Cody Rhodes SHOOTS On THAT Promo Where Dusty Shut Up Stephanie!

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  • @InsideTheRopes
    @InsideTheRopes  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Was Stephanie right to be mad about this promo? Let us know in the comments below.

    • @davidyya2399
      @davidyya2399 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      nope, no, nah, never aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddddddd negative

    • @TakerKaneanite619
      @TakerKaneanite619 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Well....no. This isn't even in hindsight that he passed less than 2 years later, even at the time. That was basically him calmly showing that he had a problem with how the Authority had treated his sons. It made sense for the sake of the story.

    • @PiyachonYuenyongHYDE
      @PiyachonYuenyongHYDE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I mean if she doesn't have a problem on burying other talents with them have no way of get back at her then she shouldn't be mad about it.

    • @Jeff_Pryce
      @Jeff_Pryce 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      No. She was always interjecting herself in the storylines and slapping everyone else, making them look weak because they couldn’t hit her back. She was a heat vacuum. The only reason why I liked Ronda at the beginning is because she destroyed that trope completely by putting Stephanie in arm bars every chance she got. 😂

    • @acehigh79
      @acehigh79 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They never talked about the promo in this clip lol

  • @ffflover333lover9
    @ffflover333lover9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +681

    Dusty did exactly what he was suppose to do, He's a legend and Stephanie around that time was eviscerating/ emasculating stars on the mic so Dusty basically said= You won't own me on the mic, im the american dream for godsakes. Kno ur place steph 😂😂

    • @shoresy6927
      @shoresy6927 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Get over it

    • @DanielYahuahYahushaTorah
      @DanielYahuahYahushaTorah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@shoresy6927simp harder

    • @ffflover333lover9
      @ffflover333lover9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      @@shoresy6927 🤣🤣🤣go sit down somewhere

    • @shoresy6927
      @shoresy6927 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @ffflover333lover9 Thanks but I'm not tired. Even running through your mind for free I've still got energy.

    • @ffflover333lover9
      @ffflover333lover9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@shoresy6927 What a mid response 👏. U woke at 8 o clock to come up with that?? 😂😂😂Crack me up some more

  • @StealthMarmot_
    @StealthMarmot_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    WWE: Okay Dusty, here is what we want you to do...
    Dusty: That's nice. Here's what I'm going to do.

    • @ThaDiazFam
      @ThaDiazFam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      “Telling me what to do, das letting telling Babe Ruth how to hit da ball”

  • @BitestheStuff
    @BitestheStuff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +245

    It's really cool that Dusty did that for the writer. He wanted to write his own speech, but also recognized that could be an important piece of reference for him in future writing jobs, and still gave him credit.

    • @MrML4L
      @MrML4L 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Its def a super graceful way to handle that. Thats what made him The Dream!

    • @reeenji
      @reeenji 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The American Dream

  • @andrebdd5818
    @andrebdd5818 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    She got pissed because he did to her exactly what she did to everyone else

    • @ericseitzler81
      @ericseitzler81 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yea but the rules apply to everyone except the McMahon's

    • @chisomibezim1481
      @chisomibezim1481 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Sounds like the modern woman today

    • @ericseitzler81
      @ericseitzler81 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@chisomibezim1481 yea but women are allowed to have preferences and men aren't.you forget that women built this entire society and all the buildings and cars and faught all the wars for us to have better lives,oh wait something is wrong about that statement.

    • @lopegeto7095
      @lopegeto7095 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What?​@@ericseitzler81

  • @1992SMOFF
    @1992SMOFF 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +285

    Stephanie had no right to be mad about this. It feels like in kayfabe, she very rarely got any kind of payback for her actions, she would literally slap and emasculate male baby faces all the time. Always made zero sense to me, so when Dusty did this I marked out and popped so damn hard.

    • @LucasFerreira-cq8qz
      @LucasFerreira-cq8qz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      It’s because WWE at the time was heavily scripted, like every line and every move was scripted during promos. So Dusty doing that out of nowhere was surprising to her and she thought he was taking liberties, but if he would just say to her exactly what he was planning to do before they got to the ring she would love it and go with it. It just took her off guard, Stephanie never had any problem being the butt of the joke in front of the audience.

    • @rustlerv6549
      @rustlerv6549 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@LucasFerreira-cq8qzlmao she's been called slut/trashbag ho probably more times than any female in wwf history, but I can see why Dusty did what he did and why Steph got upset as well, the bottom line is that when you overscript promos they're always bound to fall flat or never reach that mark the writer wants it to reach, what people don't seem to understand is that a pro wrestler in their gimmick/character is supposed to be an extension of themselves, so may wrestlers in modern times have no idea how to stay and act in character especially when 90 percent of all promos these days are lines you have to remember from a script, I thought AEW would have been a great way to return to pro wrestling roots but since the owner/booker is a dumb bitch he can't seem to book anyone right or capitalize on ANY heat generated from promos that may have gone offscript (the MJF callout, the Omega/Punk drama, Edge and Ricky Starks going off script) pro wrestling just kinda sucks now

    • @MChuck-
      @MChuck- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      It's kinda why the Authority storyline wasn't able to live up to the McMahon/Austin feud. She rarely ever got her comeuppance for her actions and was able to do whatever she wanted with little to no consequences. That's why Austin/McMahon worked because no matter what Vince did Austin was there to give him a stunner before the end of the night. That's why this and the Ronda Rousey spot and match were huge because she was facing the consequences of her actions.
      Sure, Triple H would get attacked and lose big matches but he wasn't as bad as Stephanie.

    • @Nothereman9999
      @Nothereman9999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dusty's promo actually made fans care about a tag title match at a time the tag titles meant nothing and at a time Cody/Goldust had majorly cooled off. He didn't only sell the story, he got people to care about his boys at a time they really didn't.

    • @matthewrock4725
      @matthewrock4725 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@LucasFerreira-cq8qzThat's very true until about the late 2000s. Maybe the early 2010s but she went from being like her father and up for any sort of payback to almost never getting anything except accidental contact at a WrestleMania. And it's one of the things she got the most heat for because she would emasculate the entire roster and they would just have to stand there and take it. There was never any payback for her

  • @user-nc1wu2nm3i
    @user-nc1wu2nm3i 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    Dusty was so cool that he gave this random writer credit for his speech.

  • @TrueWrestlerFan
    @TrueWrestlerFan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

    Man i died when he did that. Rip Dusty, the Rhodes fam definitely one of the greats, or definitely up there

    • @patrickmilner4149
      @patrickmilner4149 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Then how are you commenting on this video if you're dead?

    • @ej9538
      @ej9538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@patrickmilner4149he means that he laughed so hard when Dusty did that

  • @joe77750
    @joe77750 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    This is what is missing from wrestling, that outlaw spirit Dusty had... Steph needed to be put in her place but nobody only had the balls to do it except Dusty

  • @soyleonardocloss
    @soyleonardocloss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I know the WWE audience do acknowledge Dusty but man I wish he could've been as big in the WWF as he was in Florida so now the fans could realize how massive a deal that man really was..

    • @acehigh79
      @acehigh79 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The wwe made dusty a joke. I wish they would have let him do his thing like he did in the NWA. The American Dream wasn't a gimmick. That was just Dusty!

  • @Dragonblack90
    @Dragonblack90 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    They were gonna have Dusty say “suffering succotash”

    • @Bulletno
      @Bulletno 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      imagine Dusty says those verbage "suffering succotash baby" 🤣

    • @Trayxxxx
      @Trayxxxx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@BulletnoI kind of wish he did now, I feel like he'd be one of the few people that could get away with it

    • @ronburgundy244
      @ronburgundy244 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@TrayxxxxDusty already felt like a cartoon character, having him say a Looney Toons catchphrase wouldn't be that surprising.

    • @indrakanthshenoy3248
      @indrakanthshenoy3248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Bulletno😂😂😂

  • @damikey85
    @damikey85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    A lot of y’all fail to realize most stars of that era and some right after that didn’t follow no script. For what though? They was just that good

    • @AdeptusCaeiusIII
      @AdeptusCaeiusIII 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Randy spent his entire afternoon the day before a show working on what his next promo would be so that he had something genius to hit people with. The guys back then were legendary. The Dusty types, the DiBiases, the Macho Man, Ultimate Warrior, Piper... The whole lot in that 20-ish year span. They didn't have lines. They had catch-phrases that they rehearsed over and over and they believed in. Do that long enough, and you learn to buy your own hype when you're in the ring, and you become a trash-talking machine, and that made the old days worth it.

    • @107Pedro
      @107Pedro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@AdeptusCaeiusIII......warrior really? You think he practiced that insanity? Hes practice was cocaine probably 😂

    • @AdeptusCaeiusIII
      @AdeptusCaeiusIII 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@107Pedro Taker had said in an interview that he and Warrior would talk about things before they did work together. Not saying it was always that way, but he DID plan out his promos in advance to some degree. You get to a point where the plan is to improvise bits and pieces with your own bullet points and catch-phrases between. Basically everyone around that time did it that way. Nobody 'wrote' the promo. They just spent time thinking about what points they were going to hit before doing the promo.

  • @antivenom56
    @antivenom56 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Dusty did the right thing

    • @stevohavener3277
      @stevohavener3277 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha, dark humor. Its the truth though.

  • @Sam1c9797
    @Sam1c9797 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Can see Triple H liked it, couldn't hide his smile

    • @FreshPrincex4
      @FreshPrincex4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That's cause Paul loves that Old School mentality of Pro Wrestling

    • @Sam1c9797
      @Sam1c9797 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      1000000000%@@FreshPrincex4

  • @Wonderboy46Z
    @Wonderboy46Z 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Love the fact that Dusty basically just did whatever basically needed to happen, made sense, and stayed true to Dusty! When he put the shhhhsh on StephMac it was such a beautiful and awesome moment.
    *Can we appreciate just how smoking hot Brandi looks there? She’s a serious smokeshow!

  • @RyanRumbles434
    @RyanRumbles434 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Dusty also didn't like the Authority. 👍RIP Dream

  • @90sctv
    @90sctv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Love dusty and cody but cornette was doing the boys in the crowd with OVW years before dusty in fcw/nxt. It led to the famous confrontation involving corny and santino over what santino was doing in the crowd involving the boogyman.

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dusty and Corny were two different animals!!!

  • @Drumming_Monkey
    @Drumming_Monkey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Holy smokes Brandi...
    Edit: Oh yeah no I like listening to Cody every time. He's a down to earth guy and knows what he's talking about without coming off as an egomaniac, like some of the other guys. Great insides. But you know...Brandi....

    • @nOT_sURE08
      @nOT_sURE08 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes.

    • @matthewrock4725
      @matthewrock4725 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Brandi has always had an ego that didn't deserve to be there. Even right when they left the company and she was referring on Twitter to their accomplishments ...like....no honey. HIS accomplishments. You were a c level ring announcer, And they didn't want you to wrestle because you were bad at it

    • @Drumming_Monkey
      @Drumming_Monkey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@matthewrock4725 To be honest, it's not necessarily her ego that caught my eye here.

    • @rigfordthebarbarian2895
      @rigfordthebarbarian2895 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewrock4725 Patrice O'Neal had a funny bit about women doing that. If I'm remembering the bit correctly, he said that "When the woman wins the lottery, she won it. When you win the lottery, we won it."

  • @damiantosd8720
    @damiantosd8720 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Characters build characters. If you have a talented rule breaker on your team let them grow they will bring others up with them. All you need to do as a ‘’boss/leader’’ is guide them.

  • @shiningwizard202
    @shiningwizard202 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dusty breaking the rules and doing what he thought was right gave NXT the opportunity to shine. Triple H gets a lot of credit, and well deserved, but we all know who got the ball rolling to make the black & gold era so successful.

  • @Jwjmcc
    @Jwjmcc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Cody’s spot on,a good boss tells them what to do and let’s them do it there way,dusty forgot more than some idiot writers knew

  • @deathbystereo-
    @deathbystereo- 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    people dont notice dustin leant in and sais someting to his dad before he spoke. probbably alomg the lines of "dont dad" 😂

  • @backyardbuilttrucks1
    @backyardbuilttrucks1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dusty was my favorite wrestler ever . Guy was a dynamo charismatic and stood his ground.

  • @dariussparkes7080
    @dariussparkes7080 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Jesus, Stephanie was diabolical during this run.

    • @cfcdaviddcfc
      @cfcdaviddcfc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      shes always been diabolical with zero ZERO talent

    • @chisomibezim1481
      @chisomibezim1481 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really wanted big show to knock her out 😂

  • @1alsturgeon
    @1alsturgeon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    His HOF speech was great

  • @dizzygunner
    @dizzygunner 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I don't think I looked at Cody once during any wide shot....

    • @nOT_sURE08
      @nOT_sURE08 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes.

    • @ericseitzler81
      @ericseitzler81 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wait Cody was there?

  • @andregordon2599
    @andregordon2599 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I mean, look it was likley not the best choice to do that on air, but Vince and Staph being that annoyed is a little much

  • @michaelrubin9547
    @michaelrubin9547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dusty and Steph had a real argument

  • @Kenpachi324
    @Kenpachi324 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:07 I don’t get it

    • @zezozank8076
      @zezozank8076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It was during Covid.
      When there was no one in the crowd so they would pipe in fake noise.
      Dusty’s idea was to use the guys in the wwe lockeroom as the audience instead to react and make it feel more authentic.
      Which they did in nxt.

    • @neilomac
      @neilomac 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dusty passed in 2015. Cody's probably talking about practice matches in the PC for the trainees.

    • @zezozank8076
      @zezozank8076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@neilomac you’re right.
      My mistake.

  • @smithmeister
    @smithmeister 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His uniform was cowboy boots and nothing else.
    "Thteven... Ah got mah own bodyguard like Whitney Houthton..."

  • @MACsDaddyNotYours
    @MACsDaddyNotYours 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn't hear what I wanted to hear tho

  • @tangentdark
    @tangentdark 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    wrestling is like high school, everybody’s always shooting.

  • @benironside1264
    @benironside1264 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He pretty much doesn’t shoot on that promo at all..I would say it was mentioned

  • @autumnwind1216
    @autumnwind1216 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didnt hear about the actual promo

  • @LP004
    @LP004 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The micro managing in WWE helps make things unauthentic and they need to trust their talent more, they don’t need a full script for a promo, unless they absolutely need it, I’d like to think the talent are competent enough to do a promo on their own with some bullet points, a word for word script is just so robotic.

  • @thesprock5270
    @thesprock5270 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Steph was turn the channel heat here

  • @xtxpp
    @xtxpp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Rock does that to her frequently in the 2000s yet she doesn't have a problem with it 🤣🤣

  • @tmc9118
    @tmc9118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She deserved it and just because she's the owner's daughter doesn't me she should get to run her mouth your dad brought you into this that's the only reason you have any t.v. time like you do and money like you do don't disrespect the ones that paved the way

  • @sunniedunbar6889
    @sunniedunbar6889 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just think! Cody works with people who practiced doing impressions of his dad infront of a mirror.

  • @ymd2516
    @ymd2516 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah because if someone behaved like that to Dusty when he was booking, he’d have been cool about it… 🙄

  • @ReinEngel
    @ReinEngel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Why is it so great that he wasn't a team player, constantly ignored orders, and "broke all the rules" from the company that took care of him after he went broke for the 8th time?

    • @EWH815
      @EWH815 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Because it's the wrestling business where all the most entertaining moments were happening naturally and organically rather than being 100% scripted.

    • @TheEWFX29
      @TheEWFX29 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EWH815 But most of the moments were scripted all over. They were told what to talk about and who they were dealing with and who is winning. Wrestling is the most scripted form of entertainment.

    • @EWH815
      @EWH815 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@TheEWFX29 In the peak of wrestling in the 90s-early 2000s it was bullet point scripts. What I and most are referring to is the fact most wrestlers had a lot more freedom in the past with their characters and how they decided to get their messages across. There's even video of guys like Rock and Mankind talking about ideas and thinking of ideas not scripted. Many of the best moments between Rock and Austin were done organically on the spot.

    • @jasonbink5276
      @jasonbink5276 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Because he wasn't out for himself. He was still trying to help the younger talent. Dusty knew that some rules are more important to follow than others. What difference does it make whether he wears a Polo shirt or not? He's the American Dream.

    • @spacequack5470
      @spacequack5470 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You clearly dont know what you're talking about

  • @samoitooo
    @samoitooo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💚🇵🇸✌🏽

  • @undertakerfanz628
    @undertakerfanz628 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Brandi looks delicious 😋😋😋😋

    • @moistmarsupial3528
      @moistmarsupial3528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      🤨

    • @_WF23
      @_WF23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Show some goddamn respect. That is a married woman.

    • @undertakerfanz628
      @undertakerfanz628 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_WF23 I see you showing a lot of respect for my deek because you can't get off of it Smd

    • @davidedemurodominijanni9889
      @davidedemurodominijanni9889 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man... did you forget the 10 Commandments, for all goddamn'sake!?? How could you! You know those... "Don't kill, ..." uhm... "Don't kill, ..." Don't... kill, ..." ... *_daaamn..._* just can't remember... "Don't kill, ..." ehm... which were the others!??
      PS: Man... said just between us... you're a savage... you know that, right? Anyway... don't worry... I heard there is a forgivin'god who's prime vassal will open the gates for you too. Send me a postcard to hell... you might find me there I even heard saying.
      ~ for all the puritans up and down there and anywhere else... in War times ─ because we are in War times in the name of fuckin' religions, you know... ─ that whole thing right above is called *_"Satire"_*

    • @xoynialedmcesoentill6034
      @xoynialedmcesoentill6034 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@_WF23that is respect

  • @sessi0000
    @sessi0000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Yeah I think it was disrespectful af. But in saying that, Steph had been pretty disrespectful to a lot of talent on TV for years so I kinda get it, especially with the way Dustys sons had been treated, you could tell their was a lot of resentment towards the McMahons. So I understand why he did it, but should he have done it? Probably not.

    • @NurzBenny
      @NurzBenny 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Idk why in kayfabe he’d bother being respectful. The hand sold it more. If Steph was a true pro she could have and should have hammed it up for maximum effect. She was getting called a skeezer and getting rock bottomed for 2 years straight, idk how a hand is crossing the line

    • @spacequack5470
      @spacequack5470 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He clearly should have done it. Grow some brain cells

    • @Notoriouswrestlingfan12314
      @Notoriouswrestlingfan12314 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You do realize that Stephanie getting mad for no reason like one time she got piss at Chris Jericho just cuz he got heat by fans having throw the glow sticks at him so clearly Stephanie doesn’t really understand the business if she gets mad that easily

    • @chisomibezim1481
      @chisomibezim1481 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@NurzBennyI can see it being crossing the line given that it wasnt a part of the script. While the other things you mentioned were part of the script

    • @patrickdare5356
      @patrickdare5356 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yellow polka dots meant that Dusty had the right to do whatever the hell he wanted to.

  • @Holden-cl1ck
    @Holden-cl1ck 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Misleading title, but okay

  • @alreadybanned-pe6se
    @alreadybanned-pe6se 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stephanie ruined wwe
    Shane always should've taken over from Vince
    Shane being too good of a brother stepped aside for her but that was a mistake
    Stephanie is a headache of a person

  • @groovercrusader6651
    @groovercrusader6651 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I honestly feel like Triple H has been holding that grudge against Cody since he came back.

  • @vasili1207
    @vasili1207 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    irish drive on same side of the road as the usa ... Cody lying again lol

  • @shoresy6927
    @shoresy6927 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dusty was a legend sure but more in his head than in this industry.

    • @RZO-MAX
      @RZO-MAX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      No

    • @kiaburrell353
      @kiaburrell353 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol that’s a reach

  • @fattymcfattzz
    @fattymcfattzz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m sorry but Tony Kahn was an utter fucking fool for letting Cody go

  • @REEEEEEEEEEEE0
    @REEEEEEEEEEEE0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cody SHOOTS and basically says nothing lol