Can we just take a second to admire the production value?? Loving the camera angles and the CRISP resolution! Keep it up guys! Some of those returns were graceful AF 🔥🔥🔥
I find it easier to change grip for backhand because the other hand is still holding the racket while I’m pulling the racket back. But for forehand, the other hand lets go the racket a lot earlier
I prefer the Fed way of having the ”universal” continental grip as a stand-by set-up in every pre-split step window of a point/match. You use it for slices and volleys anyway (with possible little alterations) ; also there is no need to glue the grip by holding it ”ready” too early thus making it firm and stiff. So, it is only consistent with the relaxing tendency to roll the racquet in your hand before returning a serve or even between rally shots at the baseline. This method prevents overly aggrsessive forehand oh my forehand mindset as well (just watch Nishikori’s grip and stance in returns oh bloody hell: ”Now I’m gonna rip that ball with my massive forehand, just wait and see!” :D) . Needless to say I follow Fed in all my tennis techniques since he is the biomechanical paragorn and hyperr-gifted supermodel for all things tennis. No need to look any further.
to be fair with nishikori, I think a lot of people don't realize he's just loading his first forward step to ensure forward momentum when he splits. he's not actually favoring his forehand side. when he actually split steps, he's completely neutral and not favoring either side... but every spectator just follows the ball, so they never actually see how nishikori is facing when the serve is struck XD
@@bonzwah1 Even if that was the case and there's undoubtedly some solid truth in your keen observation as regards forward momentum leading up to a split step - even then we should note it is not the best method of doing it since it leaves your backhand flank somewhat weak and vulnerable by emphasizing the forehand stance anyway and also making the first step unnatural to an extent cutting off the dynamic step in of the left foot from the levelled athletic stance. You should favour the forehand all day in the rally phase but in returns such a hasty and aggressive policy is not the best option.
@@jackquinnes I'll repeat it. Nishikori does not favor his forehand AT ALL in his return of serve. Do not let his stance while the server is bouncing the ball BEFORE the serve deceive you. Watch any nishikori match and pause the video right AS the serve is being struck and you will see nishikori completely square to the server in the middle of a split step.
@@bonzwah1 Most likely.. I just don't encourage anyone to do it that way, so you can hug your precious forehand in advance and tank security oh my! :D The geometry of the situation (deuce v ad court)aside there is no need for any pre-taken static first steps in the return ready position (in my firm opinion). And what about then if and when Nishikori opts for taking sudden reverse steps (during the ball toss) to get space and time for a proper swing ! not optimal at all. But yeah and fair enough, you have a point. I just don't endorse it!
Great video. My splits/grip prep are the same for serve return as any other shot. use semi-western forehand is my prep. Keep the hitting hand very loose. The shoulder turn and the non-hitting hand will automatically switch to backhand and the hitting grip will fall into place. After a lot of trial and error, that's what works best for me.
great video your stuff has become my go to info. i play doubles 95% of the time and return with a backhand slice 95% of the time as a defensive move not as being on offense.
I usually return serve with a full bh grip ready even if they serve mostly to the fh.. just in case! Switching to my fh grip is very easy & I can usually return bombs on that side. However if ppl served to my bh and I had to switch grips, even from a continental, I wouldn’t make it in time lol
For all you Western FH grippers: by rotating the racket head counterclockwise (for righties) you will present the same side of the string bed to the incoming ball AND you will automatically be in the Eastern BH grip without having to make any adjustment. If you are a semi-Western FH gripper, the same racket head motion will land you just one bevel away from the Eastern BH grip--the same amount of correction needed as if you started out in Continental. Even though this racket head motion is very simple I find it takes a LOT of practice to make it automatic and, of course, it has to be automatic to be of any use.
My brotha you out did yourself on this video top notch my man! This is a must see for every one hander out there struggling on the return. Btw like I've always mentioned in past videos love the afro bro.
Hi Gentleman I just want to comment on the production quality of these videos, the b roll, audio and graphics are incredible and must take long to produce and edit. Kudos and keep on creating such easy to understand techniques.
I just use one grip: the western forehand for both wings. This avoids a lot of confusion. Thanks for video. It's great. BTW, who wins more between you and your brother? You both have great games that seem to look like exact mirrors of each other.
thank you for the video. Be careful with the sound editing because at some parts, it sounds really unnatural. Try to get the best sound as possible while recording so that you don't have to edit it at all. Understand how your mic works and get the best of it. Sound editing is very difficult and not recommended. You'll lose too much time on editing instead of focusing on the content. Keep crushing it !
The way I found effective is the body turn needs to happen right before the ball bounces. Then as it bounces up, you can make the swing and meet the ball in front of you. Needless to say, the faster the ball comes at you, the faster you have to make the body turn. If you're not fast enough, you won't meet the ball in front of you, and that's not going to be a good return or a good OHBH ground stroke.
If I am awaiting serve with Eastern backhand grip and then decide to slice the return, and I have time to switch grips, must the grip be changed to Continental? Is it wrong to slice with Eastern?
Question, when you are in a normal rally, do you normally hold a neutral/continental grip and switch to forehand/backhand grip or do you hold forehand grip and switch from there?
Honestly that probably depends on which grip yo are using for your bh and fh. I position my right hand for eastern grip very loosely, so I can easily switch between bh and fh with one turn. Maybe this helps a tiny bit before they respond back to you.
@@MoonDoy2 Okay then you might want to try holding the racket in eastern fh grip, loosely then change it to your fh or bh grip. You would only do a half turn to get to your fh grip and a full turn to get to your bh grip.
i learned more here than 20 years of tennis training and playing. absolute gem.
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Can we just take a second to admire the production value?? Loving the camera angles and the CRISP resolution! Keep it up guys!
Some of those returns were graceful AF 🔥🔥🔥
This is THE video many of us have been waiting for! 👊
Me too, greetings from argentina!!!!
@@pablobazan1305 ❤️🇦🇷
Dude. This video is exactly what I was looking for. You absolutely killed it
Luis!!! Haha!
Just what I needed. I've been thinking about looking up backhand returns recently.
I find it easier to change grip for backhand because the other hand is still holding the racket while I’m pulling the racket back. But for forehand, the other hand lets go the racket a lot earlier
I prefer the Fed way of having the ”universal” continental grip as a stand-by set-up in every pre-split step window of a point/match. You use it for slices and volleys anyway (with possible little alterations) ; also there is no need to glue the grip by holding it ”ready” too early thus making it firm and stiff. So, it is only consistent with the relaxing tendency to roll the racquet in your hand before returning a serve or even between rally shots at the baseline. This method prevents overly aggrsessive forehand oh my forehand mindset as well (just watch Nishikori’s grip and stance in returns oh bloody hell: ”Now I’m gonna rip that ball with my massive forehand, just wait and see!” :D) . Needless to say I follow Fed in all my tennis techniques since he is the biomechanical paragorn and hyperr-gifted supermodel for all things tennis. No need to look any further.
to be fair with nishikori, I think a lot of people don't realize he's just loading his first forward step to ensure forward momentum when he splits. he's not actually favoring his forehand side. when he actually split steps, he's completely neutral and not favoring either side...
but every spectator just follows the ball, so they never actually see how nishikori is facing when the serve is struck XD
@@bonzwah1 Even if that was the case and there's undoubtedly some solid truth in your keen observation as regards forward momentum leading up to a split step - even then we should note it is not the best method of doing it since it leaves your backhand flank somewhat weak and vulnerable by emphasizing the forehand stance anyway and also making the first step unnatural to an extent cutting off the dynamic step in of the left foot from the levelled athletic stance. You should favour the forehand all day in the rally phase but in returns such a hasty and aggressive policy is not the best option.
@@jackquinnes I'll repeat it. Nishikori does not favor his forehand AT ALL in his return of serve. Do not let his stance while the server is bouncing the ball BEFORE the serve deceive you. Watch any nishikori match and pause the video right AS the serve is being struck and you will see nishikori completely square to the server in the middle of a split step.
@@bonzwah1 Most likely.. I just don't encourage anyone to do it that way, so you can hug your precious forehand in advance and tank security oh my! :D The geometry of the situation (deuce v ad court)aside there is no need for any pre-taken static first steps in the return ready position (in my firm opinion). And what about then if and when Nishikori opts for taking sudden reverse steps (during the ball toss) to get space and time for a proper swing ! not optimal at all. But yeah and fair enough, you have a point. I just don't endorse it!
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Great video. My splits/grip prep are the same for serve return as any other shot. use semi-western forehand is my prep. Keep the hitting hand very loose. The shoulder turn and the non-hitting hand will automatically switch to backhand and the hitting grip will fall into place. After a lot of trial and error, that's what works best for me.
Perfect video. Serve returns are the weakness on my backhand side. I will practice some of these tips. Thanks
This is the topic that I waiting for, Thx for content in advance btw. Fan from Thailand.
Thank you for this :) I remember asking for it a few months back
Some valuable tips here. Thanks!
great video your stuff has become my go to info. i play doubles 95% of the time and return with a backhand slice 95% of the time as a defensive move not as being on offense.
I usually return serve with a full bh grip ready even if they serve mostly to the fh.. just in case! Switching to my fh grip is very easy & I can usually return bombs on that side. However if ppl served to my bh and I had to switch grips, even from a continental, I wouldn’t make it in time lol
good idea, espec if theyre a decent server and target your backhand
For all you Western FH grippers: by rotating the racket head counterclockwise (for righties) you will present the same side of the string bed to the incoming ball AND you will automatically be in the Eastern BH grip without having to make any adjustment. If you are a semi-Western FH gripper, the same racket head motion will land you just one bevel away from the Eastern BH grip--the same amount of correction needed as if you started out in Continental. Even though this racket head motion is very simple I find it takes a LOT of practice to make it automatic and, of course, it has to be automatic to be of any use.
i also do that, but difficult to do a continental grip slice BH like that.
My brotha you out did yourself on this video top notch my man!
This is a must see for every one hander out there struggling on the return.
Btw like I've always mentioned in past videos love the afro bro.
Totally brilliant 👍
Wow thanks for all you videos ! Super helpful 🤟🏻🔥🤗
Flawless video, well done!
Hi Gentleman I just want to comment on the production quality of these videos, the b roll, audio and graphics are incredible and must take long to produce and edit. Kudos and keep on creating such easy to understand techniques.
Awesome video!!! 👏
Thanks man!!!
Although probably untrue, I like to think this video was born out of my question on a previous video. Great job as always!
Aweasome video, guys. Congratulations from Brazil.
wow cant believe it took me so long to find u guys
I just use one grip: the western forehand for both wings. This avoids a lot of confusion. Thanks for video. It's great. BTW, who wins more between you and your brother? You both have great games that seem to look like exact mirrors of each other.
Yea I have such an extreme western grip for my forehand that it works for my backhand too
thank you for the video. Be careful with the sound editing because at some parts, it sounds really unnatural. Try to get the best sound as possible while recording so that you don't have to edit it at all. Understand how your mic works and get the best of it.
Sound editing is very difficult and not recommended. You'll lose too much time on editing instead of focusing on the content.
Keep crushing it !
Good stuff 👌
Your one handed returns look really good. Do any of you guys play one handed normally?
The way I found effective is the body turn needs to happen right before the ball bounces. Then as it bounces up, you can make the swing and meet the ball in front of you. Needless to say, the faster the ball comes at you, the faster you have to make the body turn. If you're not fast enough, you won't meet the ball in front of you, and that's not going to be a good return or a good OHBH ground stroke.
1:21 can relate 🤣🤣
Hi "mini Kirk hammett". Great video
If I am awaiting serve with Eastern backhand grip and then decide to slice the return, and I have time to switch grips, must the grip be changed to Continental? Is it wrong to slice with Eastern?
Moar content please :) Volleys, smashes, or anything really tbh!
another cracker of a video! many thanks
Gunnybrook!
Awesome video, but not sure if it's my phone but your audio is a little funky. Sounds like something happened at the stereo bus.
Same for me
Question, when you are in a normal rally, do you normally hold a neutral/continental grip and switch to forehand/backhand grip or do you hold forehand grip and switch from there?
Honestly that probably depends on which grip yo are using for your bh and fh. I position my right hand for eastern grip very loosely, so I can easily switch between bh and fh with one turn. Maybe this helps a tiny bit before they respond back to you.
@@yakzivz1104 I use a semi western forehand and Eastern backhand
@@MoonDoy2 Okay then you might want to try holding the racket in eastern fh grip, loosely then change it to your fh or bh grip. You would only do a half turn to get to your fh grip and a full turn to get to your bh grip.
Bro loves federer
Yes
But proffesional courts are larger
Could not tell the difference in your demo between pivot and flat steps. They look exactly the same.
Great video! Btw what’s the name of your puddle and how it does stay so calm on your head?
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me, who uses bevel 4 for forehands and backhands
*i am 4 parallel dimensions ahead of you*
bruh why u talking right behind my left ear.
You back-hand seem no power
Your grammar seems to have no power.
... pls go recharge ya battery, low power upstairs