Sly Cooper Dr. M Theory - A Broken Friendship - Sly Cooper Movie Discussion

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  • Dr. M was originally the brains of Sly's father's gang. In Sly Cooper 3 Honor Among Thieves, Dr. M explained that Conner Cooper was never such a good friend. Whatever happened between the two in the past, it's still a mystery.
    Sly does remember a few things about his father. One event he remembers is the day when the map to the Cooper Vault was being hidden in a museum in Italy, this was when Sly Cooper was three years old.
    According to Sly Cooper Issue 2, Conner Cooper was one of a kind and a good man. Which sides of the story are we supposed to believe? Was Sly's father a good man or a bad friend?
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  • @moneylover318
    @moneylover318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    What I loved about sly is that even though he remembers his father proudly he doesn't say his father was perfect. He acknowledges that maybe his father didn't his team fairly but sly doesn't think less of his friends. Sly need Bentley and Murray and his life because they are a family not a team

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah!

    • @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
      @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VtnVivi
      And I bet Dr M didn't know that Connor was about to have a wife and son later on and believed he abandoned him and his team but really didn't.

  • @demonfox879
    @demonfox879 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I Feel like what happen to Dr. M is what happen to Penelope. I'm pretty sure he got more greedy and crooked as the time went on when he was with the cooper gang, eventually he just started feeling left out and felt like he could do a hell a lot more. Maybe certain events happen with the Conner that Dr. M took out of context, or overreacted or whatever.
    It's like those cliche's "If you were a Real friend, you'd stand by my side!" or whatever when Dr. M started suggesting some extreme stuff that goes against the cooper code. Conner sure as hell ain't going to go with his plans and always suggested the alternative and for sure his grudge against Conner and eventually the Cooper Gang grows.

  • @darkshadowthehalo
    @darkshadowthehalo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know this is off topic but I'm sad to inform that the voice actor of Dr. M, Rick May (also voice actor for Soldier in Team Fortress 2), has died due to the Corona virus. Rest in peace Rick May

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RIP :(

  • @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
    @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    What would be cool is a prequel to the Sly Cooper Videogame Series with Conner Cooper Dr M and McSweeney as the main characters and who should be in Carmelita's role? Sly's Mother?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd love a prequel!!!!! If only the series was that popular to get one. Carmelita's role I'd imagine a new character, as in non Carmelita related.

    • @darktooth4576
      @darktooth4576 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe it could be an entirely different police officer? Like a predecessor to Carmelita? Perhaps the police chief we saw in Sly 2 could have been an officer himself before he got to the rank of chief?

  • @Ratzmoonmopes
    @Ratzmoonmopes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Woah, not sure how relevant this is, but I'm actually playing sly 2 right now and in the cutscene where Bentley breaks sly out of jail and they talk to eachother for the first time, bentley says something very interesting to sly.
    "You know the old saying, "if you can't count on a friend to break you out of jail, then what kind of a friend are they?"
    Could this possibly be a seed, a hint, foreshadowing, maybe just a coincidence? The Connor leaving Dr. M in prison theory seems to be all the more likely with this extremely subtle detail

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If Sucker Punch had already thought of Dr. M while working on Sly 2, I'd say it was subtle hint... Oh no, was the answer hidden this whole time? It's interesting. Will keep this in mind ;)

  • @NTheHedgehog
    @NTheHedgehog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I still think you should do a theory on who stole Dimitris juice but also why you like the money

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Murray's mom

    • @NTheHedgehog
      @NTheHedgehog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      VTNVIVI Plot twist, your Murray's mom and Bentleys uncle all in one body

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ***** Don't tell anyone!!!

    • @NTheHedgehog
      @NTheHedgehog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh I get it now. I'll be quiet as a mouse

    • @richardthang5266
      @richardthang5266 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@NTheHedgehogFunny, the Sucker Punch company didn’t even mention who’s Murray and Bentley’s parents were when they first met Sly back at the orphanage in the past 20 years before he became a leader of the new Cooper Gang after his parents were killed by the Fiendish Five.

  • @jaredsergent857
    @jaredsergent857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think it's less that they were divorced because he was focused on thieving but vice versa that when sly was born he started focusing on his family more than the gang hence why Dr M felt betrayed. This explains another reason why Dr M would want Sly dead because he feels that Connors child and family got in the way. I just don't see a divorce being thesiable here there's nothing for it.

    • @tf2disneylover1258
      @tf2disneylover1258 ปีที่แล้ว

      If that were true, how does McSweeny fit into this?

  • @shadowdragon236
    @shadowdragon236 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Maybe Conner was a good friend, what if during a certain mission he forgotten about Dr. M causing him to get caught while both Conner and Mcsweeney get away without noticing him, perhaps it was a serious situation he was in and though that Conner will come and recuse him. But Conner would already be gone by the time Dr. M was caught
    After the incident, Conner tried to apologize to Dr. M, but Dr. M will never forgive Conner for that moment and walked off from him before Conner would say that he's so sorry and would never do it again causing their friendship to fall apart

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Something like that perhaps.

  • @Nebulous.Infinity
    @Nebulous.Infinity 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just wanted to say thanks for making these Sly videos! I feel like nobody talks about these games anymore, and as a die-hard fan of the series, I really appreciate you still talking about them and keeping the fans up to date on Sly news.
    I hope they make Sly 5 soon!!! 💙💛💚❤️

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much it means a lot :D

  • @monkeydluffy2494
    @monkeydluffy2494 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I always wonder what was the story behind sly father & Doctor M

  • @jaredsergent857
    @jaredsergent857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How did Dr M find the Island? The same way Mc Sweeny knew. They very likely joined Connor on his trip to the Island to store the treasure. The betrayal here may be Connor unlike Sly didn't alow these two inside the vault hence Dr Ms obsession with getting inside.

    • @Mannyindahouse
      @Mannyindahouse 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seems plausible.

  • @raven3067
    @raven3067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can pretty much see where Dr.M was coming from. But what did he mean when he said "Funny... Your father was never such a good friend?" Did Connor not acknowledge Dr. M's skills and brilliance as a valuable member to his gang. Did Connor pay him less? Did Connor and Dr.M have a major disagreement resulting in a argument causing Dr.M to get fed up and quit Connors gang? Connor must've left Dr.M to get arrested during a heist.
    What ever the reason was it resulted in Dr. M growing to hate Connor and eventually despise Cooper's in general. He felt more like a sidekick rather than a valuable asset to Connors gang.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I wonder!

  • @SuperGodzilla2
    @SuperGodzilla2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was a interesting vid, would lovr to learn more about Dr. M.
    great vid dude.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed :D

  • @HyperCyberSword03
    @HyperCyberSword03 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ima say and go out on a limb that Conner felt that because Dr. M is the brains of the operation he figured Dr. M would get out of sticky situation with ease, but failed to realize that Dr.M may be the brains, but he wasn't the bronze, the muscle and he sure wasnt a talented theif with generations worth of experience. So i say with that in mind Dr.M grew tired of being left behind in both heists, as well as his friendship and only used for his genius moments that helped Conner during their heists. So eventually everything one day caught up to Dr.M and he finally snapped and thought that it was his plans and his gadgets that helped Conner get what he wanted, and Conner never shared the fortune with him, and even never took the time to truly be an amazing friend towards Dr.M like he was to McSweeney. For McSweeney to tell Sly that Conner was a great friend shows that Conner probably liked McSweeney more then Dr.M. If this isn't the case then ima also say that Conner was a good friend, and was sharing his fortune with his gang, but Dr.M wanted more then what he got. Conner was also aware of Dr.M's behavior as well as his antics, so Conner felt that Dr.M wasn't being as good as a friend as he was at being the brains of the operation. Conner then focused on his friendship with McSweeney, but didnt realized him doing that would upset Dr.M even further. However these are my little theories on how Dr.M came to be.

  • @ahmedbukuk8016
    @ahmedbukuk8016 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey vivi plz make more videos they are the only way to keep me in touch with the game i loved the game since i was a kid and these videos just take me back to my childhood when i used to play the sly series.btw thx a lot for the videos.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoy them and I appreciate the support!

  • @tylermarshall1757
    @tylermarshall1757 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good vid vivi can't wait for more news

  • @fanofmediastuff269
    @fanofmediastuff269 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. M is my favorite villain from the Sly Cooper games

  • @joaolucaslucena4786
    @joaolucaslucena4786 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    my fav Sly Cooper villain
    Awesome Video

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @mattligotti2375
    @mattligotti2375 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't thought about that thanks

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :)

  • @notddgdx
    @notddgdx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need another SLY Cooper game BTW I love your videos.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the support!

  • @stefanloncar6868
    @stefanloncar6868 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is probably the most requested one from your fans.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it really :P?

  • @tabreezsiddique
    @tabreezsiddique 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:14 - A theory/discussion video eh? I like that. ;)
    1:02 - That actually does seem fair but he's also trying to take the ancestors loot as well.
    1:12 - Well the thing is we don't even know how these guy met in the first place, like were they childhood friends or was it during some point in time that Connor was looking for recruits?
    1:36 - Not Henriette, Thadius, Slytunkhamen, Rioichi or his old man, just Sly.
    1:58 - I'm still wondering what exactly did he mean back then?
    2:24 - Hahahah yeah I was just about to bring that up! XD
    2:38 - Yes ... I suppose that theory would actually make sense, even McSweeney talked to Sly as if he knew that his old man wasn't around anymore.
    2:59 - Which I actually got in perfect condition a month ago.
    3:08 - This is actually pretty hard to go for, Dr. M could perhaps be telling the truth but then again what if his motive is to just dishearten Sly or his friends? McSweeney on the other hand despite that he himself is a good man and claims that Sly's old man is the same, could have actually lied just to ensure that Sly has a good view on him and doesn't get dishearten himself. A good example of this scenario would be Batman: The Telltale series where Bruce Wayne found out that his old man was working alongside Mayor Hill and Falcone in dealing with their enemies to get what they want.
    3:27 - Maybe he was a good man to begin with but betraying his friend was his own undoing.
    4:27 - It could actually be the same case with Batman: The Telltale Series where Thomas Wayne never showed signs of foul play so how could Bruce have known? Take that as an example where Bruce is Sly and Thomas is Conner.
    4:49 - Or he could just have wanted his death for amusement. If I have to compare Dr. M with someone from Batman: The Telltale Series then I'd go with either Oswald Cobblepot or Lady Arkham because they both lost their family to the alliance between Falcone, Hill and Thomas and since Bruce benefited from this he was their target.
    5:37 - I quite agree with you on that.
    5:59 - I'd say yes.
    6:46 - Maybe he did remember but didn't want to remember or bring it up.
    7:47 - But didn't the family live on a farm?
    8:08 - Remember what Clockwerk said: "Empathy has always been the downfall of the Cooper clan".
    8:55 - That can also be true.
    9:47 - Maybe he found out the same way Sly did, from McSweeney? What if he was oblivious to what Dr. M was actually like?
    10:18 - (LAUGHING) Too funny especially with how you panned and zoomed in on that image! XD Also it's really understandable you have to talk about the movie since that's confirmed and another game isn't.
    10:54 - Maybe he found the one map in that museum in Italy and copied everything on that.
    11:13 - Do you think they'll bring in Ross Douglas to voice him in the movie?
    11:37 - So they're going to skip the 2nd story? Then again they did a similar thing with the Ratchet & Clank movie where they hinted on the 3rd story so yeah!
    11:47 - Dr. M is actually a mandrill. A baboon of some kind so maybe that could be what M stands for.
    11:59 - That can be a thing as well.
    12:14 - Your ideas could actually be something within either the games or the movie, I still believe that Sly's mother was the one that wasn't a good person and caused this whole thing and I believe that Conner reveled as much as he wanted to Sly, meaning that he had secrets.
    12:20 - And as always, we are all happy to watch. :)

  • @olivia885msp2
    @olivia885msp2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i just thought something... in sly 4 thief's in time, in the last area, you get a genie costume right? ( i don't know if bentley says it in the english version too, i play it in german) bentley said: "this costume once belong to a real genie and only people with a COOPER FOCUS can dominate the time lag" so... does that mean the genie was a cooper too...? maybe salim or henriette had a sibling...
    (sry if there are some typo's im from switzerland, but i want to tell you this)

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the English version Bentley explained: '' In any event, someone with the Cooper focus could pull it off''. The sceptre could've influenced Mathew de La Coopeur's slow motion technique. Funny thing is, the costume fit Sly perfectly, sure It's thinking too much, but perhaps Sly was truly the one who could pull it off aka a Cooper. The thief costume was considered old rags according to the salesman until Sly wore it hmm... Interesting.

    • @olivia885msp2
      @olivia885msp2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      omg... you just answered me :o that's amazing 😍

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      olivia885 Msp Why is that surprising haha :P? Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment.

  • @joaolucaslucena4786
    @joaolucaslucena4786 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your ending music

  • @cameronpark3591
    @cameronpark3591 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think one important fact that is overlooked would be how did the fiendish five know where the current cooper family lived so they could've been double crossed by an old friend this would explain how they managed to get the jump on the Cooper family and their location. However Clockwerk has been tracking the Cooper clan for centuries so this could potentially explain that. Or the fact that Sly's dad had enough time to hide Sly and wait for the Fiendish Five as after they killed him they would stop looking for any other Coopers including Sly as they may not have known about him I can't really remember as I haven't played the games in about 6 or 7 years. This leads to my next point what did they have to gain from eliminating the Cooper gang my simple analysis tells me that the Coopers have been beating criminals for years so by taking them out of the equation no one stands in their way they would become the very top of the master criminals. I would also like to add when you come from a long line of thief's with master techniques to get away with centuries of experience then all it would take would be one bad egg with the intentions to rob innocent people or simply not be brave enough to save their friend hence Dr. M I believe hating at least Sly's father. Note I haven't watched this theory yet so don't kill me just correct me but I believe that one heist went bad where they got in to a situation where Sly's father had a choice maybe to save his friend or friends and he picked one of the two or maybe it was a choice between just one and he didn't save them believing that his friend was dead/out of the picture and the other was in prison he retired the vault was closed he added his pages to the thievius raccoonus for his next of kin Sly while Dr. M or the Fiendish five or both plotted revenge against the cooper clan. Sorry for the essay just my thoughts that I have been bouncing around in the last ten minutes or so.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's good question, how did the Fiendish Five know about the Coopers whereabouts? I'd go ahead and say Clockwerk the leader. Perhaps Dr.M could've revealed the location of the book. Sure Clockwerk could've blasted the house, but didn't want to risk the book getting turned to ash. By the time they got the book, the parents were dead. Clockwerk explained that he kept Sly alive (he knew about Conner had a kid) just to try and prove that Coopers were nothing without the book. And you're pretty close to what I explained in the video, heist going bad let's say. And thanks for sharing!

    • @cameronpark3591
      @cameronpark3591 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well I suppose I should have seen Clockwerk keeping Sly alive cocky twat fits in character very well. Also good theory I just re watched the ending of Sly 4 and saw tons of people speculating the ending not sure if you've done a theory on it but I reckon with a small amount of research you could come up with a solid conclusion like I have also this is a channel I'm subscribing too.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cameron Park I think I've talked a lot about Ancient Egypt :P And thanks for the support!

  • @thomazdan
    @thomazdan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if after Sly 5 we get a sly cooper spin off game based on those comic issues, an episode explaining Neyla's story and another for Connor story and an episode to know how did carmelita became a cop and her first mission trying to arrest the cooper gang?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These I'd like to see one day ;)

    • @thomazdan
      @thomazdan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI What do you think about a remake of Sly 1, 2 and 3 with a new engine for the PS4?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Tomaz After Sly 5? Sure why not, perhaps even make it run on the same engine as R&C Ps4, you know CGI.

  • @RicklessSanchez
    @RicklessSanchez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Old Cooper Gang give him so much skill in Dr M. Was good guy but evil.

  • @justinm8n
    @justinm8n 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anybody know what's the music in VTNVIVI's credits???

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's Final Fantasy 15, part of the final boss theme.

    • @justinm8n
      @justinm8n 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks ^_^

  • @orcaboi1558
    @orcaboi1558 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we desperatly need a real sly 4 or sly 5. retcon thieves in time and make a true 4 where we explore more about connor's past and the reason dr m became who he is. its been 10 years thought and i highly doubt we will ever get a true sequel that will satisfy our answers.

  • @Lizzybunny99
    @Lizzybunny99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thinking about Sly's parents still married, they both died from very old owl is the robot since the first game.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :(

    • @Lizzybunny99
      @Lizzybunny99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VtnVivi I know pal! I did look it up , we have lots of questions about Sly's parents. Don't feel bad yourself and I love your videos 😉😉

  • @Theta117
    @Theta117 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video as always vivi any new info on the sly cooper movie?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! No news so far, I just go over how Dr. M can be implemented in the movie.

    • @millerthekiller9423
      @millerthekiller9423 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI can you do one on guru or Connor or Sly's dad

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guru it's doable as for Connor, got to use some imagination :)

  • @lilmarioriesgobronykingleg6262
    @lilmarioriesgobronykingleg6262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He the one who tell Clockwerk where his father lived!

  • @popcultureodyssey4459
    @popcultureodyssey4459 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    U should talk about the movie more often. You have good ideas. I like your idea about clockwerk and Dr M. except for at one point of the movie sly should meet MCSweeney and he could tell sly about his father's gang and what made Dr M. so mad. He could say that Dr M. was obsessed with finding the vault and he could give sly the map to the Cooper Vault as well which could hint at a sequel.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know should I? Don't want to sound like that over obsessed fan. Out of everything, the team should take the time and focus on our main characters and main villain. For McSweeney, considering it's 90 mins movie, there's already so many characters, plus they would also have to introduce him. It does sound like a good idea, but I think the ending could use a more touching scene.

    • @popcultureodyssey4459
      @popcultureodyssey4459 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI Yeah I don't know? Ive been thinking maybe we should cut the Feindesh five to make more room for a better story. I really want the movie to explore everything we don't know about Sly's parents as well as his relationship with McSweeney and doctor M. If doctor M is included then I feel McSweeney should be as well. I think Mugshot is a good villain and so it was also hurt the film to see them cut. I don't know I hope the directors to find a balance in between.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Travis Judging by what I've read on Twitter a long time ago, Muggshot might appear. If so, I'm expecting the Fiendish Five. Also, Mountains of China are mentioned in the description of the film. The movie should primarily focus on our trio out of all things.

  • @Maljurok
    @Maljurok 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got you covered there VTNVIVI, The M in Dr. M stands for Mandrill. Well it makes sense since Dr. M's species is in fact Mandrill, look it up yourself if you don't believe me.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do believe you

  • @nadeshiko2842
    @nadeshiko2842 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    any top tens in the future for the channel. your doing a lot of sly so how about a top ten best abilities in the series

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eventually :P

  • @justinm8n
    @justinm8n 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just realized that I think in my own opinion, I think that the sly movie probably take place after sly 2 or more because before the events of sly 2, Bentley didn't learn how to drive a van or aka a stickshift and when we see that in the movie trailer, Bentley was driving along with sly, not only that but another reason is how did sly learn some of his Ancestors moves as he was on his way to the donut shop even though before sly 1, he didn't learn those moves until he reads the stolen pages, I'm just saying that in my own opinion and just to point out a few things, and also there are some point outs to tell it's before sly 2, just wanted to say that out of my chest... :v

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have a very good point there! Thing is, the trailer is just a concept, so that right there I wouldn't analyse it too much. And two, I believe the movie will have some elements from Sly 2 like Bentley driving. In the movie universe, perhaps his friends had taught him before.

    • @justinm8n
      @justinm8n 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      VTNVIVI It's interesting that they showed us this concept footage for a reason, we'll figure it out soon, of course they'll tweak a few things on the story and "character design", after all, it is just a concept, A way we can figure out the movies timeline is that if and IF they release a canon trailer for the movie, then we might have some sort of chance to see Bentley's character design, if Bentley still has the wheelchair or not, then we can determine the actual time line, they'll probably not change the entire concept of what they showed us in the teaser trailer but we just have to wait and see, it is most likely that Bentley didn't broke his legs in the teaser trailer because Bentley was able to drive without breaking a sweat with probably his legs, and of course they didn't lose the getaway van back in Canada or basically, in sly 2, many questions on the movie is still yet to be descovered, perhaps we'll find out once they showed us a new trailer of some sort...

    • @justinm8n
      @justinm8n 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It could be some sort of timeline that the game version didn't showed us, like the movie happens in between sly 1, 2, or 3 for example, and if it's correct then it could show us connections on clockwork, or any other villain for that matter...

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Justinm8n Hmm... Haven't thought about that one.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Justinm8n Yes, once we get a canon trailer, we will finally be able to tell which timeline it's based on.

  • @RustyNips
    @RustyNips 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I figured it was cause Sly's dad stoped thiefing went and had a family and left his gang same as how sly did at the end of sly3

  • @lidiaanna3817
    @lidiaanna3817 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if heard about Sly cooper comic books,i realy want one!!!!!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can find some on ebay and Amazon, high price though :P

    • @lidiaanna3817
      @lidiaanna3817 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks:) Btw:AMAZING VIDS.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lidia Anna Glad I could help and thanks I appreciate it!

  • @colaplays3660
    @colaplays3660 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love This theories!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you think so :D

  • @crashslysonic777
    @crashslysonic777 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many comics are there and do you know where I can find them physically?

    • @joaolucaslucena4786
      @joaolucaslucena4786 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      CrashSlySonic 777 i want to know too

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's 2. You can find them on wikia. Finding physical copies is very hard, unless you're willing to pay extra $$$ on ebay or amazon.

    • @crashslysonic777
      @crashslysonic777 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI For Sly, I more than willing.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      CrashSlySonic 777 :P

  • @kagomefox
    @kagomefox 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    XD Vinvivi!!! at part 10:14 I couldn't stop laughing !!! XD!!! Also I think yes his mom and dad where divorced and kept it a secret from sly, And yes probably kept the theifus raccoonus at his wife's house!! Anddddd I also think that they couldn't help Dr. M!!! Good theory's Vinvivi!!

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed :D

  • @notddgdx
    @notddgdx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am huge fan of the sly cooper franchise

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same as everyone in the comments :P

  • @davidosclay852
    @davidosclay852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also wondering what is M for, Dr. M real name? Muttley, Murphy, Martin, Morgan or Moloch?

  • @kmangaming1998
    @kmangaming1998 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think for sly 5 if they ever give the green light for it they should focus on the night of the attack and on how doctor m hate Conor so much let us play as them let's find out who sly mom is and let us play as the rest of the ancestors because time travel is definitely not going to be just for sly 4 witch for some reason won't let anyone play the cutscenes dam you disc benefits why would they end that

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's definitely more time travel in Sly 5, but how much? Will the team mainly stick to that only or go back to usual routes? As for gameplay, young Sly let's say, I don't see what they could add, he hid in the closet... unless it's the cookie heist. A cinematic for the night of the attack, maybe that's one thing they could consider, I hope it's in the movie. As for Dr. M, he's dead, perhaps Clockwerk could be the one to explain it to Sly, I'm sure he's seen a lot.

  • @odlerax
    @odlerax 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very interesting

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it :D

    • @odlerax
      @odlerax 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      This could open up to new theorys

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ironspider 242 That's always the case, when one theory is made, another rises eventually.

  • @PokemonkaDub
    @PokemonkaDub 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You keep asking why Nayla wanted to be immortal... well... she didn't want to die? I mean I know it might be to simple but... I'm sure there are thousands of people that would jump right into the mechanical owl just to escape death and nothing more to it... n matter the cost.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      But...Until what point? What will they achieve by living 100s of years? At some point, they will feel lonely.

    • @PokemonkaDub
      @PokemonkaDub 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not everyone cares about having company, or other people. Like Voldemort, he wanted to be immortal just because he feared death. And other people were just tools for him. Also yeah maybe they will feel lonely after a while, but hey, they don't worry about it in the moment, in the moment the worry about becoming immortal thinking they can deal with everthing that comes with it. This is an answer for why she wants not why she didn't quit after years because... years never passed yet. I mean many people want something just because and not realising or carig for what it can bring. She was unlikable already, as a person I don't think she had anyone worth crying after in her eyes.

  • @dusty5981
    @dusty5981 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Based on how movies that are based on video games come out...
    I’m not putting my hopes on the Sly Movie especially since it has been on hold
    Heck people say Angry Bird Movie is the best video game movie right now

  • @cslocker2697
    @cslocker2697 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    holyshit it would be so cool if Dr.M comes back in sly5. I know he died in sly3 but people comeback I guess? Dr.M specialty was also "Mandrill" he got stuck in a cave, kinda ironic? or convenient? tricking the cops and sly not focus on his next move would be ideal while he is researching every singel Cooper to find the one that will do the most impact on Conner Cooper. then Dr.M could make a time machine travling to egypt to erase Slys egyption ansater memories of even creating the book. only to find sly there, and maybe bently and murry would manage to find sly but not have enough power to get back so they have to orchestrate a plan to steal Dr.m's time machine parts idk.
    I also think that sly is Slytunkhamen Cooper I. and he will be returning with carmalita to egypt as the ultimate ending after defiting dr.M once more. and getting to staffs from the destroyed Cooper vault. giving one to each son. one of them will continue the legacy one will choose the dark side being the sly on the consept art. Slytunkhamen | being the second but fitst cooper to have 2 staffs. that last part might sound a lot farfetched but I at least think that sly will be giving or losing his staff in Egypt.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Sly is his own ancestor, it'd be a bootstrap paradox, who is Slytunkhamen in the first place? If he weren't to fulfill his destiny, he'd erase his family line. If they want to end the series that way, Sly being his own ancestor, it'd be pretty big. If they bring back Dr.M, I wouldn't be surprised honestly, he could be the one who rebuilds Clockwerk. If M does travel to the past, he'd have to be careful, anything he does could affect him.

  • @loiiysailor1177
    @loiiysailor1177 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this a old video but what if Conner sense that Mr.M has a sinner thoughts about taking over the world and Conner doesn't want to be part of that , so he left him behind

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I could imagine that!

  • @imsecretspie
    @imsecretspie 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:02 oh dr m this time

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup

  • @sebas8225
    @sebas8225 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    good theory.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @robxholicfoxyfan8552
    @robxholicfoxyfan8552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. M. might be Dr. Mandrill

  • @zerk2926
    @zerk2926 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    do a video about if clockwork found out panda king is cross teaming

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If he returns, he might find out. I'll keep that in mind.

  • @lilmarioriesgobronykingleg6262
    @lilmarioriesgobronykingleg6262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr M tell Clockwerk where Connor cooper lived!

  • @ahmedbukuk8016
    @ahmedbukuk8016 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    why isn't there more videos plz make more ASAP

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next one is coming in 2018.

    • @ahmedbukuk8016
      @ahmedbukuk8016 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      why tho

    • @ahmedbukuk8016
      @ahmedbukuk8016 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      i check daily for videos but there hasn't been any for 3 weeks.

  • @BIGBEASTBATTLE
    @BIGBEASTBATTLE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is slys dads hand orange when he dies

  • @NotOrdinaryInGames
    @NotOrdinaryInGames 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here is a simple answer:
    Connor was not friends with Dr Moriarty and WalrusGuy, they were merely his teammates, nothing more. After their glory days of pulling off successful heists, Sly's dad gradually stopped speaking to his old gang. And he definitely did NOT share his loot with them.
    This is nothing compared to Jak & Daxter games. There is not a single mother in the stories. Fathers aplenty, daughters up the wazoo, but no mothers. A few are mentioned, but none are named. No mothers. Ever.

  • @Hockey_Ace22
    @Hockey_Ace22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who is watching this in 2021

  • @StockImageOfaRat
    @StockImageOfaRat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rip sly cooper 5

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey I mean we never know.

  • @chrisbetancourt9022
    @chrisbetancourt9022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe Dr m and Connor were after the same woman sly's Mom and Connor knew Dr m liked her but he still ended up trying to date her and succeeded

  • @mulatosly
    @mulatosly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2 words: love it
    dats all XD ahaha

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks dood!

  • @bastianlarsen7375
    @bastianlarsen7375 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Feel like what happen to Dr. M is what happen to Penelope, SO.......could this had happened to Clockwerk? I mean we don't know his backstory so maybe Clockwerk and Sly´s ancestor were friends.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I believe I did discuss this idea in the past, where Clockwerk was originally allies.

    • @bastianlarsen7375
      @bastianlarsen7375 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI you’ve made many great videos about this game but there’s a lot of material so I don’t remember if you did or not 😊

    • @moneylover318
      @moneylover318 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bastianlarsen7375 I read on a fan fix that she has split personalities or multiple personalities depending on how you use it. She developed it when she was the black Baron for so long

  • @computercatgaming02
    @computercatgaming02 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great theory Vivi 👍 I think it is very likely that Clockwerk and Dr.M *onkey* had a deal.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks dude!

  • @theredscout1633
    @theredscout1633 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rip Rick may

  • @delylahbriggs9889
    @delylahbriggs9889 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay but like what if dr m liked sly’s mom Like Bentley liked Penelope but instead of how Bentley got the girl Connor got the girl and it caused dd m to hate him I mean even Bentley was frustrated about sly always getting the girl

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe :O

  • @theeviscerator9357
    @theeviscerator9357 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys what if in sly5 or movie Sly and the gang come back to the island????

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sly 5, maybe they might mention it. As for the movie, they'll mainly focus on the events of the first film in my opinion.

  • @fanofmediastuff269
    @fanofmediastuff269 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You've talked more about Clockwerk than Dr M

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Perhaps :O

  • @mariosellsbarrie
    @mariosellsbarrie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool vud

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks!

  • @uberkirbeeh7954
    @uberkirbeeh7954 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Conner kept the book in his wife's house if they were divorced it would be EXTREMELY SELFISH AND STUPID. Doing that will instantly put his ex wife in danger but also Sly when someone like Clockwer finds out that it's in her house.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That could be one of Conner's personalities, we know nothing much about him.

  • @portersmith5846
    @portersmith5846 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice speculation

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @StrictlyFactual
    @StrictlyFactual 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the movie going to be cannon?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The movie will have its own universe, so I'd say its canon in that universe.

  • @rageberry6670
    @rageberry6670 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Biggest plot of all time , sly`s mother was the wife of Dr.M , when Connor fell in love with her Dr.M gained an immense-full hate on him and wished death to him , but they were to close so he knew he couldnt kill him personally so he joined the only one that hated the cooper family as him CLOCKWERCK and they went to kill connor . That explains why they let sly alive , cuz Dr.M felt some kind of empathy since he was his wife in a child.
    xD lul

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm wondering if M had any feelings for her, who knows really at this point. Thanks for sharing :P

    • @scottiegang2236
      @scottiegang2236 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rage Berry This is a kids game sir. Theyre arent going to support adultery

  • @TheTeknicalMixes
    @TheTeknicalMixes 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    am I the only one who feels as though every villian except the main antagonist of each game had their backstory summarized too much, I mean alot of their backstories don't sound like proper reasons to become evil, and I'm pretty sure there's more of a reason to them becoming evil

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! Clockwerk needs a backstory :O Heck, make a new trilogy by having him return and better explain his reasoning.

  • @enriquecovarrubias6393
    @enriquecovarrubias6393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where i can see the movie i just see that it was canceled

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The movie hasn't happened, we're supposedly getting a Tv show instead.

  • @MadSkull
    @MadSkull 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr M. stands for Dr Mandrill, obvioulsy.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously.

  • @dipshoit2718
    @dipshoit2718 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    did clockwerk even know they had a child tho

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, he pointed that out during the battle in Sly 1.

  • @moodyowlproductions4287
    @moodyowlproductions4287 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The m stand for mobus

  • @moodyowlproductions4287
    @moodyowlproductions4287 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It dr mobius that what the m stand for.._..

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine that!

  • @shanecrean2544
    @shanecrean2544 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want McSweeny to be in the Sly Cooper movie 🎥

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the movie happens :/ The show will happen first.

    • @shanecrean2544
      @shanecrean2544 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VtnVivi I want to see McSweeny in the fifth Sly game the TV show and the movie

  • @jennifertaschuk2730
    @jennifertaschuk2730 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr.m can go cross eyed

  • @carlostucker3738
    @carlostucker3738 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are all cooper's not so good friends but for sly

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is that question.

  • @davidekman7460
    @davidekman7460 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    -It's Just A Theory...-

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't say it...

    • @frostxlegendzx5798
      @frostxlegendzx5798 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      VTNVIVI A game theory 😂😂😂😂- jk jk this speculations could be true

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frost xLegendzx And you said it... ;)

  • @RottenInsight
    @RottenInsight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toaster head

  • @shanecrean2544
    @shanecrean2544 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Connor and McSweeny but I hate Dr M

  • @hahaproductions1023
    @hahaproductions1023 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Early squad

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Late squad