKI , eastern air command 🔥
compare super su30mki vs rafale f4
Well I saw Round 2 video first .... aur ab mai ye dekh rha hu 😅
Rafale is no doubt excellent fighter, but being old SU30 is still in a league of it's own. If only India gets SU 57 to replace SU30 it's gonna be advantageous to India. Good details in video. ☝️😎
WVR WW1 aur 2 k jamaneh ka tactics tha ab BVR hi chal raha hain. Isiliye Technology Advancement required hain. Fire and Forget technology ko improve karna chaahiye. Countermeasures ko ignore karneh wala system hona chaahiye Missile mein.
Waiting for the Super Sukhoi upgrade. That will make the Sukhoi way more capable then Rafale for the BVR combat.
That thing is huge, imagine how many T/R modules you can fit in it!
A comparison with super Sukhoi will be nice
How can you compare something that's not been built yet?
Can we conclude following ?
In 26th Feb 2019 type scenario: Rafale is going to be preferred choice as attacker due to Omnirole capability.
In 27th Feb 2019 type scenario: Rafale is going to be preferred choice as defender due to great BVR capability.
So if not today, SU30 MKI going to be obsolete in/after next 2-3 years as most battles are going to be BVR ?
Su-30mki has some technology which are Decades old while Rafale F-3 standard is quite new. I think after Super Sukhoi upgrade Su-30 will be better than Rafale F-3
@@MrShadw-qn5gp SU-35 also participated in our earlier MRFA competition and IAF choose Rafale over SU35. Super Sukhoi upgrade is nothing but injecting SU-35 capabilities in SU30MKI. So if Su-35 itself is not chosen over rafale then Super Sukhoi has no chance against rafale.
@@HarshVardhan010783 India also pulled out from FGFA program does this means Su-75 has no chance against Rafale.
Su-30mki can be compared with Rafale F-2 standard. If the Su-30 can get new engine and avionics and AESA radar it can become equivalent to Rafale F-3. Su-30 have highly Frame with 3D thrust vectoring nozzles. So it'll be king in close combat.
Edit :- We've a large fleet Su-30s and Indeed Russian jets are behind in BVR capabilities but it can become WVR beasts. All i would say is IAF knows what they need. Rafale is better but Su-30s are not Obsolete
@@MrShadw-qn5gp Even if Su-30 can get new engine, avionics and AESA radar, all these features can't reduce its huge RCS. Plus it can't beat Rafale in BVR. So as an indian, i also hope Su30MKI has a better future after upgrade, but can't ignore the fact that close combat is going to be a rare situation in upcoming future. All countries are working towards long range missiles and BVR is going to take more than 90% future air-combat warfare.
Yaar mai DCS jaisi fight expect kar rha tha
Sidewinder ko letter likho
Now su 35 vs rafale🙏
SU 35 any day
why cant we upgrade radars and electronic war fare of su 30 mki and make it leathel....
Urgent need to upgrade sukhois and order rafale in mrfa deal.
एयर तो एयर की क्लोज फाइट में मिग 29 का डिज़ाइन बहुत शानदार है
Amazing Technology!
A Passive Radar!
IAF is soooo incredibly innovative that they put a large RWR in the Radom.
Or maybe defense matrix doesn't understand difference between a Passive electronically scanned array Radar and passive sensors like Heat seekers.
What if the Sukhoi get the R37M which is fired from SU35 then how it'll go
Defence matrix channel owner ka name Prashant h kya???
You have, it seems to me, forgotten a decisive factor: The reliability and the predictive maintenance programs of the Rafale.
What about super Sukhoi????
Graphic Demo would have made the video more clear.
Sukhoi can be upgraded with electronic warfare suit like spectra and also with stealth coating and better missiles then it will rule the sky............
Everything is fun and games until you eat a Fox-3 from a Flanker.
Jai hind 🇮🇳
How can they be compared they are not in a same catagory aircraft. Rafael is continuously improving platform so it is good is quite natural
Su 30 needs new AESA radar, Astra Mk1 and Mk2 missiles and maybe R37M
I think rafale wins because it,s modern aircraft. It has better radar ,letest countermajor system, low radar cross section and carry top level missiles.
METEOR MAKES RAFAEL CLEAR WINNER IN BVR ..... BUT IN DOGFIGHT .. SU30 IS UNMATCHED 💪
@@boejiden7093 That would depend on the terrain in which the fight is going on. But this surely is not a fair comparison
@@boejiden7093true in dogfights flankers are scary
Days of dogfights is well in the past. It's like saying we will win in a swordfight but lose if in a gunfight .
@@boejiden7093 Terrain masking exist
To, Defence Matrix Media.
Sir, thanks to your video for comparison between Su-30 Mki & Rafel. However, india is want's of fighter jets and manufacturing better & lethal for 4th & 5th generation fighter jets. You may kindly initiate to guide for information and procuring strong
& Smartest engines ,Like Mig-41 engines which can be flyover 1lakh above fts, So what do you think about it ? Mig-31 or 25 also have quite well and better experience . India can do better and smooth if gained this engines from Russia, So can you help to India for obtaining this engines from Russia. ?
Thank you.
Jai Hind
Su30mki class have a distinct property at full air to air load its performance is not affected much but Rafale performance at full load degraded sharply.
Super sukhoi is need .....