How Can an Old Hollywood Lighting Technique Help You Today?
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Butterfly, or Paramount Lighting, refers to the position of a light source placed in front and above of a character or subject, in such a position to cast a butterfly-shaped shadow under the nose. Used in the Golden Age of Hollywood for studio portraits and even favoured by certain actresses in movies themselves, the butterfly light slims the face and accentuates the jaw.
Move the light a little higher and the face might appear too shadowy, with facial features obscured - move the light a little lower and the face might appear too flat. The butterfly light satisfies that middle ground between mood and visibility - and as a bonus, it's a top light - which means it can be used in many situations where we subconsciously expect there to be light coming from above the frame - even when we can't see it in the scene.
This is just one aspect of what can contribute toward a cinematic feeling - check out the other episodes in the Lighting for Cinema A - Z series to learn more about what makes cinema feel a certain way:
• Lighting for Cinema A - Z
Lenses:
Samyang 14mm t/3.1 VDSLR MK2
Samyang 24mm t/1.5 VDSLR MK2
Samyang 35mm t/1.5 VDSLR MK2
Samyang 50mm t/1.5 VDSLR MK2
Cameras:
Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K Pro
Panasonic Lumix S5 (BTS)
Lights used in the video:
Nanlite Forza 60C
Nanlite Pavobulb 10C
Video Contents:
0:00 From Old to New
0:53 Butterfly, or Paramount Lighting
2:12 Old Hollywood vs The Modern Day
3:57 Inspiration for the Scene with Flim/Sponsor
5:06 Why is Butterfly Lighting Useful?
5:58 How We Lit the Scene
7:28 The Importance of the Learning Process
7:47 Recreating Daylight - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Butterfly, or Paramount Lighting, refers to the position of a light source placed in front and above of a character or subject, in such a position to cast a butterfly-shaped shadow under the nose. Used in the Golden Age of Hollywood for studio portraits and even favoured by certain actresses in movies themselves, the butterfly light slims the face and accentuates the jaw.
Move the light a little higher and the face might appear too shadowy, with facial features obscured - move the light a little lower and the face might appear too flat. The butterfly light satisfies that middle ground between mood and visibility - and as a bonus, it's a top light - which means it can be used in many situations where we subconsciously expect there to be light coming from above the frame - even when we can't see it in the scene.
This is just one aspect of what can contribute toward a cinematic feeling - check out the other episodes in the Lighting for Cinema A - Z series to learn more about what makes cinema feel a certain way:
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Very happy you think so - thank you so much!! Hope you enjoyed this one! :)
0:35 that sound design!! brilliant!
daaamn that was refreshing to see you talking on a video haha
Haha happy to hear it - attempting to speed up some of my workflow, so currently thinking of ways to creatively implement the narration in the video itself. So more to come!
@@RobEllisCinematographerBrilliant! You did it, haha🥳💪🏽💪🏽
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Haha I would always appreciate that level of excitement for a new video! 🤣
Oh my God, one of the best cinematographers on TH-cam and it's not even close. That intro gave me chills man!
Wow thank you Joshua, that means a lot! Massively appreciate it!! :)
Wow just wow!!! This is super amazing man!! Thanks for sharing with us!❤
That intro was so good. Loved where you transitioned from radio voice to you talking on camera. Very well done!
I appreciate it, thank you! I’m not an audio expert but it was a fun thing to mess around with!
I love your videos and how you focus on the importance on lights! Also that you always light a scene to mood, rather than many photographers who focus on trying to get the whites look as white as possible!
Thank you so much Daniel! Super happy you’re enjoying my videos! :)
The transition to modern at 0:37, wow!! Topnotch video as always!
Thank you so much - I wasn't expecting it to look as smooth as it did, so I'm pretty happy with it! I appreciate it Reagan!
I went on a studio tour of Paramount Studios 2 months ago and was introduced to the amazing photographer George Hurrell. He popularized this technique back in older Hollywood times and his photography is absolutely amazing. I thought the very same thing when I was looking through his photo books on how to translate this to my own photography and videos. Amazing video!!!
Very happy you enjoyed the video and glad I could further help your thought process on it! And very jealous of your Paramount Studios tour - I’d love to get over there one day and learn more about the history of everything, I’ve always had a fascination with Hollywood, warts and all!
Valuable Cinematography Learnings! Thank you Rob.
Always appreciated - thank you! :)
Dear brother, there are many people from the CIS countries, including Russia and Kazakhstan, who are watching your content. It would be great if you could provide a course with private access via a TH-cam link, so that they could access it easily. In Russia, the browser has a built-in translation tool, which would make it easier for them to understand your content.
KEEP EM COMING ROB!
Will do! 😄
Love your channel man🎥
Hitchcock's "Rear Window" first came to mind when I saw this. Hard stage lighting like they used in the olden days is a lost art. There's a great article about the lighting for that film in American Cinematographer.
Very happy it made you think of Rear Window! When we lit the old style shot, we both agreed it was more creatively satisfying to see played back than any "modern" shot we've set up recently - it's was like lighting for a film, rather than lighting for a recreation of reality in a film - if that makes sense. I enjoyed it massively! I'll have to hunt down the AC article!
What a wonderful video to teach. Thank you!
I hope you found it useful in some way - thank you for your kind words! :)
YEAAH HE IS BACK 👌
Woo! Hope you enjoyed this one! :)
The new video style you were talking about is so great. The prompter is a game-changer! Amazing and incredibly helpful as always Rob!
Thank you so much! It's going to evolve a little beyond this, so more to come! :D always happy to hear it, hope you continue to find the videos useful! :)
You are getting more interesting and creative!
Thank you so much, happy to hear that - a few more changes to come! :)
Amazing video! Thank you for the clear explanation!
Glad you enjoyed it - thank you! :)
I friggin love this video! I like the change up of editing style. Also, gave me chills actually watching you speak!
I appreciate it massively and I'm glad you're liking the presentation changes! The plan is do more than just those just little bits in future, so plenty more to come!
This is incredible, thank you!!
Happy you enjoyed it/found it useful - thank you so much! :)
Nevermind the great lighting breakdowns, I just absolutely LOVE the vibe of these videos! 🤙
Thank you so much Steve!!
Amazing video! Straight to the point and with a captivating start that had me hooked until the end!
Very happy you enjoyed it - thank you so much! :)
Again awesome. Thank you for your work. ❤
And thank you for your kind words! Happy you're enjoying my videos! ❤️
This series just keeps getting Better and Better my Friend😎🤟
Extremely happy to hear it - thank you so much! :) I hope you can continue to enjoy it!
Another great video, man!
Thank you so much man! Glad you enjoyed this one! :)
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Wooo! Thanks Sean!
This is sooooo Scott!!!! ❤️
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As always another video of top quality, thanks Rob!
Glad you enjoyed this one! Thank you so much! :)
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Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks John, happy you enjoyed this one! :)
Yo that intro was smooth af. Love your content
Thank you so much!! I was actually worried the idea wouldn’t translate well to the screen but it worked out much smoother than I expected so I’m well happy with it haha!
Thank you I’ve really learned a lot from your videos, this one is super cool🌞
Happy to hear it and I hope you can continue to find my videos useful - thank you so much! 🌞
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Too kind - thank you so much!
Great piece of info. Thanks.
Happy it was useful - thank you!!
Missed your videos Rob, thanks for another great one!
Always appreciated, thank you so much! Currently trying to figure out a way to speed the production of these videos up a little (without losing the important info) so hopefully you won't have to wait so long next time!
No pressure! It's always a good day when a Rob Ellis video drops.@@RobEllisCinematographer
The best intro i've seen!!!
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!!
Top tier lesson. Thank you. Subbed.
Super happy you enjoyed it/found it useful - thank you so much for your support!
Freaking loved it! Butterfly lighting will be something I will look into for pencil and ink rendered art work especially to capture that "moody but not too moody" look as you said. I greatly appreciate how you and your henchman showed us the process and different lights and placement of them to get the final look. Been waiting for this new video with high anticipation. Seeing you actually speak gave me a bit of weird closure kinda like putting a face to the name of someone you only heard. Well done Rob.
Are you actually drinking whiskey in this video?
Very happy someone who isn’t necessarily a cinematographer/photographer is finding a video of mine helpful, that’s awesome! And I’m glad the speaking wasn’t too much of a shock haha! It’s just tea, which is apparently what is generally used in film - we forgot the ice cubes though, so it didn’t taste great at room temperature haha!
I can always depend on Rob to give me a good grimace.
Haha happy to provide it!
I've been interested in finding situations where I can utilize older or non traditional lighting to light a scene, great job making a video on a technique most newer cinematographers aren't familiar with.
Glad I could help - thank you! It's definitely super useful to know and understand these lighting patterns in a little more detail, so they can be utilised in a way to form a more cohesive feeling and/or narrative in an image - just going back over things like this has actually helped me understand a lot more too!
this is very helpful for my work, thank you!
Amazing to hear that and glad I could help! :)
I keep learning a lot from you! Thanks! Regards from Hungary!
Very happy to hear that - I appreciate it massively! Greetings from the UK! :)
When I first saw a video from you channel I thought the guy in the video was an actor helping you for the video making, then I found out that it was you behind all! Nice! By that I can say you establish more the connection with your audience! Keep it up and keep inspiring us all! Thank you!!!!
Haha yes it's me! I was a bit worried about ruining the mystery, since I've been doing these videos for nearly 4 years now, but it's probably about time I changed it up, especially since I'm trying to streamline the editing process. So I'm happy it's being received well, thank you so much!
You’re goated bro lol. Love your videos
Always appreciate it man, I’m happy you’re still enjoying them!
I've been checking up on the channel waiting for a new video to come out. Haven't clicked a video faster than this in a while
Apologies for the wait and I hope you enjoyed this one!! :)
I've been watching Ron's videos so long that seeing him talk is jarring. 😂
Haha it was jarring for me to watch back! 🤣
This one was real good.
Happy you enjoyed it - thank you! :)
Very good video!
Thanks Owen!!
Your videos are honestly so informative 👏 I was wondering if you could... if you haven't already, do a Dehancer colour grading tutorial in DaVinci?
1:21 Much better audio! Glad you got that fixed
Excellent, happy to hear it (literally) - I had a little mess around and utilised some of your advice, thank you so much for that! Just need to update the Patreon version!
The intro was CRAZY
Thank you so much! It turned out a lot smoother than I thought it would haha!
I don't know much about lighting, but I love to learn about movie craft. Great source and great explanation.
Always super happy to hear someone has enjoyed a video of mine regardless of previous lighting experience - it’s a huge compliment, thank you so much!
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They certainly are! ❤️ Hope you enjoyed this one! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer definitely! The transition from black and white to color with the room changing in mood was genius. Time travel transition,love it.
Amazing video!👍🏻
View to like ratio is out of this world👊
I don't know what a good ratio is haha! But I'll take your word for it! Thank you so much!
Great video! Not saying this to be a smart-arse but in the spirit of telling a mate they have food in their beard! Dietrich is pronounced more like “Dee-trick”
Haha no not at all - I tried to find the pronunciation to ensure accuracy and went with the first one I found, which wasn’t a very accurate thing to do at all 🤣 I appreciate it, thank you for letting me know!
It was pretty shocking seeing you talking directly, haha. You've became this mysterious figure over time. Impressive lighting technique explained perfectly by the master of light. 👏😉
Haha I was just replying to another comment, mentioning I was a bit worried about ruining the mystery, but this will ultimately make things smoother for me in the edit - the bonus being that I can get a bit more creative with it this way! Thanks Bo, I always appreciate your kind words!
@@RobEllisCinematographer We eat whatever you throw at us and it always tastes good! I'm at Muscat International Film Festival this week competing with short documentary films, wish me luck😆
@@Bo_Hazemthat’s awesome, good luck my friend!! I hope it goes well!
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thanks! I bottled it.🤣 But was my first attempt ever and being nominated is good and got to know plenty of great people.😁
Thanks for this video! Ever since BSC Expo with the "evolution of lighting" panel I've been wondering whether the old styles of lighting designed for 32 ASA cameras still have a place being replicated and built off of for the modern day.
Very glad I could provide something you were looking for and I’m happy you enjoyed it! It sounds like that panel was an interesting one!
I'm always waiting for your new videos like a fix :D
Haha I’m happy you’re enjoying them so much - thank you so much! :)
Love your work and your breakdowns Rob! I was wondering if you could describe the boomed lantern rig for the external street scene? What light, boom pole, power solution are you using? I’ve been wanting to build one of these for a while and that yours looked great!
Thank you so much, happy you're enjoying them! That was a Nanlite Forza 60C with NPF battery grip, in a Nanlite FMM 60 lantern softbox - however, the "boom" was actually just a light stand, which was a little awkward to hold - so I can't recommend that method haha. I would recommend a more specialised boom that can take the (lighter) weight of that setup!
Nice!
Thank you!
First comment! Always look forward to a new video from Rob!
Thank you Matt, hope you enjoyed this one! :)
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Appreciate it - hope you're enjoying/find the videos useful!
top notch as always! could you add what softbox and arm you used in 5:20?
I say boom, but it was actually just a light stand raised up a bit - it was a little awkward, wouldn’t recommend, hence referring to it as a boom 🤣 the softbox is the Nanlite FMM 60 lantern softbox, with a Forza 60C inside (with NPF battery attachment)!
Best TH-cam cinematographer out there. Good stuff man. Quick question: what WB do you use when using those 3200K lights? 7:27
Thank you so much!! I believe the camera was around 4000K for a little warmth, but I also introduced some cooler tones into the shadows!
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Amazing work as always. Any tips for the what color grading you did to get the old timey black and white image?
Thanks Chris! That's Dehancer emulating Kodak Eastman Double X - with grain and bloom :) edit: also gate weave, film breath an a couple of scratches!!
Awesome thanks!@@RobEllisCinematographer
dang the first time i've seen you talk!
More of that coming - I can get a bit more creative with the videos and it makes the edit way more efficient!
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Curious to how you are able to achieve the subtle shake of the video with the b&w film look. Something I have been unsuccessful in. Also fantastic video thank you for making this.
All the film emulation is in Dehancer - they have a gate weave option to emulate the subtle movement of the film as it passes through camera/projector!
The walking down the street shot looked really nice did you use your color meter to dial in the 60c?
That was just by eye - tweaked the colour temperature until it looked somewhat blended with the environment. You can see how green the actual street lights looked in comparison on his hair!
you are best
Thank you so much!
Great work! At 7:28 when you mention the color temp for the lights being 3200k, what was the camera's white balance set to?
Thank you so much! It was around 4000k to keep things a touch warmer, but I added a further touch of warmth to the mids and a bit of cool to the shadows in post!
Any thoughts on newwer 660 rgb led pannels i thought of buying the gemini pannel but that was way out of budget
People really need to learn about more cinematographers than just Roger Deakins. Everything looks the same nowadays
I think being inspired by a particular artist is a lot of people’s starting point in art, but eventually you develop your own look through a wide array of influences - it’s a natural progression that can exist throughout all creative practises!
It makes me wonder... I wonder how much of the old school look is essentially a product of recreating the look of giant flashbulbs mounted above an old press photo camera.
I guess that was probably a logical thinking process when it came to lighting film in the early days!
i thought that was an actor you used in your videos, not you 🤯🤯
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I did not expect your voice to sound like that. I thought you would sound more like a cowboy!
Haha I hope it wasn’t too disappointing, I’d much rather sound like a cowboy!
He has a face! Yay! 😁😉
Haha you’ve been looking at it this whole time! 😀
@@RobEllisCinematographer I just didn't know. 😁🤷
Do you have more material,either old old book of OLD FILMMAKING TECHNIQUE ?
Unfortunately nothing I can recommend, but I'm sure there are lots of them!
@@RobEllisCinematographer I will reach then, thanks for answering. And thanks for all your good content. Greetings from Mexico City. Saludos
How did you get that film like contrasty black and white look? Lighting or filters? Most B & W movies now are more greyish
The lighting helps toward it as described in the video, but the colour grade was done in Dehancer - it’s an emulation of Kodak Eastman Double X film, with film grain and bloom added, along with gate weave (the emulation of the movement of the film as it passes through the camera/projector) and film breath (exposure and contrast changes between frames of film)
what brand is your boom arm that is used?
It's from Essential Photo in the UK, a Pixapro - www.essentialphoto.co.uk/products/pixapro-super-heavy-duty-120-220cm-stainless-steel-boom-arm-with-sand-bag - I'm not sure if they have an equivalent brand overseas though!
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was never sure if he used another model or himself lol
I’ve ruined the mystery haha!
But how did you get the effect at 0:52 where the light turns on and your face is lit with a completely dark background?????????????
Black background, grid on softbox :) that was also with a Pavoslim 120C from above!
What temperture was the camera on? Thanks
It was around 4000k to keep things a touch warmer, but I added a further touch of warmth to the mids and a bit of cool to the shadows in post
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thanks man. Love your video's! Keep up the good work!
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What does this mean?! 🤣
My girlfriend was helping me set up lighting for a scene and I asked her to set up a hair light for me like in the Rob Ellis video.
She said, "Who?".
I broke up with her.
Hahaha I wish I could give awards to the funniest comments! 🤣🤣
They also had hairlight, as you can see very visibly @2:49.
Indeed, but I've already made a video on hair light in this series haha - so the focus is on butterfly/paramount!
@@RobEllisCinematographer Ah! Hollywood had both;)
I would like to see more stylized lighting in movies. Going for realism is so boring.
Trends tend to shift over time so maybe stylized will become the norm at some point in the future!
Wow I didn't think that was your voice, now it seems obvious
It is indeed! A little more well spoken than my off camera voice though haha
"Telling a story with contemporary themes requires contemporary lighting." I couldn't disagree more with this sentiment.
Maybe “benefits from” would have been a better term than “requires” - but let’s talk about it, I’m curious to know your thoughts!
@@RobEllisCinematographer That's fair. And I just feel like too many people take these kind of notions as "rules" when they hear them. Also I think filmmaking, and media in general, is becoming too intertextual as a whole. This idea that certain types of films or films of certain themes have to have certain types of looks to signify what kind of film they are (ie. they need to look like similar films).
@@CharmingNewSociety Absolutely, and I don't take the fact that I'm an "influencer" lightly (I also hate that term because of the negative connotations attached haha) I'm very aware of bigger channels than mine doling out incorrect information/rules as fact - and I always strive to research, test and be able to back things up, so that I can try as best as I can to not be a part of the spreading of misinformation - or just as importantly, and probably more relevant to this conversation, the hampering of creativity and the freedom of art and expression. It's all a balance between rules and intent and creative expression, and that can be difficult to convey in a relatively straight forward 8 minute tutorial! But I think we're on the same page in regards to the visual language of a film and that it can be so much more than just a derivative look signifying a theme - but understanding the base reasoning as to why a look might subconsciously emphasise certain feelings and to build on it from there with your own creative reasoning, is kind of what I try to explain in these videos. Sorry for the long essay to explain that yes, I agree with you! Haha!
c'mon man it's pronounced Marlene Dee-trich.