That's because There are ppl who are giving gyan on youtube that since we made Covid Vaccine in 9 months we can make Jet Engines in 9 Months & ppl are giving super chat to these #FakeNews and think its real
Bhai itna h intelligent to khud h develop kr ke de de army ko ....... funding to mil h jayegi teko ........Delhi mein sb tere rishtedaar baithe h .......ja bhai best of luck
@@user-zg6nu6uq4gAbey choti lullu Wale chodumal, we have the right to be angry and disappointed as concerned citizens. Tax bharta hu mai, gussa ata hai Indian uncompetence pe.
6th gen bana lenge? Halwa hai kya? Ab tak 5th gen sahi se nahi bana paye. 2 generation ke beech me 30-40 saal ka gap hota hai minimum But you are right. We should buy 5th gen fighters@@warrior_singh111
@@warrior_singh111Haan! Phir us Rooosi garbage Su-57 ka aachar daalega jab uske saath crap R-77s ayenge. 😹😹😹 114 Rafales ke deal karni chahiye. Khichdi bana rahe hai IAF me. Kabhi idhar se kuch kabhi udhar se kuch. Phir bolenge dekho logistics ka issue aa raha hai. 😂😂
Don't know why, but my intuition says that there was US hand in cancellation of FGFA programme. Su 57 is the answer to delay in all the programs Tejas one a/Tejas Two/AmcA/MRFA / J 20/J31 etc. don't know how long we will keep delaying this.
@@mohammadfaisal874 Rafael already have some 150+ orders from other buyers, even if India decides to buy more Rafaels, France won't deliver them instantly, it would take more or less 5 years.
@@HittlerrrrrYour point is absolutely valid, but USA is not likely to offer us f35 because we operate Russian weapons and specially s400 air defense system and there are so many restrictions like we have to completely rely on USA for weapons of f35 and USA will not fully share advanced technologies because of security concerns. Overall, f35 is better than su57 but for India, su57 is more complete option
@@sreevathsak.j.3807 You are right, but developing the indigenous fighter jet AMCA is a time-consuming process, and we currently lack all the necessary equipment required for a 5th-generation fighter jet. I don't think India will have the AMCA for at least the next 10 years. Our squadron numbers are decreasing, and there is little hope for the MRFA project. As a temporary solution for defensive purposes, we should consider acquiring a 5th-generation fighter jet from either Russia or America. The AMCA is a significant achievement for our country, and I hope we achieve it in the upcoming years 😄
It was a mistake not to make a variant of Tejas with Su 30 MKI engines. It could have been TEDBF as well. Now it seems buying few squadrons of Su-57 may be the answer.
@@JASHVEER22 RD 33 engines are not IAF's favourite but Al41FP engines are powerful and have much lesser complaints. So Su-30MKI engines could have served the purpose. Russia would have given Al41F1 engines as upgrades as well. But now if supply of GE-414 engines keep getting delayed then only IAF has to suffer and the squadron strength is going to keep on depleting.
@@mraganksharma1570 The J-10A and some early production units of J-10B used various iterations of the AL-31FN until it was replaced by the WS-10B. In fact, the AL-31FN variant was specifically developed by Salyut for the J-10. I'm sure they would have done the same for the Tejas if India had wanted. The only reluctance for India to do the same may be that China always planned for their own WS engines to be the intended final engine for their fighters, and the Russian engines were simply stop-gaps until their own engines were ready where as India doesn't really have such plans (at least in the near future), so any engine chosen will likely be the final engine.
Kabhi kabhi lagta h hume FGFA program nhi chhodna chiye tha, khudke systems lagake accha ban jata ye , vese bhi amca me jitne systems indian h vo to hum isme bhi laga sakte the ,baki engine vagera to ab bhi bahar se hi aane h
Don't know why, but my intuition says that there was US hand in cancellation of FGFA programme. Su 57 is the answer to delay in all the programs Tejas one a/Tejas Two/AmcA/MRFA / J 20/J31 etc. don't know how long we will keep delaying this.
Daddy (hal) wants ready to eat meals, mommy ( finance) wants daughter in law ( drdo) to cook at home, son ( airforce) is hungry. The question is who will give up first ( mother or son)
@@sridhardabu true But why we can't even do shopping on time? #MRFA Latka rakha h bsss Jab kabi attack hoga to bajwa lenge thali Ghar ghar m.... Ho jayenge sab motivate.
We can atleast place an order for 2 Sqns of SU-57. If price is the main factor for us and I think this is also the reason we are delaying the MRFA project because of funds. I think SU-57 can be purchased over Rafales that too in more numbers. So even if there's no future of MRFA and IAF is planning to place an additional order for Rafale. I think rather than going for Rafale in limited numbers it's better to invest in the next gen technology which is more advanced, cheaper and more effective. Forget competition or rivalry now as per the current scenario IAF is actually going in the direction of fleet survival mode so it has become a need now.
It's no use. There will be no TOT anymore. India wants to threaten Russia with stopping cooperation, but the Russians are not fooled. Everyone knows that Indians have no place to buy fifth-generation aircraft. So India will buy Su57 at twice the price.
HACI PRODUCTIONS makes one of the best Graphic in this area for example see there F22 raptor videos all the awesome. INDIA NEEDS THESE KINDS OF VIDEOS FOR TEJAS AND PRACHANDS
Indian airforce is incompetent and full of lazy people. India can never catch china in speed, technology, and competency Even Pakistan is ahead of these things when it comes to airforce and planning
We would not be in this situation under Atal ji. He would have gone to any extent to make sure we had the fleet numbers.The current government is too close to the West which is why we are not using Russian engines for Tejas and now at the mercy of GE and America. We would have Su 57s, perhaps Indian made ones, flying over Indian skies.
Uske liye bhi 10 day delay process me rahenge babu government aur airforce ke 😂 Credit should he given to Pakistan's management for fast planning and progress and decision making. They are competent
@@ancientwarrior2374 We won't buy untill WAR starts. It's the same story everytime. We always are LAX when it comes to defending nation. We might be world's 5th largst economy BUT when it comes to weapon purchase I feel we are worse than begger countries. Even smaller countries buys better/faster/quicker...
a Pakistani converted Muslim whose ancestors got trampled over by the same invaders whom they now revere !! Pakistani identity crisis at peak😂@@fraooqkhan2293
I'm warming to the idea, assuming we get a CAATSA waiver. We need a bunch of jets, the Rafale is also getting very expensive and they have years of backlog unlike when they needed the first 36 orders. Many of our Super Sukhoi upgrades would be applicable to it such as giving it world class EW replacing the Russian one. We're going to have a huge gap with China until AMCA otherwise, and even then they'll be 1000 J20s deep and flying their first 6th gen by the time we induct our first AMCA.
We should buy su 57 to counter j20 if we compare su 57 have many flaws but its not that bad how much American youtubers says it is still advance and did decent achievements like shooting down su 27 unnoticed and it's more advance then Rafael in comparison Edit also in 2to 3 years stealth engine for su 57 is gonna be Rady to make it a real stealth fighter like f22 and f35
India should buy su 57 in 2 or 3 squadron numbers util AMCA because it's give a edge and experience to India air force for operating 5th generation platform
Best option for India is to acquire more units of s400 and s500 defense system. (at least 10 units) and acquire 114 rafales through government to government deal with France. The CCS have to approve fundings for indigenous AMCA and TEDBF. We have to complete the 5th gen jet engine with saffron before AMCA prototype comes out i.e., 2030.We should also work on high thrust Kaveri engine with help of Rolls Royce parallelly
Even if the deal for SU57 goes through, it won't be provided soon. The reason is the Ukraine Russia -war- 'Special Military Operation.' Russia needs all the factories to pump their own needs first. Also if there is a 'Make In India' initiative, that also will take time to make special equipment and structure to start the production. So do it fast now.
Please make a video on Rafale Marines engines and their comparison with the kaveri (upgraded) and the potential of kaveri to be outfitted in the TEDBF platform instead of F414s.
Don't know why, but my intuition says that there was US hand in cancellation of FGFA programme. Su 57 is the answer to delay in all the programs Tejas one a/Tejas Two/AmcA/MRFA / J 20/J31 etc. don't know how long we will keep delaying this.
How would SU-57 fitted with upgrades for Super Sukhoi perform? And we can also add tech develped for AMCA. Later it can be upgraded to give good air to ground capability.
Depends if Chinese j-20s are flying with luneberg lenses to obscure their true RCS - as is standard practice for stealth jets from the USA. Typical that Indian babus would arrogantly claim they can see a 5th gen while not having a 5th gen to even understand what peacetime protocols involve. Just supreme confidence in their ignorance.
In next 2 years PLAAF will get almost 220-250 units of J-20A equipped with WS-15 and armed with PL-10/15/20 with already having 250+ units of J-20. Good luck countering that with a squadron or two with half baked SU-57.
Isn't it possible that Tejas can be used for SEAD as it's RCS is low due to its small size and then we can use our mainstay platforms like Su 30 and Rafael?
I think the very reason for delay in MRFA is that SU 57 is still hovering in thoughts India’s defence planners. With some further improvements, 4 squadrons of SU57 is better option than 114 Rafales. We will save money too which can be diverted to LCA and AMCA projects.
India should procure 36 to 40 ..........with condition TOT mew Su-30 mki engines. To make atleast 100-150 super Sukhoi upgradation , that make them relevant till 2050-60.
Wait a second man, there's no way the RCS is close to the F35 and no serious analysis done on it has shown that. The biggest flaw is the lack of S-duct inlets hiding the engine blades, they use radar blockers but that's only as capable as late 4th gen LO, not true stealth. Still, it may be our only option. It's only better on low frequency bands which are not precise enough for a weapons grade track. The F35 is far stealthier in what might kill you.
Even if usa give u f-35,there will be certain clause coming with this deal. For ex say, we can not integrate any nuclear weapon with it, even usa can track us through radar of the aircraft. And also i have heard that every country who bought f-35 has to unlock the aircraft everyday using password,So any day they may lock your aircraft. Even if we ignore all these, you can not ignore the uncertain behavoiur of Usa. They can blackmail you any time. So better if we could go with su-57. Something is more than nothing...
@@Vartik-jr4qr It's not rocket science, there's been computational scatter plots of the shaping of each done. It doesn't account for RAM, but it's not like Russia has any magical RAM the west doesn't.
@@Vartik-jr4qr You know the statement I'm contesting is that it's as stealthy as the F35, right? Which is orders of magnitude lower RCS than the J20 on X-band which is key for weapons grade tracks? The Su-57 seems a bit better on L-band, but that's just enough to tell you it's in the sky, not guide a missile to it.
There is a bill that's introduced in the US Senate to treat India like America's major partners (Israel, Japan)...once this is passed through numbers, i think then the F-35 can be offered to India. But this platform is so much costly to operate and maintain compared to other IAF aircraft, and also a separate ecosystem has to be developed in order to make them run.
AMCA will be much delayed upto 2040 and Su-57 is now a panic buying and forced one move. India has already been pulled out of the project due its deficiencies and now praising the same which is a shame
Don’t think Indian govt takes PAF purchase of J31 seriously because they have a serious logistics issue due to which they cannot support 5th gen infrastructure. Panic buying will be only for the eastern front I’m afraid & we won’t see them for atleast 6-8 yrs under emergency procurement.
By 2045, Dassault will deliver 6 more aircrafts. GE will deliver 5 engines for Tejas MK1 but HAL will need few more years to revive the defunct assembly lines. In the meatime IAF will have 5 squadran strength and India will become VISHWAGUROO.
I think our IAF could look at Su-57, even America operates 2 5th gen platforms, F-22 raptor and F-35 so we could also operate Su-57 and AMCA. If Su-57 is upto the requirement and specifications of what the IAF need, we can consider it seriously perhaps
If the situation continues like this we will only have an airforce on paper 😶India should mainly focus on making it's own jet engine and speeding of the production of indigenous model without waiting for their so called ...model system.
Russia is the only option left for india to fulfill its complete squadrons requirements. The whole aviation industry especially engines at present actually facing the problem of raw material shortage like vanadium and nickel used for engines manufacturing in which Russia and China are the only suppliers in the world. So obviously this simple factor should not be the reason for our indian air defences to become weak before China. China could dominate india using this weakness. We should colloborate with Russia in whatever way possible.
The biggest problem with inducting Su-57 would be its same usability as AMCA , AMCA is also made for Air dominance role which could be seen in the name itself Combact Aircraft similar to Su-57 it is not same as F-35 but decades old F-2. US has F22 to cripple the shortcomings of f35 in air to air combact while neither Russia nor any other country have any other platform for air superiority along with F35 kind of enemy defence suppression roles. The questions we are today raising on Su-57 I doubt might be also raised for AMCA. Russain planes have done at par performance with west in air superiority roles but lak=cked severely in overall comaprison Russian engines are biggest villian for their beautiful aircrafts & similarly the overall package of tech is also not at par with western counterpartts.
but don't you think india opted out of this program due to old jet engine AL-41-F1 used in su 57 and india was not happy with it's stealth features and it'll again buy it ?
The best solution for current indian airforce problem with be procure more SU30 MKI (Super Sukoi) with AL41 Engine that are more reliable that the current AL31 Engines. atleast 120 aircraft as we already operate these aircraft with a mix of Indian , Isreali, French weapons. Until we develop our AMCA. JAI HIND
India should go for Su57 Joint Production and Joint R&D, India had initial purchase Su30MKI and funded its development and late acquisition So in the long it shall help India and Russia jointly and shall Boast India Squadron strength and Going for more Russian shall position India Geo strategic initiative vis a vis China , as Russia is with India at all Time
Just collaborate with the Russians into turning this aircraft into one of the best air-to-air combat platforms in the world. Even if it doesn't surpass the F-22 Raptor it will still end up beating everything else in the air. The AL-51F engine is key for serial production. Stealth can be gradually improved in successive iterations.
Also 5th gen are a nightmare in maintenance and extremely high in operating cost. Only richest countries can maintain a sound fleet of 5th gen. If pakistan goes for it, their economy will be dramatically compromised.
Any Force Multiplier is never effective in standalone mode. One has to build the efficient environment of ISR, Situational Awareness, Matriced / Prioritized Utilization in time, Lethality, Logistics, Integrated Land Air battle procedures, IFF , Redundancy and Role adaptable options and Synergy. All this requires highly integrated skillsets which need to be consistently adapted to accruing battlefield strategic, operational and tactical conditions. Practised course correction and digitised modern threat analyses is a foundational prerequisite. Any State of Art/Science "weapon" used standalone will fail in piecemeal employment.
IAF should purchase no less than 6 squadrons i.e 108 units. Had the original Rafale deal been renegotiated from scratch rather than being cancelled, IAF would have been in a better situation.
Their air force is top notch always. They are fast in decision making, planing and speeding up the progress of weapons Pak airforce was the first one to procure 4 gen f16 in south asia in 1984. They were always ahead in better aircrafts. Their air force is competent and no joke. While indian airforce is slow and lazy with lack of decision making
Replace MRCA deal with 57 additional Rafale and 57 fifth generation su 57 before Indigenous AMCA come in power It will also boost AMCA technology and provide time for making" superior deep penetrate distroyer AMCA" Accompnied by " superior dominent su57 as counter attacking solution for enamies fifth gen fighter"
I had once said, AMCA will be flying by 2035. People called me a troll. It was 2019.
That's because There are ppl who are giving gyan on youtube that since we made Covid Vaccine in 9 months we can make Jet Engines in 9 Months & ppl are giving super chat to these #FakeNews and think its real
Bhai itna h intelligent to khud h develop kr ke de de army ko ....... funding to mil h jayegi teko ........Delhi mein sb tere rishtedaar baithe h .......ja bhai best of luck
Funding ni milegi to 2035 bhi ni karega, the funding for even mk2 started in 2023 itself and amca funding has not been released yet
@@user-zg6nu6uq4gAbey choti lullu Wale chodumal, we have the right to be angry and disappointed as concerned citizens. Tax bharta hu mai, gussa ata hai Indian uncompetence pe.
Even 2035 seems distant.
Ever since India walked out of Su-57 joint production its the same news from Russia pushing India to buy either Su-57 or Su-75
More like India is desperate.
Can't even make a jet since independence.
6th gen bana lenge? Halwa hai kya? Ab tak 5th gen sahi se nahi bana paye. 2 generation ke beech me 30-40 saal ka gap hota hai minimum
But you are right. We should buy 5th gen fighters@@warrior_singh111
@@warrior_singh111Haan! Phir us Rooosi garbage Su-57 ka aachar daalega jab uske saath crap R-77s ayenge. 😹😹😹
114 Rafales ke deal karni chahiye. Khichdi bana rahe hai IAF me. Kabhi idhar se kuch kabhi udhar se kuch. Phir bolenge dekho logistics ka issue aa raha hai. 😂😂
You both are right. India ko kharidna chahiye tha su 57 j20 ko counter karne ke liye.
Don't know why, but my intuition says that there was US hand in cancellation of FGFA programme. Su 57 is the answer to delay in all the programs Tejas one a/Tejas Two/AmcA/MRFA / J 20/J31 etc. don't know how long we will keep delaying this.
Kuch bhi bolo, SU57 dikhta hai ekdam dhasu plane, I just love it😍😍😍
all russian fighter are beauty... especially Sukhoi family
bus dikta hi badiya hai lekin technology kuch khas nahi tabhi india ne backout kiya iss program se
True
Yes russian pkanes a truly "beauty+beast" combined. SU 57 is my all time favorite looker
@@shikharraj404Russia technology share nhi kr raha tha aur Indian specific enhancement nhi kr raha tha to India bhr aagaya
The way chinese engineers are working is commendable
Man I love panic buying
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@@sameer-fk8oy IAF be like : they don't know me son 😈
😂😂😂
Old habits and corruption
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In the end India will panic buy few 5th gen from Russia just like Rafale, Su30, Su 29.
Yeh
Just make media news
And
Mass satisfaction
@@mohammadfaisal874 7.8 B m 36 aa gye the
To 72 18 tk hi ayenge approximately
Correct
@@mohammadfaisal874 Rafael already have some 150+ orders from other buyers, even if India decides to buy more Rafaels, France won't deliver them instantly, it would take more or less 5 years.
India should buy SU-57 untill AMCA arrives inservice
Yes at least 2-3 squadrons are required 😊
No need India must buy F 35 it's only fifth generation fighter available in the world
No India should invest more with domestic programs and speed up production su 57 is not an proper 5th gen aircraft doors for f 35 are closed
@@HittlerrrrrYour point is absolutely valid, but USA is not likely to offer us f35 because we operate Russian weapons and specially s400 air defense system and there are so many restrictions like we have to completely rely on USA for weapons of f35 and USA will not fully share advanced technologies because of security concerns. Overall, f35 is better than su57 but for India, su57 is more complete option
@@sreevathsak.j.3807
You are right, but developing the indigenous fighter jet AMCA is a time-consuming process, and we currently lack all the necessary equipment required for a 5th-generation fighter jet. I don't think India will have the AMCA for at least the next 10 years. Our squadron numbers are decreasing, and there is little hope for the MRFA project. As a temporary solution for defensive purposes, we should consider acquiring a 5th-generation fighter jet from either Russia or America. The AMCA is a significant achievement for our country, and I hope we achieve it in the upcoming years 😄
It was a mistake not to make a variant of Tejas with Su 30 MKI engines. It could have been TEDBF as well. Now it seems buying few squadrons of Su-57 may be the answer.
Using MiG 29K engines would have made more sense. Transition to US platform is dicey move
@@JASHVEER22 RD 33 engines are not IAF's favourite but Al41FP engines are powerful and have much lesser complaints. So Su-30MKI engines could have served the purpose. Russia would have given Al41F1 engines as upgrades as well. But now if supply of GE-414 engines keep getting delayed then only IAF has to suffer and the squadron strength is going to keep on depleting.
su mik engines are not cleared for single engine operations. The company has not given single engine use certification itself.
@@mraganksharma1570 The J-10A and some early production units of J-10B used various iterations of the AL-31FN until it was replaced by the WS-10B. In fact, the AL-31FN variant was specifically developed by Salyut for the J-10.
I'm sure they would have done the same for the Tejas if India had wanted.
The only reluctance for India to do the same may be that China always planned for their own WS engines to be the intended final engine for their fighters, and the Russian engines were simply stop-gaps until their own engines were ready where as India doesn't really have such plans (at least in the near future), so any engine chosen will likely be the final engine.
Kabhi kabhi lagta h hume FGFA program nhi chhodna chiye tha, khudke systems lagake accha ban jata ye , vese bhi amca me jitne systems indian h vo to hum isme bhi laga sakte the ,baki engine vagera to ab bhi bahar se hi aane h
It is a very good and genuine point.
Don't know why, but my intuition says that there was US hand in cancellation of FGFA programme. Su 57 is the answer to delay in all the programs Tejas one a/Tejas Two/AmcA/MRFA / J 20/J31 etc. don't know how long we will keep delaying this.
@@vishalrajyaguru2597 Delay is because of our own incompetence, Lets not blame others...
True. Hum log Su-30MKI ki tarah karna chahiye tham apne systems lagakar engine etc bahar se ya local assembly under license
AMCA 2040 Me aayega jisko v umeed h 2032 ya 35 me aayega wo heart break ke liye taiyar rahe
Ha pata hei
Daddy (hal) wants ready to eat meals, mommy ( finance) wants daughter in law ( drdo) to cook at home, son ( airforce) is hungry.
The question is who will give up first ( mother or son)
Last ever green option
Go to some fancy restaurant
And pay triple for the same food .
@@mradu30singh as long as we don't have semiconductor manufacturing facility and jet engine technology, our inventions can't be kept upto date
@@sridhardabu true
But why we can't even do shopping on time?
#MRFA
Latka rakha h bsss
Jab kabi attack hoga to bajwa lenge thali Ghar ghar m.... Ho jayenge sab motivate.
Son is going to give up first as per my guess
@@mradu30singh because of subsidy and socialist policy, we don't have budget for isro , research, education and defence
We can atleast place an order for 2 Sqns of SU-57. If price is the main factor for us and I think this is also the reason we are delaying the MRFA project because of funds. I think SU-57 can be purchased over Rafales that too in more numbers. So even if there's no future of MRFA and IAF is planning to place an additional order for Rafale. I think rather than going for Rafale in limited numbers it's better to invest in the next gen technology which is more advanced, cheaper and more effective. Forget competition or rivalry now as per the current scenario IAF is actually going in the direction of fleet survival mode so it has become a need now.
Full technology transfer and isme upgrade krne ki parmission k sath milta h to bharat ko ise le lena chahiye.
Even mig21 & mig29 & su30mki didn't get transfer of technology.
There is a high possibility they are NOT going to give TOT .
It's no use. There will be no TOT anymore. India wants to threaten Russia with stopping cooperation, but the Russians are not fooled. Everyone knows that Indians have no place to buy fifth-generation aircraft. So India will buy Su57 at twice the price.
Индия не должна получать технологии. Это ваши мечты, почему вы считаете, что Россия вам всегда должна?
India should go for Su 57 😅
SU-75
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We are not gonna get a 5th gen fighter before GTA6 🗣️🗣️
Panic buying bhi nahi kar payega India. Kyuki order dene ke kitne saal baad milega Su-57.
Don't worry our Airforce is Strong, They can even fight with paper PLANE. We don't need MRFA
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AMCA is only in dreams but in reality AMCA will be coming after 2050 when other country operates 6th generation jets😅
Indian airforce is incompetent and full of lazy people. India can never catch china in speed, technology, and competency
Even Pakistan is ahead of these things when it comes to airforce and planning
USA will be operating 6th gen till end of this decade alongside with China and many nato countries
We are generation behind now
We would not be in this situation under Atal ji. He would have gone to any extent to make sure we had the fleet numbers.The current government is too close to the West which is why we are not using Russian engines for Tejas and now at the mercy of GE and America. We would have Su 57s, perhaps Indian made ones, flying over Indian skies.
India ko Pakistan se JF17 le lena chiye 😂😂😂😂😂
Uske liye bhi 10 day delay process me rahenge babu government aur airforce ke 😂
Credit should he given to Pakistan's management for fast planning and progress and decision making.
They are competent
Su - 57 M in Western Front and F - 35 in Eastern front.
Just my dream😂😅
@@ancientwarrior2374 We won't buy untill WAR starts. It's the same story everytime. We always are LAX when it comes to defending nation.
We might be world's 5th largst economy BUT when it comes to weapon purchase I feel we are worse than begger countries. Even smaller countries buys better/faster/quicker...
Amca in papers
😂😂Yeah naa ha your tejas whcih is 8gen will beat them all don't wory superpowar indian by 2020😂😂
Ghulamjeets day dreaming from last 1000 years while being enslaed on every front 🤣😂
a Pakistani converted Muslim whose ancestors got trampled over by the same invaders whom they now revere !! Pakistani identity crisis at peak😂@@fraooqkhan2293
we definitely need to buy few Su-57 soon😞
Let's trend a Tweet on tweeter to push India to purchase atleast su 57
India should buy 2 squadron of F 35 in emergency.
Dega kon? 😂 America will never give f35 to India who operates S400
Bro usa f35 nato countries ko hi mus kil se detha hai wo hame f35 nahi dega 😅
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I'm warming to the idea, assuming we get a CAATSA waiver. We need a bunch of jets, the Rafale is also getting very expensive and they have years of backlog unlike when they needed the first 36 orders. Many of our Super Sukhoi upgrades would be applicable to it such as giving it world class EW replacing the Russian one. We're going to have a huge gap with China until AMCA otherwise, and even then they'll be 1000 J20s deep and flying their first 6th gen by the time we induct our first AMCA.
We should buy su 57 to counter j20 if we compare su 57 have many flaws but its not that bad how much American youtubers says it is still advance and did decent achievements like shooting down su 27 unnoticed and it's more advance then Rafael in comparison Edit also in 2to 3 years stealth engine for su 57 is gonna be Rady to make it a real stealth fighter like f22 and f35
India should buy su 57 in 2 or 3 squadron numbers util AMCA because it's give a edge and experience to India air force for operating 5th generation platform
India should have combined package of su57+su75
There is no other option
When I saw Chinese j20 perform , we realised wtf 😮,it was too good
Best option for India is to acquire more units of s400 and s500 defense system. (at least 10 units) and acquire 114 rafales through government to government deal with France. The CCS have to approve fundings for indigenous AMCA and TEDBF. We have to complete the 5th gen jet engine with saffron before AMCA prototype comes out i.e., 2030.We should also work on high thrust Kaveri engine with help of Rolls Royce parallelly
Admin salute to you on your hard work, respect from Pakistan, excellent 👏
Even if the deal for SU57 goes through, it won't be provided soon. The reason is the Ukraine Russia -war- 'Special Military Operation.' Russia needs all the factories to pump their own needs first. Also if there is a 'Make In India' initiative, that also will take time to make special equipment and structure to start the production. So do it fast now.
Yes we much go with SU-57 at this point of time and induct 114 in numbers, ni need of MRFA then.. And moreover it will be made in 🇮🇳🇮🇳
I think we can acquire 2 squadrons of Su-57.
Fund kahan pe hai??? HAL requested budget for AMCA in 2023, there is no action by government, aur tum SU-57 kharid lo jo 2026 mein deliver hoga 😂
Please make a video on Rafale Marines engines and their comparison with the kaveri (upgraded) and the potential of kaveri to be outfitted in the TEDBF platform instead of F414s.
Don't know why, but my intuition says that there was US hand in cancellation of FGFA programme. Su 57 is the answer to delay in all the programs Tejas one a/Tejas Two/AmcA/MRFA / J 20/J31 etc. don't know how long we will keep delaying this.
At the moment we don’t have the required tech to develop a 5th gen fighter, so it’s better to rely on imported fighters until we build our own tech.
India should go for at least 2 squadron of SU 57
How would SU-57 fitted with upgrades for Super Sukhoi perform? And we can also add tech develped for AMCA. Later it can be upgraded to give good air to ground capability.
We should proceed on SU 57 in current scenario.Although U.S have top notch fighter aircrafts but we simply can not trust Americans.
Su 57 with support aircraft su 30 mki
@@OptiMus_PrimE...ppak is missile ka bhi ho gya tha
If this is the one and only option then I LOVE THIS OPTION. 😍😍
Given the production push to provide RuAF with Su-57s, don't think the Russians can entertain export customers as long as the Ukraine conflict is hot.
We are 14 squadrons shy, and we already have the Sukhoi ecosystem; therefore, it is better for India to opt for Su 57.
MKI can detect chinese 5th gens... Recent report .
Tejas MK1A - Atleast 4 in next year.
TEDBF - ?
AMCA - ?
MRFA - Never.
2038 - Prediction please.
Depends if Chinese j-20s are flying with luneberg lenses to obscure their true RCS - as is standard practice for stealth jets from the USA. Typical that Indian babus would arrogantly claim they can see a 5th gen while not having a 5th gen to even understand what peacetime protocols involve. Just supreme confidence in their ignorance.
Read some unconfirmed reports that india already ordered some su57 during modi's visit in russia.
Mazzaa aa gya ❤
I think we should go for Su 57 Before Pakistan get J 31
Very good video
Please make more such sort of videos
India should concentrate on Puspak Vimaan.
In next 2 years PLAAF will get almost 220-250 units of J-20A equipped with WS-15 and armed with PL-10/15/20 with already having 250+ units of J-20. Good luck countering that with a squadron or two with half baked SU-57.
Isn't it possible that Tejas can be used for SEAD as it's RCS is low due to its small size and then we can use our mainstay platforms like Su 30 and Rafael?
Bhay kitni baar same topic py video banoge 😂😂😂😂
Aur content hi kaha se ayega bhai....baki desh, turkey, korea, apne prototypes to dikha rhi atleast...idhar bas khayali pulao.
Su 57 is a stealth killer jet not a stealth jet
I think the very reason for delay in MRFA is that SU 57 is still hovering in thoughts India’s defence planners. With some further improvements, 4 squadrons of SU57 is better option than 114 Rafales. We will save money too which can be diverted to LCA and AMCA projects.
Indian experience is within Rafael +Sukhoi realm, combining with value for money , I feel sorry for Americans.
Sir, Major Gaurav said that IAF needs a lot of new Aircraft urgently.
180+ New orders for Rafaels.
100 F-35As.
Jokar hai wo
Panic buying is what India will go for and pay a hefty amount.
India should procure 36 to 40 ..........with condition TOT mew Su-30 mki engines. To make atleast 100-150 super Sukhoi upgradation , that make them relevant till 2050-60.
IAF should procure at least 4 squadrons of S57 from Russia. Best cost-effective stop gap measure against our adversaries
Wait a second man, there's no way the RCS is close to the F35 and no serious analysis done on it has shown that. The biggest flaw is the lack of S-duct inlets hiding the engine blades, they use radar blockers but that's only as capable as late 4th gen LO, not true stealth. Still, it may be our only option. It's only better on low frequency bands which are not precise enough for a weapons grade track. The F35 is far stealthier in what might kill you.
Even if usa give u f-35,there will be certain clause coming with this deal. For ex say, we can not integrate any nuclear weapon with it, even usa can track us through radar of the aircraft. And also i have heard that every country who bought f-35 has to unlock the aircraft everyday using password,So any day they may lock your aircraft.
Even if we ignore all these, you can not ignore the uncertain behavoiur of Usa. They can blackmail you any time. So better if we could go with su-57.
Something is more than nothing...
It has improved it's RCS in Su57M model. Where they have introduced RAM coated Inlet covers which improves it's RCS and brings it as per F35
@@Vartik-jr4qr It's not rocket science, there's been computational scatter plots of the shaping of each done. It doesn't account for RAM, but it's not like Russia has any magical RAM the west doesn't.
@@Vartik-jr4qr Bhai it's computational software you can use yourself if you have any technical competence, not "models made randomly by the US"
@@Vartik-jr4qr You know the statement I'm contesting is that it's as stealthy as the F35, right? Which is orders of magnitude lower RCS than the J20 on X-band which is key for weapons grade tracks? The Su-57 seems a bit better on L-band, but that's just enough to tell you it's in the sky, not guide a missile to it.
There is a bill that's introduced in the US Senate to treat India like America's major partners (Israel, Japan)...once this is passed through numbers, i think then the F-35 can be offered to India. But this platform is so much costly to operate and maintain compared to other IAF aircraft, and also a separate ecosystem has to be developed in order to make them run.
why you are not covering ex dgp report on infiltration of pak ssg soldiers in Jammu🤔🤔🤔
AMCA will be much delayed upto 2040 and Su-57 is now a panic buying and forced one move.
India has already been pulled out of the project due its deficiencies and now praising the same which is a shame
Don’t think Indian govt takes PAF purchase of J31 seriously because they have a serious logistics issue due to which they cannot support 5th gen infrastructure. Panic buying will be only for the eastern front I’m afraid & we won’t see them for atleast 6-8 yrs under emergency procurement.
India should buy atleast 2 squadrons of SU 57 immediately
PAF is getting J-31s by 2026 and a total of 100+ J-31s by 2030 in PAF to replace F-16s.
Tfx kaan👁
Also kaan as well
not possible before 2027
By 2045, Dassault will deliver 6 more aircrafts. GE will deliver 5 engines for Tejas MK1 but HAL will need few more years to revive the defunct assembly lines. In the meatime IAF will have 5 squadran strength and India will become VISHWAGUROO.
Abhi 2.8 mins hua hai video ka...
Ab main ye kehe raha hu ki Russia ko full help karenge but critical se critical tot chahiye...😂😂😂
I think our IAF could look at Su-57, even America operates 2 5th gen platforms, F-22 raptor and F-35 so we could also operate Su-57 and AMCA. If Su-57 is upto the requirement and specifications of what the IAF need, we can consider it seriously perhaps
If the situation continues like this we will only have an airforce on paper 😶India should mainly focus on making it's own jet engine and speeding of the production of indigenous model without waiting for their so called ...model system.
Sir mera ek sawal he...
Kya ham 5th gen ke khilaf 5th gen use karenge?
Russia is the only option left for india to fulfill its complete squadrons requirements. The whole aviation industry especially engines at present actually facing the problem of raw material shortage like vanadium and nickel used for engines manufacturing in which Russia and China are the only suppliers in the world. So obviously this simple factor should not be the reason for our indian air defences to become weak before China. China could dominate india using this weakness. We should colloborate with Russia in whatever way possible.
Wow thats the great video from you
Why not try at least at limited numbers, say 36 as a transition to AMCA. As for F-35 even if we are offered, the operating cost is too high.
The biggest problem with inducting Su-57 would be its same usability as AMCA , AMCA is also made for Air dominance role which could be seen in the name itself Combact Aircraft similar to Su-57 it is not same as F-35 but decades old F-2. US has F22 to cripple the shortcomings of f35 in air to air combact while neither Russia nor any other country have any other platform for air superiority along with F35 kind of enemy defence suppression roles. The questions we are today raising on Su-57 I doubt might be also raised for AMCA. Russain planes have done at par performance with west in air superiority roles but lak=cked severely in overall comaprison Russian engines are biggest villian for their beautiful aircrafts & similarly the overall package of tech is also not at par with western counterpartts.
2 Squadrons of SU-57 will give some relief to our Legendary Air Force as they can't take Decision on MRFA, Tejas MK-2 and AMCA are delayed.
Instead of manufacturing 12 SU 30 fighters for 24000 crores
India can buy 12 SU 57 or SU 75 with TOT
but don't you think india opted out of this program due to old jet engine AL-41-F1 used in su 57 and india was not happy with it's stealth features and it'll again buy it ?
The best solution for current indian airforce problem with be procure more SU30 MKI (Super Sukoi) with AL41 Engine that are more reliable that the current AL31 Engines. atleast 120 aircraft as we already operate these aircraft with a mix of Indian , Isreali, French weapons.
Until we develop our AMCA.
JAI HIND
India should go for Su57 Joint Production and Joint R&D, India had initial purchase Su30MKI and funded its development and late acquisition
So in the long it shall help India and Russia jointly and shall Boast India Squadron strength and Going for more Russian shall position India Geo strategic initiative vis a vis China , as Russia is with India at all Time
What about peaceful agreement between China and India which Russian media is saying
Just collaborate with the Russians into turning this aircraft into one of the best air-to-air combat platforms in the world. Even if it doesn't surpass the F-22 Raptor it will still end up beating everything else in the air.
The AL-51F engine is key for serial production. Stealth can be gradually improved in successive iterations.
Also 5th gen are a nightmare in maintenance and extremely high in operating cost. Only richest countries can maintain a sound fleet of 5th gen. If pakistan goes for it, their economy will be dramatically compromised.
IAF should consider 50 Su57M and 50 Rafale F4.2 by forgoing 114 mmrca 2.0, it will give IAF some edge till AMCA started to come in 2032-34
India already kuch payment kar rakha tha iske development k liye. Uska use kar k kuch procure kar sakte hai na testing k liye?
How about su 75?can it be considered?
Any Force Multiplier is never effective in standalone mode. One has to build the efficient environment of ISR, Situational Awareness, Matriced / Prioritized Utilization in time, Lethality, Logistics, Integrated Land Air battle procedures, IFF , Redundancy and Role adaptable options and Synergy. All this requires highly integrated skillsets which need to be consistently adapted to accruing battlefield strategic, operational and tactical conditions. Practised course correction and digitised modern threat analyses is a foundational prerequisite. Any State of Art/Science "weapon" used standalone will fail in piecemeal employment.
What is the difference between the older OLS 30 with this new 101 KS-V
IAF should purchase no less than 6 squadrons i.e 108 units. Had the original Rafale deal been renegotiated from scratch rather than being cancelled, IAF would have been in a better situation.
Al51f has completed all its tests and is ready for induction
Su-57 ...Russia can't even make enough for themselves
Pakistan will get early 5 gen fighter than india.
Their air force is top notch always.
They are fast in decision making, planing and speeding up the progress of weapons
Pak airforce was the first one to procure 4 gen f16 in south asia in 1984.
They were always ahead in better aircrafts.
Their air force is competent and no joke.
While indian airforce is slow and lazy with lack of decision making
Pure outcome of lala dependency...
After
Finance Ministery and Railway Ministery... Defence Ministery will be doomed.
Didn't you guys abandon the plan of procuring this 1?
I think Su-57 cannot compete with J-20 or even J-35. But there will be peace and fair trade between them. They have no reason to fight.
Didn't India already reject the Su-57 as part of the FGFA program?
It can counter but India is not going to buy it for sure.
Replace MRCA deal with 57 additional Rafale and 57 fifth generation su 57 before Indigenous AMCA come in power
It will also boost AMCA technology and provide time for making" superior deep penetrate distroyer AMCA"
Accompnied by " superior dominent su57 as counter attacking solution for enamies fifth gen fighter"