Did Bone Thugs N Harmony Steal Their Style ??? Freestyle Fellowship -MARY

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  • Did Bone Thugs N Harmony Steal Their Style ??? Freestyle Fellowship -MARY
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  • @LostInTranslationLIT
    @LostInTranslationLIT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bizzy Bone Brings up a good point here th-cam.com/video/mCDIb_Txi8I/w-d-xo.html

    • @morrisday9916
      @morrisday9916 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep! U found it!! i saw this about a year or so ago. Leave it 2 BizZy 4 some clarity on the SUBJECT🤔🙂🤔

    • @bruddaman5981
      @bruddaman5981 ปีที่แล้ว

      He actually didn't........

  • @johnnybenavidez5486
    @johnnybenavidez5486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    they didnt steal their exact style but bone definetley had their ear to the underground. they took bits and peices from mikah 9 style. just like ice cube did to volume 10. Volume 10 and mikah 9 are the top mcs that everyone has bit from whether you know it or not.

  • @boofogle
    @boofogle หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bone were kids when their first album came out and they definitely rapped fast af on that album.

  • @satatay23
    @satatay23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let’s see, who has more than 1 style, 🤔, The Freestyle Fellowship. Who leaned entirely on 1 style, bone. Which groups’ members also have their own individual multitude of styles? THE FREESTYLE FELLOWSHIP. You know the rest.

    • @LostInTranslationLIT
      @LostInTranslationLIT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Freestyle Fellowship is probably the most diverse style wise of any hip hop group ever ...Maybe Step Child or the Roots could compete but that would be about it.

  • @Cqogpc
    @Cqogpc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro i think you are wild n they only put creeping on a come up and n est 99 eternal out with eazy the only album they had before that was faces of death, which came out when they were in Cleveland. It didn’t come out in LA. It was an underground local Cleveland album called bone enterprise. They weren’t even Bone Thugs-N-Harmony yet.

  • @JorgeEMerino-Orea
    @JorgeEMerino-Orea 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Myka9 and the Fellowship are true inventors of styles. Myka speaks on this, but he is a true gentleman and doesn’t sweat that they stole his whole style. He created even more styles. There is so much circumstantial evidence!✊🏽🙏🏽🇲🇽🔥

  • @chilld1324
    @chilld1324 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually they didnt rap like that on the first album. And faces of death was not horrible for a first album by teenagers. But yes More Harmony came Later but yes after hearing mary.. it sounds very suspected. But if Lazy n Kray took from Fellowship... then Bizzy took from (Snow) Flesh took from ( Paperboy) and Wish ( SPICE 1 KINDA)

  • @donalddavis6118
    @donalddavis6118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Freestyle Fellowship never said they stole their styles it was Abstract Rude who told them to leave his style alone. Freestyle Fellowship and Bone never had beef or anything to do with one another.

  • @liquidfists1
    @liquidfists1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What u mean faces of death was horrible and the raps were slow. u just making things up. hear this, Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - Flow motion (Faces of death)

  • @Crazed_Ink
    @Crazed_Ink 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Guess you don’t know flow motion. Smh

  • @lamonthart9163
    @lamonthart9163 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Facts and another group from the good lyfe Cafe

  • @JayRolo
    @JayRolo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh shit.
    I never heard of these guys.
    They sound good.
    I've been a huge Bone fan since their very first single "Thuggish Ruggish Bone".
    Obsessed.
    This song definitely remind me of Bone.

  • @Nelpisepii
    @Nelpisepii 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man said the Faces of death was horrible but this song is straight dog water lmao

  • @NeimadSenoj
    @NeimadSenoj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Easy was like say it like this ... Griot is an African poet the T is silent

  • @CSharpieDude
    @CSharpieDude ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Griot pronounced Gre O. a member of a class of traveling poets, musicians, and storytellers who maintain a tradition of oral history in parts of West Africa.

  • @andy1181-l3m
    @andy1181-l3m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Bone was sing/rapping and harmonizing on thier first underground album “Faces Of Death” that was recorded in 1992

    • @tris87don16
      @tris87don16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What’s great about been objective is this FF first album came out in 91 they were on the scene in the 80s Myka 9 even done something for NWA

    • @andy1181-l3m
      @andy1181-l3m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tris87don16 but did Myka sound like he did here in 91? And Bone wasnt with Eazy yet when they put out Faces Of Death

    • @RawAddict
      @RawAddict 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that's incorrect. please point out which song / songs exactly? if i remember correctly, they do rap fast on it but it's not the melodic fast rap they got known for eventually.

    • @andy1181-l3m
      @andy1181-l3m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RawAddict of course they didnt do it as much as thier later albums but the did use melodies on the album like Bless Da 40 Oz and We Be Fiended, and Def Dick. Again, It may not me all melodic rap throughout the songs but the do use melodies in the songs which was a glimpse into what they’d become

    • @NeimadSenoj
      @NeimadSenoj ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No they wasn't.... I hear no harmonies ... they rap fast but they weren't blending it and all that

  • @westcoastq7386
    @westcoastq7386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They did take that style

  • @pollo-SanAntonio210
    @pollo-SanAntonio210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bonethugsfam4life.... it's the original bang bang and I gets down for my damn thang "B.B. GAMBINI"

  • @R.Es1
    @R.Es1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fyi: Inner city Griots ( Gree ots) , not like riots with a G.

  • @marcusjustsaid
    @marcusjustsaid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nah, that isn't factual at all, even though I understand the comparison. Bone Thug's first group album was created when they were still underage teenagers. The album was recorded between 91-92 (Bizzy said the earliest songs were done in 1990), and Bone gained local success from it.
    The project later had a remastered commercial distribution release to select CD stores across the country in the mid 90s, AFTER Bone already had two mainstream projects out, and it initially confused many fans. You can tell a lot of time had passed, considering how childlike their voices were, not to mention the low quality recordings and outdated production. According to Bone members, the guy who worked with them on that project was shady, delayed their music/underpaid them, and as a result, the group never worked with him again. The group still talk down on him today.
    Also, Eazy didn't find Bone. Bone found Eazy. After they released the underground album, Bone moved to LA in early 93, lived there for half a year, promoted their music all over LA, gave it to execs, and went door to door to different artists; even brought it to Tone Loc's home. Bone finally connected with Eazy at his office via the receptionist after many failed attempts, Eazy then returned their call, and Krayzie Bone rapped for him over the phone. This is the rap that was done, from a song Bone made in 1991/1992.
    th-cam.com/video/Su-GYjPuQLM/w-d-xo.html (Krayzie slowed down the flow, in contrast to the actual song, where it's much faster--as the temp of the beat is really fast)
    Eazy asked Bone where they were from, they said Cleveland. He told Bone that he had a show coming up in Cleveland, they then got on the bus to go back to their hometown, opened the show (due to their local success), Eazy missed their performance, so several members snuck backstage, met Dj Yella, and Bone rapped for Eazy again. They headed back to LA soon after and signed with him/Ruthless Records.
    Even in the lyrics for Bone older songs, they mention the year (1992, for example). Many Bone songs below were recorded and released before Freestyle Fellowship's "Mary" (released in 93), and those songs definitely had origins of Bone's style that everyone grew to love after hearing Thuggish Ruggish Bone in early 1994. It simply isn't accurate that Bone didn't sound like Bone before Freestyle Fellowship's record.
    Prior to their success, the group wasn't rapping in a "We Are Bone, We Are Bone" style, as you indicated..however, I know you merely used it as an example to state that their style was completely different--but that wasn't the case at all. Bone's style was Bone's style, but to be expected, as they grew older and with better production resources, it evolved even more. Bizzy was only 14-15 at the time of their earlier group songs. The other members weren't too much older either. The point is, of course the foundation of Bone sounded like Bone, even back then, before their prime.
    Bizzy spoke on it here (and gave FF props)
    th-cam.com/video/mCDIb_Txi8I/w-d-xo.html
    Songs from 91-92.
    th-cam.com/video/SRrRPLqCeDE/w-d-xo.html
    th-cam.com/video/jCYIX5Nw69w/w-d-xo.html
    th-cam.com/video/B5P8Uag0YOY/w-d-xo.html
    th-cam.com/video/xek8ap6-2z8/w-d-xo.html (the last verse is the same as the audition verse clip)
    th-cam.com/video/Lu-TlvB3beg/w-d-xo.html
    th-cam.com/video/FM8SXW3bjP8/w-d-xo.html
    Freestyle Fellowship and Bone Thugs both incorporated a Reggae/Dancehall hybrid in their Rap delivery, as did many other artists during that early 90s era of Hip Hop. Freestyle Fellowship was more Jazz/Spoken word with their delivery at times, while Bone style was more R&B Soul/Doo-Wop/hardcore delivery meshed with a fast or slow flow. They were double-timing/tongue twisting/melodic back then. The beats were just a lot more uptempo. The G-Funk/West Coast Era of production took off in early 93 (not that you aren't aware) shortly after The Chronic release, and it changed the landscape of the sound of Hip Hop.
    Lastly, Bone lists their main influences as NWA, Big Daddy Kane, New Edition, Temptations, Luther Vandross, etc. If anything influenced Bone's sound after they were signed, it was the laid back West Coast beats and melodies from their in-house producers. I'd say it was more complementary of their sound than anything.

    • @cees-gc8xt
      @cees-gc8xt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You forgot about the Good Life 89 to 94
      94 To ???? Project Blowed.
      89 to 94 a lot of recordings were being made a lot tapes were being pass around.
      A lot of styles were taken.
      But nothing new in this competitive Hip Hop World. It happen then and it will continue.

    • @biggerthanhiphop7641
      @biggerthanhiphop7641 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That first bone project sounded way different

    • @billysheeley
      @billysheeley ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@biggerthanhiphop7641 because a lot of the tracks were recorded in '90-'91, and they were young teenagers, Bizzy like 13, and the rest 15, or so...

    • @mrtubby47
      @mrtubby47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Myka 9 been rapping like this since mid 80s with receipts. Try HARDER!

    • @ebk980
      @ebk980 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

  • @morrisday9916
    @morrisday9916 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't forget about DAS EfX, the Fu -Schnickens, Chief ROCKA SONG, SO , S0 many around that time and B4.......FL! Ppy dee fLoP FL0w, who knows,? Lol

  • @TheJoesmokemia
    @TheJoesmokemia ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's be real if they really bit there style why they didn't get on a platform and exposed them .. WITH BET and MTV loving that drama . Plus I'm looking for a link on TH-cam were FF been interview on a PLATFORM like VLADtv or ART OF DIALOGUE or some low budget platform saying BONE THUGS STOLED MY SONG... Wasted of time. End of the day WUTANG BETTER THEN THEM BOTH

  • @Spotlightadrian1
    @Spotlightadrian1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I am old enough to remember. 😅 I thought the beef was because it was because Bone stole their style from that other group and completely changed their sound and was getting death threats in Ohio

  • @sonyastefanova5785
    @sonyastefanova5785 ปีที่แล้ว

    The originators of speeds and this style in general ARE Hip Hop Clan, especially Ellay Khule! BEFORE BONE THUGS N HARMONY, BEFORE TWISTA! People don't even know hip hop history and roots.

  • @SilkSuaveNo.8
    @SilkSuaveNo.8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nah you not wrong... Smfh I’ve been saying this time after time a good amount of their cult following wont believe this. They will repeat like a broken record but they this and that blah blah like no one looked up Bone story. Freestyle Fellowship spoke on this and it’s true bone got influenced by that Mary song and put they own flavor to it. Krayzie sounds just like Myka 9 it ain’t no shocker to me that was a dead give away. And freestyle fellowship are hella innovative with different style of rap they very multidimensional rap wise. When Creepin on ah come up came out they didn’t sound like their first tape faces of death. They can rap and sing ain’t no one knocking that but ppl don’t understand these guys ain’t original like they say they is.

    • @israelbrewton5742
      @israelbrewton5742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude creeping on ah come up was throat songs from 91-92 and 90% of east 1999 was already pre-written just didn't have the beats. If you watch a sin interview from the graveyard shift he explains WATCHING Krayzie bone write neighborhood slang himself on the porch in the early 90s and that didn't drop until the art of war album. Those guys had been harmonizing and utilizing that style but it wasn't as polished on the faces of death album. Just like to number one assassin or def idk.

  • @tris87don16
    @tris87don16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5 O’clock follies, Six Tray, & Mary 🤔😀 all seriousness FF we’re more Jazz oriented & Bone RnB both great groups i remember when Bizzy spoke about them a while back. Saying they done their thing & Bone done there’s.

    • @LostInTranslationLIT
      @LostInTranslationLIT  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dope lol I didnt know Bizzy spoke on it.

    • @tris87don16
      @tris87don16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LostInTranslationLIT Yeah he did still

  • @youremybiggestfan
    @youremybiggestfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You dont steal you get inspired..
    Youre really meaning bone thugs sucked before they met eazy. Their early songs were frickin ill bro.

  • @moyomiranda852
    @moyomiranda852 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn't say the first is horrible its the coolest album to me outta bones discography I like that project blowed abstract style shit but that raw gangsta regional shits dope as hell on some raw production shit

  • @JoshuaMiex
    @JoshuaMiex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Faces of death is not garbage by far!!!

    • @LostInTranslationLIT
      @LostInTranslationLIT  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Horrible...I literally threw the cd out the window on the freeway. 😂

    • @JoshuaMiex
      @JoshuaMiex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LostInTranslationLIT they was kids on a come up at dat point!!!

    • @morrisday9916
      @morrisday9916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wasn't produced by Dr. DRE OR D.J. U-NEEK BUT FAR FROM TRASH......LOL CHECK THE LYRICS

    • @liquidfists1
      @liquidfists1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@morrisday9916 exactly. That Cd is fire. This dude prolly listened to two songs then decided to throw the cd out the window.

  • @ghostjason401
    @ghostjason401 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No they didn't steal that style they sound nothing alike and i'm a die hard bone fan

  • @popz4470
    @popz4470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said it yourself, "it sounds like Bone" Bone is original... they were still in the streets in Cleveland after recording their first album with Eazy. There's a rare video of them kicking it under a street light with homies (poetic hustlers) and them kicking their flow straight acapella. It can't be faked man... still hasn't even been perfected to this day by anyone but them... FF is dope no lie, and although them and Bone sound similar it ain't the same. Even the beats and their lyrical content is different besides the weed content. But at the time who didn't talk about smoking weed...

    • @LostInTranslationLIT
      @LostInTranslationLIT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This came out before bone thugs tho???

    • @popz4470
      @popz4470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LostInTranslationLIT I know that but you said it yourself

    • @jed4827
      @jed4827 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@popz4470 Yes it “sounds like bone” because that is their main style. You can’t say FF has a specific sound or style. FF did it first and kept it moving to the next.

  • @bruddaman5981
    @bruddaman5981 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bone fans are really in here in denial.. smh.. 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @nystagmus
    @nystagmus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Name one song FF did that sounds anything like days of our lives, shoot em up?
    Absolutely NOTHING like the BONE sound

    • @LostInTranslationLIT
      @LostInTranslationLIT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course it wouldnt sound like FF they werent the ones biting...But i can name a bunch of songs of Bone Thugs that sound like Mary and the flow with the high pitch melodies...

    • @nystagmus
      @nystagmus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lost In Translation L.I.T. That “garbage” album you are talking about is Faces of death
      Listen to flow motion: they had plenty of singing and fast rapping . They were young and not fully evolved.
      Secondly Bizzy Bone mentioned freestyle Fellowship in an interview as another different “pyramid” as finding a similar style.
      Lastly Krayzie Bone this month was asked about bone stealing FF flow in an interview and he didn’t even know who FF was.
      Bone does not have one style, it is a lot of different flows. They did songs like first of the month which were completed BEFORE they signed with easy
      You want to hear a real style stealer?: listen to chip fu and then listen to Busta Rhymes.

    • @LostInTranslationLIT
      @LostInTranslationLIT  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nystagmus Ill check it out! Ive never heard that one

    • @mpawofficial
      @mpawofficial 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LostInTranslationLIT You already checked it out allegedly because "Flow Motion" is the first track on the underground CD from 1992 Faces of Death (re-released by the company after they got signed to Eazy) and they are tongue twisting the whole nine... You said you listened to the album 🤔🤔🤔 I think you're just a FF fan in general and that's cool but why all the 🧢🧢🧢 You made it seem like Bone was rapping like the Fat Boys GTFOH 🤣🤣🤣

  • @MrfuckinBeilke
    @MrfuckinBeilke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I GREW UP WITH THIS. #LALegends
    PLEASE LISTEN TO *OF MEXICAN DECENT - I AM STILL*

  • @djveeps
    @djveeps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    sounds like bone thugs FASHO

  • @andy1181-l3m
    @andy1181-l3m ปีที่แล้ว

    If yall wanna get technical, the rapper Snow did it before Freestyle Fellowship…his album came out months before Freestyle Fellowship and his style resembles Bone even mlre cuz he does the jamaican/reggae slang…listen to the song Informer

  • @erikroque2133
    @erikroque2133 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Real reaction starts at 2:33😅

  • @giantkillerz
    @giantkillerz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel you -i deeply appreciate freestyle fellowship - but the truth is Gangsta Pat out of Memphis -thats who originated that flow

  • @Moonflower_Katnis
    @Moonflower_Katnis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is straight blasphemy! Bone Thugs n Harmony are the originators of their sound. You literally wasted your time and energy with this.

    • @LostInTranslationLIT
      @LostInTranslationLIT  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The took it period ...Change my mind.

    • @BryONE-ih8kh
      @BryONE-ih8kh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Listen to their CAN YOU FIND THE LEVEL OF DIFFICULTY IN THIS album...FF signifies the pure essence of originality & pioneers of this movement we call HipHop. Showing Love&Respect to their counterparts The Wu & Bone Thugs FELLOWSHIP is in another level beyond most can comprehend...and if u still havnt gotten a clue after 30+yrs then u slept on the progression of a culture

    • @LostInTranslationLIT
      @LostInTranslationLIT  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BryONE-ih8kh Facts

    • @biggerthanhiphop7641
      @biggerthanhiphop7641 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They clearly took ff style ..no debate